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hello to all respected gurus

i have a question to all respected guru that

 

1=when could i get marry

 

2=is it love marriage or arrange

 

3=how my wife will be look alike

 

4=if she be from abraod or from local

 

5=and plz explain the benfits and drawback of shani and chnadarma in

7 house

 

my detail is

 

sept 11.1971

 

13;01

 

lahore

 

i hope that this time gurus take my question also account for

 

thanks

 

regards

 

 

rizwan ahmad from lahore

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Dear Rizwan,

 

You have asked 7 questions.

 

This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

who are well and fine.

 

You should contact professional astrologers- who will

be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

all your questions satisfactorily.

 

Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

non-serious and non-urgent questions.

 

Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

to see your chart.

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay

 

 

My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group contact and professional consultations.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mrutunjaya,

 

His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

first as a student, next as a direct native.

Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

and other Forums too.

This is being going on since last two months.

If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

than I think even God would not be able

to help him.

I have nothing against the person, but only against his

attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

to request several ........."

One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

or keep any sort of connections.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

regards

 

 

 

, jyotish mrutyunjay

<astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

>

> Dear Rizwan,

>

> You have asked 7 questions.

>

> This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> who are well and fine.

>

> You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> all your questions satisfactorily.

>

> Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> non-serious and non-urgent questions.

>

> Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> to see your chart.

>

> With regards,

>

> Mrutyunjay

>

>

> My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

contact and professional consultations.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The group is meant for exchanging views/experiences on various aspects of Vedic -Asrology and not for free readings of charts.

No member is obligated to answer such querries. So you may have to reprat yr question mamy times,especially when they involve 7 questions and 7 answers.

have patience

 

rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786 > wrote:

hello to all respected gurus

i have a question to all respected guru that

 

1=when could i get marry

 

2=is it love marriage or arrange

 

3=how my wife will be look alike

 

4=if she be from abraod or from local

 

5=and plz explain the benfits and drawback of shani and chnadarma in

7 house

 

my detail is

 

sept 11.1971

 

13;01

 

lahore

 

i hope that this time gurus take my question also account for

 

thanks

 

regards

 

rizwan ahmad from lahore

 

 

 

 

 

alternate email is raichurar :Location Bombay India

 

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first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question in this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in this group after 2 years

and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person to reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which u r capable

and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Mrutunjaya,

 

His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

first as a student, next as a direct native.

Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

and other Forums too.

This is being going on since last two months.

If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

than I think even God would not be able

to help him.

I have nothing against the person, but only against his

attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

to request several ........."

One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

or keep any sort of connections.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

regards

 

, jyotish mrutyunjay

<astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

>

> Dear Rizwan,

>

> You have asked 7 questions.

>

> This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> who are well and fine.

>

> You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> all your questions satisfactorily.

>

> Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> non-serious and non-urgent questions.

>

> Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> to see your chart.

>

> With regards,

>

> Mrutyunjay

>

>

> My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

contact and professional consultations.

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

RIZ KHAN

 

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Dear all,

 

It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of this group to try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's nationality.

 

This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members from all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a very refined astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no boundaries. It is for all.

 

This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

 

If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and justified reasons. There is no need to show one's personal prejudices against any race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of thinking.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

-

rizwan khan

Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times to get answer

 

 

first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question in this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in this group after 2 years

and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person to reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which u r capable

and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Mrutunjaya,

 

His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

first as a student, next as a direct native.

Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

and other Forums too.

This is being going on since last two months.

If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

than I think even God would not be able

to help him.

I have nothing against the person, but only against his

attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

to request several ........."

One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

or keep any sort of connections.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

regards

 

, jyotish mrutyunjay

<astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

>

> Dear Rizwan,

>

> You have asked 7 questions.

>

> This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> who are well and fine.

>

> You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> all your questions satisfactorily.

>

> Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> non-serious and non-urgent questions.

>

> Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> to see your chart.

>

> With regards,

>

> Mrutyunjay

>

>

> My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

contact and professional consultations.

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

RIZ KHAN

 

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Dear Ashutosh ji,

 

It is less of discrimantion, and more of querents posting into multiple forum and pressing for requests. Which itself is unethical !!

 

Is any astrologer bound to reply in this or any forum? and does such an astrologer need to give an explanation too?

 

To my understanding, this is jyotish forum - not the querent's forum. In the process, if astrologers choose to respond, it is their discretion - not the querent's choice.

 

I expect, Tanveer ji to clarify it once for all.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

 

>

> astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:54:52 +0530

>

> This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

> Dear all,

>

> It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of

> this group to try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's

> nationality.

>

> This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members

> from all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a very

> refined astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no

> boundaries. It is for all.

>

> This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

>

> If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and

> justified reasons. There is no need to show one's personal prejudices

> against any race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of

> thinking.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> rizwan khan

>

> Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

> Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times to

> get answer

>

>

> first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question in

> this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in this

> group after 2 years

> and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u

> better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person to

> reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which u r

> capable

> and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any

> remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> Dear Mrutunjaya,

>

> His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> first as a student, next as a direct native.

> Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> and other Forums too.

> This is being going on since last two months.

> If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> than I think even God would not be able

> to help him.

> I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> to request several ........."

> One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> or keep any sort of connections.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards

>

> , jyotish mrutyunjay

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rizwan,

> >

> > You have asked 7 questions.

> >

> > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > who are well and fine.

> >

> > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > all your questions satisfactorily.

> >

> > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> >

> > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > to see your chart.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay

> >

> >

> > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

> contact and professional consultations.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> RIZ KHAN

>

>

> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done

> faster.

>

>

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Learned Members,

Whenever I am active in forums, I come across same mails in each &

every astro forum, which are present at now....thats why i hardly

feel any mails worthy of reply....

There are many people in this forum, dont need to mention their

name...they are all active in VA forum, Ancient_hindu_astrology,

KNRAOJYOTISH etc..forum....once they post a single message in any of

these forums, they dont forget to forward to other forums too to get

a reply....n the pain is that they never acknowledge for the

services rendered to them....they feel that its not reqd....cause

its not giving them any financial pain....

Another thing that pains me that cross-confirmation.....u ask an

astrologer about onething, then u consult another astro to confirm

the same....if the 2nd person tells the opposite, you will reply

with some technical terms to support urself(if the previous was

something positive)...but u hardly know astrology...then again u

consult another person...this is nothing but lack of trust..but if i

tell the person who is moving frm astros to astros, he wll

definitely say that I trust astrologers, but its not...he has no

faith in astrologers....

Again another thing comes is testing an astrologer...if any tom,

dick or harry comes to me for a reading, will ask me, can you tell

me what happened this year or that year??If my readings click, then

definitely he can move forward with me else he wont./..whats this???

U r confirming an astrologer for past events????Does it make sense

that one who will tell your past correctly will be able to quote

your exact future???or the other way round????

Another thing is that "popping of messenger windows"..its a total

night mare for me..but trust once we charge for our services(even

for answering a single query), we will remain qt happy while

chatting wid friends with messenger....n no getting pop-up messenger

windows....

Some frustrated people are there in this forum n others too...not

naming them...they will ask each n every astro abt their wife, not

asking abt their career, before building the same.....

This is really a hightime......Now another message i saw one using a

senior astrologer's email id as he was doing sometime pass...Dint he

have any other work than hacking someone's email id...as he was

suffering from Viral fever????What is this?????Is this a terrorist's

group or hackers???that u r implementing ur skills??????

I believe i have not crossed limits...may be I am rough in this

message...but I was planning to write such a mail from the last

month....may be this evening stars guided me to write such

messages....

Thanq

With Humbleness,

Wish u all success,

 

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

----------------------

 

 

 

 

 

, rizwan khan

<rizkhan_786 wrote:

>

> first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this

question in this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal

question in this group after 2 years

> and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or

nt ' u better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any

specfic person to reply my question so u just give answers to those

questions of which u r capable

> and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass

any remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Mrutunjaya,

>

> His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> first as a student, next as a direct native.

> Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> and other Forums too.

> This is being going on since last two months.

> If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> than I think even God would not be able

> to help him.

> I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> to request several ........."

> One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> or keep any sort of connections.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards

>

> , jyotish mrutyunjay

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rizwan,

> >

> > You have asked 7 questions.

> >

> > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > who are well and fine.

> >

> > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > all your questions satisfactorily.

> >

> > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> >

> > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > to see your chart.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay

> >

> >

> > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay@ for out of group

> contact and professional consultations.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> RIZ KHAN

>

>

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things done faster.

>

>

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I dont lie ever. Cause i dont get afraid of anything or anybody

except commiting sin. which i am not doing intentionally at the

moment,at least not on the Forum. or as a student of this science.

I have your chat stored with me with dates,but its not ethical so i

will not put it. And i will not waste time in searching and doing

cut and paste from other Forums. From where did you get my id

if not this group ? Your chat too contains reference to JR.

 

You dont pass remarks ?

"How many times is it necessary to ask .....?"

Is not that a remark and a authorative one at that ?

Are you Boss of some place that any one should reply to

silly questions as how will your wife look etc ?

 

I am not capable of answering any question to you,

I have already replied on chat.,long back. but also

said that as a student you can come to me any time,

if you remember.

 

I have personally no problem with you, keep that in mind,

before you reply me.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, rizwan khan

<rizkhan_786 wrote:

>

> first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question

in this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in

this group after 2 years

> and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or

nt ' u better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic

person to reply my question so u just give answers to those questions

of which u r capable

> and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass

any remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Mrutunjaya,

>

> His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> first as a student, next as a direct native.

> Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> and other Forums too.

> This is being going on since last two months.

> If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> than I think even God would not be able

> to help him.

> I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> to request several ........."

> One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> or keep any sort of connections.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards

>

> , jyotish mrutyunjay

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rizwan,

> >

> > You have asked 7 questions.

> >

> > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > who are well and fine.

> >

> > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > all your questions satisfactorily.

> >

> > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> >

> > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > to see your chart.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay

> >

> >

> > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay@ for out of group

> contact and professional consultations.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> RIZ KHAN

>

>

> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things

done faster.

>

>

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Dear Gaurav ji

 

Yes, you are very correct. Querents have their own unethical practice, to be blamed for non response.

 

Yes, hacking the email id of Shri Sashie Sharma ji was height of non sense on this forum.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

 

>

> gg_0202 (AT) (DOT) co.in

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:41:45 -0000

>

> Re: is it necessary to ask question several times to get

> answer

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Learned Members,

> Whenever I am active in forums, I come across same mails in each &

> every astro forum, which are present at now....thats why i hardly

> feel any mails worthy of reply....

> There are many people in this forum, dont need to mention their

> name...they are all active in VA forum, Ancient_hindu_astrology,

> KNRAOJYOTISH etc..forum....once they post a single message in any of

> these forums, they dont forget to forward to other forums too to get

> a reply....n the pain is that they never acknowledge for the

> services rendered to them....they feel that its not reqd....cause

> its not giving them any financial pain....

> Another thing that pains me that cross-confirmation.....u ask an

> astrologer about onething, then u consult another astro to confirm

> the same....if the 2nd person tells the opposite, you will reply

> with some technical terms to support urself(if the previous was

> something positive)...but u hardly know astrology...then again u

> consult another person...this is nothing but lack of trust..but if i

> tell the person who is moving frm astros to astros, he wll

> definitely say that I trust astrologers, but its not...he has no

> faith in astrologers....

> Again another thing comes is testing an astrologer...if any tom,

> dick or harry comes to me for a reading, will ask me, can you tell

> me what happened this year or that year??If my readings click, then

> definitely he can move forward with me else he wont./..whats this???

> U r confirming an astrologer for past events????Does it make sense

> that one who will tell your past correctly will be able to quote

> your exact future???or the other way round????

> Another thing is that "popping of messenger windows"..its a total

> night mare for me..but trust once we charge for our services(even

> for answering a single query), we will remain qt happy while

> chatting wid friends with messenger....n no getting pop-up messenger

> windows....

> Some frustrated people are there in this forum n others too...not

> naming them...they will ask each n every astro abt their wife, not

> asking abt their career, before building the same.....

> This is really a hightime......Now another message i saw one using a

> senior astrologer's email id as he was doing sometime pass...Dint he

> have any other work than hacking someone's email id...as he was

> suffering from Viral fever????What is this?????Is this a terrorist's

> group or hackers???that u r implementing ur skills??????

> I believe i have not crossed limits...may be I am rough in this

> message...but I was planning to write such a mail from the last

> month....may be this evening stars guided me to write such

> messages....

> Thanq

> With Humbleness,

> Wish u all success,

>

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

>

> ----------------------

>

>

>

>

>

> , rizwan khan

> <rizkhan_786 wrote:

>>

>> first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this

> question in this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal

> question in this group after 2 years

>> and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or

> nt ' u better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any

> specfic person to reply my question so u just give answers to those

> questions of which u r capable

>> and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass

> any remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>> Dear Mrutunjaya,

>>

>> His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

>> first as a student, next as a direct native.

>> Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

>> and other Forums too.

>> This is being going on since last two months.

>> If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

>> than I think even God would not be able

>> to help him.

>> I have nothing against the person, but only against his

>> attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

>> and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

>> itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

>> It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

>> to request several ........."

>> One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

>> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

>> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

>> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

>> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

>> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

>> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

>> or keep any sort of connections.

>>

>> regards,

>> Bhaskar.

>>

>> regards

>>

>> , jyotish mrutyunjay

>> <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Rizwan,

>>>

>>> You have asked 7 questions.

>>>

>>> This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

>>> seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

>>> who are well and fine.

>>>

>>> You should contact professional astrologers- who will

>>> be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

>>> all your questions satisfactorily.

>>>

>>> Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

>>> really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

>>> non-serious and non-urgent questions.

>>>

>>> Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

>>> to see your chart.

>>>

>>> With regards,

>>>

>>> Mrutyunjay

>>>

>>>

>>> My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay@ for out of group

>> contact and professional consultations.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> RIZ KHAN

>>

>>

>> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get

> things done faster.

>>

>>

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Dear Prafulla,

 

Please read the whole thread. Anyway, I am quoting the objectionable sentences:

 

"One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> or keep any sort of connections."

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

-

Prafulla Gang

Thursday, 14 September, 2006 20:08

RE: This is a Cosmopolitan group

 

 

Dear Ashutosh ji,

 

It is less of discrimantion, and more of querents posting into multiple forum and pressing for requests. Which itself is unethical !!

 

Is any astrologer bound to reply in this or any forum? and does such an astrologer need to give an explanation too?

 

To my understanding, this is jyotish forum - not the querent's forum. In the process, if astrologers choose to respond, it is their discretion - not the querent's choice.

 

I expect, Tanveer ji to clarify it once for all.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

>

> astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:54:52 +0530

>

> This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

> Dear all,

>

> It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of

> this group to try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's

> nationality.

>

> This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members

> from all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a very

> refined astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no

> boundaries. It is for all.

>

> This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

>

> If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and

> justified reasons. There is no need to show one's personal prejudices

> against any race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of

> thinking.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> rizwan khan

>

> Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

> Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times to

> get answer

>

>

> first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question in

> this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in this

> group after 2 years

> and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u

> better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person to

> reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which u r

> capable

> and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any

> remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> Dear Mrutunjaya,

>

> His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> first as a student, next as a direct native.

> Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> and other Forums too.

> This is being going on since last two months.

> If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> than I think even God would not be able

> to help him.

> I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> to request several ........."

> One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> or keep any sort of connections.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards

>

> , jyotish mrutyunjay

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rizwan,

> >

> > You have asked 7 questions.

> >

> > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > who are well and fine.

> >

> > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > all your questions satisfactorily.

> >

> > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> >

> > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > to see your chart.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay

> >

> >

> > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

> contact and professional consultations.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> RIZ KHAN

>

>

> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done

> faster.

>

>

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Dear Ashutosh ji,

 

Yes, I read the thread. and strongly feel that - how Bhaskar ji perceive a native, is his discretion and prerogative. But, can it be appreciated that - Rizwan is intruding his privacy through chat.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

 

>

> astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:46:19 +0530

>

> Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> Please read the whole thread. Anyway, I am quoting

> the objectionable sentences:

>

> "One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

>> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

>> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

>> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

>> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

>> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

>> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

>> or keep any sort of connections."

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

>

> -

> Prafulla Gang

>

> Thursday, 14 September, 2006 20:08

> RE: This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

>

> Dear Ashutosh ji,

>

> It is less of discrimantion, and more of querents posting into multiple

> forum and pressing for requests. Which itself is unethical !!

>

> Is any astrologer bound to reply in this or any forum? and does such an

> astrologer need to give an explanation too?

>

> To my understanding, this is jyotish forum - not the querent's forum.

> In the process, if astrologers choose to respond, it is their discretion

> - not the querent's choice.

>

> I expect, Tanveer ji to clarify it once for all.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant.

> And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because

> that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of

> fulfilling those expectations.

> ************************************************

>

> >

> > astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:54:52 +0530

> >

> > This is a Cosmopolitan group

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of

> > this group to try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's

> > nationality.

> >

> > This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members

> > from all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a very

> > refined astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no

> > boundaries. It is for all.

> >

> > This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

> >

> > If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and

> > justified reasons. There is no need to show one's personal prejudices

> > against any race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of

> > thinking.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > rizwan khan

> >

> > Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

> > Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times

> to

> > get answer

> >

> >

> > first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question

> in

> > this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in

> this

> > group after 2 years

> > and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u

> > better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person

> to

> > reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which

> u r

> > capable

> > and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any

> > remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > Dear Mrutunjaya,

> >

> > His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> > first as a student, next as a direct native.

> > Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> > and other Forums too.

> > This is being going on since last two months.

> > If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> > than I think even God would not be able

> > to help him.

> > I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> > attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> > and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> > itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> > It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> > to request several ........."

> > One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> > seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> > times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> > it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> > in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> > boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> > we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> > or keep any sort of connections.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > , jyotish mrutyunjay

> > <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rizwan,

> > >

> > > You have asked 7 questions.

> > >

> > > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > > who are well and fine.

> > >

> > > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > > all your questions satisfactorily.

> > >

> > > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> > >

> > > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > > to see your chart.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay

> > >

> > >

> > > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

> > contact and professional consultations.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > RIZ KHAN

> >

> >

> > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things

> done

> > faster.

> >

> >

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Dear Tatvam Asi ji,

 

I spent a long time in middle east - with lots of friends (professional and personal both) from Egypt, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. I agree that, no race / nationality etc need to be looked at in prejudiced manner..but that is my view. Each astrologer might have his own perception.

 

I am just questioning the way, querent work in unethical manner and press for the readings.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

 

>

> om_tatsat_om

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:16:19 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group..I second tis statement.

>

> I strongly agree with Ashutosh . I have many Pakistanis and Bangladeshi

> people working in a plant where I work in Detroit.

> They are most wonderful people you can ever meet. On the contrary, I

> have about fifteen Indian families living in our complex and they are as

> remote by choice as a distant star.(we tried to make friends but they

> want to remain aloof).

>

> Rizwan tried to ask too much. I agree that he cannot expect people MUST

> REPLY to his questions.

>

> This group is cosmopolitan and a multinational group. So people from

> all over the world will be there.

>

> Bhaskar should understand this.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of this group to

> try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's nationality.

>

> This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members from

> all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a very refined

> astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no boundaries. It

> is for all.

>

> This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

>

> If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and justified

> reasons. There is no need to show one's personal prejudices against any

> race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of thinking.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

> -

> rizwan khan

>

> Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

> Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times to

> get answer

>

> first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question in

> this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in this

> group after 2 years

> and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u

> better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person to

> reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which u r

> capable

> and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any

> remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> Dear Mrutunjaya,

>

> His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> first as a student, next as a direct native.

> Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> and other Forums too.

> This is being going on since last two months.

> If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> than I think even God would not be able

> to help him.

> I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> to request several ........."

> One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> or keep any sort of connections.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards

>

> , jyotish mrutyunjay

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

>>

>> Dear Rizwan,

>>

>> You have asked 7 questions.

>>

>> This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

>> seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

>> who are well and fine.

>>

>> You should contact professional astrologers- who will

>> be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

>> all your questions satisfactorily.

>>

>> Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

>> really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

>> non-serious and non-urgent questions.

>>

>> Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

>> to see your chart.

>>

>> With regards,

>>

>> Mrutyunjay

>>

>>

>> My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

> contact and professional consultations.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

> RIZ KHAN

>

>

> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done

> faster.

>

>

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Dear Prafulla,

 

An eye for eye will make everyone blind.

 

Arguments have no end. One should take up the most important issue first, the second one is already obvious and understood.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

 

-

Prafulla Gang

Thursday, 14 September, 2006 21:00

Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group

 

 

Dear Ashutosh ji,

 

Yes, I read the thread. and strongly feel that - how Bhaskar ji perceive a native, is his discretion and prerogative. But, can it be appreciated that - Rizwan is intruding his privacy through chat.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

>

> astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:46:19 +0530

>

> Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> Please read the whole thread. Anyway, I am quoting

> the objectionable sentences:

>

> "One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

>> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

>> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

>> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

>> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

>> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

>> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

>> or keep any sort of connections."

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

>

> -

> Prafulla Gang

>

> Thursday, 14 September, 2006 20:08

> RE: This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

>

> Dear Ashutosh ji,

>

> It is less of discrimantion, and more of querents posting into multiple

> forum and pressing for requests. Which itself is unethical !!

>

> Is any astrologer bound to reply in this or any forum? and does such an

> astrologer need to give an explanation too?

>

> To my understanding, this is jyotish forum - not the querent's forum.

> In the process, if astrologers choose to respond, it is their discretion

> - not the querent's choice.

>

> I expect, Tanveer ji to clarify it once for all.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant.

> And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because

> that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of

> fulfilling those expectations.

> ************************************************

>

> >

> > astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:54:52 +0530

> >

> > This is a Cosmopolitan group

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of

> > this group to try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's

> > nationality.

> >

> > This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members

> > from all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a very

> > refined astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no

> > boundaries. It is for all.

> >

> > This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

> >

> > If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and

> > justified reasons. There is no need to show one's personal prejudices

> > against any race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of

> > thinking.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > rizwan khan

> >

> > Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

> > Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times

> to

> > get answer

> >

> >

> > first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question

> in

> > this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in

> this

> > group after 2 years

> > and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt ' u

> > better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic person

> to

> > reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of which

> u r

> > capable

> > and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any

> > remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > Dear Mrutunjaya,

> >

> > His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> > first as a student, next as a direct native.

> > Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> > and other Forums too.

> > This is being going on since last two months.

> > If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> > than I think even God would not be able

> > to help him.

> > I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> > attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> > and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> > itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> > It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> > to request several ........."

> > One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> > seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> > times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> > it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> > in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> > boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> > we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> > or keep any sort of connections.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > , jyotish mrutyunjay

> > <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rizwan,

> > >

> > > You have asked 7 questions.

> > >

> > > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > > who are well and fine.

> > >

> > > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > > all your questions satisfactorily.

> > >

> > > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> > >

> > > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > > to see your chart.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay

> > >

> > >

> > > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of group

> > contact and professional consultations.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > RIZ KHAN

> >

> >

> > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things

> done

> > faster.

> >

> >

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Dear Ashutosh ji,

 

In my view, there is much more critical area in this thread - and that is Bhaskar's perception, when Rizwan intruded on his private chat. What he preceives on the chat, can not be anyone's business.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations.

************************************************

 

 

>

> astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:37:46 +0530

>

> Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> An eye for eye will make everyone blind.

>

> Arguments have no end. One should take up the most important

> issue first, the second one is already obvious and understood.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> Prafulla Gang

>

> Thursday, 14 September, 2006 21:00

> Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group

>

>

> Dear Ashutosh ji,

>

> Yes, I read the thread. and strongly feel that - how Bhaskar ji

> perceive a native, is his discretion and prerogative. But, can it be

> appreciated that - Rizwan is intruding his privacy through chat.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant.

> And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because

> that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of

> fulfilling those expectations.

> ************************************************

>

> >

> > astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:46:19 +0530

> >

> > Re: This is a Cosmopolitan group

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > Please read the whole thread. Anyway, I am quoting

> > the objectionable sentences:

> >

> > "One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> >> seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> >> times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> >> it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> >> in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> >> boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> >> we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> >> or keep any sort of connections."

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Prafulla Gang

> >

> > Thursday, 14 September, 2006 20:08

> > RE: This is a Cosmopolitan group

> >

> >

> > Dear Ashutosh ji,

> >

> > It is less of discrimantion, and more of querents posting into

> multiple

> > forum and pressing for requests. Which itself is unethical !!

> >

> > Is any astrologer bound to reply in this or any forum? and does such

> an

> > astrologer need to give an explanation too?

> >

> > To my understanding, this is jyotish forum - not the querent's forum.

> > In the process, if astrologers choose to respond, it is their

> discretion

> > - not the querent's choice.

> >

> > I expect, Tanveer ji to clarify it once for all.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant.

> > And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations

> because

> > that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way

> of

> > fulfilling those expectations.

> > ************************************************

> >

> > >

> > > astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> > > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:54:52 +0530

> > >

> > > This is a Cosmopolitan group

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > It is highly unfortunate and unexpected of any member of

> > > this group to try to discriminate on the basis of the querist's

> > > nationality.

> > >

> > > This is a cosmopolitan group. There are and there will be members

> > > from all over the globe here. Tanvir, the owner-moderator, and a

> very

> > > refined astrologer himself, is from Bangladesh. Knowledge knows no

> > > boundaries. It is for all.

> > >

> > > This is not a 'only for India' group. Please remember that.

> > >

> > > If one does not want to answer, one should give valid and

> > > justified reasons. There is no need to show one's personal

> prejudices

> > > against any race or nation. Astrologers should have the broadest of

> > > thinking.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > rizwan khan

> > >

> > > Thursday, 14 September, 2006 19:37

> > > Re: Re: is it necessary to ask question several times

> > to

> > > get answer

> > >

> > >

> > > first of all you are lieing in group that i am asking this question

> > in

> > > this group from the last 2 months i asked my personal question in

> > this

> > > group after 2 years

> > > and secondly ' who r u to decide whether GOD should help me or nt '

> u

> > > better take of ur self and seconldy i dont address any specfic

> person

> > to

> > > reply my question so u just give answers to those questions of

> which

> > u r

> > > capable

> > > and i dont want some one pass remarks about me as i never pass any

> > > remarks for any one so better carefull next time in lieing

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > > Dear Mrutunjaya,

> > >

> > > His posts are on almost all Forums, I mean his enquiries,

> > > first as a student, next as a direct native.

> > > Also has chatted on almost all astrologers private chats in this

> > > and other Forums too.

> > > This is being going on since last two months.

> > > If still the answers are not received by the gentleman

> > > than I think even God would not be able

> > > to help him.

> > > I have nothing against the person, but only against his

> > > attitude, of asking too much,wanting to know too much,

> > > and the satiation level having no end. The subject line

> > > itself is a put off. "Is it necessary to ask........."

> > > It would have been better for him to ask "Is it necessary

> > > to request several ........."

> > > One more thing, though he seems to be a sincere

> > > seeker/learner/student (???) yet when he approached me many

> > > times on the chat and said he was from Lahore,Pakistan,

> > > it made me apprehensive ,whether I should continue to be

> > > in touch with him or not. Though the science has no

> > > boundaries yet its a fact that on the other side of the wall,

> > > we would not like to have to do anything remotely connected.,

> > > or keep any sort of connections.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > , jyotish mrutyunjay

> > > <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rizwan,

> > > >

> > > > You have asked 7 questions.

> > > >

> > > > This group is for providing Remedial Measures to the

> > > > seriously needy people- not for people like u and me

> > > > who are well and fine.

> > > >

> > > > You should contact professional astrologers- who will

> > > > be able to at least devote 5/6 hours time to answer

> > > > all your questions satisfactorily.

> > > >

> > > > Please limit your questions to one or two- which are

> > > > really causing serious worries to you. Do not ask

> > > > non-serious and non-urgent questions.

> > > >

> > > > Then only someone from the group will be kind enough

> > > > to see your chart.

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mrutyunjay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My personal email id is astrologer.mrutyunjay for out of

> group

> > > contact and professional consultations.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > RIZ KHAN

> > >

> > >

> > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things

> > done

> > > faster.

> > >

> > >

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Dear Rizwan Khan

You will get married between 19-9-2006 and 21-1-2007.

No love marriage, but one settled by parents.

Happy enjoable marriage. Yes the girl could be a foreign born girl, or have some foren connection

god bless you

rizwan khan <rizkhan_786 > wrote:

salam and thanks for your reply

for thinking a number i give you 111 as a number and i hope now you will predict about me and correct my time of birth

thanks

regards

rizwan from lahore

 

sridhar k <kopparsa > wrote:

Dear Rizkhan

Yout TOB may have to be corrected. So you are requested to write down 1 question "WHEN WILL I BE MARRIED? Think of a number 1 to 249, and send it. You will get answer .

 

Sat in 7th causes delay in marriage.

 

 

rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786 > wrote: hello to all respected gurus

i have a question to all respected guru that

 

1=when could i get marry

 

2=is it love marriage or arrange

 

3=how my wife will be look alike

 

4=if she be from abraod or from local

 

5=and plz explain the benfits and drawback of shani and chnadarma in

7 house

 

my detail is

 

sept 11.1971

 

13;01

 

lahore

 

i hope that this time gurus take my question also account for

 

thanks

 

regards

 

rizwan ahmad from lahore

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mr. Sridhar,

 

Could u plz tell me abt my marriage also? When shall I marry? How will be

the girl? How will be the married life?

 

Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

 

Regards,

Rajan

 

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] On Behalf Of sridhar k

Friday, September 15, 2006 2:36 PM

rizwan khan

Cc: vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] is it necessary to ask question several times

to get answer

 

Dear Rizwan Khan

You will get married between 19-9-2006 and 21-1-2007.

No love marriage, but one settled by parents.

Happy enjoable marriage. Yes the girl could be a foreign born girl, or

have some foren connection

god bless you

rizwan khan <rizkhan_786 > wrote:

salam and thanks for your reply

for thinking a number i give you 111 as a number and i hope now you

will predict about me and correct my time of birth

thanks

regards

rizwan from lahore

 

sridhar k <kopparsa > wrote:

Dear Rizkhan

Yout TOB may have to be corrected. So you are requested to write down 1

question "WHEN WILL I BE MARRIED? Think of a number 1 to 249, and send it.

You will get answer .

 

Sat in 7th causes delay in marriage.

 

 

rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786 > wrote: hello to all respected

gurus

i have a question to all respected guru that

 

1=when could i get marry

 

2=is it love marriage or arrange

 

3=how my wife will be look alike

 

4=if she be from abraod or from local

 

5=and plz explain the benfits and drawback of shani and chnadarma in

7 house

 

my detail is

 

sept 11.1971

 

13;01

 

lahore

 

i hope that this time gurus take my question also account for

 

thanks

 

regards

 

rizwan ahmad from lahore

 

 

 

 

 

alternate email is raichurar :Location Bombay India

 

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RIZ KHAN

 

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Dear Ranjan

Could you have not chnaged the subject matter ? or are you too busy to do it. The sunjecy has nothing to do with your querry

 

"Rajan S. Malla" <rajan (AT) alico (DOT) com.np> wrote:

Dear Mr. Sridhar,

 

Could u plz tell me abt my marriage also? When shall I marry? How will be

the girl? How will be the married life?

 

Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

 

Regards,

Rajan

 

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] On Behalf Of sridhar k

Friday, September 15, 2006 2:36 PM

rizwan khan

Cc: vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] is it necessary to ask question several times

to get answer

 

Dear Rizwan Khan

You will get married between 19-9-2006 and 21-1-2007.

No love marriage, but one settled by parents.

Happy enjoable marriage. Yes the girl could be a foreign born girl, or

have some foren connection

god bless you

rizwan khan <rizkhan_786 > wrote:

salam and thanks for your reply

 

for thinking a number i give you 111 as a number and i hope now you

will predict about me and correct my time of birth

 

thanks

 

regards

 

rizwan from lahore

 

 

sridhar k <kopparsa > wrote:

Dear Rizkhan

Yout TOB may have to be corrected. So you are requested to write down 1

question "WHEN WILL I BE MARRIED? Think of a number 1 to 249, and send it.

You will get answer .

 

Sat in 7th causes delay in marriage.

 

rizkhan_786 <rizkhan_786 > wrote: hello to all respected

gurus

i have a question to all respected guru that

 

1=when could i get marry

 

2=is it love marriage or arrange

 

3=how my wife will be look alike

 

4=if she be from abraod or from local

 

5=and plz explain the benfits and drawback of shani and chnadarma in

7 house

 

my detail is

 

sept 11.1971

 

13;01

 

lahore

 

i hope that this time gurus take my question also account for

 

thanks

 

regards

 

rizwan ahmad from lahore

 

alternate email is raichurar :Location Bombay India

 

Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business.

 

RIZ KHAN

 

Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business.

 

alternate email is raichurar :Location Bombay India

 

 

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