Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Prafulla, well traditionally speaking the 3,6,10,11 houses represent the arishad vargas or the ones to be controlled how can u add remedies for it? currently as i said in my thread on redifining malefic houses, planets on 25/2 and 13/4 06 have said it works differently in a materialist world now. but what happens here is more of gut feeling to arrogance so all we can say is strengthen gut feeling than arrogence. by meditaion, excercises too.. Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji, Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures. Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and moksha kona? regards / Prafulla Gang Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a result but not the purpose. ************************************************ > > gbp_kumar > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9 > > Prafulla, > predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western astrology uses > fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its effect a > collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader, king, don, > CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our evil time > we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife, tragedy etc.. > the Samohika karmaphala > > I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here sotme back > > in short again here > when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a bus > skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the > ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on the > edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was pulled > out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the piligrims > in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma that he > will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike and his > good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs later > became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far, noow > called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more > accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even Jayednra > saraswathi in to its web. > > so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can destroy > us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if > anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and bad > that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85% max rest > is god's will.. > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature (whether for > mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure? > > Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in my view > - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the > uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it uncertain > !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns, so that > native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say > awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti from the > life/death cycle). > > On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial issues > for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of jyotish. > > regards / Prafulla > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > Shri Jagdishji, > > > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly > > like to answer it., in short. > > > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may > try. > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I mean > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing is > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from Him.. > > > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ji > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before > > hand through astrologers. > > > > > > Now there are two possabilities. > > > > > > 1) Prediction went right > > > > > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many > > people by these natural disasters ? > > > > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ? > > > > > > > > > 2) Prediction went wrong > > > > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them. > > > > > > > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword. > > > > > > Any comments ? > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)...... > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r- > > > scale is only 4.... > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends, > > > who trust me.... > > > Regards, > > > Gaurav > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers. > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line. > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave. > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth), > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives > hand > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way. > > > > > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji > > taking > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign > > countries, > > > or > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Readers, > > > > > > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao, > > > Venketramani > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70% > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the > > > last 2 > > > > strong leftists. > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology > > > > > > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions > > > lack > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on > > > may > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection. > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed > > > inprediciting > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper > majority. > > > > > > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist > > > attack > > > > will happen near a religious place > > > > > > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak > > > location > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error > > > was > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions > > > inshifting > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too. > > > > > > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there > > > > astrologically. > > > > > > > > > > TIME WILL TELL > > > > > > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for > > > astologers > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the > > > left > > > > brigade in the print and TV media.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > > > > > > > group but > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or > > > phone. > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > > > > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ > > > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Prashant Kumarji, That exactly the point which is being made. Ideally speaking all Human beings should reailse their mission, pray to the lord and seek salvation. If we were all to do this, then the world woud be a better place to live in. The maya is such that often we do karmas and seek selfish gains for ourselves, our families and so on. That is the material part of the world. Most seekers from the Jyotishis seek information regarding job, better chances, business, marriage, better education...the emphasis is on the "better". Most remedies therefore should be such which would assist the seeker in achieving the betterment of their lives. It is not a coincidence that in Jyotish 3,6, 10 and 11 houses have been also considered as growth or upachaya houses besides what you succintly put as "houses represent the arishad vargas or the ones to be controlled". The remedies should revolve around or involve such karma so that the consumer gets what he/she seeks rather than what the jyotishi desires him to get! regards rishi , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Prafulla, > > well traditionally speaking the 3,6,10,11 how can u add remedies for it? > > currently as i said in my thread on redifining malefic houses, planets on 25/2 and 13/4 06 have said it works differently in a materialist world now. > > but what happens here is more of gut feeling to arrogance so all we can say is strengthen gut feeling than arrogence. by meditaion, excercises too. > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji, > > Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures. > > Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and moksha kona? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self- interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a result but not the purpose. > > ************************************************ > > > > > gbp_kumar > > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9 > > > > Prafulla, > > predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western astrology uses > > fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its effect a > > collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader, king, don, > > CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our evil time > > we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife, tragedy etc. > > the Samohika karmaphala > > > > I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here sotme back > > > > in short again here > > when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a bus > > skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the > > ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on the > > edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was pulled > > out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the piligrims > > in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma that he > > will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike and his > > good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs later > > became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far, noow > > called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more > > accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even Jayednra > > saraswathi in to its web. > > > > so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can destroy > > us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if > > anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and bad > > that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80- 85% max rest > > is god's will.. > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature (whether for > > mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure? > > > > Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in my view > > - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the > > uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it uncertain > > !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns, so that > > native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say > > awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti from the > > life/death cycle). > > > > On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial issues > > for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of jyotish. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Shri Jagdishji, > > > > > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly > > > like to answer it., in short. > > > > > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may > > try. > > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from > > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of > > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I mean > > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like > > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of > > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing is > > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from Him. > > > > > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our > > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ji > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before > > > hand through astrologers. > > > > > > > > Now there are two possabilities. > > > > > > > > 1) Prediction went right > > > > > > > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before > > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many > > > people by these natural disasters ? > > > > > > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Prediction went wrong > > > > > > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith > > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them. > > > > > > > > > > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword. > > > > > > > > Any comments ? > > > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > > > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading > > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar > > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the > > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)...... > > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r- > > > > scale is only 4.... > > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends, > > > > who trust me.... > > > > Regards, > > > > Gaurav > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers. > > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he > > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line. > > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave. > > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed > > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth), > > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with > > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for > > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different > > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives > > hand > > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way. > > > > > > > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji > > > taking > > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been > > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by > > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign > > > countries, > > > > or > > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Readers, > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao, > > > > Venketramani > > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70% > > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the > > > > last 2 > > > > > strong leftists. > > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions > > > > lack > > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on > > > > may > > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection. > > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed > > > > inprediciting > > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when > > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper > > majority. > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the > > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he > > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist > > > > attack > > > > > will happen near a religious place > > > > > > > > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak > > > > location > > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error > > > > was > > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions > > > > inshifting > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the > > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too. > > > > > > > > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen > > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there > > > > > astrologically. > > > > > > > > > > > > TIME WILL TELL > > > > > > > > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for > > > > astologers > > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the > > > > left > > > > > brigade in the print and TV media.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > > > > > > > > > group but > > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or > > > > phone. > > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ > > > > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Dear friends, The principle of Karka Yoga- planets in kendra and trikona from each other becomes 'karka yoga' -creater In additon to this planets referred from lagna shows the actual happenings. Planets from moon(chandr- langa) shows whether we are able to feel them (pain or pleasure -wise) or not. So please try to make judicious mixture of all the 3 facors. With regards, Mrutyunjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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