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Dear Readers,

There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao, Venketramani who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70% success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the last 2 strong leftists.

who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions lack any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on may events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed inprediciting the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist attack will happen near a religious place

Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak location also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error was given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions inshifting people

Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there astrologically.

TIME WILL TELL

But please write to press, tv to allow more time for astologers than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the left brigade in the print and TV media..

 

Prashantkumar G B

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Shri Prashant Sahab,

 

Namaste.

 

I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

 

Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji taking

milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign countries, or

they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Readers,

>

> There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao, Venketramani

who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the last 2

strong leftists.

> who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

>

> the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions lack

any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on may

events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed inprediciting

the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

>

> BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist attack

will happen near a religious place

>

> Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak location

also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error was

given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions inshifting

people

>

> Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

>

> well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

astrologically.

>

> TIME WILL TELL

>

> But please write to press, tv to allow more time for astologers

than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the left

brigade in the print and TV media..

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

group but

> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone.

> Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

>

> Personal ID astro.prashantkumar

> 09840051861

>

>

>

>

>

> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

>

>

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

 

Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

scale is only 4....

I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

who trust me....

Regards,

Gaurav

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Prashant Sahab,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

>

> Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji taking

> milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign countries,

or

> they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Readers,

> >

> > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

Venketramani

> who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

last 2

> strong leftists.

> > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> >

> > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

lack

> any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

may

> events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

inprediciting

> the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

> >

> > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

attack

> will happen near a religious place

> >

> > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

location

> also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

was

> given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

inshifting

> people

> >

> > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> >

> > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> astrologically.

> >

> > TIME WILL TELL

> >

> > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

astologers

> than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

left

> brigade in the print and TV media..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

> > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

 

> group but

> > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

phone.

> > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> >

> > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > 09840051861

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> >

> >

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Dear Gaurav,

 

Good going.

I believe you.

But if it is happening in Bombay in future, let me know in advance,

I will shift from Bombay to Calcutta.near You in safe custody.

 

Try to also predict for places in the international boundaries too,

alongwith timings, if You are able to. If you come out true in at

least 2 out of three predictions, you can become famous in the

world, and we can also say with pride that we know this young

guy, he is our good friend.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, "" <gg_0202

wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

>

> Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

> eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

> scale is only 4....

> I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

> who trust me....

> Regards,

> Gaurav

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> >

> > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

taking

> > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

countries,

> or

> > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Readers,

> > >

> > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> Venketramani

> > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

70%

> > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> last 2

> > strong leftists.

> > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > >

> > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> lack

> > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

> may

> > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> inprediciting

> > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

majority.

> > >

> > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> attack

> > will happen near a religious place

> > >

> > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> location

> > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> was

> > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> inshifting

> > people

> > >

> > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to

the

> > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > >

> > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

there

> > astrologically.

> > >

> > > TIME WILL TELL

> > >

> > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> astologers

> > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> left

> > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prashantkumar G B

> > >

> > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

>

> > group but

> > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> phone.

> > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > >

> > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > 09840051861

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > >

> > >

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Dear Ji

Greetings

People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before hand through astrologers.

Now there are two possabilities.

1) Prediction went right

In this case many people can save their lives by acting before natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many people by these natural disasters ?

Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

2) Prediction went wrong

Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

Any comments ?

Jagdish

 

wrote:

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

 

Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

scale is only 4....

I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

who trust me....

Regards,

Gaurav

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Prashant Sahab,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

>

> Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji taking

> milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign countries,

or

> they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Readers,

> >

> > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

Venketramani

> who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

last 2

> strong leftists.

> > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> >

> > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

lack

> any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

may

> events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

inprediciting

> the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

> >

> > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

attack

> will happen near a religious place

> >

> > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

location

> also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

was

> given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

inshifting

> people

> >

> > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> >

> > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> astrologically.

> >

> > TIME WILL TELL

> >

> > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

astologers

> than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

left

> brigade in the print and TV media..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

> > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

 

> group but

> > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

phone.

> > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> >

> > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > 09840051861

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> >

> >

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Shri Jagdishji,

 

Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

like to answer it., in short.

 

1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may try.

If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I mean

He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing is

unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from Him.

 

2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our

predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Dear Ji

>

> Greetings

>

> People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before

hand through astrologers.

>

> Now there are two possabilities.

>

> 1) Prediction went right

>

> In this case many people can save their lives by acting before

natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many

people by these natural disasters ?

>

> Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

>

>

> 2) Prediction went wrong

>

> Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith

and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

>

>

> So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

>

> Any comments ?

>

> Jagdish

>

>

>

> <gg_0202 wrote:

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

>

> Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

> eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

> scale is only 4....

> I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

> who trust me....

> Regards,

> Gaurav

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> >

> > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

taking

> > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

countries,

> or

> > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Readers,

> > >

> > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> Venketramani

> > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> last 2

> > strong leftists.

> > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > >

> > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> lack

> > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

> may

> > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> inprediciting

> > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

> > >

> > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> attack

> > will happen near a religious place

> > >

> > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> location

> > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> was

> > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> inshifting

> > people

> > >

> > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > >

> > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> > astrologically.

> > >

> > > TIME WILL TELL

> > >

> > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> astologers

> > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> left

> > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prashantkumar G B

> > >

> > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

>

> > group but

> > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> phone.

> > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > >

> > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > 09840051861

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > >

> > >

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Jagdish,

not sure where u want to lead this.

if people r destined to die en mass it will bring suchpeople there at that time in way or the other it will happen, u have natural calamities, and man made calamities and mad men made calamities [terror] so all possiblities open

we can interpret it and those destined to live after the incident may be witness a btio away from the spot or may be put of town/location that time.

when weather dept makes mistakes and fail in the results it is still called science the cyclone may hot the area not destined or planned and evacuated bu the ones not prepared more. the Kathrina hurricane is case in point. for all ur questions

 

Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest > wrote: Dear Ji

Greetings

People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before hand through astrologers.

Now there are two possabilities.

1) Prediction went right

In this case many people can save their lives by acting before natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many people by these natural disasters ?

Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

2) Prediction went wrong

Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

Any comments ?

Jagdish

wrote:

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

scale is only 4....

I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

who trust me....

Regards,

Gaurav

http://gauravastro.150m.com

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Prashant Sahab,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

>

> Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji taking

> milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign countries,

or

> they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Readers,

> >

> > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

Venketramani

> who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

last 2

> strong leftists.

> > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> >

> > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

lack

> any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

may

> events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

inprediciting

> the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

> >

> > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

attack

> will happen near a religious place

> >

> > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

location

> also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

was

> given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

inshifting

> people

> >

> > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> >

> > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> astrologically.

> >

> > TIME WILL TELL

> >

> > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

astologers

> than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

left

> brigade in the print and TV media..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

> > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> group but

> > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

phone.

> > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> >

> > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > 09840051861

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> >

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature (whether for

mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

 

Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in my view

- astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it uncertain

!!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns, so that

native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti from the

life/death cycle).

 

On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial issues

for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of jyotish.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Jagdishji,

>

> Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> like to answer it., in short.

>

> 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may try.

> If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I mean

> He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing is

> unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from Him.

>

> 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our

> predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ji

> >

> > Greetings

> >

> > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before

> hand through astrologers.

> >

> > Now there are two possabilities.

> >

> > 1) Prediction went right

> >

> > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before

> natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many

> people by these natural disasters ?

> >

> > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> >

> >

> > 2) Prediction went wrong

> >

> > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith

> and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> >

> >

> > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> >

> > Any comments ?

> >

> > Jagdish

> >

> >

> >

> > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> >

> > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

> > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

> > scale is only 4....

> > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

> > who trust me....

> > Regards,

> > Gaurav

> > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > >

> > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> taking

> > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> countries,

> > or

> > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Readers,

> > > >

> > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > Venketramani

> > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > last 2

> > > strong leftists.

> > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > >

> > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > lack

> > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

> > may

> > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > inprediciting

> > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

> > > >

> > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > attack

> > > will happen near a religious place

> > > >

> > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > location

> > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> > was

> > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > inshifting

> > > people

> > > >

> > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > >

> > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> > > astrologically.

> > > >

> > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > >

> > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > astologers

> > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > left

> > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > >

> > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> >

> > > group but

> > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > phone.

> > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > >

> > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > 09840051861

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > >

> > > >

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dear friends

 

this subject of predicting natural calamities with success keep

coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

 

here is what i observed based on facts:

 

in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas, in

thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

predictions, have started listing the following incidents for the

CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

 

1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

2. some parts witness drought and famine.

3. a national leader of repute passes away.

4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the country.

6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from foreign

lands.

7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

8. a leading film personality passes away.

9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

 

as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all the

above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country every

year.

 

some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an incident

happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the origin of

the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

 

forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this country

at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the president

and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE GODMEN WHO

ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE FOLLOWERS

HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL THESE

GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND

CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM FOR

SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER DONATIONS.

 

so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural calamity, how

can an ordinary astrologer predict.

 

please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these years

predicting an incident beforehand.

 

in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he got

brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in andhra

and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he too

did not give any dates.

 

we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

predicting future incidents in advance for the country, specifically

natural calamities.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Jagdishji,

>

> Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> like to answer it., in short.

>

> 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may

try.

> If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I

mean

> He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing

is

> unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from

Him.

>

> 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our

> predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ji

> >

> > Greetings

> >

> > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

before

> hand through astrologers.

> >

> > Now there are two possabilities.

> >

> > 1) Prediction went right

> >

> > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before

> natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many

> people by these natural disasters ?

> >

> > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> >

> >

> > 2) Prediction went wrong

> >

> > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

faith

> and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> >

> >

> > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> >

> > Any comments ?

> >

> > Jagdish

> >

> >

> >

> > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> >

> > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after

the

> > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in

r-

> > scale is only 4....

> > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

friends,

> > who trust me....

> > Regards,

> > Gaurav

> > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

Earth),

> > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives

hand

> > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > >

> > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> taking

> > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have

been

> > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> countries,

> > or

> > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Readers,

> > > >

> > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > Venketramani

> > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

70%

> > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > last 2

> > > strong leftists.

> > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > >

> > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > lack

> > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons

on

> > may

> > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > inprediciting

> > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

majority.

> > > >

> > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > attack

> > > will happen near a religious place

> > > >

> > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > location

> > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> > was

> > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > inshifting

> > > people

> > > >

> > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to

the

> > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > >

> > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

there

> > > astrologically.

> > > >

> > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > >

> > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > astologers

> > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > left

> > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > >

> > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> >

> > > group but

> > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > phone.

> > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > >

> > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > 09840051861

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Prafullaji,

 

Predictions based on misjudged intuitions or wrong derivations

arrived at by ESp, may certainly fall in fatilistic category.

 

Astrology predictions can never be fatilistic I presume.

Neither can astrology itself be viewed as a fatalistic science

which will hamper growth., or support stagnation or allow the

fate to remain defunct. In fact it is just the opposite.It allows

breathing space by indicating the future and where possible,

to accelerate the progress, or reduce the negative impacts in

ones life. In other words as you said prepare for the uncertain,

and to draw the karmic patterns (Retrograde Planets for ex.in 6th

should decide the karmic rinabundhans in which area are

needed to be repaid-), so that this knowledge can be used for

achieveing ultimate objective ......

 

Remedial measures is certainly a relevant issue, because if

a negative uncertainity is noticed by the astrologer, he also

has to suggest alongwith,the measures for reducing the same

negativity, which is the core issue and meaning of astrology,

thus these measure namely known as remedial.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature (whether for

> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

>

> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in my

view

> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it uncertain

> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns, so

that

> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti from

the

> life/death cycle).

>

> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial

issues

> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of

jyotish.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >

> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > like to answer it., in short.

> >

> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may

try.

> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I

mean

> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing

is

> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from

Him.

> >

> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth

our

> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ji

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

before

> > hand through astrologers.

> > >

> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > >

> > > 1) Prediction went right

> > >

> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

before

> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

many

> > people by these natural disasters ?

> > >

> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > >

> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

faith

> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > >

> > >

> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > >

> > > Any comments ?

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > >

> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after

the

> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in

r-

> > > scale is only 4....

> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

friends,

> > > who trust me....

> > > Regards,

> > > Gaurav

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

Earth),

> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him

with

> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives

hand

> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > > >

> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> > taking

> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have

been

> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > countries,

> > > or

> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > Venketramani

> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

70%

> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > > last 2

> > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > > lack

> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons

on

> > > may

> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > inprediciting

> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

when

> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

majority.

> > > > >

> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th

he

> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > > attack

> > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > >

> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > location

> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

error

> > > was

> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > inshifting

> > > > people

> > > > >

> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to

the

> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > > >

> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

there

> > > > astrologically.

> > > > >

> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > >

> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > astologers

> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > > left

> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > >

> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >

> > > > group but

> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > > phone.

> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > > >

> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > 09840051861

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Arjun ji,

 

Thoroughly enjoyed your post! Thanks!!

 

Here is a public prediction! The subject matter of your posting shall

show up on this list, and be discussed again, before 2006 is over ;-)

 

RR

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> this subject of predicting natural calamities with success keep

> coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

>

> here is what i observed based on facts:

>

> in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas, in

> thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

> predictions, have started listing the following incidents for the

> CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

>

> 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

> 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

> 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the country.

> 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from foreign

> lands.

> 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

>

> as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all the

> above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country every

> year.

>

> some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an incident

> happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the origin of

> the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

> calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

>

> forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this country

> at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the president

> and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE GODMEN

WHO

> ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE FOLLOWERS

> HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL THESE

> GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

> CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND

> CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM FOR

> SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER DONATIONS.

>

> so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

> avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural calamity, how

> can an ordinary astrologer predict.

>

> please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these

years

> predicting an incident beforehand.

>

> in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

> veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he got

> brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in andhra

> and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he too

> did not give any dates.

>

> we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> predicting future incidents in advance for the country,

specifically

> natural calamities.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

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Shri Panditji,

Pranams,

 

A very good post as expected from you,specially the para written in

capitals brought a smile. How can human beings,I have not understood

allowed their names to be prefixed with Sri Sri Bhagwan.......

when they cant even speak or sound like proper men, though hats

off to them for their purya punyas (??) karmas which have given them

in this janma the charisma to get masses together on a common platform

and show the world about our religious way of living and love

extended to all, exhuberating from our Hindu culture.

Yet some how this prefixing does not make sense in any way to these

personalities however great they may be.

 

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> this subject of predicting natural calamities with success keep

> coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

>

> here is what i observed based on facts:

>

> in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas, in

> thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

> predictions, have started listing the following incidents for the

> CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

>

> 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

> 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

> 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the country.

> 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from foreign

> lands.

> 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

>

> as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all the

> above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country every

> year.

>

> some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an incident

> happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the origin of

> the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

> calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

>

> forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this country

> at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the president

> and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE GODMEN

WHO

> ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE FOLLOWERS

> HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL THESE

> GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

> CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND

> CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM FOR

> SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER DONATIONS.

>

> so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

> avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural calamity, how

> can an ordinary astrologer predict.

>

> please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these

years

> predicting an incident beforehand.

>

> in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

> veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he got

> brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in andhra

> and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he too

> did not give any dates.

>

> we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> predicting future incidents in advance for the country,

specifically

> natural calamities.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >

> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > like to answer it., in short.

> >

> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may

> try.

> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I

> mean

> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing

> is

> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from

> Him.

> >

> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth

our

> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ji

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

> before

> > hand through astrologers.

> > >

> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > >

> > > 1) Prediction went right

> > >

> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

before

> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

many

> > people by these natural disasters ?

> > >

> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > >

> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

> faith

> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > >

> > >

> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > >

> > > Any comments ?

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > >

> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after

> the

> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in

> r-

> > > scale is only 4....

> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> friends,

> > > who trust me....

> > > Regards,

> > > Gaurav

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> Earth),

> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him

with

> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives

> hand

> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > > >

> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> > taking

> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have

> been

> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > countries,

> > > or

> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > Venketramani

> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

> 70%

> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > > last 2

> > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > > lack

> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons

> on

> > > may

> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > inprediciting

> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

when

> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> majority.

> > > > >

> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th

he

> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > > attack

> > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > >

> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > location

> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

error

> > > was

> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > inshifting

> > > > people

> > > > >

> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to

> the

> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > > >

> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

> there

> > > > astrologically.

> > > > >

> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > >

> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > astologers

> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > > left

> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > >

> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >

> > > > group but

> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > > phone.

> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > > >

> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > 09840051861

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Pandit Arjunji,,

 

 

while i really appreciate ur facts based mail post, it is very sad

that u took shankaracharya name in that....may be the recent events

made you to believe and it may at best be yours personal view....

 

But you must be aware that kanchi chandrasekara saraswathi swamigal,

the earlier peetadhipathy of kanchi mutt is great astrologer himself

and he performed many many miracles in the lives of many many...he

is almost considered as reavatar of adi shankaracharya...

he predicted all the events including the one which is going to rock

the peetam itself but still sometimes there are valid reasons to

stop intervening in the cosmic activity.

 

I am not aware of the situation prevailed in 1966 when all the

planets seems to be in one house or one rekha as they call it..but

to ward off the ill effects, his rendition of "kolaru pathigam" is

still a master piece to ward of all navagraha afflictions...

 

Sri.Sankaracharya is definitely above all this people u quoted ...

 

regards

sriganeshh

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> this subject of predicting natural calamities with success keep

> coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

>

> here is what i observed based on facts:

>

> in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas, in

> thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

> predictions, have started listing the following incidents for the

> CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

>

> 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

> 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

> 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the country.

> 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from

foreign

> lands.

> 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

>

> as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all the

> above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country every

> year.

>

> some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an incident

> happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the origin of

> the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

> calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

>

> forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this country

> at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the president

> and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE GODMEN

WHO

> ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE FOLLOWERS

> HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL THESE

> GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

> CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND

> CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM FOR

> SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER DONATIONS.

>

> so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

> avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural calamity,

how

> can an ordinary astrologer predict.

>

> please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these

years

> predicting an incident beforehand.

>

> in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

> veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he got

> brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in

andhra

> and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he too

> did not give any dates.

>

> we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> predicting future incidents in advance for the country,

specifically

> natural calamities.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >

> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > like to answer it., in short.

> >

> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he

may

> try.

> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge

of

> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I

> mean

> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing

> is

> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from

> Him.

> >

> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth

our

> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ji

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

> before

> > hand through astrologers.

> > >

> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > >

> > > 1) Prediction went right

> > >

> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

before

> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

many

> > people by these natural disasters ?

> > >

> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > >

> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

> faith

> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > >

> > >

> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > >

> > > Any comments ?

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > >

> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after

> the

> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement

in

> r-

> > > scale is only 4....

> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> friends,

> > > who trust me....

> > > Regards,

> > > Gaurav

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> Earth),

> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him

with

> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

housewives

> hand

> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > > >

> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> > taking

> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have

> been

> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > countries,

> > > or

> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

manner.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > Venketramani

> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

> 70%

> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > > last 2

> > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

predictions

> > > lack

> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons

> on

> > > may

> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > inprediciting

> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

when

> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> majority.

> > > > >

> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th

he

> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > > attack

> > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > >

> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > location

> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

error

> > > was

> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > inshifting

> > > > people

> > > > >

> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to

> the

> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary

too.

> > > > >

> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

> there

> > > > astrologically.

> > > > >

> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > >

> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > astologers

> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp

the

> > > left

> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > >

> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >

> > > > group but

> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail

or

> > > phone.

> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

also

> > > > >

> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > 09840051861

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear SriGaneshji,

 

I am sure he did not mean the previous ones,but only the recent one

because of involvement.

 

Astrologically, all 7 planets in any one Bhava, is one of the Sankhya

Yogas and known as Gol Yoga.

Results for above yoga- malicious, stupid,undesirable activities,

scourge to society, indolent and nomadic.

 

In fact there is a inside truth that already one Anti-Christ person

has been born in the world on 05-02-1962, but who is he, I

think only the Satan would know,or his followers would know ?

 

I just remembered the above Yoga after reading your post, so

thought let me share this with you.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, "sriganeshh"

<sriganeshh wrote:

>

> Dear Pandit Arjunji,,

>

>

> while i really appreciate ur facts based mail post, it is very sad

> that u took shankaracharya name in that....may be the recent events

> made you to believe and it may at best be yours personal view....

>

> But you must be aware that kanchi chandrasekara saraswathi

swamigal,

> the earlier peetadhipathy of kanchi mutt is great astrologer

himself

> and he performed many many miracles in the lives of many many...he

> is almost considered as reavatar of adi shankaracharya...

> he predicted all the events including the one which is going to

rock

> the peetam itself but still sometimes there are valid reasons to

> stop intervening in the cosmic activity.

>

> I am not aware of the situation prevailed in 1966 when all the

> planets seems to be in one house or one rekha as they call it..but

> to ward off the ill effects, his rendition of "kolaru pathigam" is

> still a master piece to ward of all navagraha afflictions...

>

> Sri.Sankaracharya is definitely above all this people u quoted ...

>

> regards

> sriganeshh

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > this subject of predicting natural calamities with success keep

> > coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

> >

> > here is what i observed based on facts:

> >

> > in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas, in

> > thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

> > predictions, have started listing the following incidents for the

> > CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

> >

> > 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

> > 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> > 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> > 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

> > 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the country.

> > 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from

> foreign

> > lands.

> > 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> > 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> > 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> > 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

> >

> > as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all the

> > above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country every

> > year.

> >

> > some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> > suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an incident

> > happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the origin

of

> > the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

> > calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

> >

> > forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this

country

> > at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the president

> > and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> > shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE GODMEN

> WHO

> > ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE

FOLLOWERS

> > HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL THESE

> > GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

> > CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND

> > CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM FOR

> > SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER DONATIONS.

> >

> > so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

> > avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural calamity,

> how

> > can an ordinary astrologer predict.

> >

> > please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these

> years

> > predicting an incident beforehand.

> >

> > in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

> > veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he got

> > brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in

> andhra

> > and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he

too

> > did not give any dates.

> >

> > we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> > predicting future incidents in advance for the country,

> specifically

> > natural calamities.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Jagdishji,

> > >

> > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > > like to answer it., in short.

> > >

> > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he

> may

> > try.

> > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge

> of

> > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I

> > mean

> > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

like

> > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs

of

> > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

nothing

> > is

> > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from

> > Him.

> > >

> > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth

> our

> > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ji

> > > >

> > > > Greetings

> > > >

> > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

> > before

> > > hand through astrologers.

> > > >

> > > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Prediction went right

> > > >

> > > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

> before

> > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

> many

> > > people by these natural disasters ?

> > > >

> > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > > >

> > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

> > faith

> > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > > >

> > > > Any comments ?

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > > >

> > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after

> > the

> > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement

> in

> > r-

> > > > scale is only 4....

> > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> > friends,

> > > > who trust me....

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Gaurav

> > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > >

> > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste.

> > > > >

> > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

newspapers.

> > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> > Earth),

> > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him

> with

> > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> housewives

> > hand

> > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> > > taking

> > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have

> > been

> > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > > countries,

> > > > or

> > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> manner.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > > Venketramani

> > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

> > 70%

> > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

the

> > > > last 2

> > > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> predictions

> > > > lack

> > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

predicitons

> > on

> > > > may

> > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > > inprediciting

> > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

> when

> > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> > majority.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

the

> > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th

> he

> > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > > > attack

> > > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > > location

> > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

> error

> > > > was

> > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > > inshifting

> > > > > people

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen

to

> > the

> > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary

> too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

happen

> > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

> > there

> > > > > astrologically.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > > astologers

> > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp

> the

> > > > left

> > > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > > >

> > > > > group but

> > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail

> or

> > > > phone.

> > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

> also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > > 09840051861

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

> out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Bhaskarji,

 

 

When we write the name shankaracharya, it refers to peetam and one

has to be very careful as he is most respected and widely followed

spiritual leader in india. Even the present one has done many good

deeds that because of him, the spiritual movement in tamilnadu

survived otherwise in the hands of dravidian movement, it would have

died long back...again if you see the year of raising, it is 1966.

 

It is easy to write critisizing mails about gods and god men,but

before doing that, achieve something good as all these have done

(positive actions)and then critisize...otherwise i am sure it will

be negative action and all the accrued punyas will vanish in thin

air....

 

regards

sriganeshh

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear SriGaneshji,

>

> I am sure he did not mean the previous ones,but only the recent

one

> because of involvement.

>

> Astrologically, all 7 planets in any one Bhava, is one of the

Sankhya

> Yogas and known as Gol Yoga.

> Results for above yoga- malicious, stupid,undesirable activities,

> scourge to society, indolent and nomadic.

>

> In fact there is a inside truth that already one Anti-Christ person

> has been born in the world on 05-02-1962, but who is he, I

> think only the Satan would know,or his followers would know ?

>

> I just remembered the above Yoga after reading your post, so

> thought let me share this with you.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , "sriganeshh"

> <sriganeshh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pandit Arjunji,,

> >

> >

> > while i really appreciate ur facts based mail post, it is very

sad

> > that u took shankaracharya name in that....may be the recent

events

> > made you to believe and it may at best be yours personal view....

> >

> > But you must be aware that kanchi chandrasekara saraswathi

> swamigal,

> > the earlier peetadhipathy of kanchi mutt is great astrologer

> himself

> > and he performed many many miracles in the lives of many

many...he

> > is almost considered as reavatar of adi shankaracharya...

> > he predicted all the events including the one which is going to

> rock

> > the peetam itself but still sometimes there are valid reasons to

> > stop intervening in the cosmic activity.

> >

> > I am not aware of the situation prevailed in 1966 when all the

> > planets seems to be in one house or one rekha as they call

it..but

> > to ward off the ill effects, his rendition of "kolaru pathigam"

is

> > still a master piece to ward of all navagraha afflictions...

> >

> > Sri.Sankaracharya is definitely above all this people u

quoted ...

> >

> > regards

> > sriganeshh

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > this subject of predicting natural calamities with success

keep

> > > coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

> > >

> > > here is what i observed based on facts:

> > >

> > > in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas,

in

> > > thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

> > > predictions, have started listing the following incidents for

the

> > > CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

> > >

> > > 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

> > > 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> > > 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> > > 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

> > > 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the

country.

> > > 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from

> > foreign

> > > lands.

> > > 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> > > 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> > > 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> > > 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

> > >

> > > as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all

the

> > > above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country

every

> > > year.

> > >

> > > some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> > > suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an

incident

> > > happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the

origin

> of

> > > the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

> > > calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

> > >

> > > forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this

> country

> > > at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the

president

> > > and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> > > shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE

GODMEN

> > WHO

> > > ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE

> FOLLOWERS

> > > HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL

THESE

> > > GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

> > > CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD

AND

> > > CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM

FOR

> > > SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER

DONATIONS.

> > >

> > > so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

> > > avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural

calamity,

> > how

> > > can an ordinary astrologer predict.

> > >

> > > please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these

> > years

> > > predicting an incident beforehand.

> > >

> > > in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

> > > veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he

got

> > > brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in

> > andhra

> > > and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he

> too

> > > did not give any dates.

> > >

> > > we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> > > predicting future incidents in advance for the country,

> > specifically

> > > natural calamities.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Jagdishji,

> > > >

> > > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > > > like to answer it., in short.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way

he

> > may

> > > try.

> > > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

from

> > > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

foreknowledge

> > of

> > > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from

God, I

> > > mean

> > > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

> like

> > > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

lakhs

> of

> > > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> nothing

> > > is

> > > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

from

> > > Him.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

mouth

> > our

> > > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Greetings

> > > > >

> > > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and

earthquake

> > > before

> > > > hand through astrologers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Prediction went right

> > > > >

> > > > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

> > before

> > > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to

kill

> > many

> > > > people by these natural disasters ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > > > >

> > > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose

their

> > > faith

> > > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any comments ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jagdish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's

lunar

> > > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

after

> > > the

> > > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

measurement

> > in

> > > r-

> > > > > scale is only 4....

> > > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> > > friends,

> > > > > who trust me....

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> newspapers.

> > > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

line.

> > > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> > > Earth),

> > > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

him

> > with

> > > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> > housewives

> > > hand

> > > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another

way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

Ganeshji

> > > > taking

> > > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

have

> > > been

> > > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > > > countries,

> > > > > or

> > > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> > manner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prashant Kumar

G B

> > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > > > Venketramani

> > > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors

has

> > > 70%

> > > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

> the

> > > > > last 2

> > > > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> > astrology

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> > predictions

> > > > > lack

> > > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> predicitons

> > > on

> > > > > may

> > > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

collection.

> > > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > > > inprediciting

> > > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in

71

> > when

> > > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> > > majority.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

> the

> > > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on

7th

> > he

> > > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

terrorist

> > > > > attack

> > > > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > > > location

> > > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

> > error

> > > > > was

> > > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend

millions

> > > > > inshifting

> > > > > > people

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they

happen

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as

precautonary

> > too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

> happen

> > > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake

r

> > > there

> > > > > > astrologically.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > > > astologers

> > > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway.

esp

> > the

> > > > > left

> > > > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > > > >

> > > > > > group but

> > > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

mail

> > or

> > > > > phone.

> > > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal

ID

> > also

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > > > 09840051861

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

> > out.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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dear ganeshji

 

my inclusing of his holiness jagat guru adi shankaracharyaji name

along with other kalki avataars is only to the extent of predicting

natural calamities in advance (like the tsunami) and averting the

loss of life instead of distributing blankets and food packets to

the widows and children who lost their breadearning men, family,

house, property and every thing.

 

also this observatin of mine is not critical and is meant ONLY TO

HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THE ACTS OF GOD HAVE NOT BE STOPPED BY ANY

GODMEN OF PRESENT DAYS.

 

as regards the respect and reverence of the kanchi math, it is the

most respected math in the country and has its own colleges,

schools, hospitals and free vedic teaching institutions and various

temples. no brahmin from south india can ever forget the great

contribution this great math has done to the country.

 

please take my observation only to the extent of not predicting the

natural disasters and calamities in advance and averting loss of

life.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

, "sriganeshh"

<sriganeshh wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

>

> When we write the name shankaracharya, it refers to peetam and one

> has to be very careful as he is most respected and widely followed

> spiritual leader in india. Even the present one has done many good

> deeds that because of him, the spiritual movement in tamilnadu

> survived otherwise in the hands of dravidian movement, it would

have

> died long back...again if you see the year of raising, it is 1966.

>

> It is easy to write critisizing mails about gods and god men,but

> before doing that, achieve something good as all these have done

> (positive actions)and then critisize...otherwise i am sure it will

> be negative action and all the accrued punyas will vanish in thin

> air....

>

> regards

> sriganeshh

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear SriGaneshji,

> >

> > I am sure he did not mean the previous ones,but only the recent

> one

> > because of involvement.

> >

> > Astrologically, all 7 planets in any one Bhava, is one of the

> Sankhya

> > Yogas and known as Gol Yoga.

> > Results for above yoga- malicious, stupid,undesirable activities,

> > scourge to society, indolent and nomadic.

> >

> > In fact there is a inside truth that already one Anti-Christ

person

> > has been born in the world on 05-02-1962, but who is he, I

> > think only the Satan would know,or his followers would know ?

> >

> > I just remembered the above Yoga after reading your post, so

> > thought let me share this with you.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "sriganeshh"

> > <sriganeshh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit Arjunji,,

> > >

> > >

> > > while i really appreciate ur facts based mail post, it is very

> sad

> > > that u took shankaracharya name in that....may be the recent

> events

> > > made you to believe and it may at best be yours personal

view....

> > >

> > > But you must be aware that kanchi chandrasekara saraswathi

> > swamigal,

> > > the earlier peetadhipathy of kanchi mutt is great astrologer

> > himself

> > > and he performed many many miracles in the lives of many

> many...he

> > > is almost considered as reavatar of adi shankaracharya...

> > > he predicted all the events including the one which is going

to

> > rock

> > > the peetam itself but still sometimes there are valid reasons

to

> > > stop intervening in the cosmic activity.

> > >

> > > I am not aware of the situation prevailed in 1966 when all the

> > > planets seems to be in one house or one rekha as they call

> it..but

> > > to ward off the ill effects, his rendition of "kolaru

pathigam"

> is

> > > still a master piece to ward of all navagraha afflictions...

> > >

> > > Sri.Sankaracharya is definitely above all this people u

> quoted ...

> > >

> > > regards

> > > sriganeshh

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > this subject of predicting natural calamities with success

> keep

> > > > coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

> > > >

> > > > here is what i observed based on facts:

> > > >

> > > > in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas,

> in

> > > > thier zeal to find their place in the list of most

successful

> > > > predictions, have started listing the following incidents

for

> the

> > > > CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

> > > >

> > > > 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and

property.

> > > > 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> > > > 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> > > > 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT)

field.

> > > > 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the

> country.

> > > > 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from

> > > foreign

> > > > lands.

> > > > 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> > > > 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> > > > 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> > > > 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

> > > >

> > > > as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all

> the

> > > > above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country

> every

> > > > year.

> > > >

> > > > some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> > > > suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an

> incident

> > > > happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the

> origin

> > of

> > > > the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of

a

> > > > calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

> > > >

> > > > forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this

> > country

> > > > at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the

> president

> > > > and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> > > > shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE

> GODMEN

> > > WHO

> > > > ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE

> > FOLLOWERS

> > > > HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL

> THESE

> > > > GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER

THE

> > > > CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE

FOOD

> AND

> > > > CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM

> FOR

> > > > SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER

> DONATIONS.

> > > >

> > > > so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the

kalki

> > > > avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural

> calamity,

> > > how

> > > > can an ordinary astrologer predict.

> > > >

> > > > please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of

these

> > > years

> > > > predicting an incident beforehand.

> > > >

> > > > in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called

potuluri

> > > > veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he

> got

> > > > brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in

> > > andhra

> > > > and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus

he

> > too

> > > > did not give any dates.

> > > >

> > > > we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> > > > predicting future incidents in advance for the country,

> > > specifically

> > > > natural calamities.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Jagdishji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > > > > like to answer it., in short.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way

> he

> > > may

> > > > try.

> > > > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

> from

> > > > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

> foreknowledge

> > > of

> > > > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from

> God, I

> > > > mean

> > > > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing.

Just

> > like

> > > > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

> lakhs

> > of

> > > > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> > nothing

> > > > is

> > > > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

> from

> > > > Him.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

> mouth

> > > our

> > > > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about

that.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > > > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Greetings

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and

> earthquake

> > > > before

> > > > > hand through astrologers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Prediction went right

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case many people can save their lives by

acting

> > > before

> > > > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to

> kill

> > > many

> > > > > people by these natural disasters ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose

> their

> > > > faith

> > > > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-

sword.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any comments ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jagdish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's

> lunar

> > > > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

> after

> > > > the

> > > > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

> measurement

> > > in

> > > > r-

> > > > > > scale is only 4....

> > > > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of

my

> > > > friends,

> > > > > > who trust me....

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> > newspapers.

> > > > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how

he

> > > > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

> line.

> > > > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation

to

> > > > Earth),

> > > > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

> him

> > > with

> > > > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> > > housewives

> > > > hand

> > > > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in

another

> way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

> Ganeshji

> > > > > taking

> > > > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

> have

> > > > been

> > > > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or

by

> > > > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from

foreign

> > > > > countries,

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> > > manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Prashant

Kumar

> G B

> > > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > > > > Venketramani

> > > > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical

factors

> has

> > > > 70%

> > > > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and

another

> > the

> > > > > > last 2

> > > > > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> > > astrology

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> > > predictions

> > > > > > lack

> > > > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> > predicitons

> > > > on

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

> collection.

> > > > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > > > > inprediciting

> > > > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in

> 71

> > > when

> > > > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a

bumper

> > > > majority.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani

about

> > the

> > > > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak

on

> 7th

> > > he

> > > > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

> terrorist

> > > > > > attack

> > > > > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in

assak

> > > > > > location

> > > > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3

day

> > > error

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend

> millions

> > > > > > inshifting

> > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they

> happen

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as

> precautonary

> > > too.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

> > happen

> > > > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth

quake

> r

> > > > there

> > > > > > > astrologically.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > > > > astologers

> > > > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway.

> esp

> > > the

> > > > > > left

> > > > > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > group but

> > > > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

> mail

> > > or

> > > > > > phone.

> > > > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal

> ID

> > > also

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > > > > 09840051861

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check

it

> > > out.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Prafulla,

predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western astrology uses fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its effect a collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader, king, don, CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our evil time we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife, tragedy etc.

the Samohika karmaphala

I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here sotme back

in short again here

when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a bus skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on the edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was pulled out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the piligrims in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma that he will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike and his good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs later became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far, noow called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even Jayednra saraswathi in to its web.

so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can destroy us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and bad that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85% max rest is god's will...

 

Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji,

Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature (whether for

mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in my view

- astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it uncertain

!!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns, so that

native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti from the

life/death cycle).

On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial issues

for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of jyotish.

regards / Prafulla

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Jagdishji,

>

> Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> like to answer it., in short.

>

> 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may try.

> If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I mean

> He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing is

> unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from Him.

>

> 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our

> predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ji

> >

> > Greetings

> >

> > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before

> hand through astrologers.

> >

> > Now there are two possabilities.

> >

> > 1) Prediction went right

> >

> > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before

> natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many

> people by these natural disasters ?

> >

> > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> >

> >

> > 2) Prediction went wrong

> >

> > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith

> and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> >

> >

> > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> >

> > Any comments ?

> >

> > Jagdish

> >

> >

> >

> > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> >

> > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

> > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

> > scale is only 4....

> > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

> > who trust me....

> > Regards,

> > Gaurav

> > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives hand

> > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > >

> > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> taking

> > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> countries,

> > or

> > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Readers,

> > > >

> > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > Venketramani

> > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > last 2

> > > strong leftists.

> > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > >

> > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > lack

> > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

> > may

> > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > inprediciting

> > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper majority.

> > > >

> > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > attack

> > > will happen near a religious place

> > > >

> > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > location

> > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> > was

> > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > inshifting

> > > people

> > > >

> > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > >

> > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> > > astrologically.

> > > >

> > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > >

> > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > astologers

> > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > left

> > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > >

> > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> >

> > > group but

> > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > phone.

> > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > >

> > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > 09840051861

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

 

Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

 

Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and moksha kona?

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a result but not the purpose.

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> gbp_kumar

> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

>

> Prafulla,

> predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western astrology uses

> fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its effect a

> collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader, king, don,

> CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our evil time

> we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife, tragedy etc.

> the Samohika karmaphala

>

> I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here sotme back

>

> in short again here

> when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a bus

> skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the

> ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on the

> edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was pulled

> out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the piligrims

> in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma that he

> will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike and his

> good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs later

> became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far, noow

> called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more

> accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even Jayednra

> saraswathi in to its web.

>

> so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can destroy

> us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if

> anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and bad

> that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85% max rest

> is god's will..

>

>

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature (whether for

> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

>

> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in my view

> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it uncertain

> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns, so that

> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti from the

> life/death cycle).

>

> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial issues

> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of jyotish.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> >

> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >

> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > like to answer it., in short.

> >

> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may

> try.

> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I mean

> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing is

> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from Him.

> >

> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our

> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ji

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake before

> > hand through astrologers.

> > >

> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > >

> > > 1) Prediction went right

> > >

> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before

> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many

> > people by these natural disasters ?

> > >

> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > >

> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their faith

> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > >

> > >

> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > >

> > > Any comments ?

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > >

> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after the

> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in r-

> > > scale is only 4....

> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my friends,

> > > who trust me....

> > > Regards,

> > > Gaurav

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to Earth),

> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives

> hand

> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > > >

> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> > taking

> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have been

> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > countries,

> > > or

> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > Venketramani

> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has 70%

> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > > last 2

> > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > > lack

> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons on

> > > may

> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > inprediciting

> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> majority.

> > > > >

> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > > attack

> > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > >

> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > location

> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> > > was

> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > inshifting

> > > > people

> > > > >

> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to the

> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > > >

> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r there

> > > > astrologically.

> > > > >

> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > >

> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > astologers

> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > > left

> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > >

> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >

> > > > group but

> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > > phone.

> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > > >

> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > 09840051861

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Shri Prafullaji,

 

Gods desire, as I learnt from exalted souls, keeps on fluctuating

as per mass new karmas of people all around in the world. He

is too merciful to allow extermination of a large number of humans at

a single time or shot. In case of mass killings individual

charts cease to work or have their effects,except if a exalted soul

is in midst as Prashantji mentioned. Whenever too much of

evil is being done by people on earth, then the desire to

remove the weight on Earth, comes in Gods mind, this is what

I understood. This happens in a cycle of ... years , when the

axis of the Earth shifts,in major gigantic forms also when Pralaya,

or when total creation is submerged in water (Noahs Ark) and

recreated again.

 

In these solitary cases such as terrorism, tsunami, (Solitary means

periodcially at different regions ), do also ,part a plan of

removing the weight , to mantain the balance on Earth.

 

Unfortunately when retribution in these forms comes even the

innocents at times come under the siege, just like a insect who comes

by mistake in the grinding wheel, along with the grain or husk.

 

God does not have any problem with any human being as such, just

like the Sun does not have any qualms with anyone. It shines equally

on a saint and on a sinner. But the nature has been given this work.,

and we all fall under the category where Nature deals with our

positives and negatives and rewards or punishes accordingly.

 

As regards to astrology,we just have to worry that we dont fall in

the crowd which comes in the extermination category, and

continue with the belief in astrology and its remedial measures.

For Not to fall in the category mentioned, apart from remedial

measures which will make our individual life better in the departments

which we want,...................... we also have to..............

go few steps forward and become better human beings, more saintly or

less sinners, this time the remedial measures would not be

aimed at ones own self but selfless, so that when the time comes

for extermination, due to being extremely good, we are automatically

transferred by fate to some other area, and thus be saved.

 

I am sorry this may sound like preaching or pravachan, but I have no

other way of explaining,

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

>

> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It

was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So

I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen

for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

>

> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why

not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and

moksha kona?

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a

result but not the purpose.

>

> ************************************************

>

>

> >

> > gbp_kumar

> > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> > Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> >

> > Prafulla,

> > predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

astrology uses

> > fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

effect a

> > collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

king, don,

> > CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

evil time

> > we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

tragedy etc.

> > the Samohika karmaphala

> >

> > I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

sotme back

> >

> > in short again here

> > when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a

bus

> > skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the

> > ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on

the

> > edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was

pulled

> > out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

piligrims

> > in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

that he

> > will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike

and his

> > good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

later

> > became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far,

noow

> > called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more

> > accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

Jayednra

> > saraswathi in to its web.

> >

> > so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can

destroy

> > us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if

> > anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and

bad

> > that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85%

max rest

> > is god's will..

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

(whether for

> > mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

> >

> > Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in

my view

> > - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

> > uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

uncertain

> > !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns,

so that

> > native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

> > awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti

from the

> > life/death cycle).

> >

> > On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial

issues

> > for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of

jyotish.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Jagdishji,

> > >

> > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > > like to answer it., in short.

> > >

> > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he

may

> > try.

> > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

from

> > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

foreknowledge of

> > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God,

I mean

> > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

like

> > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

lakhs of

> > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

nothing is

> > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

from Him.

> > >

> > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

mouth our

> > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ji

> > > >

> > > > Greetings

> > > >

> > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

before

> > > hand through astrologers.

> > > >

> > > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Prediction went right

> > > >

> > > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

before

> > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

many

> > > people by these natural disasters ?

> > > >

> > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > > >

> > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

faith

> > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > > >

> > > > Any comments ?

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > > >

> > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

after the

> > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

measurement in r-

> > > > scale is only 4....

> > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

friends,

> > > > who trust me....

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Gaurav

> > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > >

> > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste.

> > > > >

> > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

newspapers.

> > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

line.

> > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

Earth),

> > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

him with

> > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

housewives

> > hand

> > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another

way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

Ganeshji

> > > taking

> > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

have been

> > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > > countries,

> > > > or

> > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

manner.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G

B

> > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > > Venketramani

> > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors

has 70%

> > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

the

> > > > last 2

> > > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

predictions

> > > > lack

> > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

predicitons on

> > > > may

> > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

collection.

> > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > > inprediciting

> > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

when

> > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> > majority.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

the

> > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on

7th he

> > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

terrorist

> > > > attack

> > > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > > location

> > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

error

> > > > was

> > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > > inshifting

> > > > > people

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen

to the

> > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary

too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

happen

> > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

there

> > > > > astrologically.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > > astologers

> > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp

the

> > > > left

> > > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > > >

> > > > > group but

> > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

mail or

> > > > phone.

> > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > > 09840051861

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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I thoroughly enjoyed it !! I was not questioning god's might - but the helplessness of human beings and jyotish.

 

>From our religious backgrounds - we have always correlated future to God - in some form or other !!

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a result but not the purpose.

 

**************************************************

 

 

>

> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in

> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:31:10 -0000

>

> Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

>

> Shri Prafullaji,

>

> Gods desire, as I learnt from exalted souls, keeps on fluctuating

> as per mass new karmas of people all around in the world. He

> is too merciful to allow extermination of a large number of humans at

> a single time or shot. In case of mass killings individual

> charts cease to work or have their effects,except if a exalted soul

> is in midst as Prashantji mentioned. Whenever too much of

> evil is being done by people on earth, then the desire to

> remove the weight on Earth, comes in Gods mind, this is what

> I understood. This happens in a cycle of ... years , when the

> axis of the Earth shifts,in major gigantic forms also when Pralaya,

> or when total creation is submerged in water (Noahs Ark) and

> recreated again.

>

> In these solitary cases such as terrorism, tsunami, (Solitary means

> periodcially at different regions ), do also ,part a plan of

> removing the weight , to mantain the balance on Earth.

>

> Unfortunately when retribution in these forms comes even the

> innocents at times come under the siege, just like a insect who comes

> by mistake in the grinding wheel, along with the grain or husk.

>

> God does not have any problem with any human being as such, just

> like the Sun does not have any qualms with anyone. It shines equally

> on a saint and on a sinner. But the nature has been given this work.,

> and we all fall under the category where Nature deals with our

> positives and negatives and rewards or punishes accordingly.

>

> As regards to astrology,we just have to worry that we dont fall in

> the crowd which comes in the extermination category, and

> continue with the belief in astrology and its remedial measures.

> For Not to fall in the category mentioned, apart from remedial

> measures which will make our individual life better in the departments

> which we want,...................... we also have to..............

> go few steps forward and become better human beings, more saintly or

> less sinners, this time the remedial measures would not be

> aimed at ones own self but selfless, so that when the time comes

> for extermination, due to being extremely good, we are automatically

> transferred by fate to some other area, and thus be saved.

>

> I am sorry this may sound like preaching or pravachan, but I have no

> other way of explaining,

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

>>

>> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It

> was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So

> I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen

> for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

>>

>> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why

> not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and

> moksha kona?

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

> these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

> interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a

> result but not the purpose.

>>

>> ************************************************

>>

>>

>>>

>>> gbp_kumar

>>> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

>>>

>>> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

>>>

>>> Prafulla,

>>> predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

> astrology uses

>>> fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

> effect a

>>> collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

> king, don,

>>> CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

> evil time

>>> we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

> tragedy etc.

>>> the Samohika karmaphala

>>>

>>> I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

> sotme back

>>>

>>> in short again here

>>> when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a

> bus

>>> skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the

>>> ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on

> the

>>> edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was

> pulled

>>> out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

> piligrims

>>> in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

> that he

>>> will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike

> and his

>>> good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

> later

>>> became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far,

> noow

>>> called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more

>>> accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

> Jayednra

>>> saraswathi in to its web.

>>>

>>> so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can

> destroy

>>> us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if

>>> anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and

> bad

>>> that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85%

> max rest

>>> is god's will..

>>>

>>>

>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>>> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>>>

>>> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

> (whether for

>>> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

>>>

>>> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in

> my view

>>> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

>>> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

> uncertain

>>> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns,

> so that

>>> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

>>> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti

> from the

>>> life/death cycle).

>>>

>>> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial

> issues

>>> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of

> jyotish.

>>>

>>> regards / Prafulla

>>>

>>> , "Bhaskar"

>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>> >

>>> > Shri Jagdishji,

>>> >

>>> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

>>> > like to answer it., in short.

>>> >

>>> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he

> may

>>> try.

>>> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

> from

>>> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

> foreknowledge of

>>> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God,

> I mean

>>> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

> like

>>> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

> lakhs of

>>> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> nothing is

>>> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

> from Him.

>>> >

>>> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

> mouth our

>>> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

>>> >

>>> > regards,

>>> > Bhaskar.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > , Prathamesn Chawan

>>> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

>>> > >

>>> > > Dear Ji

>>> > >

>>> > > Greetings

>>> > >

>>> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

> before

>>> > hand through astrologers.

>>> > >

>>> > > Now there are two possabilities.

>>> > >

>>> > > 1) Prediction went right

>>> > >

>>> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

> before

>>> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

> many

>>> > people by these natural disasters ?

>>> > >

>>> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

>>> > >

>>> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

> faith

>>> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

>>> > >

>>> > > Any comments ?

>>> > >

>>> > > Jagdish

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

>>> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

>>> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

>>> > >

>>> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

>>> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

>>> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

> after the

>>> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

>>> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

> measurement in r-

>>> > > scale is only 4....

>>> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> friends,

>>> > > who trust me....

>>> > > Regards,

>>> > > Gaurav

>>> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

>>> > >

>>> > > , "Bhaskar"

>>> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Namaste.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> newspapers.

>>> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

>>> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

> line.

>>> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

>>> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

>>> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> Earth),

>>> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

> him with

>>> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

>>> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

>>> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> housewives

>>> hand

>>> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another

> way.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

> Ganeshji

>>> > taking

>>> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

> have been

>>> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

>>> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

>>> > countries,

>>> > > or

>>> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> manner.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > regards,

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Bhaskar.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > regards,

>>> > > > Bhaskar.

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > > , Prashant Kumar G

> B

>>> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Dear Readers,

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

>>> > > Venketramani

>>> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors

> has 70%

>>> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

> the

>>> > > last 2

>>> > > > strong leftists.

>>> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> astrology

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> predictions

>>> > > lack

>>> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> predicitons on

>>> > > may

>>> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

> collection.

>>> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

>>> > > inprediciting

>>> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

> when

>>> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

>>> majority.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

> the

>>> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on

> 7th he

>>> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

> terrorist

>>> > > attack

>>> > > > will happen near a religious place

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

>>> > > location

>>> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

> error

>>> > > was

>>> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

>>> > > inshifting

>>> > > > people

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen

> to the

>>> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary

> too.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

> happen

>>> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

> there

>>> > > > astrologically.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

>>> > > astologers

>>> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp

> the

>>> > > left

>>> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

>>> > >

>>> > > > group but

>>> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

> mail or

>>> > > phone.

>>> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

> also

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

>>> > > > > 09840051861

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

> out.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

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Sir,

 

I think that for a severe Balarishta Yoga, the prediction given to a

new/little old born childs parents, would be fatilistic, and all would

have to wait for the inevitable to happen, but in case

when you see a native with impending heart problems, or Shani sade

sathi approaching , the fatilistic approach would turn into a saviour

for these natives and help and prepare them by way of

starting remedial measures, much before the incident would happen,

and thus reduce the impact.This is with reference to astrology.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

>

> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It

was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So

I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen

for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

>

> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why

not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and

moksha kona?

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a

result but not the purpose.

>

> ************************************************

>

>

> >

> > gbp_kumar

> > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> > Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> >

> > Prafulla,

> > predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

astrology uses

> > fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

effect a

> > collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

king, don,

> > CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

evil time

> > we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

tragedy etc.

> > the Samohika karmaphala

> >

> > I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

sotme back

> >

> > in short again here

> > when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a

bus

> > skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the

> > ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on

the

> > edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was

pulled

> > out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

piligrims

> > in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

that he

> > will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike

and his

> > good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

later

> > became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far,

noow

> > called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more

> > accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

Jayednra

> > saraswathi in to its web.

> >

> > so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can

destroy

> > us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if

> > anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and

bad

> > that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85%

max rest

> > is god's will..

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

(whether for

> > mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

> >

> > Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in

my view

> > - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

> > uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

uncertain

> > !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns,

so that

> > native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

> > awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti

from the

> > life/death cycle).

> >

> > On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial

issues

> > for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of

jyotish.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Jagdishji,

> > >

> > > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > > like to answer it., in short.

> > >

> > > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he

may

> > try.

> > > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

from

> > > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

foreknowledge of

> > > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God,

I mean

> > > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

like

> > > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

lakhs of

> > > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

nothing is

> > > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

from Him.

> > >

> > > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

mouth our

> > > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ji

> > > >

> > > > Greetings

> > > >

> > > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

before

> > > hand through astrologers.

> > > >

> > > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Prediction went right

> > > >

> > > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

before

> > > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

many

> > > people by these natural disasters ?

> > > >

> > > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > > >

> > > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

faith

> > > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > > >

> > > > Any comments ?

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > > >

> > > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

after the

> > > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

measurement in r-

> > > > scale is only 4....

> > > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

friends,

> > > > who trust me....

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Gaurav

> > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > >

> > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste.

> > > > >

> > > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

newspapers.

> > > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

line.

> > > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

Earth),

> > > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

him with

> > > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

housewives

> > hand

> > > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another

way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

Ganeshji

> > > taking

> > > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

have been

> > > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > > countries,

> > > > or

> > > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

manner.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G

B

> > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > > Venketramani

> > > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors

has 70%

> > > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

the

> > > > last 2

> > > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

predictions

> > > > lack

> > > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

predicitons on

> > > > may

> > > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

collection.

> > > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > > inprediciting

> > > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

when

> > > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> > majority.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

the

> > > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on

7th he

> > > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

terrorist

> > > > attack

> > > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > > location

> > > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

error

> > > > was

> > > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > > inshifting

> > > > > people

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen

to the

> > > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary

too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

happen

> > > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

there

> > > > > astrologically.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > > astologers

> > > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp

the

> > > > left

> > > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > > >

> > > > > group but

> > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

mail or

> > > > phone.

> > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > > 09840051861

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Shri Kumar ji,

 

We all human beings live on perceptions and perception may not be reality. Any opinion for/against anyone does not matter in broader terms. How is anyone affected by criticism ..do you think Saibaba / SS Ravi / Shrankacharya are bothered by our praise or criticism. Or for that matter - by any one ? No..just like socrates was not interested . A small story - with multiple tangents (from the perception one is reading it) - a little humur (please do not corelate this with shrankacharya / Saibaba or any person in the thread)

 

**quote**

In ancient Greece, Socrates was reputed to hold knowledge in high esteem. One day an acquaintance came upon the great philosopher and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about your friend?"

 

"Hold on a minute," Socrates replied. "Before telling me anything

I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test."

 

"Triple filter test?"

 

"That's right," Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my friend, let's take a moment and filter what you're going to say. The first filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?"

 

"No," the man said, "actually I just heard about it and..."

 

"All right," said Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or

not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what

you are about to tell me about my friend something good?"

 

"No, on the contrary..."

 

"So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him, and you're not certain it's true. You may still pass the test though, because there's one filter left: the filter of Usefulness.

Is what you want to tell me about my friend going to be useful to

me?"

 

"No, not really."

 

"Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither

true nor good nor even useful, why tell it to me at all?"

 

This meyhod of thought is why Socrates is considered one of the

greatest philosophers ever documented. and held in such high esteem.

 

It also explains why he never found out his best friend was screwing his wife.

 

** end quote **

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a result but not the purpose.

 

**************************************************

 

 

>

> gbp_kumar

> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:19:54 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 11/9

>

> Rev Father Arjjun,

>

> Which church do u belong to.

>

> I am sorry for so saying as some god men r there who exploited the

> gullible.

> the 3 who we can discount from them are Satya sai Baba and Mata

> Amrutanandamayi, Ravi shankar all truly secular too have done

> philanthropic work than anyone of the missionaries who are plush with

> money.

>

> AND WHY MUST GOD MEN save, save lives? in calamities how can they over

> rule nature or gods will.

> if they failed to provide relief, comfort we can surely complain,

>

> satya sai Baba free for all state-of-the-art super specialty hospital

> a with best care in the world all free just enter the registration area

> at 7 am and rest u r taken care off til then end FREE, no fear or favor

> works, all serve there a s god itself, the only problem is that they

> care for the living not the dying. that is bread winners of the family

> 15-65 if there is time do care for others too, diagnosis for all is

> done treatment only 1st for above group.

>

> not a word is ever said By anyone and worse even cherish one alive who

> came here and set up a missionary by splitting for the main one did they

> don't do good work then and what did mission do to gives its founder a

> Nobel prize just catered for 40,000 people dying on the foot path,

> 29000/40000 died in days rest within a week.ha must not forget baptized

> before that mostly poor Muslims for Bangladesh.

>

> My point is more that there are good men bad men all over so lets not

> bruish them in one stroke, one color either.

>

> we must see if the ones ulisted are doign any good work, whatever if

> they get 1 crore let them spend at least 75 laks and enjoy 25 laks of

> comfort, which politicinas will use 99laks in such cases..

>

>

>

>

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote:

> dear friends

>

> this subject of predicting natural calamities with success keep

> coming off and on and a thread follows for few days.

>

> here is what i observed based on facts:

>

> in the last five years, all astrologers and panchangakartas, in

> thier zeal to find their place in the list of most successful

> predictions, have started listing the following incidents for the

> CHART OF THE COUNTRY I.E. INDIA:

>

> 1. heavy rains and floods cause damage to fields and property.

> 2. some parts witness drought and famine.

> 3. a national leader of repute passes away.

> 4. the country progresses further in the technology (IT) field.

> 5. more terrorist attacks happen in various parts of the country.

> 6. new viral (air borne) diseases are expected to come from foreign

> lands.

> 7. india gets greater achiements in the sports arena.

> 8. a leading film personality passes away.

> 9. financial scams of large magnitude will be detected.

> 10. a top politician will be indicted for corruption.

>

> as is simple common sense without any role of astrology, all the

> above ten MACRO predictions keep happening in every country every

> year.

>

> some astrolgoers intelligent enough to go to micro level by

> suggesting direction based predictions but whenever an incident

> happens, they boast themselves by stating that since the origin of

> the particular calamity is from this side, my prediction of a

> calamity happening on the particular side predicted is true.

>

> forget about astrologers, there are so many godmen in this country

> at whose feet the top most ministers fall including the president

> and prime minister e.g. kalki bhagwan, amma, saibaba,

> shankaracharya, sriravishankar and many more. ALL THESE GODMEN WHO

> ARE TREATED AS GODS OR KALKI AVATARS BY THEIR RESPECTIVE FOLLOWERS

> HAVE NEVER PREDICTED AND AVERTED ANY NATURAL CALAMITY. ALL THESE

> GODMEN WERE SUCCESSFUL ONLY IN COLLECTING DONATIONS AFTER THE

> CALAMITY AND VISIT THE DESTRUCTION PLACES AND DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND

> CLOTHES AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND FURTHER USE THEM FOR

> SELF PUBLICITY ACROSS THE GLOBE ONLY TO ATTRACT FURTHER DONATIONS.

>

> so my submission is that if godmen who are treatd as the kalki

> avatar of the god have failed in predicting a natural calamity, how

> can an ordinary astrologer predict.

>

> please correct me if any of you have found any godmen of these years

> predicting an incident beforehand.

>

> in andhra pradesh, there used to live a saint called potuluri

> veerabrahmam who was from a low caste and illiterate but he got

> brahma jnan and predicted 1001 incidents that will happen in andhra

> and all of them are happening. of course, like nostradamus he too

> did not give any dates.

>

> we are yet to see any godman, clairvoyant or an astrolgoer

> predicting future incidents in advance for the country, specifically

> natural calamities.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> >

> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >

> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > like to answer it., in short.

> >

> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he may

> try.

> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared from

> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get foreknowledge of

> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God, I

> mean

> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just like

> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and lakhs of

> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and nothing

> is

> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible from

> Him.

> >

> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to mouth our

> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ji

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

> before

> > hand through astrologers.

> > >

> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > >

> > > 1) Prediction went right

> > >

> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting before

> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill many

> > people by these natural disasters ?

> > >

> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > >

> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

> faith

> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > >

> > >

> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> > >

> > > Any comments ?

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > >

> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as after

> the

> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the measurement in

> r-

> > > scale is only 4....

> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> friends,

> > > who trust me....

> > > Regards,

> > > Gaurav

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning newspapers.

> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one line.

> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> Earth),

> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate him with

> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the housewives

> hand

> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another way.

> > > >

> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as Ganeshji

> > taking

> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems have

> been

> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> > countries,

> > > or

> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this manner.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Readers,

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > > Venketramani

> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors has

> 70%

> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another the

> > > last 2

> > > > strong leftists.

> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed predictions

> > > lack

> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams predicitons

> on

> > > may

> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited collection.

> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > > inprediciting

> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71 when

> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> majority.

> > > > >

> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about the

> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on 7th he

> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major terrorist

> > > attack

> > > > will happen near a religious place

> > > > >

> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> > > location

> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day error

> > > was

> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

> > > inshifting

> > > > people

> > > > >

> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen to

> the

> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary too.

> > > > >

> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to happen

> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

> there

> > > > astrologically.

> > > > >

> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > > > >

> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> > > astologers

> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp the

> > > left

> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > > >

> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >

> > > > group but

> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> > > phone.

> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > > > >

> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > > > 09840051861

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Great note. I referred a very interesteing note by Dear Rishi on another thread, around the remedial measures for 3/6/10/11. I am still pondering, why Sage Parashar did not include them for his remedial prescription.

 

Whether we call it the need of modern yuga or our greater insight into jyotish - but are our remedial patterns in line with sage parashar (or say per jyotish objective). We all (including me) do prescribe remedial measures (and do for ourselves too) - but Rishi's question is still unanswered.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a result but not the purpose.

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in

> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:41:57 -0000

>

> Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

>

> Sir,

>

> I think that for a severe Balarishta Yoga, the prediction given to a

> new/little old born childs parents, would be fatilistic, and all would

> have to wait for the inevitable to happen, but in case

> when you see a native with impending heart problems, or Shani sade

> sathi approaching , the fatilistic approach would turn into a saviour

> for these natives and help and prepare them by way of

> starting remedial measures, much before the incident would happen,

> and thus reduce the impact.This is with reference to astrology.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

>>

>> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji). It

> was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? - So

> I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will happen

> for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

>>

>> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why

> not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and

> moksha kona?

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

> these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

> interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a

> result but not the purpose.

>>

>> ************************************************

>>

>>

>>>

>>> gbp_kumar

>>> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

>>>

>>> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

>>>

>>> Prafulla,

>>> predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

> astrology uses

>>> fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

> effect a

>>> collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

> king, don,

>>> CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

> evil time

>>> we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

> tragedy etc.

>>> the Samohika karmaphala

>>>

>>> I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

> sotme back

>>>

>>> in short again here

>>> when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a

> bus

>>> skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of the

>>> ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on

> the

>>> edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was

> pulled

>>> out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

> piligrims

>>> in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

> that he

>>> will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike

> and his

>>> good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

> later

>>> became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far,

> noow

>>> called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one more

>>> accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

> Jayednra

>>> saraswathi in to its web.

>>>

>>> so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can

> destroy

>>> us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives if

>>> anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good and

> bad

>>> that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85%

> max rest

>>> is god's will..

>>>

>>>

>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>>> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>>>

>>> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

> (whether for

>>> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial measure?

>>>

>>> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in

> my view

>>> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

>>> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

> uncertain

>>> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns,

> so that

>>> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

>>> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti

> from the

>>> life/death cycle).

>>>

>>> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial

> issues

>>> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of

> jyotish.

>>>

>>> regards / Prafulla

>>>

>>> , "Bhaskar"

>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>> >

>>> > Shri Jagdishji,

>>> >

>>> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

>>> > like to answer it., in short.

>>> >

>>> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way he

> may

>>> try.

>>> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

> from

>>> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

> foreknowledge of

>>> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from God,

> I mean

>>> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

> like

>>> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

> lakhs of

>>> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> nothing is

>>> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

> from Him.

>>> >

>>> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

> mouth our

>>> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

>>> >

>>> > regards,

>>> > Bhaskar.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > , Prathamesn Chawan

>>> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

>>> > >

>>> > > Dear Ji

>>> > >

>>> > > Greetings

>>> > >

>>> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and earthquake

> before

>>> > hand through astrologers.

>>> > >

>>> > > Now there are two possabilities.

>>> > >

>>> > > 1) Prediction went right

>>> > >

>>> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

> before

>>> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to kill

> many

>>> > people by these natural disasters ?

>>> > >

>>> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

>>> > >

>>> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose their

> faith

>>> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

>>> > >

>>> > > Any comments ?

>>> > >

>>> > > Jagdish

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

>>> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

>>> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

>>> > >

>>> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

>>> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's lunar

>>> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

> after the

>>> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

>>> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

> measurement in r-

>>> > > scale is only 4....

>>> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> friends,

>>> > > who trust me....

>>> > > Regards,

>>> > > Gaurav

>>> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

>>> > >

>>> > > , "Bhaskar"

>>> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Namaste.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> newspapers.

>>> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

>>> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

> line.

>>> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

>>> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

>>> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> Earth),

>>> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

> him with

>>> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

>>> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

>>> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> housewives

>>> hand

>>> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another

> way.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

> Ganeshji

>>> > taking

>>> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

> have been

>>> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or by

>>> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

>>> > countries,

>>> > > or

>>> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> manner.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > regards,

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Bhaskar.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > regards,

>>> > > > Bhaskar.

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > >

>>> > > > , Prashant Kumar G

> B

>>> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Dear Readers,

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

>>> > > Venketramani

>>> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors

> has 70%

>>> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

> the

>>> > > last 2

>>> > > > strong leftists.

>>> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> astrology

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> predictions

>>> > > lack

>>> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> predicitons on

>>> > > may

>>> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

> collection.

>>> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

>>> > > inprediciting

>>> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in 71

> when

>>> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

>>> majority.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

> the

>>> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on

> 7th he

>>> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

> terrorist

>>> > > attack

>>> > > > will happen near a religious place

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

>>> > > location

>>> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

> error

>>> > > was

>>> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend millions

>>> > > inshifting

>>> > > > people

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they happen

> to the

>>> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as precautonary

> too.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

> happen

>>> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake r

> there

>>> > > > astrologically.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

>>> > > astologers

>>> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway. esp

> the

>>> > > left

>>> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

>>> > >

>>> > > > group but

>>> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

> mail or

>>> > > phone.

>>> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

> also

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

>>> > > > > 09840051861

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

> out.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > >

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Sir,

about 3,6,10 and 11 I did not understand actually what remedial

measures need to be mentioned. 11th itself is a remedy for bad health.

So is the 5th house considering the 6th for disease. 11th is a very

good house for the Lagna Lord to be placed in (Health and wealth both

plus succes plus daughters marriage), 6th is a good house to receive

payments from business customers, also for Bank Loans.

Three is not bad except for studies, domestic happiness or

vehicles. 10th is good for new professions, to become famous

personality etc.

actually all are good.I dont see any of them as bad houses, neither

6,8 or 12 too I see as bad if taken as a birds eyeview.

(Except when I see my own horoscope my views would be different

naturally). Goo cannot co-exist without bad.

How will a person know the meaning of good if he has not seen bad, or

meaning of light if he has not seen darkness .

Remedial measures by Parashar maharaj are meant in entirety if we

read the passages for every Mahadsha and antar dasha, we will find

him giving results for placement of the Mahadash and antar lord vis a

visa to each other in various houses and also their effects good or

bad are definitely mentioned.

At the end of these passages he has given the remedies (In 4

shlokas, the last shloka containing the remedial measure),

so when he mentiones - to reduce the ill effects of this antar do

this or that, he has already taken the effects of placement of

planets in 3,6,10 and 11.

The Rishis of yore will never leave anything for us to search for

in air, at the same time neither truths would be blatantly revealed,

to fall in any persons hands where it would not be intended to.

 

regards,

bhaskar.

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Great note. I referred a very interesteing note by Dear Rishi on

another thread, around the remedial measures for 3/6/10/11. I am

still pondering, why Sage Parashar did not include them for his

remedial prescription.

>

> Whether we call it the need of modern yuga or our greater insight

into jyotish - but are our remedial patterns in line with sage

parashar (or say per jyotish objective). We all (including me) do

prescribe remedial measures (and do for ourselves too) - but Rishi's

question is still unanswered.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a

result but not the purpose.

>

> ************************************************

>

>

> >

> > bhaskar_jyotish

> > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:41:57 -0000

> >

> > Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I think that for a severe Balarishta Yoga, the prediction given

to a

> > new/little old born childs parents, would be fatilistic, and all

would

> > have to wait for the inevitable to happen, but in case

> > when you see a native with impending heart problems, or Shani sade

> > sathi approaching , the fatilistic approach would turn into a

saviour

> > for these natives and help and prepare them by way of

> > starting remedial measures, much before the incident would happen,

> > and thus reduce the impact.This is with reference to astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

> >>

> >> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar ji).

It

> > was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could change? -

So

> > I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will

happen

> > for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

> >>

> >> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered, why

> > not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma and

> > moksha kona?

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

> > these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

> > interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a

boat, a

> > result but not the purpose.

> >>

> >> ************************************************

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> gbp_kumar@

> >>> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

> >>>

> >>> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> >>>

> >>> Prafulla,

> >>> predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

> > astrology uses

> >>> fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

> > effect a

> >>> collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

> > king, don,

> >>> CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

> > evil time

> >>> we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

> > tragedy etc.

> >>> the Samohika karmaphala

> >>>

> >>> I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

> > sotme back

> >>>

> >>> in short again here

> >>> when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala hills a

> > bus

> >>> skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end of

the

> >>> ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more on

> > the

> >>> edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and was

> > pulled

> >>> out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

> > piligrims

> >>> in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

> > that he

> >>> will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man alike

> > and his

> >>> good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

> > later

> >>> became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far,

> > noow

> >>> called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one

more

> >>> accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

> > Jayednra

> >>> saraswathi in to its web.

> >>>

> >>> so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us can

> > destroy

> >>> us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future lives

if

> >>> anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good

and

> > bad

> >>> that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-85%

> > max rest

> >>> is god's will..

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >>>

> >>> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

> > (whether for

> >>> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial

measure?

> >>>

> >>> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it), in

> > my view

> >>> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet the

> >>> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

> > uncertain

> >>> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic patterns,

> > so that

> >>> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or say

> >>> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e. mukti

> > from the

> >>> life/death cycle).

> >>>

> >>> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of remedial

> > issues

> >>> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose of

> > jyotish.

> >>>

> >>> regards / Prafulla

> >>>

> >>> , "Bhaskar"

> >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >>> >

> >>> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> >>> > like to answer it., in short.

> >>> >

> >>> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever way

he

> > may

> >>> try.

> >>> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

> > from

> >>> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

> > foreknowledge of

> >>> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from

God,

> > I mean

> >>> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing. Just

> > like

> >>> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

> > lakhs of

> >>> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> > nothing is

> >>> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

> > from Him.

> >>> >

> >>> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

> > mouth our

> >>> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about that.

> >>> >

> >>> > regards,

> >>> > Bhaskar.

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> >>> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Ji

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Greetings

> >>> > >

> >>> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and

earthquake

> > before

> >>> > hand through astrologers.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 1) Prediction went right

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In this case many people can save their lives by acting

> > before

> >>> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to

kill

> > many

> >>> > people by these natural disasters ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose

their

> > faith

> >>> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-sword.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Any comments ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Jagdish

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> >>> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> >>> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> >>> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's

lunar

> >>> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

> > after the

> >>> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> >>> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

> > measurement in r-

> >>> > > scale is only 4....

> >>> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of my

> > friends,

> >>> > > who trust me....

> >>> > > Regards,

> >>> > > Gaurav

> >>> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >>> > >

> >>> > > , "Bhaskar"

> >>> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Namaste.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> > newspapers.

> >>> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how he

> >>> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

> > line.

> >>> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> >>> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is allowed

> >>> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation to

> > Earth),

> >>> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

> > him with

> >>> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments for

> >>> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> >>> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> > housewives

> >>> hand

> >>> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in another

> > way.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

> > Ganeshji

> >>> > taking

> >>> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

> > have been

> >>> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country, or

by

> >>> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from foreign

> >>> > countries,

> >>> > > or

> >>> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> > manner.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > regards,

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Bhaskar.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > regards,

> >>> > > > Bhaskar.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > , Prashant Kumar

G

> > B

> >>> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Dear Readers,

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> >>> > > Venketramani

> >>> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical factors

> > has 70%

> >>> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and another

> > the

> >>> > > last 2

> >>> > > > strong leftists.

> >>> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> > astrology

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> > predictions

> >>> > > lack

> >>> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> > predicitons on

> >>> > > may

> >>> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

> > collection.

> >>> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> >>> > > inprediciting

> >>> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's in

71

> > when

> >>> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a bumper

> >>> majority.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani about

> > the

> >>> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak on

> > 7th he

> >>> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

> > terrorist

> >>> > > attack

> >>> > > > will happen near a religious place

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in assak

> >>> > > location

> >>> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3 day

> > error

> >>> > > was

> >>> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend

millions

> >>> > > inshifting

> >>> > > > people

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they

happen

> > to the

> >>> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as

precautonary

> > too.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

> > happen

> >>> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth quake

r

> > there

> >>> > > > astrologically.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> >>> > > astologers

> >>> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway.

esp

> > the

> >>> > > left

> >>> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> >>> > >

> >>> > > > group but

> >>> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

> > mail or

> >>> > > phone.

> >>> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal

ID

> > also

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> >>> > > > > 09840051861

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

> > out.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

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Bhaskarji,

Actually the issue is not remedies for 3,6,10, 11 houses but

remedies revolving around these upachaya houses.

For, these are the houses which are more malleable compared to the

other houses. But rarely are remedies suggested involving the growth

houses.

regards

 

rishi

 

 

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Sir,

> about 3,6,10 and 11 I did not understand actually what remedial

> measures need to be mentioned. 11th itself is a remedy for bad

health.

> So is the 5th house considering the 6th for disease. 11th is a

very

> good house for the Lagna Lord to be placed in (Health and wealth

both

> plus succes plus daughters marriage), 6th is a good house to

receive

> payments from business customers, also for Bank Loans.

> Three is not bad except for studies, domestic happiness or

> vehicles. 10th is good for new professions, to become famous

> personality etc.

> actually all are good.I dont see any of them as bad houses,

neither

> 6,8 or 12 too I see as bad if taken as a birds eyeview.

> (Except when I see my own horoscope my views would be different

> naturally). Goo cannot co-exist without bad.

> How will a person know the meaning of good if he has not seen bad,

or

> meaning of light if he has not seen darkness .

> Remedial measures by Parashar maharaj are meant in entirety if we

> read the passages for every Mahadsha and antar dasha, we will find

> him giving results for placement of the Mahadash and antar lord

vis a

> visa to each other in various houses and also their effects good

or

> bad are definitely mentioned.

> At the end of these passages he has given the remedies (In 4

> shlokas, the last shloka containing the remedial measure),

> so when he mentiones - to reduce the ill effects of this antar do

> this or that, he has already taken the effects of placement of

> planets in 3,6,10 and 11.

> The Rishis of yore will never leave anything for us to search for

> in air, at the same time neither truths would be blatantly

revealed,

> to fall in any persons hands where it would not be intended to.

>

> regards,

> bhaskar.

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Great note. I referred a very interesteing note by Dear Rishi on

> another thread, around the remedial measures for 3/6/10/11. I am

> still pondering, why Sage Parashar did not include them for his

> remedial prescription.

> >

> > Whether we call it the need of modern yuga or our greater

insight

> into jyotish - but are our remedial patterns in line with sage

> parashar (or say per jyotish objective). We all (including me) do

> prescribe remedial measures (and do for ourselves too) - but

Rishi's

> question is still unanswered.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

> these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

> interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat,

a

> result but not the purpose.

> >

> > ************************************************

> >

> >

> > >

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:41:57 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > I think that for a severe Balarishta Yoga, the prediction

given

> to a

> > > new/little old born childs parents, would be fatilistic, and

all

> would

> > > have to wait for the inevitable to happen, but in case

> > > when you see a native with impending heart problems, or Shani

sade

> > > sathi approaching , the fatilistic approach would turn into a

> saviour

> > > for these natives and help and prepare them by way of

> > > starting remedial measures, much before the incident would

happen,

> > > and thus reduce the impact.This is with reference to astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

> > >>

> > >> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar

ji).

> It

> > > was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could

change? -

> So

> > > I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will

> happen

> > > for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

> > >>

> > >> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered,

why

> > > not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma

and

> > > moksha kona?

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we

do

> > > these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

> > > interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a

> boat, a

> > > result but not the purpose.

> > >>

> > >> ************************************************

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> gbp_kumar@

> > >>> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> > >>>

> > >>> Prafulla,

> > >>> predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

> > > astrology uses

> > >>> fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

> > > effect a

> > >>> collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

> > > king, don,

> > >>> CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

> > > evil time

> > >>> we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

> > > tragedy etc.

> > >>> the Samohika karmaphala

> > >>>

> > >>> I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

> > > sotme back

> > >>>

> > >>> in short again here

> > >>> when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala

hills a

> > > bus

> > >>> skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end

of

> the

> > >>> ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus

more on

> > > the

> > >>> edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and

was

> > > pulled

> > >>> out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

> > > piligrims

> > >>> in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

> > > that he

> > >>> will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man

alike

> > > and his

> > >>> good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

> > > later

> > >>> became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so

far,

> > > noow

> > >>> called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one

> more

> > >>> accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

> > > Jayednra

> > >>> saraswathi in to its web.

> > >>>

> > >>> so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us

can

> > > destroy

> > >>> us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future

lives

> if

> > >>> anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor

good

> and

> > > bad

> > >>> that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-

85%

> > > max rest

> > >>> is god's will..

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >>>

> > >>> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

> > > (whether for

> > >>> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial

> measure?

> > >>>

> > >>> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about

it), in

> > > my view

> > >>> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet

the

> > >>> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

> > > uncertain

> > >>> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic

patterns,

> > > so that

> > >>> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or

say

> > >>> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e.

mukti

> > > from the

> > >>> life/death cycle).

> > >>>

> > >>> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of

remedial

> > > issues

> > >>> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic

purpose of

> > > jyotish.

> > >>>

> > >>> regards / Prafulla

> > >>>

> > >>> , "Bhaskar"

> > >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Shri Jagdishji,

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> > >>> > like to answer it., in short.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever

way

> he

> > > may

> > >>> try.

> > >>> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be

cleared

> > > from

> > >>> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

> > > foreknowledge of

> > >>> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from

> God,

> > > I mean

> > >>> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing.

Just

> > > like

> > >>> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

> > > lakhs of

> > >>> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> > > nothing is

> > >>> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is

unaccessible

> > > from Him.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

> > > mouth our

> > >>> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about

that.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > regards,

> > >>> > Bhaskar.

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> > , Prathamesn

Chawan

> > >>> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Dear Ji

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Greetings

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and

> earthquake

> > > before

> > >>> > hand through astrologers.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > 1) Prediction went right

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > In this case many people can save their lives by

acting

> > > before

> > >>> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to

> kill

> > > many

> > >>> > people by these natural disasters ?

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose

> their

> > > faith

> > >>> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-

sword.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Any comments ?

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Jagdish

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> > >>> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > >>> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> > >>> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's

> lunar

> > >>> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

> > > after the

> > >>> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> > >>> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

> > > measurement in r-

> > >>> > > scale is only 4....

> > >>> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of

my

> > > friends,

> > >>> > > who trust me....

> > >>> > > Regards,

> > >>> > > Gaurav

> > >>> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > >>> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > Namaste.

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> > > newspapers.

> > >>> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how

he

> > >>> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

> > > line.

> > >>> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> > >>> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is

allowed

> > >>> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in

relation to

> > > Earth),

> > >>> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot

equate

> > > him with

> > >>> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments

for

> > >>> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is

different

> > >>> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> > > housewives

> > >>> hand

> > >>> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in

another

> > > way.

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

> > > Ganeshji

> > >>> > taking

> > >>> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

> > > have been

> > >>> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country,

or

> by

> > >>> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from

foreign

> > >>> > countries,

> > >>> > > or

> > >>> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in

this

> > > manner.

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > regards,

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > Bhaskar.

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > regards,

> > >>> > > > Bhaskar.

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > >

> > >>> > > > , Prashant

Kumar

> G

> > > B

> > >>> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > Dear Readers,

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> > >>> > > Venketramani

> > >>> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical

factors

> > > has 70%

> > >>> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and

another

> > > the

> > >>> > > last 2

> > >>> > > > strong leftists.

> > >>> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> > > astrology

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> > > predictions

> > >>> > > lack

> > >>> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> > > predicitons on

> > >>> > > may

> > >>> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

> > > collection.

> > >>> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> > >>> > > inprediciting

> > >>> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's

in

> 71

> > > when

> > >>> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a

bumper

> > >>> majority.

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani

about

> > > the

> > >>> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak

on

> > > 7th he

> > >>> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

> > > terrorist

> > >>> > > attack

> > >>> > > > will happen near a religious place

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in

assak

> > >>> > > location

> > >>> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3

day

> > > error

> > >>> > > was

> > >>> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend

> millions

> > >>> > > inshifting

> > >>> > > > people

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they

> happen

> > > to the

> > >>> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as

> precautonary

> > > too.

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast

to

> > > happen

> > >>> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth

quake

> r

> > > there

> > >>> > > > astrologically.

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time

for

> > >>> > > astologers

> > >>> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there

anyway.

> esp

> > > the

> > >>> > > left

> > >>> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > > group but

> > >>> > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

> > > mail or

> > >>> > > phone.

> > >>> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay

Pal

> ID

> > > also

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > >>> > > > > 09840051861

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com.

Check it

> > > out.

> > >>> > > > >

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removed]

> > >>> > > > >

> > >>> > > >

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