Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Dear Chandrashekar, Namaste!!! I'm just a bit curious to know...QUESTIONS: Do you personally own a genuine Valampuri? More than one? Are you a Valampuri dealer? It's a harmless question. But I'd like to know the facts. For example I'll tell you, I own ONE Valampuri and I am NOT a Valampuri dealer. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. Sorry for late reply. I have made some interesting observations on different types of sinistral varieties of Turbinella. I am also going to publish a new species under the genus Turbinella. I will definitely send you my research details when published. It may take some time. > > I am aware of the personal attacks made on me earlier on this forum under a fake ID. However, I am not worried. The attack was made by 'somebody' in the trade who has double standards. I am in the profession of a research scientist for the last more than 30 years. I have thoroughly studied different types of Rudraksha botanically. I have posted my personal opinions on Rudraksha based on scientific facts on different forums. I do not know why somebody should get disturbed on it. I purchase my beads from Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada of 'Neparudraksha' who is a genuine Rudraksha dealer from Nepal. Shri.Mukunda is also a supplier to many Rudraksha websites in India. > > I too do business to some extent. However, I am always keen to talk about scientific facts whether it is about Rudraksha or Valampuri. Being natural, there is much morphological variation in both of these 'Sacred Objects'. Whether somebody likes it or not ? Whether it suits or not for somebody's business or even for my business ? I do not bother. I do business but I do not make high claims. Many rudraksha websites add a window 'Disclaimer' in their websites. Though, regularly I wear Rudraksha, every day I have to take a tablet to control my BP and marine fish thrice a week in my diet to keep my heart and arteries healthy. Finally, everybody has his own opinion and belief. It takes time, however, facts are proved one day or the other. In future, I will continue to write on this forum about my little knowledge in the field of Rudraksha and Valampuri. > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > I was mad only to see real Valampuri eight years before. I have now good master collection with me. I am always positive to discuss my experience in characterisation of types of Valampuries. It is a learning process for me also. > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Namaste!!! It sounds funny for a person to say, "I'm not guru", and > then go on to list "I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship." ---That sounds like a > guru to me. > > But you must be aware that there are people who have spoken and > written against you and accuse you of being a phony. On the wall of my > showroom are all my GIA Diplomas. I would expect the same of other > qualified people. > > Personally I believe you, and appreciate your input. I look forward to > your research paper on Valampuri. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > I am not a Guru of Mr. Pandit S. P. Tata. Basically, I am a > biotechnologist. I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship. > > > > I have a US Patent No. 5750401 granted by the US Patent Office on > 12 May 1998. The patent is in the field of bamboo biotechnology. I > also have research papers in the field of Mycology and Plant > biotechnology. > > > > My present research interest is sinistral varieties under the > genus Turbinella. This is a personal self financed research. I will > be publishing few research papers on this subject and I am in touch > with malacologists from abroad. > > > > The Valampuri weighing 45 gms. displayed on Shri. Tata's website > does not belong to me. > > > > I am ready to show my master collection of Valampuries, if you > have any friend or representative in India. > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > Dear Pandit Tata, > > > > Namaste!!! Using your logic I can charge for diamonds or gems ANY > > price I like, even one billion dollors. Yes, you have the right to > > OVER CHARGE, but the clients have the right to say NO! Although there > > is a sucker born every minute. > > > > I'm still wondering what those BIG UGLY SCARS ARE ON BOTH your > > polished shanks? Is that glue? It looks like glue or resin. > > > > When you started in this group you had been selling lightning whelk as > > Lakshmi Shank, but now you have become over-night expert!? > > > > Why not take the MIDDLE PATH, not too expensive, not too cheap. But if > > Chandrashekar (your guru) is over charging, and you are just a broker, > > then I guess you have nothing to lose. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "Pt Siva Prasad Tata" > > <sptata@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Richardji, > > > Re the prices: Last year the price of my flat was Rs.22 lacks. Now > it is > > > Rs.46 lacks. 8 years ago a fellow offered me a genuine Ekamukhi > > Rudraksha > > > for 11000 rupees and I dint buy. Today it is 7.5 lacks. I am not an > > > economist but I guess the market demand and supply forces have > > something to > > > do with it. No one likes increasing the prices as it is not easy to > > sell at > > > higher prices. > > > > > > Regarding ""on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > RUNNING THE > > > LENGTH of both of your samples???"" – I am surprised you find it > ugly. I > > > find it a rare beautiful design – of the last circle on the conch head > > > curving down to the bottom – exactly like in the picture of the > > Mohenjo-daro > > > & Harappa excavations as you can see here > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/shankhaworshipinharappa.htm > > > A very interesting repeat after 3000 years right? > > > > > > Finally, I am most interested to know how such a blasphemously > insulting > > > remark against a forum member was allowed to be posted in a moderator > > > controlled forum!! > > > Regards > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/06, Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pt Tata and Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I don't know about the arguement, BUT, I do know about > > > > prices of Lakshmi Shank. I got small 40 gram Lakshmi Shank and > it cost > > > > Rs. 3,000 per gram (delivered in Bangkok). A similar > > > > shank is > > > > availab on Tata's site for over Rs. 11,000 per gram. I don't quite > > > > understand the price > > > > difference, > > > > unless someone, or too many people are taking profit. Last I heard > > > > John Ravi was > > > > increasing his price to a huge Rs. 9,600 per gram. In the > beginning of > > > > this > > > > forum we were > > > > told that Rs. 1,000 per gram was the right price. So, why the BIG > > > > INCREASE??? Is this gouging? I paid a LOT for mine according to the > > > > members of this Group in the start of this group. But now you have a > > > > shank just like mine (except mine is better quality) BUT the > price is > > > > more than I paid by 4 fold!?? > > > > > > > > Also, on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR RUNNING THE > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples??? > > > > > > > > I'm interested, VERY !!! ??? > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > With best wishes > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > H-5/3, 3rd Floor > > > Malviya Nagar > > > New Delhi - 110017 > > > Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, > Mobile: > > > 9911119235. > > > Email to: sptata@ > > > Website: www.astrojyoti.com > > > You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: > > > Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. > > > MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Respected Shri. Richard ji, Thank you very much for your mail. Yes, I own genuine Valampuri. The Gem Quality Valampuri weighing 270 gms.posted recently on the forum is also owned by me. I can supply genuine Valampuries. I supply Valampuries with X-Ray image. I personally took interest to develop X-Ray protocol for Valampuries to prove its authenticity. If you remember, I am the first person to talk about X-ray imaging to prove authenticity of Valampuries. I also insist that my customer should himself take the X-Ray image from the X-Ray unit in his town. I therefore give my customer, technical details for a perticular X-Ray. I will discuss Valampuri X-ray and its interpretation on this forum shortly. Thanking you and with personal regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Chandrashekar, Namaste!!! I'm just a bit curious to know...QUESTIONS: Do you personally own a genuine Valampuri? More than one? Are you a Valampuri dealer? It's a harmless question. But I'd like to know the facts. For example I'll tell you, I own ONE Valampuri and I am NOT a Valampuri dealer. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. Sorry for late reply. I have made some interesting observations on different types of sinistral varieties of Turbinella. I am also going to publish a new species under the genus Turbinella. I will definitely send you my research details when published. It may take some time. > > I am aware of the personal attacks made on me earlier on this forum under a fake ID. However, I am not worried. The attack was made by 'somebody' in the trade who has double standards. I am in the profession of a research scientist for the last more than 30 years. I have thoroughly studied different types of Rudraksha botanically. I have posted my personal opinions on Rudraksha based on scientific facts on different forums. I do not know why somebody should get disturbed on it. I purchase my beads from Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada of 'Neparudraksha' who is a genuine Rudraksha dealer from Nepal. Shri.Mukunda is also a supplier to many Rudraksha websites in India. > > I too do business to some extent. However, I am always keen to talk about scientific facts whether it is about Rudraksha or Valampuri. Being natural, there is much morphological variation in both of these 'Sacred Objects'. Whether somebody likes it or not ? Whether it suits or not for somebody's business or even for my business ? I do not bother. I do business but I do not make high claims. Many rudraksha websites add a window 'Disclaimer' in their websites. Though, regularly I wear Rudraksha, every day I have to take a tablet to control my BP and marine fish thrice a week in my diet to keep my heart and arteries healthy. Finally, everybody has his own opinion and belief. It takes time, however, facts are proved one day or the other. In future, I will continue to write on this forum about my little knowledge in the field of Rudraksha and Valampuri. > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > I was mad only to see real Valampuri eight years before. I have now good master collection with me. I am always positive to discuss my experience in characterisation of types of Valampuries. It is a learning process for me also. > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Namaste!!! It sounds funny for a person to say, "I'm not guru", and > then go on to list "I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship." ---That sounds like a > guru to me. > > But you must be aware that there are people who have spoken and > written against you and accuse you of being a phony. On the wall of my > showroom are all my GIA Diplomas. I would expect the same of other > qualified people. > > Personally I believe you, and appreciate your input. I look forward to > your research paper on Valampuri. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > I am not a Guru of Mr. Pandit S. P. Tata. Basically, I am a > biotechnologist. I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship. > > > > I have a US Patent No. 5750401 granted by the US Patent Office on > 12 May 1998. The patent is in the field of bamboo biotechnology. I > also have research papers in the field of Mycology and Plant > biotechnology. > > > > My present research interest is sinistral varieties under the > genus Turbinella. This is a personal self financed research. I will > be publishing few research papers on this subject and I am in touch > with malacologists from abroad. > > > > The Valampuri weighing 45 gms. displayed on Shri. Tata's website > does not belong to me. > > > > I am ready to show my master collection of Valampuries, if you > have any friend or representative in India. > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > Dear Pandit Tata, > > > > Namaste!!! Using your logic I can charge for diamonds or gems ANY > > price I like, even one billion dollors. Yes, you have the right to > > OVER CHARGE, but the clients have the right to say NO! Although there > > is a sucker born every minute. > > > > I'm still wondering what those BIG UGLY SCARS ARE ON BOTH your > > polished shanks? Is that glue? It looks like glue or resin. > > > > When you started in this group you had been selling lightning whelk as > > Lakshmi Shank, but now you have become over-night expert!? > > > > Why not take the MIDDLE PATH, not too expensive, not too cheap. But if > > Chandrashekar (your guru) is over charging, and you are just a broker, > > then I guess you have nothing to lose. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "Pt Siva Prasad Tata" > > <sptata@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Richardji, > > > Re the prices: Last year the price of my flat was Rs.22 lacks. Now > it is > > > Rs.46 lacks. 8 years ago a fellow offered me a genuine Ekamukhi > > Rudraksha > > > for 11000 rupees and I dint buy. Today it is 7.5 lacks. I am not an > > > economist but I guess the market demand and supply forces have > > something to > > > do with it. No one likes increasing the prices as it is not easy to > > sell at > > > higher prices. > > > > > > Regarding ""on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > RUNNING THE > > > LENGTH of both of your samples???"" – I am surprised you find it > ugly. I > > > find it a rare beautiful design – of the last circle on the conch head > > > curving down to the bottom – exactly like in the picture of the > > Mohenjo-daro > > > & Harappa excavations as you can see here > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/shankhaworshipinharappa.htm > > > A very interesting repeat after 3000 years right? > > > > > > Finally, I am most interested to know how such a blasphemously > insulting > > > remark against a forum member was allowed to be posted in a moderator > > > controlled forum!! > > > Regards > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/06, Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pt Tata and Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I don't know about the arguement, BUT, I do know about > > > > prices of Lakshmi Shank. I got small 40 gram Lakshmi Shank and > it cost > > > > Rs. 3,000 per gram (delivered in Bangkok). A similar > > > > shank is > > > > availab on Tata's site for over Rs. 11,000 per gram. I don't quite > > > > understand the price > > > > difference, > > > > unless someone, or too many people are taking profit. Last I heard > > > > John Ravi was > > > > increasing his price to a huge Rs. 9,600 per gram. In the > beginning of > > > > this > > > > forum we were > > > > told that Rs. 1,000 per gram was the right price. So, why the BIG > > > > INCREASE??? Is this gouging? I paid a LOT for mine according to the > > > > members of this Group in the start of this group. But now you have a > > > > shank just like mine (except mine is better quality) BUT the > price is > > > > more than I paid by 4 fold!?? > > > > > > > > Also, on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR RUNNING THE > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples??? > > > > > > > > I'm interested, VERY !!! ??? > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > With best wishes > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > H-5/3, 3rd Floor > > > Malviya Nagar > > > New Delhi - 110017 > > > Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, > Mobile: > > > 9911119235. > > > Email to: sptata@ > > > Website: www.astrojyoti.com > > > You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: > > > Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. > > > MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 So the answer is yes, he is a dealer as well. - chandrashekhar phadke sacred-objects Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:14 PM Re: Re: Valampuri. Thanks Sri Richard ji. Respected Shri. Richard ji, Thank you very much for your mail. Yes, I own genuine Valampuri. The Gem Quality Valampuri weighing 270 gms.posted recently on the forum is also owned by me. I can supply genuine Valampuries. I supply Valampuries with X-Ray image. I personally took interest to develop X-Ray protocol for Valampuries to prove its authenticity. If you remember, I am the first person to talk about X-ray imaging to prove authenticity of Valampuries. I also insist that my customer should himself take the X-Ray image from the X-Ray unit in his town. I therefore give my customer, technical details for a perticular X-Ray. I will discuss Valampuri X-ray and its interpretation on this forum shortly. Thanking you and with personal regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Chandrashekar, Namaste!!! I'm just a bit curious to know...QUESTIONS: Do you personally own a genuine Valampuri? More than one? Are you a Valampuri dealer? It's a harmless question. But I'd like to know the facts. For example I'll tell you, I own ONE Valampuri and I am NOT a Valampuri dealer. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. Sorry for late reply. I have made some interesting observations on different types of sinistral varieties of Turbinella. I am also going to publish a new species under the genus Turbinella. I will definitely send you my research details when published. It may take some time. > > I am aware of the personal attacks made on me earlier on this forum under a fake ID. However, I am not worried. The attack was made by 'somebody' in the trade who has double standards. I am in the profession of a research scientist for the last more than 30 years. I have thoroughly studied different types of Rudraksha botanically. I have posted my personal opinions on Rudraksha based on scientific facts on different forums. I do not know why somebody should get disturbed on it. I purchase my beads from Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada of 'Neparudraksha' who is a genuine Rudraksha dealer from Nepal. Shri.Mukunda is also a supplier to many Rudraksha websites in India. > > I too do business to some extent. However, I am always keen to talk about scientific facts whether it is about Rudraksha or Valampuri. Being natural, there is much morphological variation in both of these 'Sacred Objects'. Whether somebody likes it or not ? Whether it suits or not for somebody's business or even for my business ? I do not bother. I do business but I do not make high claims. Many rudraksha websites add a window 'Disclaimer' in their websites. Though, regularly I wear Rudraksha, every day I have to take a tablet to control my BP and marine fish thrice a week in my diet to keep my heart and arteries healthy. Finally, everybody has his own opinion and belief. It takes time, however, facts are proved one day or the other. In future, I will continue to write on this forum about my little knowledge in the field of Rudraksha and Valampuri.. > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > I was mad only to see real Valampuri eight years before. I have now good master collection with me. I am always positive to discuss my experience in characterisation of types of Valampuries. It is a learning process for me also. > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Namaste!!! It sounds funny for a person to say, "I'm not guru", and > then go on to list "I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship." ---That sounds like a > guru to me. > > But you must be aware that there are people who have spoken and > written against you and accuse you of being a phony. On the wall of my > showroom are all my GIA Diplomas. I would expect the same of other > qualified people. > > Personally I believe you, and appreciate your input. I look forward to > your research paper on Valampuri. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > I am not a Guru of Mr. Pandit S. P. Tata. Basically, I am a > biotechnologist. I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship. > > > > I have a US Patent No. 5750401 granted by the US Patent Office on > 12 May 1998. The patent is in the field of bamboo biotechnology. I > also have research papers in the field of Mycology and Plant > biotechnology. > > > > My present research interest is sinistral varieties under the > genus Turbinella. This is a personal self financed research. I will > be publishing few research papers on this subject and I am in touch > with malacologists from abroad. > > > > The Valampuri weighing 45 gms. displayed on Shri. Tata's website > does not belong to me. > > > > I am ready to show my master collection of Valampuries, if you > have any friend or representative in India. > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > Dear Pandit Tata, > > > > Namaste!!! Using your logic I can charge for diamonds or gems ANY > > price I like, even one billion dollors. Yes, you have the right to > > OVER CHARGE, but the clients have the right to say NO! Although there > > is a sucker born every minute. > > > > I'm still wondering what those BIG UGLY SCARS ARE ON BOTH your > > polished shanks? Is that glue? It looks like glue or resin. > > > > When you started in this group you had been selling lightning whelk as > > Lakshmi Shank, but now you have become over-night expert!? > > > > Why not take the MIDDLE PATH, not too expensive, not too cheap. But if > > Chandrashekar (your guru) is over charging, and you are just a broker, > > then I guess you have nothing to lose. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "Pt Siva Prasad Tata" > > <sptata@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Richardji, > > > Re the prices: Last year the price of my flat was Rs.22 lacks. Now > it is > > > Rs.46 lacks. 8 years ago a fellow offered me a genuine Ekamukhi > > Rudraksha > > > for 11000 rupees and I dint buy. Today it is 7.5 lacks. I am not an > > > economist but I guess the market demand and supply forces have > > something to > > > do with it. No one likes increasing the prices as it is not easy to > > sell at > > > higher prices. > > > > > > Regarding ""on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > RUNNING THE > > > LENGTH of both of your samples???"" - I am surprised you find it > ugly. I > > > find it a rare beautiful design - of the last circle on the conch head > > > curving down to the bottom - exactly like in the picture of the > > Mohenjo-daro > > > & Harappa excavations as you can see here > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/shankhaworshipinharappa.htm > > > A very interesting repeat after 3000 years right? > > > > > > Finally, I am most interested to know how such a blasphemously > insulting > > > remark against a forum member was allowed to be posted in a moderator > > > controlled forum!! > > > Regards > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/06, Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pt Tata and Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I don't know about the arguement, BUT, I do know about > > > > prices of Lakshmi Shank. I got small 40 gram Lakshmi Shank and > it cost > > > > Rs. 3,000 per gram (delivered in Bangkok). A similar > > > > shank is > > > > availab on Tata's site for over Rs. 11,000 per gram. I don't quite > > > > understand the price > > > > difference, > > > > unless someone, or too many people are taking profit. Last I heard > > > > John Ravi was > > > > increasing his price to a huge Rs. 9,600 per gram. In the > beginning of > > > > this > > > > forum we were > > > > told that Rs. 1,000 per gram was the right price. So, why the BIG > > > > INCREASE??? Is this gouging? I paid a LOT for mine according to the > > > > members of this Group in the start of this group. But now you have a > > > > shank just like mine (except mine is better quality) BUT the > price is > > > > more than I paid by 4 fold!?? > > > > > > > > Also, on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR RUNNING THE > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples??? > > > > > > > > I'm interested, VERY !!! ??? > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > With best wishes > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > H-5/3, 3rd Floor > > > Malviya Nagar > > > New Delhi - 110017 > > > Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, > Mobile: > > > 9911119235. > > > Email to: sptata@ > > > Website: www.astrojyoti.com > > > You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: > > > Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. > > > MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Dear Chandrashekar, Namaste!!! Thanks for that info. I'm creating a list of real Valampuri dealers, who actually OWN their products. A "Direct Source" list. So now your name will be in that list too. People should avoid the "brokers" because they invest no money and inflate the price... so what is their use? There is seller, and there is buyer... what is use of middlemen? In my gem business I must invest a lot of money to maintain stock; and that is borrowed from banks at interest. So I deserve to make a profit. But middlemen invest nothing, and needlessly increase the price. Why not do your sales directly!? That is better than sending photos around to all the middlemen, who invest nothing and increase the price. Why not a straight-forward business? There is no need to hide behind middlemen,...or is there? Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. Yes, I own genuine Valampuri. The Gem Quality Valampuri weighing 270 gms.posted recently on the forum is also owned by me. I can supply genuine Valampuries. I supply Valampuries with X-Ray image. I personally took interest to develop X-Ray protocol for Valampuries to prove its authenticity. If you remember, I am the first person to talk about X-ray imaging to prove authenticity of Valampuries. I also insist that my customer should himself take the X-Ray image from the X-Ray unit in his town. I therefore give my customer, technical details for a perticular X-Ray. I will discuss Valampuri X-ray and its interpretation on this forum shortly. > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Namaste!!! I'm just a bit curious to know...QUESTIONS: Do you > personally own a genuine Valampuri? More than one? Are you a Valampuri dealer? > > It's a harmless question. But I'd like to know the facts. For example I'll tell you, I own ONE Valampuri and I am NOT a Valampuri dealer. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. Sorry for late reply. I have > made some interesting observations on different types of sinistral > varieties of Turbinella. I am also going to publish a new species > under the genus Turbinella. I will definitely send you my research > details when published. It may take some time. > > > > I am aware of the personal attacks made on me earlier on this > forum under a fake ID. However, I am not worried. The attack was > made by 'somebody' in the trade who has double standards. I am in the > profession of a research scientist for the last more than 30 years. I > have thoroughly studied different types of Rudraksha botanically. I > have posted my personal opinions on Rudraksha based on scientific > facts on different forums. I do not know why somebody should get > disturbed on it. I purchase my beads from Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada of > 'Neparudraksha' who is a genuine Rudraksha dealer from Nepal. > Shri.Mukunda is also a supplier to many Rudraksha websites in India. > > > > I too do business to some extent. However, I am always keen to > talk about scientific facts whether it is about Rudraksha or > Valampuri. Being natural, there is much morphological variation in > both of these 'Sacred Objects'. Whether somebody likes it or not ? > Whether it suits or not for somebody's business or even for my > business ? I do not bother. I do business but I do not make high > claims. Many rudraksha websites add a window 'Disclaimer' in their > websites. Though, regularly I wear Rudraksha, every day I have to > take a tablet to control my BP and marine fish thrice a week in my > diet to keep my heart and arteries healthy. Finally, everybody has > his own opinion and belief. It takes time, however, facts are proved > one day or the other. In future, I will continue to write on this > forum about my little knowledge in the field of Rudraksha and Valampuri. > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was mad only to see real Valampuri eight years before. I have > now good master collection with me. I am always positive to discuss > my experience in characterisation of types of Valampuries. It is a > learning process for me also. > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > Namaste!!! It sounds funny for a person to say, "I'm not guru", and > > then go on to list "I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship." ---That sounds like a > > guru to me. > > > > But you must be aware that there are people who have spoken and > > written against you and accuse you of being a phony. On the wall of my > > showroom are all my GIA Diplomas. I would expect the same of other > > qualified people. > > > > Personally I believe you, and appreciate your input. I look forward to > > your research paper on Valampuri. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > > > I am not a Guru of Mr. Pandit S. P. Tata. Basically, I am a > > biotechnologist. I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship. > > > > > > I have a US Patent No. 5750401 granted by the US Patent Office on > > 12 May 1998. The patent is in the field of bamboo biotechnology. I > > also have research papers in the field of Mycology and Plant > > biotechnology. > > > > > > My present research interest is sinistral varieties under the > > genus Turbinella. This is a personal self financed research. I will > > be publishing few research papers on this subject and I am in touch > > with malacologists from abroad. > > > > > > The Valampuri weighing 45 gms. displayed on Shri. Tata's website > > does not belong to me. > > > > > > I am ready to show my master collection of Valampuries, if you > > have any friend or representative in India. > > > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > Dear Pandit Tata, > > > > > > Namaste!!! Using your logic I can charge for diamonds or gems ANY > > > price I like, even one billion dollors. Yes, you have the right to > > > OVER CHARGE, but the clients have the right to say NO! Although there > > > is a sucker born every minute. > > > > > > I'm still wondering what those BIG UGLY SCARS ARE ON BOTH your > > > polished shanks? Is that glue? It looks like glue or resin. > > > > > > When you started in this group you had been selling lightning whelk as > > > Lakshmi Shank, but now you have become over-night expert!? > > > > > > Why not take the MIDDLE PATH, not too expensive, not too cheap. But if > > > Chandrashekar (your guru) is over charging, and you are just a broker, > > > then I guess you have nothing to lose. > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Pt Siva Prasad Tata" > > > <sptata@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Richardji, > > > > Re the prices: Last year the price of my flat was Rs.22 lacks. Now > > it is > > > > Rs.46 lacks. 8 years ago a fellow offered me a genuine Ekamukhi > > > Rudraksha > > > > for 11000 rupees and I dint buy. Today it is 7.5 lacks. I am not an > > > > economist but I guess the market demand and supply forces have > > > something to > > > > do with it. No one likes increasing the prices as it is not easy to > > > sell at > > > > higher prices. > > > > > > > > Regarding ""on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > > RUNNING THE > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples???"" – I am surprised you find it > > ugly. I > > > > find it a rare beautiful design – of the last circle on the > conch head > > > > curving down to the bottom – exactly like in the picture of the > > > Mohenjo-daro > > > > & Harappa excavations as you can see here > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/shankhaworshipinharappa.htm > > > > A very interesting repeat after 3000 years right? > > > > > > > > Finally, I am most interested to know how such a blasphemously > > insulting > > > > remark against a forum member was allowed to be posted in a > moderator > > > > controlled forum!! > > > > Regards > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/06, Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pt Tata and Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I don't know about the arguement, BUT, I do know about > > > > > prices of Lakshmi Shank. I got small 40 gram Lakshmi Shank and > > it cost > > > > > Rs. 3,000 per gram (delivered in Bangkok). A similar > > > > > shank is > > > > > availab on Tata's site for over Rs. 11,000 per gram. I don't quite > > > > > understand the price > > > > > difference, > > > > > unless someone, or too many people are taking profit. Last I heard > > > > > John Ravi was > > > > > increasing his price to a huge Rs. 9,600 per gram. In the > > beginning of > > > > > this > > > > > forum we were > > > > > told that Rs. 1,000 per gram was the right price. So, why the BIG > > > > > INCREASE??? Is this gouging? I paid a LOT for mine according > to the > > > > > members of this Group in the start of this group. But now you > have a > > > > > shank just like mine (except mine is better quality) BUT the > > price is > > > > > more than I paid by 4 fold!?? > > > > > > > > > > Also, on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > RUNNING THE > > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples??? > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested, VERY !!! ??? > > > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > > Richard > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > With best wishes > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > H-5/3, 3rd Floor > > > > Malviya Nagar > > > > New Delhi - 110017 > > > > Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, > > Mobile: > > > > 9911119235. > > > > Email to: sptata@ > > > > Website: www.astrojyoti.com > > > > You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: > > > > Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. > > > > MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > > 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Respected Shri. Richard ji, Thank you very much for including my name in the 'Direct Source' list for Valampuries. I will definitely supply Valampuries in a comfortable price to the group members and others approaching me. I will issue the authenticity certificate and a copy of the X-ray taken with the necessary technical details used to take X-ray. The Valampuries supplied by me can be tested at any reputed 'Malacological Laboratory' word wide requesting the concerned scientists to take X-Ray image of the conch supplied in addtition to the visual observations. I have sent few of the pictures of my collectiion to many direct customers approached to me and also to website owners since many traders established in their business have their own traditional customers. Thanking you and with personal regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Chandrashekar, Namaste!!! Thanks for that info. I'm creating a list of real Valampuri dealers, who actually OWN their products. A "Direct Source" list. So now your name will be in that list too. People should avoid the "brokers" because they invest no money and inflate the price... so what is their use? There is seller, and there is buyer... what is use of middlemen? In my gem business I must invest a lot of money to maintain stock; and that is borrowed from banks at interest. So I deserve to make a profit. But middlemen invest nothing, and needlessly increase the price. Why not do your sales directly!? That is better than sending photos around to all the middlemen, who invest nothing and increase the price. Why not a straight-forward business? There is no need to hide behind middlemen,...or is there? Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. Yes, I own genuine Valampuri. The Gem Quality Valampuri weighing 270 gms.posted recently on the forum is also owned by me. I can supply genuine Valampuries. I supply Valampuries with X-Ray image. I personally took interest to develop X-Ray protocol for Valampuries to prove its authenticity. If you remember, I am the first person to talk about X-ray imaging to prove authenticity of Valampuries. I also insist that my customer should himself take the X-Ray image from the X-Ray unit in his town. I therefore give my customer, technical details for a perticular X-Ray. I will discuss Valampuri X-ray and its interpretation on this forum shortly. > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Namaste!!! I'm just a bit curious to know...QUESTIONS: Do you > personally own a genuine Valampuri? More than one? Are you a Valampuri dealer? > > It's a harmless question. But I'd like to know the facts. For example I'll tell you, I own ONE Valampuri and I am NOT a Valampuri dealer. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. Sorry for late reply. I have > made some interesting observations on different types of sinistral > varieties of Turbinella. I am also going to publish a new species > under the genus Turbinella. I will definitely send you my research > details when published. It may take some time. > > > > I am aware of the personal attacks made on me earlier on this > forum under a fake ID. However, I am not worried. The attack was > made by 'somebody' in the trade who has double standards. I am in the > profession of a research scientist for the last more than 30 years. I > have thoroughly studied different types of Rudraksha botanically. I > have posted my personal opinions on Rudraksha based on scientific > facts on different forums. I do not know why somebody should get > disturbed on it. I purchase my beads from Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada of > 'Neparudraksha' who is a genuine Rudraksha dealer from Nepal. > Shri.Mukunda is also a supplier to many Rudraksha websites in India. > > > > I too do business to some extent. However, I am always keen to > talk about scientific facts whether it is about Rudraksha or > Valampuri. Being natural, there is much morphological variation in > both of these 'Sacred Objects'. Whether somebody likes it or not ? > Whether it suits or not for somebody's business or even for my > business ? I do not bother. I do business but I do not make high > claims. Many rudraksha websites add a window 'Disclaimer' in their > websites. Though, regularly I wear Rudraksha, every day I have to > take a tablet to control my BP and marine fish thrice a week in my > diet to keep my heart and arteries healthy. Finally, everybody has > his own opinion and belief. It takes time, however, facts are proved > one day or the other. In future, I will continue to write on this > forum about my little knowledge in the field of Rudraksha and Valampuri. > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was mad only to see real Valampuri eight years before. I have > now good master collection with me. I am always positive to discuss > my experience in characterisation of types of Valampuries. It is a > learning process for me also. > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > Namaste!!! It sounds funny for a person to say, "I'm not guru", and > > then go on to list "I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship." ---That sounds like a > > guru to me. > > > > But you must be aware that there are people who have spoken and > > written against you and accuse you of being a phony. On the wall of my > > showroom are all my GIA Diplomas. I would expect the same of other > > qualified people. > > > > Personally I believe you, and appreciate your input. I look forward to > > your research paper on Valampuri. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > > > I am not a Guru of Mr. Pandit S. P. Tata. Basically, I am a > > biotechnologist. I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship. > > > > > > I have a US Patent No. 5750401 granted by the US Patent Office on > > 12 May 1998. The patent is in the field of bamboo biotechnology. I > > also have research papers in the field of Mycology and Plant > > biotechnology. > > > > > > My present research interest is sinistral varieties under the > > genus Turbinella. This is a personal self financed research. I will > > be publishing few research papers on this subject and I am in touch > > with malacologists from abroad. > > > > > > The Valampuri weighing 45 gms. displayed on Shri. Tata's website > > does not belong to me. > > > > > > I am ready to show my master collection of Valampuries, if you > > have any friend or representative in India. > > > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > Dear Pandit Tata, > > > > > > Namaste!!! Using your logic I can charge for diamonds or gems ANY > > > price I like, even one billion dollors. Yes, you have the right to > > > OVER CHARGE, but the clients have the right to say NO! Although there > > > is a sucker born every minute. > > > > > > I'm still wondering what those BIG UGLY SCARS ARE ON BOTH your > > > polished shanks? Is that glue? It looks like glue or resin. > > > > > > When you started in this group you had been selling lightning whelk as > > > Lakshmi Shank, but now you have become over-night expert!? > > > > > > Why not take the MIDDLE PATH, not too expensive, not too cheap. But if > > > Chandrashekar (your guru) is over charging, and you are just a broker, > > > then I guess you have nothing to lose. > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Pt Siva Prasad Tata" > > > <sptata@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Richardji, > > > > Re the prices: Last year the price of my flat was Rs.22 lacks. Now > > it is > > > > Rs.46 lacks. 8 years ago a fellow offered me a genuine Ekamukhi > > > Rudraksha > > > > for 11000 rupees and I dint buy. Today it is 7.5 lacks. I am not an > > > > economist but I guess the market demand and supply forces have > > > something to > > > > do with it. No one likes increasing the prices as it is not easy to > > > sell at > > > > higher prices. > > > > > > > > Regarding ""on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > > RUNNING THE > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples???"" – I am surprised you find it > > ugly. I > > > > find it a rare beautiful design – of the last circle on the > conch head > > > > curving down to the bottom – exactly like in the picture of the > > > Mohenjo-daro > > > > & Harappa excavations as you can see here > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/shankhaworshipinharappa.htm > > > > A very interesting repeat after 3000 years right? > > > > > > > > Finally, I am most interested to know how such a blasphemously > > insulting > > > > remark against a forum member was allowed to be posted in a > moderator > > > > controlled forum!! > > > > Regards > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/06, Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pt Tata and Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I don't know about the arguement, BUT, I do know about > > > > > prices of Lakshmi Shank. I got small 40 gram Lakshmi Shank and > > it cost > > > > > Rs. 3,000 per gram (delivered in Bangkok). A similar > > > > > shank is > > > > > availab on Tata's site for over Rs. 11,000 per gram. I don't quite > > > > > understand the price > > > > > difference, > > > > > unless someone, or too many people are taking profit. Last I heard > > > > > John Ravi was > > > > > increasing his price to a huge Rs. 9,600 per gram. In the > > beginning of > > > > > this > > > > > forum we were > > > > > told that Rs. 1,000 per gram was the right price. So, why the BIG > > > > > INCREASE??? Is this gouging? I paid a LOT for mine according > to the > > > > > members of this Group in the start of this group. But now you > have a > > > > > shank just like mine (except mine is better quality) BUT the > > price is > > > > > more than I paid by 4 fold!?? > > > > > > > > > > Also, on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > RUNNING THE > > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples??? > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested, VERY !!! ??? > > > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > > Richard > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > With best wishes > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > H-5/3, 3rd Floor > > > > Malviya Nagar > > > > New Delhi - 110017 > > > > Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, > > Mobile: > > > > 9911119235. > > > > Email to: sptata@ > > > > Website: www.astrojyoti.com > > > > You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: > > > > Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. > > > > MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > > 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Chandrashekharji, What is the minimum price for small size Valampuri from your stock? I would like to buy one. Regards. Kiran On 9/14/06, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for including my name in the 'Direct Source' list for > Valampuries. I will definitely supply Valampuries in a comfortable price to > the group members and others approaching me. I will issue the authenticity > certificate and a copy of the X-ray taken with the necessary technical > details used to take X-ray. > > The Valampuries supplied by me can be tested at any reputed 'Malacological > Laboratory' word wide requesting the concerned scientists to take X-Ray > image of the conch supplied in addtition to the visual observations. > > I have sent few of the pictures of my collectiion to many direct > customers approached to me and also to website owners since many traders > established in their business have their own traditional customers. > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > *Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 >* wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Namaste!!! Thanks for that info. I'm creating a list of real Valampuri > dealers, who actually OWN their products. A "Direct Source" list. So > now your name will be in that list too. > > People should avoid the "brokers" because they invest no money and > inflate the price... so what is their use? There is seller, and there > is buyer... what is use of middlemen? In my gem business I must invest > a lot of money to maintain stock; and that is borrowed from banks at > interest. So I deserve to make a profit. But middlemen invest nothing, > and needlessly increase the price. > > Why not do your sales directly!? That is better than sending photos around > to all the middlemen, who invest nothing and increase the price. Why not a > straight-forward business? There is no need to hide behind middlemen,...or > is there? > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects <sacred-objects%40>, > chandrashekhar phadke > <chphadke wrote: > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. Yes, I own genuine Valampuri. > The Gem Quality Valampuri weighing 270 gms.posted recently on the > forum is also owned by me. I can supply genuine Valampuries. I > supply Valampuries with X-Ray image. I personally took interest to > develop X-Ray protocol for Valampuries to prove its authenticity. If > you remember, I am the first person to talk about X-ray imaging to > prove authenticity of Valampuries. I also insist that my customer > should himself take the X-Ray image from the X-Ray unit in his town. > I therefore give my customer, technical details for a perticular > X-Ray. I will discuss Valampuri X-ray and its interpretation on this > forum shortly. > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > Namaste!!! I'm just a bit curious to know...QUESTIONS: Do you > > personally own a genuine Valampuri? More than one? Are you a > Valampuri dealer? > > > > It's a harmless question. But I'd like to know the facts. For > example I'll tell you, I own ONE Valampuri and I am NOT a Valampuri > dealer. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects <sacred-objects%40>, > chandrashekhar phadke > > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. Sorry for late reply. I have > > made some interesting observations on different types of sinistral > > varieties of Turbinella. I am also going to publish a new species > > under the genus Turbinella. I will definitely send you my research > > details when published. It may take some time. > > > > > > I am aware of the personal attacks made on me earlier on this > > forum under a fake ID. However, I am not worried. The attack was > > made by 'somebody' in the trade who has double standards. I am in the > > profession of a research scientist for the last more than 30 years. I > > have thoroughly studied different types of Rudraksha botanically. I > > have posted my personal opinions on Rudraksha based on scientific > > facts on different forums. I do not know why somebody should get > > disturbed on it. I purchase my beads from Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada of > > 'Neparudraksha' who is a genuine Rudraksha dealer from Nepal. > > Shri.Mukunda is also a supplier to many Rudraksha websites in India. > > > > > > I too do business to some extent. However, I am always keen to > > talk about scientific facts whether it is about Rudraksha or > > Valampuri. Being natural, there is much morphological variation in > > both of these 'Sacred Objects'. Whether somebody likes it or not ? > > Whether it suits or not for somebody's business or even for my > > business ? I do not bother. I do business but I do not make high > > claims. Many rudraksha websites add a window 'Disclaimer' in their > > websites. Though, regularly I wear Rudraksha, every day I have to > > take a tablet to control my BP and marine fish thrice a week in my > > diet to keep my heart and arteries healthy. Finally, everybody has > > his own opinion and belief. It takes time, however, facts are proved > > one day or the other. In future, I will continue to write on this > > forum about my little knowledge in the field of Rudraksha and Valampuri. > > > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was mad only to see real Valampuri eight years before. I have > > now good master collection with me. I am always positive to discuss > > my experience in characterisation of types of Valampuries. It is a > > learning process for me also. > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > > > Namaste!!! It sounds funny for a person to say, "I'm not guru", and > > > then go on to list "I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > > > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > > > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > > > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > > > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship." ---That sounds like a > > > guru to me. > > > > > > But you must be aware that there are people who have spoken and > > > written against you and accuse you of being a phony. On the wall of my > > > showroom are all my GIA Diplomas. I would expect the same of other > > > qualified people. > > > > > > Personally I believe you, and appreciate your input. I look forward to > > > your research paper on Valampuri. > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > Richard > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects<sacred-objects%40>, > chandrashekhar phadke > > > <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > > > > > > > I am not a Guru of Mr. Pandit S. P. Tata. Basically, I am a > > > biotechnologist. I did my M.Sc., Ph.D. from the Poona University, > > > India (1975 and 1982) in the field of Entomogenous Fungi (Insect > > > killing fungi as biocontrol agents). I did my post doctoral research > > > at Wye College, Wye, Near Ashford, Kent, TN 25 5AH, England in 1991 > > > and 1994 on the British Council Fellowship. > > > > > > > > I have a US Patent No. 5750401 granted by the US Patent Office on > > > 12 May 1998. The patent is in the field of bamboo biotechnology. I > > > also have research papers in the field of Mycology and Plant > > > biotechnology. > > > > > > > > My present research interest is sinistral varieties under the > > > genus Turbinella. This is a personal self financed research. I will > > > be publishing few research papers on this subject and I am in touch > > > with malacologists from abroad. > > > > > > > > The Valampuri weighing 45 gms. displayed on Shri. Tata's website > > > does not belong to me. > > > > > > > > I am ready to show my master collection of Valampuries, if you > > > have any friend or representative in India. > > > > > > > > Thanking you and with personal regards, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit Tata, > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! Using your logic I can charge for diamonds or gems ANY > > > > price I like, even one billion dollors. Yes, you have the right to > > > > OVER CHARGE, but the clients have the right to say NO! Although > there > > > > is a sucker born every minute. > > > > > > > > I'm still wondering what those BIG UGLY SCARS ARE ON BOTH your > > > > polished shanks? Is that glue? It looks like glue or resin. > > > > > > > > When you started in this group you had been selling lightning > whelk as > > > > Lakshmi Shank, but now you have become over-night expert!? > > > > > > > > Why not take the MIDDLE PATH, not too expensive, not too cheap. > But if > > > > Chandrashekar (your guru) is over charging, and you are just a > broker, > > > > then I guess you have nothing to lose. > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > sacred-objects<sacred-objects%40>, > "Pt Siva Prasad Tata" > > > > <sptata@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Richardji, > > > > > Re the prices: Last year the price of my flat was Rs.22 lacks. Now > > > it is > > > > > Rs.46 lacks. 8 years ago a fellow offered me a genuine Ekamukhi > > > > Rudraksha > > > > > for 11000 rupees and I dint buy. Today it is 7.5 lacks. I am > not an > > > > > economist but I guess the market demand and supply forces have > > > > something to > > > > > do with it. No one likes increasing the prices as it is not > easy to > > > > sell at > > > > > higher prices. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ""on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > > > RUNNING THE > > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples???"" � I am surprised you find it > > > ugly. I > > > > > find it a rare beautiful design � of the last circle on the > > conch head > > > > > curving down to the bottom � exactly like in the picture of the > > > > Mohenjo-daro > > > > > & Harappa excavations as you can see here > > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/shankhaworshipinharappa.htm > > > > > A very interesting repeat after 3000 years right? > > > > > > > > > > Finally, I am most interested to know how such a blasphemously > > > insulting > > > > > remark against a forum member was allowed to be posted in a > > moderator > > > > > controlled forum!! > > > > > Regards > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/06, Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pt Tata and Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I don't know about the arguement, BUT, I do know > about > > > > > > prices of Lakshmi Shank. I got small 40 gram Lakshmi Shank and > > > it cost > > > > > > Rs. 3,000 per gram (delivered in Bangkok). A similar > > > > > > shank is > > > > > > availab on Tata's site for over Rs. 11,000 per gram. I don't > quite > > > > > > understand the price > > > > > > difference, > > > > > > unless someone, or too many people are taking profit. Last I > heard > > > > > > John Ravi was > > > > > > increasing his price to a huge Rs. 9,600 per gram. In the > > > beginning of > > > > > > this > > > > > > forum we were > > > > > > told that Rs. 1,000 per gram was the right price. So, why > the BIG > > > > > > INCREASE??? Is this gouging? I paid a LOT for mine according > > to the > > > > > > members of this Group in the start of this group. But now you > > have a > > > > > > shank just like mine (except mine is better quality) BUT the > > > price is > > > > > > more than I paid by 4 fold!?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, on the "polished" shanks WHAT IS THE BIG UGLY SCAR > > RUNNING THE > > > > > > LENGTH of both of your samples??? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested, VERY !!! ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata > > > > > H-5/3, 3rd Floor > > > > > Malviya Nagar > > > > > New Delhi - 110017 > > > > > Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, > > > Mobile: > > > > > 9911119235. > > > > > Email to: sptata@ > > > > > Website: www.astrojyoti.com > > > > > You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: > > > > > Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. > > > > > MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > > > 8. 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