Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Dear RRji, if there is a energy to hurt sure there is energy to heal isnit it. the enrrgy to hiurt is so distructive, regressive and fissile too. I am sure there is one on the reverside as well. crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Prafulla, I truly hope and desire that there exists something akin to healing energy for the worst thing anyone I assume would want is to chase a mirage, particularly when one 'directly' tastes the sweetness of the date fruits and the cool water, really that God and providence -- umm ... provides, so readily!! Bishshashey melai Hori, torkey bohu dur <A recent Sage Said!> , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Kumar ji, > > Yes, that is why in past few years - people have started diverting to > yogas and accupressure for medical relief and they have experienced > very good results too. Courtesy Baba Ramdev, ofcourse !! > > But these yogas are more rationalized, scientific and apparent > remedies. Even people practicing medicine, have started acknowledging > it. See the momentum in India - which has taking people by pleasant > surprise; and many of MNC Pharma companies and soft drink producers > are losing ground. > > On a seperate note - My wife learnt pranik healing (advanced course > upto crystal healing level) and in my observation, it works > brilliantly too. Perhaps, this has gained the momentum as yet in > interiors of the country. > > Coming to jyotish - all these alternative medicines / methods, > balances the elements / energy in the body and in turn, deals with the > medical issues. Ideally, jyotish (or say medical astrology) can be > effectively blended to diagnose the imbalance (excess / shortcoming). > Dr Charak has done good research in medical astrology and recently, I > observed one astrologer assisting natives (on dedicated forum for > medical astrology) through jyotish. > > But, will the ritualistic mantras can really help in today's age, must > be bit complex (though not impossible) for difficulties / impurities > of modern age issues .. and so is its effectiveness too. Let me put > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful (which they > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with terrorism > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in such > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !! > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mikel, sanjiv, Arjun > > good we can see some of our traditional solutions at work, and we > know if done correctly will work, when people r spending millions on > different hospitals, doctors this is a small expenditure, if it works > a good thing anyway as people go to these only when they give up all > other hope systems same is story with Ayurveda, homeopathy, nature > cure etc. > > we need a holistic approach and find a right balance. > > > > Japanese use modern diagnostic tools still rely on alternate > medicine systems for results we need to pride in our past and give it > a shot can refine it in the long run as Chinese, Japanese , Tibetans > are doing with their medicine. > > > > > > Mickey Jaiswal <speedpwr11@> wrote: > Dear Arjunji, I will send your phone# to his > parents in India. Hopefully they get in touch with you and try out > this remedy. > > Thanks, > > Sanajeev > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > dear friends > > > > mrita sanjivini vidya is a ritualistic abhishekam to lord rudra by > > chanting the secretive mrita sanjivini mantra with which sage > > sukracharya brought back to life several dead rakshasas. after > > performing this mrita sanjivini ritual to a svayambhu shivling, it > > is thoroughly cleaned with gangajal and then proper rudrabhishekam > > is performed with cow milk etc. > > > > this is a difficult and time consuming ritual which i do very rarely > > to a seriously suffering or terminally ill people. to such a > > request from a person who has come from abroad specifically for this > > purpose to delhi, am doing this on monday the 18th september at > > ravanjanmabhoomi in Uttar Pradesh and am charging a nominal dakshina > > of rupees eleven hundred for both mritasanjivini pooja as well as > > rudrabhishekam. interested people can attend this function > > personally or get this done remotely by getting their name, > > nakshatra and gothra recited in the sankalpam. > > > > for further information on this, one may contact on my mobile (0) > > 9948892439 or write to my personal ID panditarjun2004@ > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Dear Kumar ji, I speak not from a point of arrogance -- please understand! If I have extra energy, would I be focusing it on the burning desert or the shivering creatures that were deprived of energy? But then -- I am not Sun or carry His energy to make those decisions and the choice as to who lives and dies or at least gets a chance to! RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear RRji, > if there is a energy to hurt sure there is energy to heal isnit it. the enrrgy to hiurt is so distructive, regressive and fissile too. > > I am sure there is one on the reverside as well. > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Dear Prafulla, > > I truly hope and desire that there exists something akin to healing > energy for the worst thing anyone I assume would want is to chase a > mirage, particularly when one 'directly' tastes the sweetness of the > date fruits and the cool water, really that God and providence -- > umm ... provides, so readily!! > > Bishshashey melai Hori, torkey bohu dur <A recent Sage Said!> > > , "Prafulla Gang" > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Kumar ji, > > > > Yes, that is why in past few years - people have started diverting > to > > yogas and accupressure for medical relief and they have experienced > > very good results too. Courtesy Baba Ramdev, ofcourse !! > > > > But these yogas are more rationalized, scientific and apparent > > remedies. Even people practicing medicine, have started > acknowledging > > it. See the momentum in India - which has taking people by pleasant > > surprise; and many of MNC Pharma companies and soft drink producers > > are losing ground. > > > > On a seperate note - My wife learnt pranik healing (advanced course > > upto crystal healing level) and in my observation, it works > > brilliantly too. Perhaps, this has gained the momentum as yet in > > interiors of the country. > > > > Coming to jyotish - all these alternative medicines / methods, > > balances the elements / energy in the body and in turn, deals with > the > > medical issues. Ideally, jyotish (or say medical astrology) can be > > effectively blended to diagnose the imbalance (excess / > shortcoming). > > Dr Charak has done good research in medical astrology and recently, > I > > observed one astrologer assisting natives (on dedicated forum for > > medical astrology) through jyotish. > > > > But, will the ritualistic mantras can really help in today's age, > must > > be bit complex (though not impossible) for difficulties / impurities > > of modern age issues .. and so is its effectiveness too. Let me put > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful (which > they > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with terrorism > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in such > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !! > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mikel, sanjiv, Arjun > > > good we can see some of our traditional solutions at work, and > we > > know if done correctly will work, when people r spending millions > on > > different hospitals, doctors this is a small expenditure, if it > works > > a good thing anyway as people go to these only when they give up > all > > other hope systems same is story with Ayurveda, homeopathy, nature > > cure etc. > > > we need a holistic approach and find a right balance. > > > > > > Japanese use modern diagnostic tools still rely on alternate > > medicine systems for results we need to pride in our past and give > it > > a shot can refine it in the long run as Chinese, Japanese , > Tibetans > > are doing with their medicine. > > > > > > > > > Mickey Jaiswal <speedpwr11@> wrote: > > Dear Arjunji, I will send your phone# to his > > parents in India. Hopefully they get in touch with you and try out > > this remedy. > > > Thanks, > > > Sanajeev > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > dear friends > > > > > > mrita sanjivini vidya is a ritualistic abhishekam to lord rudra > by > > > chanting the secretive mrita sanjivini mantra with which sage > > > sukracharya brought back to life several dead rakshasas. after > > > performing this mrita sanjivini ritual to a svayambhu shivling, > it > > > is thoroughly cleaned with gangajal and then proper > rudrabhishekam > > > is performed with cow milk etc. > > > > > > this is a difficult and time consuming ritual which i do very > rarely > > > to a seriously suffering or terminally ill people. to such a > > > request from a person who has come from abroad specifically for > this > > > purpose to delhi, am doing this on monday the 18th september at > > > ravanjanmabhoomi in Uttar Pradesh and am charging a nominal > dakshina > > > of rupees eleven hundred for both mritasanjivini pooja as well > as > > > rudrabhishekam. interested people can attend this function > > > personally or get this done remotely by getting their name, > > > nakshatra and gothra recited in the sankalpam. > > > > > > for further information on this, one may contact on my mobile > (0) > > > 9948892439 or write to my personal ID panditarjun2004@ > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. 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Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yes Sir! And, Thanks!! RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear RRji, > if there is a energy to hurt sure there is energy to heal isnit it. the enrrgy to hiurt is so distructive, regressive and fissile too. > > I am sure there is one on the reverside as well. > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Dear Prafulla, > > I truly hope and desire that there exists something akin to healing > energy for the worst thing anyone I assume would want is to chase a > mirage, particularly when one 'directly' tastes the sweetness of the > date fruits and the cool water, really that God and providence -- > umm ... provides, so readily!! > > Bishshashey melai Hori, torkey bohu dur <A recent Sage Said!> > > , "Prafulla Gang" > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Kumar ji, > > > > Yes, that is why in past few years - people have started diverting > to > > yogas and accupressure for medical relief and they have experienced > > very good results too. Courtesy Baba Ramdev, ofcourse !! > > > > But these yogas are more rationalized, scientific and apparent > > remedies. Even people practicing medicine, have started > acknowledging > > it. See the momentum in India - which has taking people by pleasant > > surprise; and many of MNC Pharma companies and soft drink producers > > are losing ground. > > > > On a seperate note - My wife learnt pranik healing (advanced course > > upto crystal healing level) and in my observation, it works > > brilliantly too. Perhaps, this has gained the momentum as yet in > > interiors of the country. > > > > Coming to jyotish - all these alternative medicines / methods, > > balances the elements / energy in the body and in turn, deals with > the > > medical issues. Ideally, jyotish (or say medical astrology) can be > > effectively blended to diagnose the imbalance (excess / > shortcoming). > > Dr Charak has done good research in medical astrology and recently, > I > > observed one astrologer assisting natives (on dedicated forum for > > medical astrology) through jyotish. > > > > But, will the ritualistic mantras can really help in today's age, > must > > be bit complex (though not impossible) for difficulties / impurities > > of modern age issues .. and so is its effectiveness too. Let me put > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful (which > they > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with terrorism > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in such > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !! > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mikel, sanjiv, Arjun > > > good we can see some of our traditional solutions at work, and > we > > know if done correctly will work, when people r spending millions > on > > different hospitals, doctors this is a small expenditure, if it > works > > a good thing anyway as people go to these only when they give up > all > > other hope systems same is story with Ayurveda, homeopathy, nature > > cure etc. > > > we need a holistic approach and find a right balance. > > > > > > Japanese use modern diagnostic tools still rely on alternate > > medicine systems for results we need to pride in our past and give > it > > a shot can refine it in the long run as Chinese, Japanese , > Tibetans > > are doing with their medicine. > > > > > > > > > Mickey Jaiswal <speedpwr11@> wrote: > > Dear Arjunji, I will send your phone# to his > > parents in India. Hopefully they get in touch with you and try out > > this remedy. > > > Thanks, > > > Sanajeev > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > dear friends > > > > > > mrita sanjivini vidya is a ritualistic abhishekam to lord rudra > by > > > chanting the secretive mrita sanjivini mantra with which sage > > > sukracharya brought back to life several dead rakshasas. after > > > performing this mrita sanjivini ritual to a svayambhu shivling, > it > > > is thoroughly cleaned with gangajal and then proper > rudrabhishekam > > > is performed with cow milk etc. > > > > > > this is a difficult and time consuming ritual which i do very > rarely > > > to a seriously suffering or terminally ill people. to such a > > > request from a person who has come from abroad specifically for > this > > > purpose to delhi, am doing this on monday the 18th september at > > > ravanjanmabhoomi in Uttar Pradesh and am charging a nominal > dakshina > > > of rupees eleven hundred for both mritasanjivini pooja as well > as > > > rudrabhishekam. interested people can attend this function > > > personally or get this done remotely by getting their name, > > > nakshatra and gothra recited in the sankalpam. > > > > > > for further information on this, one may contact on my mobile > (0) > > > 9948892439 or write to my personal ID panditarjun2004@ > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Dear RR, I did not get what u were to say here. but well the high end energy of the GRAHAS was not my post, more on mantras, too small a portion in the overall scheme of creation. Mantras what men did create to chanellise external or internal energy channels.. crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Kumar ji, I speak not from a point of arrogance -- please understand! If I have extra energy, would I be focusing it on the burning desert or the shivering creatures that were deprived of energy? But then -- I am not Sun or carry His energy to make those decisions and the choice as to who lives and dies or at least gets a chance to! RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear RRji, > if there is a energy to hurt sure there is energy to heal isnit it. the enrrgy to hiurt is so distructive, regressive and fissile too. > > I am sure there is one on the reverside as well. > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Dear Prafulla, > > I truly hope and desire that there exists something akin to healing > energy for the worst thing anyone I assume would want is to chase a > mirage, particularly when one 'directly' tastes the sweetness of the > date fruits and the cool water, really that God and providence -- > umm ... provides, so readily!! > > Bishshashey melai Hori, torkey bohu dur <A recent Sage Said!> > > , "Prafulla Gang" > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Kumar ji, > > > > Yes, that is why in past few years - people have started diverting > to > > yogas and accupressure for medical relief and they have experienced > > very good results too. Courtesy Baba Ramdev, ofcourse !! > > > > But these yogas are more rationalized, scientific and apparent > > remedies. Even people practicing medicine, have started > acknowledging > > it. See the momentum in India - which has taking people by pleasant > > surprise; and many of MNC Pharma companies and soft drink producers > > are losing ground. > > > > On a seperate note - My wife learnt pranik healing (advanced course > > upto crystal healing level) and in my observation, it works > > brilliantly too. Perhaps, this has gained the momentum as yet in > > interiors of the country. > > > > Coming to jyotish - all these alternative medicines / methods, > > balances the elements / energy in the body and in turn, deals with > the > > medical issues. Ideally, jyotish (or say medical astrology) can be > > effectively blended to diagnose the imbalance (excess / > shortcoming). > > Dr Charak has done good research in medical astrology and recently, > I > > observed one astrologer assisting natives (on dedicated forum for > > medical astrology) through jyotish. > > > > But, will the ritualistic mantras can really help in today's age, > must > > be bit complex (though not impossible) for difficulties / impurities > > of modern age issues .. and so is its effectiveness too. Let me put > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful (which > they > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with terrorism > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in such > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !! > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mikel, sanjiv, Arjun > > > good we can see some of our traditional solutions at work, and > we > > know if done correctly will work, when people r spending millions > on > > different hospitals, doctors this is a small expenditure, if it > works > > a good thing anyway as people go to these only when they give up > all > > other hope systems same is story with Ayurveda, homeopathy, nature > > cure etc. > > > we need a holistic approach and find a right balance. > > > > > > Japanese use modern diagnostic tools still rely on alternate > > medicine systems for results we need to pride in our past and give > it > > a shot can refine it in the long run as Chinese, Japanese , > Tibetans > > are doing with their medicine. > > > > > > > > > Mickey Jaiswal <speedpwr11@> wrote: > > Dear Arjunji, I will send your phone# to his > > parents in India. Hopefully they get in touch with you and try out > > this remedy. > > > Thanks, > > > Sanajeev > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > dear friends > > > > > > mrita sanjivini vidya is a ritualistic abhishekam to lord rudra > by > > > chanting the secretive mrita sanjivini mantra with which sage > > > sukracharya brought back to life several dead rakshasas. after > > > performing this mrita sanjivini ritual to a svayambhu shivling, > it > > > is thoroughly cleaned with gangajal and then proper > rudrabhishekam > > > is performed with cow milk etc. > > > > > > this is a difficult and time consuming ritual which i do very > rarely > > > to a seriously suffering or terminally ill people. to such a > > > request from a person who has come from abroad specifically for > this > > > purpose to delhi, am doing this on monday the 18th september at > > > ravanjanmabhoomi in Uttar Pradesh and am charging a nominal > dakshina > > > of rupees eleven hundred for both mritasanjivini pooja as well > as > > > rudrabhishekam. interested people can attend this function > > > personally or get this done remotely by getting their name, > > > nakshatra and gothra recited in the sankalpam. > > > > > > for further information on this, one may contact on my mobile > (0) > > > 9948892439 or write to my personal ID panditarjun2004@ > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. 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Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Dear Kumar ji, For me astrology has several levels of experience -- just as life. There is the physical level that we all experience here on forums and in articles and books and so on. There is the mental level of our astrological experience that we experience, all of us I am sure, and sometimes try to express -- And that which we experience even deeper and only can do so individually, but never really manage to express fully. This is the level which we astrologers must stay in touch with because this is where planets are not bodies and pindas anymore but energies. Perhaps this is the plane where the shadow planets, the body-less but important indicators finally rise above the pauranic drama of khirsagar manthan and arrive at a plane where we have nine and not seven beacons to lead us humans! Still not making sense? RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear RR, > > I did not get what u were to say here. > > but well the high end energy of the GRAHAS was not my post, more on mantras, too small a portion in the overall scheme of creation. Mantras what men did create to chanellise external or internal energy channels.. > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Dear Kumar ji, > > I speak not from a point of arrogance -- please understand! > If I have extra energy, would I be focusing it on the burning desert > or the shivering creatures that were deprived of energy? > > But then -- I am not Sun or carry His energy to make those decisions > and the choice as to who lives and dies or at least gets a chance to! > > RR > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear RRji, > > if there is a energy to hurt sure there is energy to heal isnit > it. the enrrgy to hiurt is so distructive, regressive and fissile > too. > > > > I am sure there is one on the reverside as well. > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: Dear Prafulla, > > > > I truly hope and desire that there exists something akin to > healing > > energy for the worst thing anyone I assume would want is to chase > a > > mirage, particularly when one 'directly' tastes the sweetness of > the > > date fruits and the cool water, really that God and providence -- > > umm ... provides, so readily!! > > > > Bishshashey melai Hori, torkey bohu dur <A recent Sage Said!> > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Kumar ji, > > > > > > Yes, that is why in past few years - people have started > diverting > > to > > > yogas and accupressure for medical relief and they have > experienced > > > very good results too. Courtesy Baba Ramdev, ofcourse !! > > > > > > But these yogas are more rationalized, scientific and apparent > > > remedies. Even people practicing medicine, have started > > acknowledging > > > it. See the momentum in India - which has taking people by > pleasant > > > surprise; and many of MNC Pharma companies and soft drink > producers > > > are losing ground. > > > > > > On a seperate note - My wife learnt pranik healing (advanced > course > > > upto crystal healing level) and in my observation, it works > > > brilliantly too. Perhaps, this has gained the momentum as yet in > > > interiors of the country. > > > > > > Coming to jyotish - all these alternative medicines / methods, > > > balances the elements / energy in the body and in turn, deals > with > > the > > > medical issues. Ideally, jyotish (or say medical astrology) can > be > > > effectively blended to diagnose the imbalance (excess / > > shortcoming). > > > Dr Charak has done good research in medical astrology and > recently, > > I > > > observed one astrologer assisting natives (on dedicated forum > for > > > medical astrology) through jyotish. > > > > > > But, will the ritualistic mantras can really help in today's > age, > > must > > > be bit complex (though not impossible) for difficulties / > impurities > > > of modern age issues .. and so is its effectiveness too. Let me > put > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful > (which > > they > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with > terrorism > > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in > such > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !! > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mikel, sanjiv, Arjun > > > > good we can see some of our traditional solutions at work, > and > > we > > > know if done correctly will work, when people r spending > millions > > on > > > different hospitals, doctors this is a small expenditure, if > it > > works > > > a good thing anyway as people go to these only when they give > up > > all > > > other hope systems same is story with Ayurveda, homeopathy, > nature > > > cure etc. > > > > we need a holistic approach and find a right balance. > > > > > > > > Japanese use modern diagnostic tools still rely on alternate > > > medicine systems for results we need to pride in our past and > give > > it > > > a shot can refine it in the long run as Chinese, Japanese , > > Tibetans > > > are doing with their medicine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mickey Jaiswal <speedpwr11@> > wrote: > > > Dear Arjunji, I will send your phone# to his > > > parents in India. Hopefully they get in touch with you and try > out > > > this remedy. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sanajeev > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > mrita sanjivini vidya is a ritualistic abhishekam to lord > rudra > > by > > > > chanting the secretive mrita sanjivini mantra with which > sage > > > > sukracharya brought back to life several dead rakshasas. > after > > > > performing this mrita sanjivini ritual to a svayambhu > shivling, > > it > > > > is thoroughly cleaned with gangajal and then proper > > rudrabhishekam > > > > is performed with cow milk etc. > > > > > > > > this is a difficult and time consuming ritual which i do > very > > rarely > > > > to a seriously suffering or terminally ill people. to such > a > > > > request from a person who has come from abroad specifically > for > > this > > > > purpose to delhi, am doing this on monday the 18th > september at > > > > ravanjanmabhoomi in Uttar Pradesh and am charging a nominal > > dakshina > > > > of rupees eleven hundred for both mritasanjivini pooja as > well > > as > > > > rudrabhishekam. interested people can attend this function > > > > personally or get this done remotely by getting their name, > > > > nakshatra and gothra recited in the sankalpam. > > > > > > > > for further information on this, one may contact on my > mobile > > (0) > > > > 9948892439 or write to my personal ID panditarjun2004@ > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. 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