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In order for the mantras to work note this:

The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries to

understand them!

 

 

 

The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong reasons!

They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are talking

about!

 

Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not HIS

mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is recommending?

 

Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor religions!

 

The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but in the

chanting and repetition!

 

Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every single time!

 

IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI can

readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood story

was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" -- whatever!

 

 

RR

 

-- In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear ...

>

>Let me put

> another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful (which

they

> are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with terrorism

> (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in such

> practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

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Dear Ranjan ji,

 

Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to (including

its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is why,

they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large. It is

not just around faith, as people understand it.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> In order for the mantras to work note this:

> The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries to

> understand them!

>

>

>

> The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong reasons!

> They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are talking

> about!

>

> Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not HIS

> mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is recommending?

>

> Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor religions!

>

> The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but in the

> chanting and repetition!

>

> Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every single time!

>

> IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI can

> readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood story

> was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" -- whatever!

>

>

> RR

>

> -- In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear ...

> >

> >Let me put

> > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful (which

> they

> > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with terrorism

> > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in such

> > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

>

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Prafulla,

 

There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

 

I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that time.

Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my desired

objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

 

I am just being plainly honest!

 

Take it or leave it!!

 

It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to give up!

 

 

rr

 

 

In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan ji,

>

> Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to (including

> its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is why,

> they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large. It is

> not just around faith, as people understand it.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries to

> > understand them!

> >

> >

> >

> > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong

reasons!

> > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are

talking

> > about!

> >

> > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not HIS

> > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

recommending?

> >

> > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor

religions!

> >

> > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but in

the

> > chanting and repetition!

> >

> > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every single

time!

> >

> > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI can

> > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood

story

> > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" -- whatever!

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear ...

> > >

> > >Let me put

> > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful

(which

> > they

> > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

terrorism

> > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in

such

> > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

>

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Dear Ranjan ji,

 

Certainly - they work. But needs stringent compliances. and native got

to do himself to gain / balance (the planetary?)energy.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Prafulla,

>

> There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

>

> I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that time.

> Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my desired

> objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

>

> I am just being plainly honest!

>

> Take it or leave it!!

>

> It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to give up!

>

>

> rr

>

>

> In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ranjan ji,

> >

> > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to (including

> > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is why,

> > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large. It is

> > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> >

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries to

> > > understand them!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong

> reasons!

> > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are

> talking

> > > about!

> > >

> > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not HIS

> > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> recommending?

> > >

> > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor

> religions!

> > >

> > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but in

> the

> > > chanting and repetition!

> > >

> > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every single

> time!

> > >

> > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI can

> > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood

> story

> > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" -- whatever!

> > >

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear ...

> > > >

> > > >Let me put

> > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful

> (which

> > > they

> > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

> terrorism

> > > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged in

> such

> > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> >

>

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Prafulla,

 

Mantras are not specific to any religion, they are just repetitions

affirming that we are children with real parents!

 

IF we consider ourselves as orphans and this indeed happen to be so,

then it is beyond my scope to explain!

 

We can only be orphans by personal choice and just because we have

given up and perhaps that is the best we can do, at this time!!

 

It is still not the end of the experience, trust me!!

 

RR

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan ji,

>

> Certainly - they work. But needs stringent compliances. and native

got

> to do himself to gain / balance (the planetary?)energy.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Prafulla,

> >

> > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

> >

> > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that time.

> > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my desired

> > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> >

> > I am just being plainly honest!

> >

> > Take it or leave it!!

> >

> > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to give

up!

> >

> >

> > rr

> >

> >

> > In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > >

> > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

(including

> > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is

why,

> > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large.

It is

> > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries

to

> > > > understand them!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong

> > reasons!

> > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are

> > talking

> > > > about!

> > > >

> > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not

HIS

> > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> > recommending?

> > > >

> > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor

> > religions!

> > > >

> > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but

in

> > the

> > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > >

> > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every

single

> > time!

> > > >

> > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI

can

> > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood

> > story

> > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

whatever!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear ...

> > > > >

> > > > >Let me put

> > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful

> > (which

> > > > they

> > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

> > terrorism

> > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged

in

> > such

> > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear RR ji and all,

 

It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we all

remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to him.Any

chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is unanswered.

 

Regards

Nalini

(, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Prafulla,

>

> There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

>

> I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that time.

> Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my desired

> objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

>

> I am just being plainly honest!

>

> Take it or leave it!!

>

> It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to give

up!

>

>

> rr

>

>

> In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ranjan ji,

> >

> > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

(including

> > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is

why,

> > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large.

It is

> > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> >

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries

to

> > > understand them!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong

> reasons!

> > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are

> talking

> > > about!

> > >

> > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not

HIS

> > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> recommending?

> > >

> > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor

> religions!

> > >

> > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but

in

> the

> > > chanting and repetition!

> > >

> > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every single

> time!

> > >

> > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI

can

> > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood

> story

> > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" -- whatever!

> > >

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear ...

> > > >

> > > >Let me put

> > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful

> (which

> > > they

> > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

> terrorism

> > > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged

in

> such

> > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Naliniji,

 

Absolutely correct. Theres no heartfelt prayer which would

not be unanswered. All would be answered. Few conditions

do apply. Foremost faith, love and devotion., to the diety.

Secondly what is been prayed for, we should be worthy enough

to receive.

 

I have succesully seen the effects of RamRakshatra Stotra

within one hour recitations on two different times

and two different persons. In one hour the temperature of

my son came down to 99deg. from 106F . In the other case

poison left my daughters body and came out of unconsciousness.

These small miracles took place within 1 hour and at the

recitation of the 11th time of the mantra. Those who were

near me at the time a few among them non-believers also have

turned believers now. I have many such instances of Gods grace

with various other mantras too,but some other time.

 

The normal chanting of Japa (Ishta mantra)once I completed a good

amount before 11.00am. On Sunday normally I attend lectures .

On that day at 11.00 when the lecture started, you may find

astonishing, for the next two hours whatever sentence the

Proffessor was going to speak ,was already formed in my mind,

I mean the words were already known to me, what he is going

to speak and what is his topic going to me.,with

every sentence coming out from his mouth was known to me a

few seconds before. Honestly i tell you

I did get scared and phoned up my wife at lunch after 1.00

just to check my own normalcy, but then later on realised that

sometimes concentrated efforts do activate or energise

certain kendras or centres or chakras ,in body whatever you

may call them.

 

Be whatever it may be, but Yes Mantras are a powerful way to

cleanse our purva paap karmas and also bring us closer to

our lovely God.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> Dear RR ji and all,

>

> It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we all

> remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to him.Any

> chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

> practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is unanswered.

>

> Regards

> Nalini

> (, "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Prafulla,

> >

> > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

> >

> > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that time.

> > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my desired

> > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> >

> > I am just being plainly honest!

> >

> > Take it or leave it!!

> >

> > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to give

> up!

> >

> >

> > rr

> >

> >

> > In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > >

> > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

> (including

> > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is

> why,

> > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large.

> It is

> > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries

> to

> > > > understand them!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong

> > reasons!

> > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are

> > talking

> > > > about!

> > > >

> > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not

> HIS

> > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> > recommending?

> > > >

> > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor

> > religions!

> > > >

> > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but

> in

> > the

> > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > >

> > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every

single

> > time!

> > > >

> > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI

> can

> > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood

> > story

> > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

whatever!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear ...

> > > > >

> > > > >Let me put

> > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful

> > (which

> > > > they

> > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

> > terrorism

> > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged

> in

> > such

> > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear sister Nalini,

 

You are very correct. However, in that instance I have often wondered

hence: Did I find/select the mantra or arrived at the mantra at the

time that I was to! Hope this makes sense to you!!

 

RR

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> Dear RR ji and all,

>

> It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we all

> remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to him.Any

> chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

> practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is unanswered.

>

> Regards

> Nalini

> (, "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Prafulla,

> >

> > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

> >

> > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that time.

> > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my desired

> > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> >

> > I am just being plainly honest!

> >

> > Take it or leave it!!

> >

> > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to give

> up!

> >

> >

> > rr

> >

> >

> > In , "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > >

> > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

> (including

> > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That is

> why,

> > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at large.

> It is

> > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter tries

> to

> > > > understand them!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or wrong

> > reasons!

> > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you are

> > talking

> > > > about!

> > > >

> > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is not

> HIS

> > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> > recommending?

> > > >

> > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.." Or "HOLY

> > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or minor

> > religions!

> > > >

> > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding but

> in

> > the

> > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > >

> > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every

single

> > time!

> > > >

> > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right! KHI_CHADI

> can

> > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly* childhood

> > story

> > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

whatever!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear ...

> > > > >

> > > > >Let me put

> > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very powerful

> > (which

> > > > they

> > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

> > terrorism

> > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country engaged

> in

> > such

> > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > >

> >

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RRji,

 

Namaskar. It was to Be, no sooner no later. That was free will+Karma.

 

Nalini

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear sister Nalini,

>

> You are very correct. However, in that instance I have often

wondered

> hence: Did I find/select the mantra or arrived at the mantra at

the

> time that I was to! Hope this makes sense to you!!

>

> RR

>

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RR ji and all,

> >

> > It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we all

> > remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to him.Any

> > chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

> > practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is

unanswered.

> >

> > Regards

> > Nalini

> > (, "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Prafulla,

> > >

> > > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

> > >

> > > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that

time.

> > > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my

desired

> > > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> > >

> > > I am just being plainly honest!

> > >

> > > Take it or leave it!!

> > >

> > > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to

give

> > up!

> > >

> > >

> > > rr

> > >

> > >

> > > In , "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > > >

> > > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

> > (including

> > > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals). That

is

> > why,

> > > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at

large.

> > It is

> > > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter

tries

> > to

> > > > > understand them!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or

wrong

> > > reasons!

> > > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you

are

> > > talking

> > > > > about!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is

not

> > HIS

> > > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> > > recommending?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.."

Or "HOLY

> > > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or

minor

> > > religions!

> > > > >

> > > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding

but

> > in

> > > the

> > > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > > >

> > > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every

> single

> > > time!

> > > > >

> > > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right!

KHI_CHADI

> > can

> > > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly*

childhood

> > > story

> > > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

> whatever!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Let me put

> > > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very

powerful

> > > (which

> > > > > they

> > > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal with

> > > terrorism

> > > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country

engaged

> > in

> > > such

> > > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Then why do the questions exist?

 

In some cases many, in case you have been reading the board!!

 

By the way, nice to see you back!! We had some interesting

discussions back several months ago, if you recall, when Krishnan ji

was around too.

 

RR

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> RRji,

>

> Namaskar. It was to Be, no sooner no later. That was free

will+Karma.

>

> Nalini

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear sister Nalini,

> >

> > You are very correct. However, in that instance I have often

> wondered

> > hence: Did I find/select the mantra or arrived at the mantra at

> the

> > time that I was to! Hope this makes sense to you!!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "auromirra19"

> > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RR ji and all,

> > >

> > > It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we all

> > > remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to

him.Any

> > > chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

> > > practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is

> unanswered.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Nalini

> > > (, "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Prafulla,

> > > >

> > > > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years ago.

> > > >

> > > > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at that

> time.

> > > > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my

> desired

> > > > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> > > >

> > > > I am just being plainly honest!

> > > >

> > > > Take it or leave it!!

> > > >

> > > > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared to

> give

> > > up!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > rr

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In , "Prafulla Gang"

> <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

> > > (including

> > > > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals).

That

> is

> > > why,

> > > > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at

> large.

> > > It is

> > > > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter

> tries

> > > to

> > > > > > understand them!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or

> wrong

> > > > reasons!

> > > > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what you

> are

> > > > talking

> > > > > > about!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it is

> not

> > > HIS

> > > > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he is

> > > > recommending?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.."

> Or "HOLY

> > > > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or

> minor

> > > > religions!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the understanding

> but

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND every

> > single

> > > > time!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right!

> KHI_CHADI

> > > can

> > > > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly*

> childhood

> > > > story

> > > > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

> > whatever!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Let me put

> > > > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very

> powerful

> > > > (which

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal

with

> > > > terrorism

> > > > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country

> engaged

> > > in

> > > > such

> > > > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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RRji,

The questions exist till we know the answers. As even in my case, I

had nothing but questions. But Time sometimes blissfully answers

your questions but not when you want frantically to know the answers

to the questions in the question papers. It all happens when the

results are out and you have come out a poor struggling second.

BTW I was away for 3months + having a blast in India. Suffciently

restored both physically and mentally, I am back to my calling.

Nalini

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Then why do the questions exist?

>

> In some cases many, in case you have been reading the board!!

>

> By the way, nice to see you back!! We had some interesting

> discussions back several months ago, if you recall, when Krishnan

ji

> was around too.

>

> RR

>

> , "auromirra19"

> <nalini2818@> wrote:

> >

> > RRji,

> >

> > Namaskar. It was to Be, no sooner no later. That was free

> will+Karma.

> >

> > Nalini

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear sister Nalini,

> > >

> > > You are very correct. However, in that instance I have often

> > wondered

> > > hence: Did I find/select the mantra or arrived at the mantra

at

> > the

> > > time that I was to! Hope this makes sense to you!!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "auromirra19"

> > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear RR ji and all,

> > > >

> > > > It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we all

> > > > remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to

> him.Any

> > > > chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

> > > > practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is

> > unanswered.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Nalini

> > > > (, "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Prafulla,

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years

ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at

that

> > time.

> > > > > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my

> > desired

> > > > > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am just being plainly honest!

> > > > >

> > > > > Take it or leave it!!

> > > > >

> > > > > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared

to

> > give

> > > > up!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > rr

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > <jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered to

> > > > (including

> > > > > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals).

> That

> > is

> > > > why,

> > > > > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at

> > large.

> > > > It is

> > > > > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the chanter

> > tries

> > > > to

> > > > > > > understand them!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right or

> > wrong

> > > > > reasons!

> > > > > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what

you

> > are

> > > > > talking

> > > > > > > about!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it

is

> > not

> > > > HIS

> > > > > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he

is

> > > > > recommending?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.."

> > Or "HOLY

> > > > > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or

> > minor

> > > > > religions!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the

understanding

> > but

> > > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND

every

> > > single

> > > > > time!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right!

> > KHI_CHADI

> > > > can

> > > > > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly*

> > childhood

> > > > > story

> > > > > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

> > > whatever!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- In , "Prafulla

Gang"

> > > > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Let me put

> > > > > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very

> > powerful

> > > > > (which

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal

> with

> > > > > terrorism

> > > > > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country

> > engaged

> > > > in

> > > > > such

> > > > > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Nalini ji,

 

Good to hear that you had a wonderful time in India and feel

rejuvenated.

 

You are right, question exists as long as answer is not born!

However, I think when I asked "Why questions continue to exist.." I

meant one question leads to another and so on. The first question may

be quenched but the thirst for knowledge continues. As bubbles arise

in a turbulent lake, so do questions in a perturbed mind!

 

Answers, thus are not the answer, but be-stilling the waters perhaps

is!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> RRji,

> The questions exist till we know the answers. As even in my case, I

> had nothing but questions. But Time sometimes blissfully answers

> your questions but not when you want frantically to know the

answers

> to the questions in the question papers. It all happens when the

> results are out and you have come out a poor struggling second.

> BTW I was away for 3months + having a blast in India. Suffciently

> restored both physically and mentally, I am back to my calling.

> Nalini

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Then why do the questions exist?

> >

> > In some cases many, in case you have been reading the board!!

> >

> > By the way, nice to see you back!! We had some interesting

> > discussions back several months ago, if you recall, when Krishnan

> ji

> > was around too.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "auromirra19"

> > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > >

> > > RRji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar. It was to Be, no sooner no later. That was free

> > will+Karma.

> > >

> > > Nalini

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear sister Nalini,

> > > >

> > > > You are very correct. However, in that instance I have often

> > > wondered

> > > > hence: Did I find/select the mantra or arrived at the mantra

> at

> > > the

> > > > time that I was to! Hope this makes sense to you!!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "auromirra19"

> > > > <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear RR ji and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > It all depends on the faith behind the chanting, dont we

all

> > > > > remember Valmiki and his chanting of the mantra given to

> > him.Any

> > > > > chanting with faith certainly results, as proven in my case

> > > > > practically. There is rarely a heartfelt prayer that is

> > > unanswered.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Nalini

> > > > > (, "crystal pages"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prafulla,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was a desperate moment in my life many many years

> ago.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I chanted a mantra based on my knowledge of jyotish at

> that

> > > time.

> > > > > > Almost mindlessly and DESPERATELY! It worked and I got my

> > > desired

> > > > > > objective. I did not hurt anyone, I think!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am just being plainly honest!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take it or leave it!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It works if you *know* what you are willing and prepared

> to

> > > give

> > > > > up!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rr

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In , "Prafulla Gang"

> > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes.. mantras need stringent procedures to be adhered

to

> > > > > (including

> > > > > > > its retication, repetitiveness and associated rituals).

> > That

> > > is

> > > > > why,

> > > > > > > they become cumbersome or rather uneasy - for people at

> > > large.

> > > > > It is

> > > > > > > not just around faith, as people understand it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In order for the mantras to work note this:

> > > > > > > > The mantras need to be chanted many thousand times

> > > > > > > > It helps if they are also understood or if the

chanter

> > > tries

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > understand them!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The terrorists are humans, they feel hurt for right

or

> > > wrong

> > > > > > reasons!

> > > > > > > > They are already chanting a mantra that is not what

> you

> > > are

> > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > about!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unless they chant Kumar ji's mantra (I KNOW I KNOW it

> is

> > > not

> > > > > HIS

> > > > > > > > mantra!!) would it be right to question the mantra he

> is

> > > > > > recommending?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mantra is the common base! Whether it is "OM bhur.."

> > > Or "HOLY

> > > > > > > > FATHER .." or the MANTRA of any of the other major or

> > > minor

> > > > > > religions!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The COMMON thread of all mantras is not the

> understanding

> > > but

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > chanting and repetition!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Show me ONE mantra that works the first time! AND

> every

> > > > single

> > > > > > time!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > IF REPETITION IS THE KEY -- then BIRBAL was right!

> > > KHI_CHADI

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > > readily become KHA_CHIDI! Or whatever that *silly*

> > > childhood

> > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > was about! Maybe it was "RAMA RAMA" or 'MARA MARA" --

> > > > whatever!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- In , "Prafulla

> Gang"

> > > > > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear ...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Let me put

> > > > > > > > > another analogy. Let us assume, mantras are very

> > > powerful

> > > > > > (which

> > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > are in certain terms), so cannot it be used to deal

> > with

> > > > > > terrorism

> > > > > > > > > (with the help of all the people across the country

> > > engaged

> > > > > in

> > > > > > such

> > > > > > > > > practices), win the war or win the cricket match !!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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