India, china, rest 6/9 -2 WST v/s left

[Guest guest]

Gopu,

the most important thing west does it is open, honest admit it and even write about their mistakes and sells them as best Sellers where as left has been in shrouded mystery all its life. what we see and what they are r different

ANOTHER MAJOR POINT ON WEST

THEY INVEST, INVENT, THEY ENCOURAGE FREE THINKING SPEECH, WRITING at times on the ridiculous level, u never know their star trek serial did have the cell phones of today then fiction.

the technology used for space applications has made light vehicles, fuel efficient vehicles. the lighter, stronger, more flexible, tennis racquet's [carbon fiber], now used in spectacle frames too.

just one contribution from the left in any part of the world please.

they led to too much power no dissent and led to collapse of Warsaw pact nations including USSR.

wherever socialism was there they broke into pieces , good china gave it up else its fate will be no different and PV NARSHIMA RAO, MAN MOHAN SINGH DID A GREAT JOB in reversing Nehruin Ideas. later NDA did copy implement them better as LEFT DID not have any leverage, to black mail as they do now.

if left has its way surely Bangladesh will progress faster than us, sure..

ask urself a simple question

JAPAN WAS nuked bu\y USA, yet they befriended USA AND BECAME NO TOECCONOMY IN 2 DECADES.

so is China doing now. by aligining heir ecconomic interests with western capital, technology without with no porgress will come.

u can reach self respct, self reliance and not even die aloner collectively we suffer.

PROGRESS, ECCONOMIC, MILITRY POWER WILL SEpeak a lot more and our research will help us.

coke and pepsi may even set up desalination plants which our govt are dithering on if they need to survie surely they will do it. lets not bash them

I AM NOT A FAN of them, but only progressive brains.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

dar prashant ji,

I do agree that the west are open and technologically

very advanced, but the contribution to their science

and technology our Indians have played a major role,

because there u dont have caste,creed or divisions.

But however today US is the worst terroist in the

world, if at all oil prices have been jacking up like

this it is because of the policies of US their

invasion to Iraq, now Iran under their hit list. the

life of an average Iraqi was far better during the

regime of saddam hussein whereas today the same people

are worst sufferers. Because the economy of the US is

totally dependent on arms sales, for which they have

to create disturbances in the countries. We should be

very thankful that we are not in Iraq or Iran or

Lebanon or for that matter saudi arabia. I think we

are drifting from astrology related topic, but this is

also equally important because of our day to day life

is linked to the rulers of the world which totally

related to mundane astrology.

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Gopu,

I have been here in US for almost 40 years and I think your opinion about US is sadly mistaken. US economy is not based on arms sale. There is much more to that. Yes. You are definitely better off not being in Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia otherwise you would be able to post anything here. We Indians and particularly hindus are so naive when it comes to politics of power and that is why we have history of being ruled by all kinds of aggressors. Just stop and think for one minute. If India comes under Islamic rule (I think it is almost question of time given the attitudes of hindus), will you and your children enjoy the freedom that you have today? It is the stated goal of Islamic terrorists to bring the whole world under Islamic rule. Thank US for standing up and be willing to sacrifice lives of their young people to protect freedom and democracy everywhere. It is not really about oil or arms sale.

Regards,

Pratap

 

K Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

dar prashant ji,

I do agree that the west are open and technologically

very advanced, but the contribution to their science

and technology our Indians have played a major role,

because there u dont have caste,creed or divisions.

But however today US is the worst terroist in the

world, if at all oil prices have been jacking up like

this it is because of the policies of US their

invasion to Iraq, now Iran under their hit list. the

life of an average Iraqi was far better during the

regime of saddam hussein whereas today the same people

are worst sufferers. Because the economy of the US is

totally dependent on arms sales, for which they have

to create disturbances in the countries. We should be

very thankful that we are not in Iraq or Iran or

Lebanon or for that matter saudi arabia. I think we

are drifting from astrology related topic, but this is

also equally important because of our day to day life

is linked to the rulers of the world which totally

related to mundane astrology.

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Pratap,

thanks for the support on this aspect i wanted to but did not their goal starting from Spain to Indonesia a crecent Pan Islamic union.

as of today I feel India is a isecular Islamic nation not a secular nation, we r reffered to by the other stan nation by Hinddustan not as land of Hindus but a stan group Kirgistam, Khazikastan, Uzbekistan, Turkmeinstan, Afhghanistan, Pakistan, Hindustan, [ pronounced like Iqulal in sare jaha se aacha as Hindu- E-sitan hamara. we sing that with pride and VANDA MATERAM with shame and guilt is withdrawn and where else will a majority community's festival need such high security, every yr last 40 yrs the Ganesha Immersion is marked by higher security cover more and more regions of Hindu-e-isitan policye, army stand by, we have long lost our soul, our nation and sense of pride and belonging and LEFT parties for sure is on the stan side. their constution in page 26 says cover up all attrocities of the Islamic rule in India for over a thoudand yrs but one act of retaliation to Godhara incident in just 3 districts of Gujrat not the whole state the entire left

controlled median inInda talk of it as thogh tere were no other riots Indira Gandhi and her left alliance are masters of such riots to suit theior electrol politics. I dont justify what happened before or after but we must not see any even selectively either.

BUT this is area I may not comment further unless all of us share it.

 

Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria > wrote: Dear Mr. Gopu,

I have been here in US for almost 40 years and I think your opinion about US is sadly mistaken. US economy is not based on arms sale. There is much more to that. Yes. You are definitely better off not being in Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia otherwise you would be able to post anything here. We Indians and particularly hindus are so naive when it comes to politics of power and that is why we have history of being ruled by all kinds of aggressors. Just stop and think for one minute. If India comes under Islamic rule (I think it is almost question of time given the attitudes of hindus), will you and your children enjoy the freedom that you have today? It is the stated goal of Islamic terrorists to bring the whole world under Islamic rule. Thank US for standing up and be willing to sacrifice lives of their young people to protect freedom and democracy everywhere. It is not really about oil or arms sale.

Regards,

Pratap

K Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

dar prashant ji,

I do agree that the west are open and technologically

very advanced, but the contribution to their science

and technology our Indians have played a major role,

because there u dont have caste,creed or divisions.

But however today US is the worst terroist in the

world, if at all oil prices have been jacking up like

this it is because of the policies of US their

invasion to Iraq, now Iran under their hit list. the

life of an average Iraqi was far better during the

regime of saddam hussein whereas today the same people

are worst sufferers. Because the economy of the US is

totally dependent on arms sales, for which they have

to create disturbances in the countries. We should be

very thankful that we are not in Iraq or Iran or

Lebanon or for that matter saudi arabia. I think we

are drifting from astrology related topic, but this is

also equally important because of our day to day life

is linked to the rulers of the world which totally

related to mundane astrology.

k.gopu

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopu ji,

 

These are sensitive and highly political issues, where anyone is

seldom completely right or wrong. It depends upon the media, we are

following for forming our bias or say "opinions".

 

USA certainly has positive role in fighting with international

terrorism. India is also one of the biggest victim of internationally

funded terrorism (just read the newspapers - and assess the effects it

has in J&K, where life is still not very normal; Mumbai bomb blast in

trains etc). All international communities (irrespective of region /

race / religion) are suffering from this, and all need to fight

against this destructive force.

 

I have lived / travelled extensively in Middle East and let me tell

you from my experience that - most of the "people" over there, are

very peace loving too. But It is the power (Oil Power), which has

corrupted them (including Saddam Hussain). Some of these military

rulers wants to hijack the peace for their personal agendas. People in

Iraq have really suffered in Saddam's military regime.

 

Oil prices are governed by multiple factors including cartel driven

agendas (OPEC is responsible). By defintion, bigger events will have

involvement of bigger forces too. USA has not progressed and become

big "economic" power for "Indians" there. Indians are serving to them

at some price (simple economic rules). They do not define US policies

and majority of them are not occupying key decision making positions.

So let us live in "myth" of US growing on Indian work force.

 

I agree with Pratap's snetiments that US economy is much larger than

"arms selling business". and Dear Gopu ji, It is not prudent to make

comment / criticing any country's policy, without being aware of the

facts (which we people do not get fully / timely) for any war like

decisions.

 

I am sure, all these international events / phenomenon can be analysed

from the charts of USA (recently there has been great discussions on

USA chart, on another forum). It will be interesting to watch

conjunction of saturn / ketu in magha constellation for global

conflicts.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of

knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

 

 

 

 

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Gopu,

>

> I have been here in US for almost 40 years and I think your

opinion about US is sadly mistaken. US economy is not based on arms

sale. There is much more to that. Yes. You are definitely better off

not being in Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia otherwise you would be able

to post anything here. We Indians and particularly hindus are so naive

when it comes to politics of power and that is why we have history of

being ruled by all kinds of aggressors. Just stop and think for one

minute. If India comes under Islamic rule (I think it is almost

question of time given the attitudes of hindus), will you and your

children enjoy the freedom that you have today? It is the stated goal

of Islamic terrorists to bring the whole world under Islamic rule.

Thank US for standing up and be willing to sacrifice lives of their

young people to protect freedom and democracy everywhere. It is not

really about oil or arms sale.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

> dar prashant ji,

> I do agree that the west are open and technologically

> very advanced, but the contribution to their science

> and technology our Indians have played a major role,

> because there u dont have caste,creed or divisions.

> But however today US is the worst terroist in the

> world, if at all oil prices have been jacking up like

> this it is because of the policies of US their

> invasion to Iraq, now Iran under their hit list. the

> life of an average Iraqi was far better during the

> regime of saddam hussein whereas today the same people

> are worst sufferers. Because the economy of the US is

> totally dependent on arms sales, for which they have

> to create disturbances in the countries. We should be

> very thankful that we are not in Iraq or Iran or

> Lebanon or for that matter saudi arabia. I think we

> are drifting from astrology related topic, but this is

> also equally important because of our day to day life

> is linked to the rulers of the world which totally

> related to mundane astrology.

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can India really progress with divisive politics (caste / religion)

and growing competitive threats from global economies? We (Indian

companies) are certainly losing to china as well, even for our local

markets.

 

Under current regime, Left is working against the national interest

(on behalf of communist government of china).

 

Let the economy be working - free from strikes, inproductivity and

many perils of communism. Indian work force is already incompetent one

and their lithargic attitude is killing the economy. On the top of

this, communist ideology coupled with meritless reservation policy is

harming us.

 

Now coming transit conjunction of Saturn / ketu will create more

unrest in India.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Pratap,

> thanks for the support on this aspect i wanted to but did not

their goal starting from Spain to Indonesia a crecent Pan Islamic union.

>

> as of today I feel India is a isecular Islamic nation not a

secular nation, we r reffered to by the other stan nation by

Hinddustan not as land of Hindus but a stan group Kirgistam,

Khazikastan, Uzbekistan, Turkmeinstan, Afhghanistan, Pakistan,

Hindustan, [ pronounced like Iqulal in sare jaha se aacha as Hindu-

E-sitan hamara. we sing that with pride and VANDA MATERAM with shame

and guilt is withdrawn and where else will a majority community's

festival need such high security, every yr last 40 yrs the Ganesha

Immersion is marked by higher security cover more and more regions of

Hindu-e-isitan policye, army stand by, we have long lost our soul,

our nation and sense of pride and belonging and LEFT parties for sure

is on the stan side. their constution in page 26 says cover up all

attrocities of the Islamic rule in India for over a thoudand yrs but

one act of retaliation to Godhara incident in just 3 districts of

Gujrat not the whole state the entire left

> controlled median inInda talk of it as thogh tere were no other

riots Indira Gandhi and her left alliance are masters of such riots

to suit theior electrol politics. I dont justify what happened before

or after but we must not see any even selectively either.

>

> BUT this is area I may not comment further unless all of us share it.

>

>

>

>

> Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

Dear Mr. Gopu,

>

> I have been here in US for almost 40 years and I think your

opinion about US is sadly mistaken. US economy is not based on arms

sale. There is much more to that. Yes. You are definitely better off

not being in Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia otherwise you would be able

to post anything here. We Indians and particularly hindus are so

naive when it comes to politics of power and that is why we have

history of being ruled by all kinds of aggressors. Just stop and

think for one minute. If India comes under Islamic rule (I think it

is almost question of time given the attitudes of hindus), will you

and your children enjoy the freedom that you have today? It is the

stated goal of Islamic terrorists to bring the whole world under

Islamic rule. Thank US for standing up and be willing to sacrifice

lives of their young people to protect freedom and democracy

everywhere. It is not really about oil or arms sale.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

> dar prashant ji,

> I do agree that the west are open and technologically

> very advanced, but the contribution to their science

> and technology our Indians have played a major role,

> because there u dont have caste,creed or divisions.

> But however today US is the worst terroist in the

> world, if at all oil prices have been jacking up like

> this it is because of the policies of US their

> invasion to Iraq, now Iran under their hit list. the

> life of an average Iraqi was far better during the

> regime of saddam hussein whereas today the same people

> are worst sufferers. Because the economy of the US is

> totally dependent on arms sales, for which they have

> to create disturbances in the countries. We should be

> very thankful that we are not in Iraq or Iran or

> Lebanon or for that matter saudi arabia. I think we

> are drifting from astrology related topic, but this is

> also equally important because of our day to day life

> is linked to the rulers of the world which totally

> related to mundane astrology.

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Kumar ji,

 

I can understand the sentiments you quoted from many web / media

channels; and agree that patriotism is missed out in entire theme.

Yes, communist supported social / political groups are opposing Vande

Matram ..which is highly unfortunate path we are heading at.

 

But who is responsible? Not people at large. It is the political

groups with vested interests, are creating such divisive patterns.

 

Please post India's chart and let us see, if India can grow under

these hindrances.

 

BTW, entire world is facing growing threats from international

terrorism and now Baluchistan incident has triggered bigger threat for

Oil Supply from Iran to India (through pipe line).

 

regards / Prafulla

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Pratap,

> thanks for the support on this aspect i wanted to but did not

their goal starting from Spain to Indonesia a crecent Pan Islamic union.

>

> as of today I feel India is a isecular Islamic nation not a

secular nation, we r reffered to by the other stan nation by

Hinddustan not as land of Hindus but a stan group Kirgistam,

Khazikastan, Uzbekistan, Turkmeinstan, Afhghanistan, Pakistan,

Hindustan, [ pronounced like Iqulal in sare jaha se aacha as Hindu-

E-sitan hamara. we sing that with pride and VANDA MATERAM with shame

and guilt is withdrawn and where else will a majority community's

festival need such high security, every yr last 40 yrs the Ganesha

Immersion is marked by higher security cover more and more regions of

Hindu-e-isitan policye, army stand by, we have long lost our soul,

our nation and sense of pride and belonging and LEFT parties for sure

is on the stan side. their constution in page 26 says cover up all

attrocities of the Islamic rule in India for over a thoudand yrs but

one act of retaliation to Godhara incident in just 3 districts of

Gujrat not the whole state the entire left

> controlled median inInda talk of it as thogh tere were no other

riots Indira Gandhi and her left alliance are masters of such riots

to suit theior electrol politics. I dont justify what happened before

or after but we must not see any even selectively either.

>

> BUT this is area I may not comment further unless all of us share it.

>

>

>

>

> Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

Dear Mr. Gopu,

>

> I have been here in US for almost 40 years and I think your

opinion about US is sadly mistaken. US economy is not based on arms

sale. There is much more to that. Yes. You are definitely better off

not being in Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia otherwise you would be able

to post anything here. We Indians and particularly hindus are so

naive when it comes to politics of power and that is why we have

history of being ruled by all kinds of aggressors. Just stop and

think for one minute. If India comes under Islamic rule (I think it

is almost question of time given the attitudes of hindus), will you

and your children enjoy the freedom that you have today? It is the

stated goal of Islamic terrorists to bring the whole world under

Islamic rule. Thank US for standing up and be willing to sacrifice

lives of their young people to protect freedom and democracy

everywhere. It is not really about oil or arms sale.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

> dar prashant ji,

> I do agree that the west are open and technologically

> very advanced, but the contribution to their science

> and technology our Indians have played a major role,

> because there u dont have caste,creed or divisions.

> But however today US is the worst terroist in the

> world, if at all oil prices have been jacking up like

> this it is because of the policies of US their

> invasion to Iraq, now Iran under their hit list. the

> life of an average Iraqi was far better during the

> regime of saddam hussein whereas today the same people

> are worst sufferers. Because the economy of the US is

> totally dependent on arms sales, for which they have

> to create disturbances in the countries. We should be

> very thankful that we are not in Iraq or Iran or

> Lebanon or for that matter saudi arabia. I think we

> are drifting from astrology related topic, but this is

> also equally important because of our day to day life

> is linked to the rulers of the world which totally

> related to mundane astrology.

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

>

>

>