Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Dear Ranjan ji I have no reason to disagree with you. Eventually all is karmic and as you indicated, without love, its own survival will have problems. regards / Prafulla , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Prafulla ji, > > There is no 'exception' involved! Or religion in my personal world- > view, short or long! > > A religion without LOVE shall cease to exist, it is but a matter of > time! We can just watch the hands on the clock and do not move it or > control it!! > > RR > > , "Prafulla Gang" > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ranjan ji, > > > > I agree with your philosophy / expressions, except to the > > justifications / perspective for the religious practioners > (primarily > > around Hinuism) - who are exploiting people, their sentiments, > > religious faith and - still wanting to be the good faces of > respective > > societies. Should these practiced be tolerated even for the sake of > > survival - or just because of their tall claims of knooooowing the > God? > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , "crystal pages" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prafulla -- > > > > > > Please remember this -- > > > > > > They are learning, just as we are ... > > > We that are here are all in the same boat and just because we may > > > feel often that we are on different sides and edges of the same > boat - > > > - > > > > > > MAKES it even more important that we think of survival and > sharing > > > and the boat in these karmic RAPIDS and not move in a group to > the > > > side that is portside or starboard, being oceanbound and what not! > > > > > > Together we shall fall and sink/drown or float -- together > > > <emphasis>!! > > > > > > I do not see the "DWELLERS" on the ISLAND OF PRAGMATIC REALITY, > our > > > *tax*-collectors -- waking up the Rescue team or throwing any > lines > > > that would pull us out of the OCEAN of UNCERTAINTY! > > > > > > Are you with US? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji, > > > > > > > > Very well said. > > > > > > > > I, perhaps could not express the distinction (between relgion > and > > > its > > > > practioners). It is not the rituals (or belief systems) itself, > I > > > was > > > > commenting about. They are "pure and acceptable" for each belief > > > > system / religion. I am not talking about rationalization of > some > > > of > > > > these systems; and agree that they can not be black or white in > it. > > > > These are based on faith, so rationalization (for common person > like > > > > me) may be little too far stretching of it. > > > > > > > > The gray area is its practioners (for each belief system) - > who, for > > > > commercial/ vested interests, misuses people's very "faith". > and in > > > > turn, creates lots of difficulties in the life of masses. For > > > Example > > > > - Various ritualistic charities to brahmins (cows etc) in India > has > > > > been the biggest cause of sufferings in rural India - where > people > > > > borrow money to meet such ritualistic needs (including on > deaths in > > > > the family). These have led to massive exploitation as well by > > > > "karamkandi" brahmans, in the name of religion. Religion never > > > becomes > > > > source or cause of exploitation, but its practioners do cause > some > > > of > > > > the wrong doings. Had these practices not surfaced in India - > > > perhaps, > > > > there was no need to religious diversions (like Jainism, > Budhism, > > > > Sikhisms, Arya Samaj etc). > > > > > > > > Purans / vedas / religious scriptures are not corrupted, its > > > > practioners are. Since "faith" itself is exploited, its > compliance > > > can > > > > becomes "gainful" for few. But those quality brahmans also do > not > > > > exist in numbers and those people who can understand the > rituals in > > > > true sense also have their own limitations in current yuga. > This > > > often > > > > leads to misunderstood compliances of the rituals, in most cases > > > > (which is more harmful). Just attend any yagya, and observe > > > the "short > > > > cuts" followed - in the name of conveniences. Charities are > > > collected, > > > > land mafias uses these sentiments to grab huge lands, people on > day > > > to > > > > day life are asked to do x/y/z for next life for the benefits > > > of "few" > > > > and so on. > > > > > > > > People know all these practices as well, but somehow "fear" > created > > > > for "next life", makes them vulnerable for exploitation. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > > > > > There will always be some 'mixing' between different belief > > > systems, > > > > > let us for instance take jyotish and rituals (karmakanda as > you > > > > > pointed out, though the rituals can further extend into grey > > > magic > > > > > and black magic etc). Individuals of different background > > > (religious, > > > > > cultural, educational etc) will have different tolerances or > > > > > acceptances of belief systems and the 'degree of acceptance' > > > > > or "degree of tolerance" would vary. No one would really be > > > > > completely rational ever by someone else's standards (this is > a > > > > > general statement, so no reader should take it personally). > > > > > > > > > > A rationalist would have a certain degree or perimeter of > belief > > > > > which may be rather restricted but more readily demonstrable > and > > > > > rather black and white. As we move into more 'accepting' ways > of > > > > > thinking of reality, the perimeter would grow and the horizon > > > would > > > > > become less and less sharp and more accpeting. > > > > > > > > > > When belief systems interact and clash, individuals begin to > > > fight, > > > > > because we all must hold on to our core beliefs in what we > > > consider > > > > > reality which is generally very personal though there are > enough > > > > > commonalities which lead to formation of groups. > > > > > > > > > > Beliefs are often at the very core of our sense of self and > touch > > > and > > > > > stir emotions, more in some, less in others, but they always > do. > > > > > Jyotish falls in one of these perimeters where reason and > beliefs > > > > > meet. It has enough contact with rational and logical > > > considerations > > > > > and thus appeals to 'rationalists' or those who like to > reason > > > things > > > > > out, and also has enough of a mystical/mysterious flavour to > > > appeal > > > > > to those whose acceptance of "reality" is more forgiving. > > > > > > > > > > Both of these groups are observers, not necessarily knowers > or > > > > > certainly not all knowing (hence humans!) and it is not a > > > question of > > > > > right or wrong, necessarily. Only God perhaps knows what is > true > > > and > > > > > what is not or right or wrong -- and I say that purely based > on > > > my > > > > > personal belief ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the belief system and has little to do with "Jyotish". > > > > > > Nevertheless, there is very thin line between correct (very > > > small > > > > > > population) and wrong ones (very large population). The > issue > > > is - > > > > > > knowledge of correct rituals, for its adherence..which is > > > missing? > > > > > > > > > > > > People are exploited by "karamkandi" bhramans (even on > events > > > like > > > > > > deaths), which raises the big question on "purity" of > pursuits? > > > Even > > > > > > the people who are "known" in different cities in India as > > > > > > authorities, are just making this their whole > time "business". > > > > > Almost > > > > > > each temple, priests, remedial astrologers (???) have made > a > > > big > > > > > mess > > > > > > of faith. No state or city is exception !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right ..we must do and shall not bother about > the > > > wrong > > > > > > ones. I wish I could claim (unlike most), that I know the > > > correct > > > > > Ones > > > > > > !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your observation is true to some people or some temples > who > > > are > > > > > > > doing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example, grahan is such a shadowy period that it is > > > believed > > > > > > > that even gods shall not have that grahan shadow fall on > > > them. > > > > > > > hence all temples are closed during the grahan period, > nay, > > > an > > > > > > > additional cloth cover is kept as an umbrella for the > divine > > > idol > > > > > to > > > > > > > protect from the grahan shadow. however, kalahasti > temple in > > > > > andhra > > > > > > > pradesh is keeping the temple not only open during the > grahan > > > > > time > > > > > > > but also doing special poojas AT MIDNIGHT (somewhat > strage) > > > and > > > > > > > collecting donations for these special poojas during the > > > grahan > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since all these are expected in kaliyuga, we shall keep > doing > > > > > what > > > > > > > is right without bothering too much about how others are > > > doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one has interacted with yogis - they will explicitly > > > tell > > > > > you > > > > > > > that, > > > > > > > > any of the good charities can be done any given day; > and so > > > is > > > > > > > > prayers. Not because that prayers / charities on > Eclipses > > > has > > > > > > > lesser > > > > > > > > relevance, but for the fact that, there are very "few" > > > people - > > > > > who > > > > > > > > knows / practices the correct and "puristic" methods of > > > > > performing > > > > > > > > them. and Such people spend most of their time in their > own > > > > > > > pursuits > > > > > > > > (they are too occupied in their "own karma"). Most in > the > > > lot > > > > > are > > > > > > > > interested in making money ("Dukandari") from event > driven > > > > > > > rituals, in > > > > > > > > every corner of the country on each of these occasions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > <angelgoel@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you suggest any particular item for daan > > > > > > > > > (donation) in this period or next day ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note:- After eclipse,next day (friday morning), do not > > > > > > > > > eat anything without taking bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot please. > > > > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Sir. > > > > > > > > > > > 7th Night itself start and same night ends itself, > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned eclipse would be only 1 hour 33 > > > > > > > > > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may say as per English date since it ends > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > 12.00 midnight > > > > > > > > > > > ie.next English calendar date starts, so will end > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > 8th morning > > > > > > > > > > > 1.08 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jut to clear any confusion, the lunar eclipse is > > > > > > > > > > > > between the intervening night of September 6th > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th? Right. > > > > > > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFERENCE LAHIRIS INDIAN EPHEMERIS FOR 2006 > > > > > > > > > > a.d. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eclipse begins on Thursday September 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > at night 23.35 and ends at same night on 25.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Total Duration One hour 33 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will be visible in India, of course no > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > is advised to view this.,except > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientist-astronomers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shri Pandit Arjunji has advised all devout > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious people, > > > > > > > > > > > > > of various religions (as added by me) are > > > > > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make full use > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these period, by taking name of their Isht > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devatas (Japa > > > > > > > > > > > > > and recitation), not to take water or food in > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > period, > > > > > > > > > > > > > sit on a seperate mat,not touch anything, have > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > bath after this > > > > > > > > > > > > > period is over,then of course go to sleep > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any Japa done near the ocean (Sea), near > > > > > > > > > > > religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > rivers (Ganga, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yamuna,Saraswati etc.), in temple, in places > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > > great masters have meditated and gained > > > > > > > > > > > enlightment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > also during period of Grahana (Eclipse), has > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > thousands fold > > > > > > > > > > > > > of results which normally would accrue to a > > > > > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > > > > if he does > > > > > > > > > > > > > at other times and other places.The exact > > > > > > > > > > figure > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > counts , > > > > > > > > > > > > > how many thousand fold also has been given in > > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras, I have > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally read this, but now cannot remember > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > and locate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefor Dear members take advantage of > > > > > > > > > > > oppurtunity > > > > > > > > > > > > > and increase > > > > > > > > > > > > > your spititual Bank balance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > > > > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Though the agenda of this forum, may not to "this" thread - but, It is not religion / faith / rituals being commented. It is the practioners, who keep their vested interests in "godly" projections - which are damaging the country. Take the case of any sect / religion - (offline, TV, Media or on Web), many may not disagree !! Anyone in their life, across the country is observing it and feeling it. How many of them can dare to put it, that can be another facet of the issue. regards / Prafulla Gang , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend > > there was an old story that once an athiest was caught by a monster > and unknowingly he prayed to god for rescue. god appears and asks > the athiest saying "you never believed god, why you remembered me > now". to this the athiest replies "come on god, a minute ago i did > not believe in monsters either". > > many highly educated scientists and doctors too turn to religion > only after they experience these things themselves. hundreds of > doctors doing selfless service at puttaparti is a testimony of > religion and belief for a doctor. > > last year when several doctors from best hospitals declared a child > in coma for six months to die and i brought her within 15 minutes > through diving healing, there is no cry for medicine, science or > reasoning. > > i have served many doctors and professors of IITs and most of them > believed religion and god only when things happen to them beyond > their reasoning. so the saying is correct that faith begins when > reason falters but in a positive spirit. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > , PRADEEP SAHAI > <sahaip123@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > FAITH BEGINS WHEN REASON FALTERS. > > Having said that for years I have been rebelling against the > picture of God painted before us since childhood.I saw my mother's > faithin santoshi ma's pooja. The story evoked more fear than solace. > If you do this then... syndrome. > > Contrary to this the belief of God as Mata-Pita was and the all > forgiving nature of God as nurturer could never somehoe take > precedence. > > Arm chair critisizing may be an intoxicating past time .It > cannot be an antidote. We need to teach our children the difference > between religion and practises. > > Regards > > Vatsala > > 9811072159 > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > Dear Rishi, > > > > Religion was never up for commerce, but it was always too passive, > > given its TAO nature, like a ball, a kanduk, up for the grabs by > this > > or that other faction! > > > > Sometimes kind souls tossed it up, at other times, tyrants did! > Like > > a basketball or cricket ball -- the object (religion) will give > > pleasure or pain -- to individuals and groups! > > > > What are we in the STADIUM for is perhaps humanity should start > > focusing on! > > > > About time!! > > > > RR > > > > , "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps, commercial religion was one of the oldest profession in > > > human history.It plays on human insecurities and desires, > amassing > > > unending profits. Cash flow never in red. > > > Only, like some other vocations,it is not listed , otherwise, it > > > would lead the stock market........... > > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji, > > > > > > > > Very well said. > > > > > > > > I, perhaps could not express the distinction (between relgion > and > > > its > > > > practioners). It is not the rituals (or belief systems) > itself, I > > > was > > > > commenting about. They are "pure and acceptable" for each > belief > > > > system / religion. I am not talking about rationalization of > > some > > > of > > > > these systems; and agree that they can not be black or white > in > > it. > > > > These are based on faith, so rationalization (for common > person > > like > > > > me) may be little too far stretching of it. > > > > > > > > The gray area is its practioners (for each belief system) - > who, > > for > > > > commercial/ vested interests, misuses people's very "faith". > and > > in > > > > turn, creates lots of difficulties in the life of masses. For > > > Example > > > > - Various ritualistic charities to brahmins (cows etc) in > India > > has > > > > been the biggest cause of sufferings in rural India - where > people > > > > borrow money to meet such ritualistic needs (including on > deaths > > in > > > > the family). These have led to massive exploitation as well by > > > > "karamkandi" brahmans, in the name of religion. Religion never > > > becomes > > > > source or cause of exploitation, but its practioners do cause > > some > > > of > > > > the wrong doings. Had these practices not surfaced in India - > > > perhaps, > > > > there was no need to religious diversions (like Jainism, > Budhism, > > > > Sikhisms, Arya Samaj etc). > > > > > > > > Purans / vedas / religious scriptures are not corrupted, its > > > > practioners are. Since "faith" itself is exploited, its > > compliance > > > can > > > > becomes "gainful" for few. But those quality brahmans also do > not > > > > exist in numbers and those people who can understand the > rituals > > in > > > > true sense also have their own limitations in current yuga. > This > > > often > > > > leads to misunderstood compliances of the rituals, in most > cases > > > > (which is more harmful). Just attend any yagya, and observe > > > the "short > > > > cuts" followed - in the name of conveniences. Charities are > > > collected, > > > > land mafias uses these sentiments to grab huge lands, people > on > > day > > > to > > > > day life are asked to do x/y/z for next life for the benefits > > > of "few" > > > > and so on. > > > > > > > > People know all these practices as well, but somehow "fear" > > created > > > > for "next life", makes them vulnerable for exploitation. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > > > > > There will always be some 'mixing' between different belief > > > systems, > > > > > let us for instance take jyotish and rituals (karmakanda as > you > > > > > pointed out, though the rituals can further extend into grey > > > magic > > > > > and black magic etc). Individuals of different background > > > (religious, > > > > > cultural, educational etc) will have different tolerances or > > > > > acceptances of belief systems and the 'degree of acceptance' > > > > > or "degree of tolerance" would vary. No one would really be > > > > > completely rational ever by someone else's standards (this > is a > > > > > general statement, so no reader should take it personally). > > > > > > > > > > A rationalist would have a certain degree or perimeter of > > belief > > > > > which may be rather restricted but more readily demonstrable > > and > > > > > rather black and white. As we move into more 'accepting' > ways > > of > > > > > thinking of reality, the perimeter would grow and the > horizon > > > would > > > > > become less and less sharp and more accpeting. > > > > > > > > > > When belief systems interact and clash, individuals begin to > > > fight, > > > > > because we all must hold on to our core beliefs in what we > > > consider > > > > > reality which is generally very personal though there are > > enough > > > > > commonalities which lead to formation of groups. > > > > > > > > > > Beliefs are often at the very core of our sense of self and > > touch > > > and > > > > > stir emotions, more in some, less in others, but they always > > do. > > > > > Jyotish falls in one of these perimeters where reason and > > beliefs > > > > > meet. It has enough contact with rational and logical > > > considerations > > > > > and thus appeals to 'rationalists' or those who like to > reason > > > things > > > > > out, and also has enough of a mystical/mysterious flavour to > > > appeal > > > > > to those whose acceptance of "reality" is more forgiving. > > > > > > > > > > Both of these groups are observers, not necessarily knowers > or > > > > > certainly not all knowing (hence humans!) and it is not a > > > question of > > > > > right or wrong, necessarily. Only God perhaps knows what is > > true > > > and > > > > > what is not or right or wrong -- and I say that purely based > on > > > my > > > > > personal belief ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the belief system and has little to do > with "Jyotish". > > > > > > Nevertheless, there is very thin line between correct > (very > > > small > > > > > > population) and wrong ones (very large population). The > issue > > > is - > > > > > > knowledge of correct rituals, for its adherence..which is > > > missing? > > > > > > > > > > > > People are exploited by "karamkandi" bhramans (even on > events > > > like > > > > > > deaths), which raises the big question on "purity" of > > pursuits? > > > Even > > > > > > the people who are "known" in different cities in India as > > > > > > authorities, are just making this their whole > > time "business". > > > > > Almost > > > > > > each temple, priests, remedial astrologers (???) have made > a > > > big > > > > > mess > > > > > > of faith. No state or city is exception !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right ..we must do and shall not bother about > > the > > > wrong > > > > > > ones. I wish I could claim (unlike most), that I know the > > > correct > > > > > Ones > > > > > > !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your observation is true to some people or some temples > who > > > are > > > > > > > doing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example, grahan is such a shadowy period that it is > > > believed > > > > > > > that even gods shall not have that grahan shadow fall on > > > them. > > > > > > > hence all temples are closed during the grahan period, > nay, > > > an > > > > > > > additional cloth cover is kept as an umbrella for the > > divine > > > idol > > > > > to > > > > > > > protect from the grahan shadow. however, kalahasti > temple > > in > > > > > andhra > > > > > > > pradesh is keeping the temple not only open during the > > grahan > > > > > time > > > > > > > but also doing special poojas AT MIDNIGHT (somewhat > strage) > > > and > > > > > > > collecting donations for these special poojas during the > > > grahan > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since all these are expected in kaliyuga, we shall keep > > doing > > > > > what > > > > > > > is right without bothering too much about how others are > > > doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one has interacted with yogis - they will > explicitly > > > tell > > > > > you > > > > > > > that, > > > > > > > > any of the good charities can be done any given day; > and > > so > > > is > > > > > > > > prayers. Not because that prayers / charities on > Eclipses > > > has > > > > > > > lesser > > > > > > > > relevance, but for the fact that, there are very "few" > > > people - > > > > > who > > > > > > > > knows / practices the correct and "puristic" methods > of > > > > > performing > > > > > > > > them. and Such people spend most of their time in > their > > own > > > > > > > pursuits > > > > > > > > (they are too occupied in their "own karma"). Most in > the > > > lot > > > > > are > > > > > > > > interested in making money ("Dukandari") from event > > driven > > > > > > > rituals, in > > > > > > > > every corner of the country on each of these occasions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > <angelgoel@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you suggest any particular item for daan > > > > > > > > > (donation) in this period or next day ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note:- After eclipse,next day (friday morning), do > not > > > > > > > > > eat anything without taking bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot please. > > > > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Sir. > > > > > > > > > > > 7th Night itself start and same night ends > itself, > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned eclipse would be only 1 hour 33 > > > > > > > > > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may say as per English date since it ends > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > 12.00 midnight > > > > > > > > > > > ie.next English calendar date starts, so will end > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > 8th morning > > > > > > > > > > > 1.08 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jut to clear any confusion, the lunar eclipse > is > > > > > > > > > > > > between the intervening night of September 6th > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th? Right. > > > > > > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFERENCE LAHIRIS INDIAN EPHEMERIS FOR 2006 > > > > > > > > > > a.d. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eclipse begins on Thursday September 7th > > > > > > > > > > > > > at night 23.35 and ends at same night on > 25.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Total Duration One hour 33 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will be visible in India, of course no > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > is advised to view this.,except > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientist-astronomers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shri Pandit Arjunji has advised all devout > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious people, > > > > > > > > > > > > > of various religions (as added by me) are > > > > > > > > > > > requested > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make full use > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these period, by taking name of their Isht > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devatas (Japa > > > > > > > > > > > > > and recitation), not to take water or food in > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > period, > > > > > > > > > > > > > sit on a seperate mat,not touch anything, > have > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > bath after this > > > > > > > > > > > > > period is over,then of course go to sleep > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any Japa done near the ocean (Sea), near > > > > > > > > > > > religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > rivers (Ganga, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yamuna,Saraswati etc.), in temple, in places > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > > great masters have meditated and gained > > > > > > > > > > > enlightment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > also during period of Grahana (Eclipse), has > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > thousands fold > > > > > > > > > > > > > of results which normally would accrue to a > > > > > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > > > > if he does > > > > > > > > > > > > > at other times and other places.The exact > > > > > > > > > > figure > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > counts , > > > > > > > > > > > > > how many thousand fold also has been given in > > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras, I have > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally read this, but now cannot remember > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > and locate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefor Dear members take advantage of > > > > > > > > > > > oppurtunity > > > > > > > > > > > > > and increase > > > > > > > > > > > > > your spititual Bank balance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > > > > > > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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