Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 namaskar, Dear Guru Raj, What sort of problem brings passionate grahas? Sanjaj Raj while talking about ninth from NL mentioned that only Guru is so pure to make only good there...are Surya and Moon also problematic in bhagyabhava in Rasi? Every sastra has own chapter dealing with conjunction and situation in ninth bhava..I think the fifth is also important and I suspect there will come a time when we will talk about fifth bhava in similar lines..and with same importance. waiting for revealance about that Regards Rafal Gendarz - Visti Larsen Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:00 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Rafal, Namaskar Yes, i thats why i mentioned 'Devi' as the devata for remedy of Saturn in ninth. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** [] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 07 September 2006 14:13 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart namah sivaya Dear Guruji, In previouos classes SanjayRaj also mentioned Moon as Remedy for Sani in ninth..as only Moon can handle this suffering.. I also notice change in the lattest mp3.. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Visti Larsen Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:35 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Prafulla, Namaskar To avoid the durbhagya of malefics placed in the ninth house, the following remedies are advised: Graha - Gemstone - Devata Rahu/Ketu- Yellow Sapphire - Guru Saturn - Ruby - Devi Mars - Pearl - Rudra/Shiva In addition the placements of Rajasic planets in the ninth can cause problems. The remedy is given below: Graha - Devata Mercury - Shiva Venus - Devi/Lakshmi The source of the information is the Atri-classes. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** ---------- [] On Behalf Of Prafulla Gang 07 September 2006 08:17 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart Dear Anurag ji and Visti ji, Little confusion to me - On this thread / similiar threads, for rahu in 9th; stone for guru was suggested earlier. So now, 9th lord's stone (Ruby for sun) or guru's stone (pukhraj) - which one is better choice for unlocking the hindrance to Arudha? regards / Prafulla Gang The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > > anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:03:04 -0000 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > Dear Members, > > The Ratna for the 9th Lord as recommended by Visti appears to be a > good choice. Freedom Cole had discussed my chart with me regarding > the 7th from the AL (11th June, 1972;10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > India). In this chart too, the 7th House has a lot of affliction > with the Amavasya Dosha and Shani placement. Freedom had illustrated > this with one or two charts. In essence, he laid a lot of importance > on the lord of the 7th House from the AL as it held the key to > removing the blockage from the 7th House from the AL. In Sanjay Ji's > chart, the 7th Lord is in 6th from Lagna and litigation and legal > issues coincided with the rise of the Arudha; it is also in the 9th > from the AL, showing foreign lands and support to the Arudha. Rahu > in the 7th from AL also shows what we have to pass through (Dwara > concept) in order for the image to emerge into the world. > > In the chart under scrutiny, like in my chart, Shani in the 7th from > AL, does not like to give way to the young and the image probably > does not rise till 34-36. In my case it is true. The 7th Lord in the > discussion chart is in the 5th from AL and 7th from Lagna. It's well > placed. It's Ratna can give good results. > > The Lord of the 7th House from the AL is important in this light, as > it holds the key to unlocking a 'blocked Arudha'. > > Regards, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > , "Visti Larsen" <visti > wrote: >> >> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| >> Dear Swee, Namaskar >> One way or the other, we have to make the ninth auspicious, as > otherwise >> there won't be an arudha in her life, let alone the effects of a > planet >> placed from it. Trying to mend Jupiters position in the sixth from > AL before >> looking at the ninth house, is like giving bandaid to a cancer > patient. >> So, if we are too picky about a gemstone, then atleast let us give > her a >> Guru mantra for Sadashiva. The prasiddha mantra is: Om BhurBhuvaH > Svah >> Sambasadashivaaya Namah| >> Since Moon should be remedied for Saturn, and Moon is the > strongest planet >> joined the fifth lord, we should add a devi mantra to this. > Alternatively a >> gemstone for the Sun can be used. >> Best wishes, >> *** >> Visti Larsen >> For services and articles visit: >> <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com >> *** >> >> >> _____ >> >> > [] On >> Behalf Of Swee Chan >> 06 September 2006 18:47 >> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Sourav, >> Namaste >> >> Thank you for your extensive thoughts. My point is not meant to go > into the >> chart extensively, but to actually point out the inconsistency of >> prescribing a yellow sapphire for Jupiter, being in 6th from AL. > This causes >> poverty if activated. (I should be careful with my words, as Visti > puts it.) >> >> BTW, did we overlook the 3 malefics aspecting the lagna? >> >> Love, >> >> Swee >> sweechan >> >> >> On 9/5/06 8:01 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> || Hare Raama Krsna || >> >> Dear Srimati Swee-ji, >> >> Namaskar. Kindly > permit me to >> clarify the objective of my last message. I wrote to Anuraag-ji, > as a point >> of discussion of course, as to why Yellow Sapphire/Topaz is > suggested for >> MKS Rahu in general. He suggested that Guru is karaka for the 9th > house and >> I tried to give my thoughts on that. I *didn't* discuss the chart > in >> question, just that point only. >> >> I just looked at the chart and can give a very brief few lines on > what I >> noticed. Lagna is in Dhanush (natural 9th house) and shows a > person of >> principles (especially as Surya, karaka for principles/dharma) is > aspecting. >> Lagnesha is Guru exalted in the 8th (hard work, overcoming a lot of >> obstacles, rina) and shows that the person is highly intelligent > and >> willingly takes up hard labor (8th lord is also exalted and > aspecting Guru). >> Now the person is not well-to-do and is facing an uphill life. And > that too >> out of own decision. >> >> Let us see HL to note what the personreally values in life and how > that will >> sustain her. HL is in Tula in the 11th house (5-11 axis) > indicating that the >> person can do anything for love or gains. Now which one will > dominate ? See >> that HL lord Shukra and lord of 5th house and 12-th house Mangal > are >> conjoined in the 6th house. Note that Mangal is strong in upachaya > house, >> and is with a friend Chandra in exaltation. Shukra is in MKS and > thus Mangal >> is stronger and shows that the value system of the native is > principally >> what she loves and she will go to much troubles to get it (see > Guru's >> position discussed). >> >> Next, the trouble is that three grahas are in MKS of which two are > benefic >> grahas and of which one is AK himself. AK is 7th lord and in MKS > and shows a >> weak spouse and one who cannot read (Budha !). Now notice that > there is a >> curse of spouse and of mother both related. Here 8th lord is > involved, a >> dusthana bhava is involved and lagnesha is involved via rasi > drishti. But AK >> is not involved. Current Moola Dasa is that of Shani and Shani is > in Mrityu >> Sashtiamsa. Shani lords 2nd house and family/finances will be in > jeopardy. >> >> Visti-ji said that Shani in 9th can make a person defensive about > others >> under attack but the informaiton given (that mother is > combative/protective) >> is about mother and not the native. Visti-ji kindly clarify. >> >> Rahu in MKS is not good in the least and is conjoining UL with > Shani, Gulika >> and Maandi and in the 7th from AL showing obstructions and needs > to be >> remedied. There is Kaala Sarpa Yoga (broken by Shani) and Mangal is >> aspecting increasing the maleficience of this combination. Further > Mangal is >> in 12-th from Badhakesha Budha in MKS and conjunct with lord of > 64th >> drekkana Surya in the Badhakasthana. Shani is aspecting also. > This would be >> wrath of a devata. Devata is seen from Budha-Surya combination in > dual signs >> represents a Vishnu Avataara Sri Raama. Arranging dace festivals > (kirtanas) >> will help a lot. Surya is 9th lord and hence going to a temple on > a regular >> basis and worshipping Lord is recommended. Budha is Vargottama and > in >> Punarvasu nakshetra owned by lagnesha Guru and hence marriage will > be strong >> and dasas indicate some difficulties. >> >> Further worship of Mahavidya for Shukra(with Mantram as 5th lord > joins) and >> propitiation of pratyadhi devata of 6th house Karaka Shani is very > much >> necessary to take the Shukra out of MKS position otherwise 11th > house will >> be blocked and also 7th house will not be satisfactory (its karaka > is >> Shukra). Vimsottari Rahu Dasa Shani antardasa is running and these > are >> marakas to UL (if this is the first UL). Shani has also been > transiting >> Karka rasi with Guru lord of 4th house which is 8th from 9th > house/UL and >> can cause stresses to father and marriage. Basically marriage is > going >> though a testing period. Father is not happy with marraige as 9th > lord is in >> 7th house and indicates disagreement with father at the time of > marriage. >> The combinations in the 7th from AL must also be remedied or else >> lagna-aruda will not be rising (Visti-ji referred to this). Rahu > with Shani >> in 9th house indicates that proper Shraddha needs to be done to the >> forefathers. Malefics in the 7th from AL need to be 'overcome'. > Guru is >> Lagnesha and Pith Pokhraj will be just fine. Shukra indicates > Ishtakaraka >> and conjoins AK (in the 2nd house from Navamsa Lagna) shows a > highly >> spiritual person. Worship of Lakshmi-Naaraayana must be done for > safe >> passage in life. Budha AK is in debility in 5th house of > Vimsaamsa. Debility >> of AK in Vimsaamsa shows quick resignation to Ishtadevata. >> >> Swee-ji and others, I would request to advise appropriate Mantras > to the >> native. I recommend use of Pith Pokhraj additionally: (i) It is > Lagna lord's >> stone and will strengthen her (ii) Guru is in Pushyami Nakshetra > lorded by >> Tamasik graha Shani and hence this stone will be good for Guru. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Sourav >> >> =============================================================== >> >> >> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha >>> >>> Dear Sourav, >>> Namaste >>> >>> My understanding of strengthening Guru and the 9th house is to > offer >> charity >>> to him. In this manner, Guru may hopefully bless the native of > its >> negative >>> vrischikha placement in the navamsa and conjoining an exalted > venus in >>> trimsamsa, which is in negative placement in the rasi. The > dispositor of >>> Guru is a waning malefic Moon ( that says much to Guru's > disposition) >>> aspected by Saturn. The fact of the matter is, Mars aspects the > 9th with >>> Rahu and Saturn. The natural atma is completely bombarded here. >>> Any more gemstone suggestion? <grin> >>> >>> Love, >>> >>> Swee >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/5/06 1:15 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: >>> >>>> || Hare Raama Krsna || >>>> >>>> Dear Sri Anuraag-ji, >>>> >>>> Namaskar. Nice to see you writing >>>> after a brief absence. Now in this matter, question is why not > ratna of >> Surya >>>> (Karaka for Dharma) or Budha who is opposing Rahu in > Kaalachakra ? I >> think the >>>> answer is that Rahu gives illusion to buddhi and 9th house > being >> manifestation >>>> of 5th (being 5th from 5th) strengthening of Guru is > important. Surya is >> more >>>> about dharma than about buddhi and Budha is not inimical to > Rahu and can >>>> co-operate with Rahu. Further Guru is bhagya-karaka and hence > can remove >>>> blockage of bhagya. Also notive that Rahu is in debility in > Guru's >> house, if >>>> not-so-weak in Surya's house and is infact > exalted/moolatrikona in >> Budha's >>>> house. Hence choice is Guru's stone. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Sourav >>>> >>>> > ================================================================ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> , "Anurag Sharma" > anuraagsharma27@ >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Prafulla Gang, >>>>>> >>>>>> Visti will correct me if there are other reasons in the > chart being >>>>>> discussed for the prescription, but generally speaking Rahu > in >>>>>> Marana Karaka Sthana can be countered with the Ratna for > Guru. Guru >>>>>> is Karaka for the 9th and opposed to the damaging > activities of Rahu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Wishes, >>>>>> Anurag Sharma. >>>>>> http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> >> ytransformation.blogspot.com >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Visti ji >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry for jumping into the thread. 9th can be activated > by using >>>>>> Pukhraj? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The difference between a successful person and others is > not a >>>>>> lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. >>>>>> ; > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> visti@ >>>>>>>>>> Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:39:57 +0200 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| >>>>>>>>>> Dear Swee, Namaskar >>>>>>>>>> Benefics in Sixth from AL do not cause Durbhagya, be > careful >>>>>> with your >>>>>>>>>> terminology. They cause peacefull attitude and the > person stays >>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>> fights. Did you know that Saturn in the ninth can > make the >> person >>>>>>>>>> vigilant >>>>>>>>>> and always eager to fight against opressors of other > people or >>>>>>>>>> themselves? >>>>>>>>>> Now she won't do that. Better to correct the ninth > house to >>>>>> begin with >>>>>>>>>> otherwise the arudha won't rise at all. >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> >> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> [ <]> >> @] >>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Swee Chan >>>>>>>>>> 06 September 2006 03:08 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti and Nimmi, >>>>>>>>>> Namaste >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When does your rule apply when it comes to wearing > the gemstone >>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> benefic in the 6th from AL causing durbhagya? >>>>>>>>>> From previous p osts, there's inconsistency in your > current >>>>>> suggestion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi, there are 3 planets that are in marana and the > lady is >> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> mahadasa of marana Rahu. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Love, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Swee >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/06 2:59 AM, "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| >>>>>>>>>> Dear Nimmi, Namaskar >>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention the Kala Sarpa Yoga, and the Rahu- > Shani yoga >>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> ninth >>>>>>>>>> causing durbhagya. This will simply block the persons > life >> until >>>>>> 45, if >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> remedied with the wearing of a yellow sapphire or the > likes. >>>>>>>>>> Alternatively >>>>>>>>>> ask the person to worship the Guru/Sadashiva. >>>>>>>>>> Best wi shes, >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> >> <http://srigaruda.com> com >>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > [ >>>>>>>>>> <]> >> <]> @] On >>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>> nimmiragavan >>>>>>>>>> 05 September 2006 10:10 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I came across the following chart which belongs to > the daughter >>>>>> of a >>>>>>>>>> friend of mine. I havent met the daughter yet, and > did not >> expect >>>>>>>>>> anything like this when I cast the chart. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 21st June 1979, 21:10 at London. 1 hour daylight > saving time. >> Asc >>>>>>>>>> around 6 degrees sagittarius. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The daughter has a dharma karmadhipadhi yoga in the > 7th house >> of >>>>>>>>>> gemini with vargottama mercury conjunct sun. There is > also a >>>>>> strong >>>>>>>>>> lagnadhi yoga with exalted moon and strong venus in > the 6th in >>>>>> taurus, >>>>>>>>>> and exalted jupiter in the 8th in cancer. All the > benefics are >>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>> strong. In addition, the rulers of the 6th, 8th and > 12th are in >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> 6th, 8th and 12th houses, though they are all strong - > except >> for >>>>>>>>>> mars. Also there is a strong solar yoga with the sun > being >>>>>> surrounded >>>>>>>>>> by strong benefics on both sides. All the benefics > are very >>>>>> strong in >>>>>>>>>> the chart. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I checked the navamsa and there does not appear to be > a major >>>>>>>>>> contradiction to the above principles. From her > mother, I >> learnt >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> daughter has (by choice) taken on quite a hard life. > Her mother >>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>> woman of principle and is very attached to her > daughter. >> Neither >>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> doing terribly well materially. But the mother is > always >> fighting >>>>>>>>>> other peoples battles and rescuing people. And she > says her >>>>>> daughter >>>>>>>>>> is a very good person. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would expect the daughter to have done extremely > well in >> life. >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps think this may start in her mid thirties when > the maha >>>>>> dasa of >>>>>>>>>> jupiter starts. But I am still very surprised at her > current >>>>>> situation >>>>>>>>>> given her chart, especially as her husb and cannot > read, and >> has >>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>> in trouble with the law. Her mother told me that when > her >>>>>> daughter was >>>>>>>>>> about 3 she had memories of a previous birth - the > memories >> were >>>>>>>>>> unlike those that a 3 yr old would know about and were >>>>>> distressing for >>>>>>>>>> the child. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any observations you have about this chart would be > of great >>>>>> interest >>>>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi Ragavam >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Namaskar Rafal Maharaj, The dharma bhava only flurishes fully when Satya is strong. Among the grahas only Guru is fully truthful... even Surya and Chandra get biased though they also represent truth. Thats why. Yes, the fifth bhava is very important. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com *** _____ [] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 07 September 2006 16:11 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart namaskar, Dear Guru Raj, What sort of problem brings passionate grahas? Sanjaj Raj while talking about ninth from NL mentioned that only Guru is so pure to make only good there...are Surya and Moon also problematic in bhagyabhava in Rasi? Every sastra has own chapter dealing with conjunction and situation in ninth bhava..I think the fifth is also important and I suspect there will come a time when we will talk about fifth bhava in similar lines..and with same importance. waiting for revealance about that Regards Rafal Gendarz - Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> @ <> Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:00 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Rafal, Namaskar Yes, i thats why i mentioned 'Devi' as the devata for remedy of Saturn in ninth. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com *** _____ @ <> [] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 07 September 2006 14:13 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart namah sivaya Dear Guruji, In previouos classes SanjayRaj also mentioned Moon as Remedy for Sani in ninth..as only Moon can handle this suffering.. I also notice change in the lattest mp3.. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> @ <> Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:35 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Prafulla, Namaskar To avoid the durbhagya of malefics placed in the ninth house, the following remedies are advised: Graha - Gemstone - Devata Rahu/Ketu- Yellow Sapphire - Guru Saturn - Ruby - Devi Mars - Pearl - Rudra/Shiva In addition the placements of Rajasic planets in the ninth can cause problems. The remedy is given below: Graha - Devata Mercury - Shiva Venus - Devi/Lakshmi The source of the information is the Atri-classes. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com *** _____ [] On Behalf Of Prafulla Gang 07 September 2006 08:17 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart Dear Anurag ji and Visti ji, Little confusion to me - On this thread / similiar threads, for rahu in 9th; stone for guru was suggested earlier. So now, 9th lord's stone (Ruby for sun) or guru's stone (pukhraj) - which one is better choice for unlocking the hindrance to Arudha? regards / Prafulla Gang The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > > anuraagsharma27@ <anuraagsharma27%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com > Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:03:04 -0000 > @ <%40> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > Dear Members, > > The Ratna for the 9th Lord as recommended by Visti appears to be a > good choice. Freedom Cole had discussed my chart with me regarding > the 7th from the AL (11th June, 1972;10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > India). In this chart too, the 7th House has a lot of affliction > with the Amavasya Dosha and Shani placement. Freedom had illustrated > this with one or two charts. In essence, he laid a lot of importance > on the lord of the 7th House from the AL as it held the key to > removing the blockage from the 7th House from the AL. In Sanjay Ji's > chart, the 7th Lord is in 6th from Lagna and litigation and legal > issues coincided with the rise of the Arudha; it is also in the 9th > from the AL, showing foreign lands and support to the Arudha. Rahu > in the 7th from AL also shows what we have to pass through (Dwara > concept) in order for the image to emerge into the world. > > In the chart under scrutiny, like in my chart, Shani in the 7th from > AL, does not like to give way to the young and the image probably > does not rise till 34-36. In my case it is true. The 7th Lord in the > discussion chart is in the 5th from AL and 7th from Lagna. It's well > placed. It's Ratna can give good results. > > The Lord of the 7th House from the AL is important in this light, as > it holds the key to unlocking a 'blocked Arudha'. > > Regards, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com > @ <%40> , "Visti Larsen" <visti > wrote: >> >> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| >> Dear Swee, Namaskar >> One way or the other, we have to make the ninth auspicious, as > otherwise >> there won't be an arudha in her life, let alone the effects of a > planet >> placed from it. Trying to mend Jupiters position in the sixth from > AL before >> looking at the ninth house, is like giving bandaid to a cancer > patient. >> So, if we are too picky about a gemstone, then atleast let us give > her a >> Guru mantra for Sadashiva. The prasiddha mantra is: Om BhurBhuvaH > Svah >> Sambasadashivaaya Namah| >> Since Moon should be remedied for Saturn, and Moon is the > strongest planet >> joined the fifth lord, we should add a devi mantra to this. > Alternatively a >> gemstone for the Sun can be used. >> Best wishes, >> *** >> Visti Larsen >> For services and articles visit: >> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com >> *** >> >> >> _____ >> >> @ <%40> > [@ <%40> ] On >> Behalf Of Swee Chan >> 06 September 2006 18:47 >> @ <%40> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Sourav, >> Namaste >> >> Thank you for your extensive thoughts. My point is not meant to go > into the >> chart extensively, but to actually point out the inconsistency of >> prescribing a yellow sapphire for Jupiter, being in 6th from AL. > This causes >> poverty if activated. (I should be careful with my words, as Visti > puts it.) >> >> BTW, did we overlook the 3 malefics aspecting the lagna? >> >> Love, >> >> Swee >> sweechan >> >> >> On 9/5/06 8:01 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> || Hare Raama Krsna || >> >> Dear Srimati Swee-ji, >> >> Namaskar. Kindly > permit me to >> clarify the objective of my last message. I wrote to Anuraag-ji, > as a point >> of discussion of course, as to why Yellow Sapphire/Topaz is > suggested for >> MKS Rahu in general. He suggested that Guru is karaka for the 9th > house and >> I tried to give my thoughts on that. I *didn't* discuss the chart > in >> question, just that point only. >> >> I just looked at the chart and can give a very brief few lines on > what I >> noticed. Lagna is in Dhanush (natural 9th house) and shows a > person of >> principles (especially as Surya, karaka for principles/dharma) is > aspecting. >> Lagnesha is Guru exalted in the 8th (hard work, overcoming a lot of >> obstacles, rina) and shows that the person is highly intelligent > and >> willingly takes up hard labor (8th lord is also exalted and > aspecting Guru). >> Now the person is not well-to-do and is facing an uphill life. And > that too >> out of own decision. >> >> Let us see HL to note what the personreally values in life and how > that will >> sustain her. HL is in Tula in the 11th house (5-11 axis) > indicating that the >> person can do anything for love or gains. Now which one will > dominate ? See >> that HL lord Shukra and lord of 5th house and 12-th house Mangal > are >> conjoined in the 6th house. Note that Mangal is strong in upachaya > house, >> and is with a friend Chandra in exaltation. Shukra is in MKS and > thus Mangal >> is stronger and shows that the value system of the native is > principally >> what she loves and she will go to much troubles to get it (see > Guru's >> position discussed). >> >> Next, the trouble is that three grahas are in MKS of which two are > benefic >> grahas and of which one is AK himself. AK is 7th lord and in MKS > and shows a >> weak spouse and one who cannot read (Budha !). Now notice that > there is a >> curse of spouse and of mother both related. Here 8th lord is > involved, a >> dusthana bhava is involved and lagnesha is involved via rasi > drishti. But AK >> is not involved. Current Moola Dasa is that of Shani and Shani is > in Mrityu >> Sashtiamsa. Shani lords 2nd house and family/finances will be in > jeopardy. >> >> Visti-ji said that Shani in 9th can make a person defensive about > others >> under attack but the informaiton given (that mother is > combative/protective) >> is about mother and not the native. Visti-ji kindly clarify. >> >> Rahu in MKS is not good in the least and is conjoining UL with > Shani, Gulika >> and Maandi and in the 7th from AL showing obstructions and needs > to be >> remedied. There is Kaala Sarpa Yoga (broken by Shani) and Mangal is >> aspecting increasing the maleficience of this combination. Further > Mangal is >> in 12-th from Badhakesha Budha in MKS and conjunct with lord of > 64th >> drekkana Surya in the Badhakasthana. Shani is aspecting also. > This would be >> wrath of a devata. Devata is seen from Budha-Surya combination in > dual signs >> represents a Vishnu Avataara Sri Raama. Arranging dace festivals > (kirtanas) >> will help a lot. Surya is 9th lord and hence going to a temple on > a regular >> basis and worshipping Lord is recommended. Budha is Vargottama and > in >> Punarvasu nakshetra owned by lagnesha Guru and hence marriage will > be strong >> and dasas indicate some difficulties. >> >> Further worship of Mahavidya for Shukra(with Mantram as 5th lord > joins) and >> propitiation of pratyadhi devata of 6th house Karaka Shani is very > much >> necessary to take the Shukra out of MKS position otherwise 11th > house will >> be blocked and also 7th house will not be satisfactory (its karaka > is >> Shukra). Vimsottari Rahu Dasa Shani antardasa is running and these > are >> marakas to UL (if this is the first UL). Shani has also been > transiting >> Karka rasi with Guru lord of 4th house which is 8th from 9th > house/UL and >> can cause stresses to father and marriage. Basically marriage is > going >> though a testing period. Father is not happy with marraige as 9th > lord is in >> 7th house and indicates disagreement with father at the time of > marriage. >> The combinations in the 7th from AL must also be remedied or else >> lagna-aruda will not be rising (Visti-ji referred to this). Rahu > with Shani >> in 9th house indicates that proper Shraddha needs to be done to the >> forefathers. Malefics in the 7th from AL need to be 'overcome'. > Guru is >> Lagnesha and Pith Pokhraj will be just fine. Shukra indicates > Ishtakaraka >> and conjoins AK (in the 2nd house from Navamsa Lagna) shows a > highly >> spiritual person. Worship of Lakshmi-Naaraayana must be done for > safe >> passage in life. Budha AK is in debility in 5th house of > Vimsaamsa. Debility >> of AK in Vimsaamsa shows quick resignation to Ishtadevata. >> >> Swee-ji and others, I would request to advise appropriate Mantras > to the >> native. I recommend use of Pith Pokhraj additionally: (i) It is > Lagna lord's >> stone and will strengthen her (ii) Guru is in Pushyami Nakshetra > lorded by >> Tamasik graha Shani and hence this stone will be good for Guru. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Sourav >> >> =============================================================== >> >> >> @ <%40> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: >>> >>> Jaya Jagannatha >>> >>> Dear Sourav, >>> Namaste >>> >>> My understanding of strengthening Guru and the 9th house is to > offer >> charity >>> to him. In this manner, Guru may hopefully bless the native of > its >> negative >>> vrischikha placement in the navamsa and conjoining an exalted > venus in >>> trimsamsa, which is in negative placement in the rasi. The > dispositor of >>> Guru is a waning malefic Moon ( that says much to Guru's > disposition) >>> aspected by Saturn. The fact of the matter is, Mars aspects the > 9th with >>> Rahu and Saturn. The natural atma is completely bombarded here. >>> Any more gemstone suggestion? <grin> >>> >>> Love, >>> >>> Swee >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/5/06 1:15 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: >>> >>>> || Hare Raama Krsna || >>>> >>>> Dear Sri Anuraag-ji, >>>> >>>> Namaskar. Nice to see you writing >>>> after a brief absence. Now in this matter, question is why not > ratna of >> Surya >>>> (Karaka for Dharma) or Budha who is opposing Rahu in > Kaalachakra ? I >> think the >>>> answer is that Rahu gives illusion to buddhi and 9th house > being >> manifestation >>>> of 5th (being 5th from 5th) strengthening of Guru is > important. Surya is >> more >>>> about dharma than about buddhi and Budha is not inimical to > Rahu and can >>>> co-operate with Rahu. Further Guru is bhagya-karaka and hence > can remove >>>> blockage of bhagya. Also notive that Rahu is in debility in > Guru's >> house, if >>>> not-so-weak in Surya's house and is infact > exalted/moolatrikona in >> Budha's >>>> house. Hence choice is Guru's stone. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Sourav >>>> >>>> > ================================================================ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> @ <%40> , "Anurag Sharma" > anuraagsharma27@ >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Prafulla Gang, >>>>>> >>>>>> Visti will correct me if there are other reasons in the > chart being >>>>>> discussed for the prescription, but generally speaking Rahu > in >>>>>> Marana Karaka Sthana can be countered with the Ratna for > Guru. Guru >>>>>> is Karaka for the 9th and opposed to the damaging > activities of Rahu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Wishes, >>>>>> Anurag Sharma. >>>>>> http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> >> ytransformation.blogspot.com >>>>>> @ <%40> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Visti ji >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry for jumping into the thread. 9th can be activated > by using >>>>>> Pukhraj? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The difference between a successful person and others is > not a >>>>>> lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. >>>>>> ; > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> visti@ >>>>>>>>>> Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:39:57 +0200 >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>>>>> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| >>>>>>>>>> Dear Swee, Namaskar >>>>>>>>>> Benefics in Sixth from AL do not cause Durbhagya, be > careful >>>>>> with your >>>>>>>>>> terminology. They cause peacefull attitude and the > person stays >>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>> fights. Did you know that Saturn in the ninth can > make the >> person >>>>>>>>>> vigilant >>>>>>>>>> and always eager to fight against opressors of other > people or >>>>>>>>>> themselves? >>>>>>>>>> Now she won't do that. Better to correct the ninth > house to >>>>>> begin with >>>>>>>>>> otherwise the arudha won't rise at all. >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> >> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>> [ <@ <%40> ]> >> @] >>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Swee Chan >>>>>>>>>> 06 September 2006 03:08 >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti and Nimmi, >>>>>>>>>> Namaste >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When does your rule apply when it comes to wearing > the gemstone >>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> benefic in the 6th from AL causing durbhagya? >>>>>>>>>> From previous p osts, there's inconsistency in your > current >>>>>> suggestion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi, there are 3 planets that are in marana and the > lady is >> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> mahadasa of marana Rahu. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Love, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Swee >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/06 2:59 AM, "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| >>>>>>>>>> Dear Nimmi, Namaskar >>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention the Kala Sarpa Yoga, and the Rahu- > Shani yoga >>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> ninth >>>>>>>>>> causing durbhagya. This will simply block the persons > life >> until >>>>>> 45, if >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> remedied with the wearing of a yellow sapphire or the > likes. >>>>>>>>>> Alternatively >>>>>>>>>> ask the person to worship the Guru/Sadashiva. >>>>>>>>>> Best wi shes, >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> >> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com >>>>>> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> >>>>>>>>>> *** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> > [ >>>>>>>>>> <@ <%40> ]> >> <@ <%40> ]> @] On >>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>> nimmiragavan >>>>>>>>>> 05 September 2006 10:10 >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I came across the following chart which belongs to > the daughter >>>>>> of a >>>>>>>>>> friend of mine. I havent met the daughter yet, and > did not >> expect >>>>>>>>>> anything like this when I cast the chart. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 21st June 1979, 21:10 at London. 1 hour daylight > saving time. >> Asc >>>>>>>>>> around 6 degrees sagittarius. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The daughter has a dharma karmadhipadhi yoga in the > 7th house >> of >>>>>>>>>> gemini with vargottama mercury conjunct sun. There is > also a >>>>>> strong >>>>>>>>>> lagnadhi yoga with exalted moon and strong venus in > the 6th in >>>>>> taurus, >>>>>>>>>> and exalted jupiter in the 8th in cancer. All the > benefics are >>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>> strong. In addition, the rulers of the 6th, 8th and > 12th are in >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> 6th, 8th and 12th houses, though they are all strong - > except >> for >>>>>>>>>> mars. Also there is a strong solar yoga with the sun > being >>>>>> surrounded >>>>>>>>>> by strong benefics on both sides. All the benefics > are very >>>>>> strong in >>>>>>>>>> the chart. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I checked the navamsa and there does not appear to be > a major >>>>>>>>>> contradiction to the above principles. From her > mother, I >> learnt >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> daughter has (by choice) taken on quite a hard life. > Her mother >>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>> woman of principle and is very attached to her > daughter. >> Neither >>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> doing terribly well materially. But the mother is > always >> fighting >>>>>>>>>> other peoples battles and rescuing people. And she > says her >>>>>> daughter >>>>>>>>>> is a very good person. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would expect the daughter to have done extremely > well in >> life. >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps think this may start in her mid thirties when > the maha >>>>>> dasa of >>>>>>>>>> jupiter starts. But I am still very surprised at her > current >>>>>> situation >>>>>>>>>> given her chart, especially as her husb and cannot > read, and >> has >>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>> in trouble with the law. Her mother told me that when > her >>>>>> daughter was >>>>>>>>>> about 3 she had memories of a previous birth - the > memories >> were >>>>>>>>>> unlike those that a 3 yr old would know about and were >>>>>> distressing for >>>>>>>>>> the child. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any observations you have about this chart would be > of great >>>>>> interest >>>>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi Ragavam >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar I understand - we are discussing natural malefic planets in 9th house. But when yogakarka occupies 9th house (e.g. tula lagna - shani in 9th; or karka lagna - mars in 9th) - will they also block the bhagya? regards / Prafulla Gang War is not the continuation of politics with different means, it is the greatest mass-crime perpetrated on the community of man. > > starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl > Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:10:32 +0200 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > namaskar, > Dear Guru Raj, > > What sort of problem brings passionate grahas? > > Sanjaj Raj while talking about ninth from NL mentioned that only Guru is > so pure to make only good there...are Surya and Moon also problematic in > bhagyabhava in Rasi? > > Every sastra has own chapter dealing with conjunction and situation in > ninth bhava..I think the fifth is also important and I suspect there will > come a time when we will talk about fifth bhava in similar lines..and > with same importance. waiting for revealance about that > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Visti Larsen > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:00 PM > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > Yes, i thats why i mentioned 'Devi' as the devata for remedy of Saturn > in ninth. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > > > > > [] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > 07 September 2006 14:13 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > namah sivaya > Dear Guruji, > > In previouos classes SanjayRaj also mentioned Moon as Remedy for Sani > in ninth..as only Moon can handle this suffering.. I also notice change > in the lattest mp3.. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Visti Larsen > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:35 PM > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Prafulla, Namaskar > To avoid the durbhagya of malefics placed in the ninth house, the > following remedies are advised: > Graha - Gemstone - Devata > Rahu/Ketu- Yellow Sapphire - Guru > Saturn - Ruby - Devi > Mars - Pearl - Rudra/Shiva > > In addition the placements of Rajasic planets in the ninth can cause > problems. The remedy is given below: > Graha - Devata > Mercury - Shiva > Venus - Devi/Lakshmi > > The source of the information is the Atri-classes. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > > > ---------- > > [] On Behalf Of Prafulla Gang > 07 September 2006 08:17 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > Dear Anurag ji and Visti ji, > > Little confusion to me - > > On this thread / similiar threads, for rahu in 9th; stone for guru > was suggested earlier. So now, 9th lord's stone (Ruby for sun) or guru's > stone (pukhraj) - which one is better choice for unlocking the hindrance > to Arudha? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack > of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > > > > > anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > > Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:03:04 -0000 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > Dear Members, > > > > The Ratna for the 9th Lord as recommended by Visti appears to be a > > good choice. Freedom Cole had discussed my chart with me regarding > > the 7th from the AL (11th June, 1972;10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > > India). In this chart too, the 7th House has a lot of affliction > > with the Amavasya Dosha and Shani placement. Freedom had > illustrated > > this with one or two charts. In essence, he laid a lot of > importance > > on the lord of the 7th House from the AL as it held the key to > > removing the blockage from the 7th House from the AL. In Sanjay > Ji's > > chart, the 7th Lord is in 6th from Lagna and litigation and legal > > issues coincided with the rise of the Arudha; it is also in the 9th > > from the AL, showing foreign lands and support to the Arudha. Rahu > > in the 7th from AL also shows what we have to pass through (Dwara > > concept) in order for the image to emerge into the world. > > > > In the chart under scrutiny, like in my chart, Shani in the 7th > from > > AL, does not like to give way to the young and the image probably > > does not rise till 34-36. In my case it is true. The 7th Lord in > the > > discussion chart is in the 5th from AL and 7th from Lagna. It's > well > > placed. It's Ratna can give good results. > > > > The Lord of the 7th House from the AL is important in this light, > as > > it holds the key to unlocking a 'blocked Arudha'. > > > > Regards, > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti > > wrote: > >> > >> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar > >> One way or the other, we have to make the ninth auspicious, as > > otherwise > >> there won't be an arudha in her life, let alone the effects of a > > planet > >> placed from it. Trying to mend Jupiters position in the sixth from > > AL before > >> looking at the ninth house, is like giving bandaid to a cancer > > patient. > >> So, if we are too picky about a gemstone, then atleast let us give > > her a > >> Guru mantra for Sadashiva. The prasiddha mantra is: Om BhurBhuvaH > > Svah > >> Sambasadashivaaya Namah| > >> Since Moon should be remedied for Saturn, and Moon is the > > strongest planet > >> joined the fifth lord, we should add a devi mantra to this. > > Alternatively a > >> gemstone for the Sun can be used. > >> Best wishes, > >> *** > >> Visti Larsen > >> For services and articles visit: > >> <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > >> *** > >> > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> > > [] On > >> Behalf Of Swee Chan > >> 06 September 2006 18:47 > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >> > >> > >> > >> Jaya Jagannatha > >> > >> Dear Sourav, > >> Namaste > >> > >> Thank you for your extensive thoughts. My point is not meant to go > > into the > >> chart extensively, but to actually point out the inconsistency of > >> prescribing a yellow sapphire for Jupiter, being in 6th from AL. > > This causes > >> poverty if activated. (I should be careful with my words, as Visti > > puts it.) > >> > >> BTW, did we overlook the 3 malefics aspecting the lagna? > >> > >> Love, > >> > >> Swee > >> sweechan > >> > >> > >> On 9/5/06 8:01 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> || Hare Raama Krsna || > >> > >> Dear Srimati Swee-ji, > >> > >> Namaskar. Kindly > > permit me to > >> clarify the objective of my last message. I wrote to Anuraag-ji, > > as a point > >> of discussion of course, as to why Yellow Sapphire/Topaz is > > suggested for > >> MKS Rahu in general. He suggested that Guru is karaka for the 9th > > house and > >> I tried to give my thoughts on that. I *didn't* discuss the chart > > in > >> question, just that point only. > >> > >> I just looked at the chart and can give a very brief few lines on > > what I > >> noticed. Lagna is in Dhanush (natural 9th house) and shows a > > person of > >> principles (especially as Surya, karaka for principles/dharma) is > > aspecting. > >> Lagnesha is Guru exalted in the 8th (hard work, overcoming a lot > of > >> obstacles, rina) and shows that the person is highly intelligent > > and > >> willingly takes up hard labor (8th lord is also exalted and > > aspecting Guru). > >> Now the person is not well-to-do and is facing an uphill life. And > > that too > >> out of own decision. > >> > >> Let us see HL to note what the personreally values in life and how > > that will > >> sustain her. HL is in Tula in the 11th house (5-11 axis) > > indicating that the > >> person can do anything for love or gains. Now which one will > > dominate ? See > >> that HL lord Shukra and lord of 5th house and 12-th house Mangal > > are > >> conjoined in the 6th house. Note that Mangal is strong in upachaya > > house, > >> and is with a friend Chandra in exaltation. Shukra is in MKS and > > thus Mangal > >> is stronger and shows that the value system of the native is > > principally > >> what she loves and she will go to much troubles to get it (see > > Guru's > >> position discussed). > >> > >> Next, the trouble is that three grahas are in MKS of which two are > > benefic > >> grahas and of which one is AK himself. AK is 7th lord and in MKS > > and shows a > >> weak spouse and one who cannot read (Budha !). Now notice that > > there is a > >> curse of spouse and of mother both related. Here 8th lord is > > involved, a > >> dusthana bhava is involved and lagnesha is involved via rasi > > drishti. But AK > >> is not involved. Current Moola Dasa is that of Shani and Shani is > > in Mrityu > >> Sashtiamsa. Shani lords 2nd house and family/finances will be in > > jeopardy. > >> > >> Visti-ji said that Shani in 9th can make a person defensive about > > others > >> under attack but the informaiton given (that mother is > > combative/protective) > >> is about mother and not the native. Visti-ji kindly clarify. > >> > >> Rahu in MKS is not good in the least and is conjoining UL with > > Shani, Gulika > >> and Maandi and in the 7th from AL showing obstructions and needs > > to be > >> remedied. There is Kaala Sarpa Yoga (broken by Shani) and Mangal > is > >> aspecting increasing the maleficience of this combination. Further > > Mangal is > >> in 12-th from Badhakesha Budha in MKS and conjunct with lord of > > 64th > >> drekkana Surya in the Badhakasthana. Shani is aspecting also. > > This would be > >> wrath of a devata. Devata is seen from Budha-Surya combination in > > dual signs > >> represents a Vishnu Avataara Sri Raama. Arranging dace festivals > > (kirtanas) > >> will help a lot. Surya is 9th lord and hence going to a temple on > > a regular > >> basis and worshipping Lord is recommended. Budha is Vargottama and > > in > >> Punarvasu nakshetra owned by lagnesha Guru and hence marriage will > > be strong > >> and dasas indicate some difficulties. > >> > >> Further worship of Mahavidya for Shukra(with Mantram as 5th lord > > joins) and > >> propitiation of pratyadhi devata of 6th house Karaka Shani is very > > much > >> necessary to take the Shukra out of MKS position otherwise 11th > > house will > >> be blocked and also 7th house will not be satisfactory (its karaka > > is > >> Shukra). Vimsottari Rahu Dasa Shani antardasa is running and these > > are > >> marakas to UL (if this is the first UL). Shani has also been > > transiting > >> Karka rasi with Guru lord of 4th house which is 8th from 9th > > house/UL and > >> can cause stresses to father and marriage. Basically marriage is > > going > >> though a testing period. Father is not happy with marraige as 9th > > lord is in > >> 7th house and indicates disagreement with father at the time of > > marriage. > >> The combinations in the 7th from AL must also be remedied or else > >> lagna-aruda will not be rising (Visti-ji referred to this). Rahu > > with Shani > >> in 9th house indicates that proper Shraddha needs to be done to > the > >> forefathers. Malefics in the 7th from AL need to be 'overcome'. > > Guru is > >> Lagnesha and Pith Pokhraj will be just fine. Shukra indicates > > Ishtakaraka > >> and conjoins AK (in the 2nd house from Navamsa Lagna) shows a > > highly > >> spiritual person. Worship of Lakshmi-Naaraayana must be done for > > safe > >> passage in life. Budha AK is in debility in 5th house of > > Vimsaamsa. Debility > >> of AK in Vimsaamsa shows quick resignation to Ishtadevata. > >> > >> Swee-ji and others, I would request to advise appropriate Mantras > > to the > >> native. I recommend use of Pith Pokhraj additionally: (i) It is > > Lagna lord's > >> stone and will strengthen her (ii) Guru is in Pushyami Nakshetra > > lorded by > >> Tamasik graha Shani and hence this stone will be good for Guru. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Sourav > >> > >> =============================================================== > >> > >> > >> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> > >>> Dear Sourav, > >>> Namaste > >>> > >>> My understanding of strengthening Guru and the 9th house is to > > offer > >> charity > >>> to him. In this manner, Guru may hopefully bless the native of > > its > >> negative > >>> vrischikha placement in the navamsa and conjoining an exalted > > venus in > >>> trimsamsa, which is in negative placement in the rasi. The > > dispositor of > >>> Guru is a waning malefic Moon ( that says much to Guru's > > disposition) > >>> aspected by Saturn. The fact of the matter is, Mars aspects the > > 9th with > >>> Rahu and Saturn. The natural atma is completely bombarded here. > >>> Any more gemstone suggestion? <grin> > >>> > >>> Love, > >>> > >>> Swee > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/5/06 1:15 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > >>> > >>>> || Hare Raama Krsna || > >>>> > >>>> Dear Sri Anuraag-ji, > >>>> > >>>> Namaskar. Nice to see you writing > >>>> after a brief absence. Now in this matter, question is why not > > ratna of > >> Surya > >>>> (Karaka for Dharma) or Budha who is opposing Rahu in > > Kaalachakra ? I > >> think the > >>>> answer is that Rahu gives illusion to buddhi and 9th house > > being > >> manifestation > >>>> of 5th (being 5th from 5th) strengthening of Guru is > > important. Surya is > >> more > >>>> about dharma than about buddhi and Budha is not inimical to > > Rahu and can > >>>> co-operate with Rahu. Further Guru is bhagya-karaka and hence > > can remove > >>>> blockage of bhagya. Also notive that Rahu is in debility in > > Guru's > >> house, if > >>>> not-so-weak in Surya's house and is infact > > exalted/moolatrikona in > >> Budha's > >>>> house. Hence choice is Guru's stone. > >>>> > >>>> Best wishes, > >>>> > >>>> Sourav > >>>> > >>>> > > ================================================================ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , "Anurag Sharma" > > anuraagsharma27@ > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Prafulla Gang, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Visti will correct me if there are other reasons in the > > chart being > >>>>>> discussed for the prescription, but generally speaking Rahu > > in > >>>>>> Marana Karaka Sthana can be countered with the Ratna for > > Guru. Guru > >>>>>> is Karaka for the 9th and opposed to the damaging > > activities of Rahu. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best Wishes, > >>>>>> Anurag Sharma. > >>>>>> http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > >> ytransformation.blogspot.com > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Visti ji > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sorry for jumping into the thread. 9th can be activated > > by using > >>>>>> Pukhraj? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The difference between a successful person and others is > > not a > >>>>>> lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > >>>>>> ; > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> visti@ > >>>>>>>>>> Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:39:57 +0200 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Swee, Namaskar > >>>>>>>>>> Benefics in Sixth from AL do not cause Durbhagya, be > > careful > >>>>>> with your > >>>>>>>>>> terminology. They cause peacefull attitude and the > > person stays > >>>>>> out of > >>>>>>>>>> fights. Did you know that Saturn in the ninth can > > make the > >> person > >>>>>>>>>> vigilant > >>>>>>>>>> and always eager to fight against opressors of other > > people or > >>>>>>>>>> themselves? > >>>>>>>>>> Now she won't do that. Better to correct the ninth > > house to > >>>>>> begin with > >>>>>>>>>> otherwise the arudha won't rise at all. > >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: > >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> [ <]> > >> @] > >>>>>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Swee Chan > >>>>>>>>>> 06 September 2006 03:08 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti and Nimmi, > >>>>>>>>>> Namaste > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> When does your rule apply when it comes to wearing > > the gemstone > >>>>>> which is > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> benefic in the 6th from AL causing durbhagya? > >>>>>>>>>> From previous p osts, there's inconsistency in your > > current > >>>>>> suggestion. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi, there are 3 planets that are in marana and the > > lady is > >> in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> mahadasa of marana Rahu. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Love, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Swee > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/06 2:59 AM, "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Nimmi, Namaskar > >>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention the Kala Sarpa Yoga, and the Rahu- > > Shani yoga > >>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>>>> causing durbhagya. This will simply block the persons > > life > >> until > >>>>>> 45, if > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> remedied with the wearing of a yellow sapphire or the > > likes. > >>>>>>>>>> Alternatively > >>>>>>>>>> ask the person to worship the Guru/Sadashiva. > >>>>>>>>>> Best wi shes, > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: > >>>>>>>>>> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> > >> <http://srigaruda.com> com > >>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > [ > >>>>>>>>>> <]> > >> <]> @] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>>>>>> nimmiragavan > >>>>>>>>>> 05 September 2006 10:10 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I came across the following chart which belongs to > > the daughter > >>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>>>> friend of mine. I havent met the daughter yet, and > > did not > >> expect > >>>>>>>>>> anything like this when I cast the chart. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 21st June 1979, 21:10 at London. 1 hour daylight > > saving time. > >> Asc > >>>>>>>>>> around 6 degrees sagittarius. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The daughter has a dharma karmadhipadhi yoga in the > > 7th house > >> of > >>>>>>>>>> gemini with vargottama mercury conjunct sun. There is > > also a > >>>>>> strong > >>>>>>>>>> lagnadhi yoga with exalted moon and strong venus in > > the 6th in > >>>>>> taurus, > >>>>>>>>>> and exalted jupiter in the 8th in cancer. All the > > benefics are > >>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>> strong. In addition, the rulers of the 6th, 8th and > > 12th are in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> 6th, 8th and 12th houses, though they are all strong - > > except > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> mars. Also there is a strong solar yoga with the sun > > being > >>>>>> surrounded > >>>>>>>>>> by strong benefics on both sides. All the benefics > > are very > >>>>>> strong in > >>>>>>>>>> the chart. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I checked the navamsa and there does not appear to be > > a major > >>>>>>>>>> contradiction to the above principles. From her > > mother, I > >> learnt > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> daughter has (by choice) taken on quite a hard life. > > Her mother > >>>>>> is a > >>>>>>>>>> woman of principle and is very attached to her > > daughter. > >> Neither > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> doing terribly well materially. But the mother is > > always > >> fighting > >>>>>>>>>> other peoples battles and rescuing people. And she > > says her > >>>>>> daughter > >>>>>>>>>> is a very good person. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I would expect the daughter to have done extremely > > well in > >> life. > >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps think this may start in her mid thirties when > > the maha > >>>>>> dasa of > >>>>>>>>>> jupiter starts. But I am still very surprised at her > > current > >>>>>> situation > >>>>>>>>>> given her chart, especially as her husb and cannot > > read, and > >> has > >>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>> in trouble with the law. Her mother told me that when > > her > >>>>>> daughter was > >>>>>>>>>> about 3 she had memories of a previous birth - the > > memories > >> were > >>>>>>>>>> unlike those that a 3 yr old would know about and were > >>>>>> distressing for > >>>>>>>>>> the child. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Any observations you have about this chart would be > > of great > >>>>>> interest > >>>>>>>>>> to me. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> With best regards, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi Ragavam > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Dear Prafulla, Benefics gives bhagya, malefics block it. Rest are details. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Prafulla Gang Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:50 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar I understand - we are discussing natural malefic planets in 9th house. But when yogakarka occupies 9th house (e.g. tula lagna - shani in 9th; or karka lagna - mars in 9th) - will they also block the bhagya? regards / Prafulla Gang War is not the continuation of politics with different means, it is the greatest mass-crime perpetrated on the community of man. > > starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl > Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:10:32 +0200 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > namaskar, > Dear Guru Raj, > > What sort of problem brings passionate grahas? > > Sanjaj Raj while talking about ninth from NL mentioned that only Guru is > so pure to make only good there...are Surya and Moon also problematic in > bhagyabhava in Rasi? > > Every sastra has own chapter dealing with conjunction and situation in > ninth bhava..I think the fifth is also important and I suspect there will > come a time when we will talk about fifth bhava in similar lines..and > with same importance. waiting for revealance about that > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Visti Larsen > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:00 PM > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > Yes, i thats why i mentioned 'Devi' as the devata for remedy of Saturn > in ninth. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > > > ------------------------- > > [] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > 07 September 2006 14:13 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > namah sivaya > Dear Guruji, > > In previouos classes SanjayRaj also mentioned Moon as Remedy for Sani > in ninth..as only Moon can handle this suffering.. I also notice change > in the lattest mp3.. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Visti Larsen > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:35 PM > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Prafulla, Namaskar > To avoid the durbhagya of malefics placed in the ninth house, the > following remedies are advised: > Graha - Gemstone - Devata > Rahu/Ketu- Yellow Sapphire - Guru > Saturn - Ruby - Devi > Mars - Pearl - Rudra/Shiva > > In addition the placements of Rajasic planets in the ninth can cause > problems. The remedy is given below: > Graha - Devata > Mercury - Shiva > Venus - Devi/Lakshmi > > The source of the information is the Atri-classes. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > > > ------------------------- > > [] On Behalf Of Prafulla Gang > 07 September 2006 08:17 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > Dear Anurag ji and Visti ji, > > Little confusion to me - > > On this thread / similiar threads, for rahu in 9th; stone for guru > was suggested earlier. So now, 9th lord's stone (Ruby for sun) or guru's > stone (pukhraj) - which one is better choice for unlocking the hindrance > to Arudha? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack > of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > > > > > anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > > Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:03:04 -0000 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > Dear Members, > > > > The Ratna for the 9th Lord as recommended by Visti appears to be a > > good choice. Freedom Cole had discussed my chart with me regarding > > the 7th from the AL (11th June, 1972;10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > > India). In this chart too, the 7th House has a lot of affliction > > with the Amavasya Dosha and Shani placement. Freedom had > illustrated > > this with one or two charts. In essence, he laid a lot of > importance > > on the lord of the 7th House from the AL as it held the key to > > removing the blockage from the 7th House from the AL. In Sanjay > Ji's > > chart, the 7th Lord is in 6th from Lagna and litigation and legal > > issues coincided with the rise of the Arudha; it is also in the 9th > > from the AL, showing foreign lands and support to the Arudha. Rahu > > in the 7th from AL also shows what we have to pass through (Dwara > > concept) in order for the image to emerge into the world. > > > > In the chart under scrutiny, like in my chart, Shani in the 7th > from > > AL, does not like to give way to the young and the image probably > > does not rise till 34-36. In my case it is true. The 7th Lord in > the > > discussion chart is in the 5th from AL and 7th from Lagna. It's > well > > placed. It's Ratna can give good results. > > > > The Lord of the 7th House from the AL is important in this light, > as > > it holds the key to unlocking a 'blocked Arudha'. > > > > Regards, > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti > > wrote: > >> > >> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar > >> One way or the other, we have to make the ninth auspicious, as > > otherwise > >> there won't be an arudha in her life, let alone the effects of a > > planet > >> placed from it. Trying to mend Jupiters position in the sixth from > > AL before > >> looking at the ninth house, is like giving bandaid to a cancer > > patient. > >> So, if we are too picky about a gemstone, then atleast let us give > > her a > >> Guru mantra for Sadashiva. The prasiddha mantra is: Om BhurBhuvaH > > Svah > >> Sambasadashivaaya Namah| > >> Since Moon should be remedied for Saturn, and Moon is the > > strongest planet > >> joined the fifth lord, we should add a devi mantra to this. > > Alternatively a > >> gemstone for the Sun can be used. > >> Best wishes, > >> *** > >> Visti Larsen > >> For services and articles visit: > >> <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > >> *** > >> > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> > > [] On > >> Behalf Of Swee Chan > >> 06 September 2006 18:47 > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >> > >> > >> > >> Jaya Jagannatha > >> > >> Dear Sourav, > >> Namaste > >> > >> Thank you for your extensive thoughts. My point is not meant to go > > into the > >> chart extensively, but to actually point out the inconsistency of > >> prescribing a yellow sapphire for Jupiter, being in 6th from AL. > > This causes > >> poverty if activated. (I should be careful with my words, as Visti > > puts it.) > >> > >> BTW, did we overlook the 3 malefics aspecting the lagna? > >> > >> Love, > >> > >> Swee > >> sweechan > >> > >> > >> On 9/5/06 8:01 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> || Hare Raama Krsna || > >> > >> Dear Srimati Swee-ji, > >> > >> Namaskar. Kindly > > permit me to > >> clarify the objective of my last message. I wrote to Anuraag-ji, > > as a point > >> of discussion of course, as to why Yellow Sapphire/Topaz is > > suggested for > >> MKS Rahu in general. He suggested that Guru is karaka for the 9th > > house and > >> I tried to give my thoughts on that. I *didn't* discuss the chart > > in > >> question, just that point only. > >> > >> I just looked at the chart and can give a very brief few lines on > > what I > >> noticed. Lagna is in Dhanush (natural 9th house) and shows a > > person of > >> principles (especially as Surya, karaka for principles/dharma) is > > aspecting. > >> Lagnesha is Guru exalted in the 8th (hard work, overcoming a lot > of > >> obstacles, rina) and shows that the person is highly intelligent > > and > >> willingly takes up hard labor (8th lord is also exalted and > > aspecting Guru). > >> Now the person is not well-to-do and is facing an uphill life. And > > that too > >> out of own decision. > >> > >> Let us see HL to note what the personreally values in life and how > > that will > >> sustain her. HL is in Tula in the 11th house (5-11 axis) > > indicating that the > >> person can do anything for love or gains. Now which one will > > dominate ? See > >> that HL lord Shukra and lord of 5th house and 12-th house Mangal > > are > >> conjoined in the 6th house. Note that Mangal is strong in upachaya > > house, > >> and is with a friend Chandra in exaltation. Shukra is in MKS and > > thus Mangal > >> is stronger and shows that the value system of the native is > > principally > >> what she loves and she will go to much troubles to get it (see > > Guru's > >> position discussed). > >> > >> Next, the trouble is that three grahas are in MKS of which two are > > benefic > >> grahas and of which one is AK himself. AK is 7th lord and in MKS > > and shows a > >> weak spouse and one who cannot read (Budha !). Now notice that > > there is a > >> curse of spouse and of mother both related. Here 8th lord is > > involved, a > >> dusthana bhava is involved and lagnesha is involved via rasi > > drishti. But AK > >> is not involved. Current Moola Dasa is that of Shani and Shani is > > in Mrityu > >> Sashtiamsa. Shani lords 2nd house and family/finances will be in > > jeopardy. > >> > >> Visti-ji said that Shani in 9th can make a person defensive about > > others > >> under attack but the informaiton given (that mother is > > combative/protective) > >> is about mother and not the native. Visti-ji kindly clarify. > >> > >> Rahu in MKS is not good in the least and is conjoining UL with > > Shani, Gulika > >> and Maandi and in the 7th from AL showing obstructions and needs > > to be > >> remedied. There is Kaala Sarpa Yoga (broken by Shani) and Mangal > is > >> aspecting increasing the maleficience of this combination. Further > > Mangal is > >> in 12-th from Badhakesha Budha in MKS and conjunct with lord of > > 64th > >> drekkana Surya in the Badhakasthana. Shani is aspecting also. > > This would be > >> wrath of a devata. Devata is seen from Budha-Surya combination in > > dual signs > >> represents a Vishnu Avataara Sri Raama. Arranging dace festivals > > (kirtanas) > >> will help a lot. Surya is 9th lord and hence going to a temple on > > a regular > >> basis and worshipping Lord is recommended. Budha is Vargottama and > > in > >> Punarvasu nakshetra owned by lagnesha Guru and hence marriage will > > be strong > >> and dasas indicate some difficulties. > >> > >> Further worship of Mahavidya for Shukra(with Mantram as 5th lord > > joins) and > >> propitiation of pratyadhi devata of 6th house Karaka Shani is very > > much > >> necessary to take the Shukra out of MKS position otherwise 11th > > house will > >> be blocked and also 7th house will not be satisfactory (its karaka > > is > >> Shukra). Vimsottari Rahu Dasa Shani antardasa is running and these > > are > >> marakas to UL (if this is the first UL). Shani has also been > > transiting > >> Karka rasi with Guru lord of 4th house which is 8th from 9th > > house/UL and > >> can cause stresses to father and marriage. Basically marriage is > > going > >> though a testing period. Father is not happy with marraige as 9th > > lord is in > >> 7th house and indicates disagreement with father at the time of > > marriage. > >> The combinations in the 7th from AL must also be remedied or else > >> lagna-aruda will not be rising (Visti-ji referred to this). Rahu > > with Shani > >> in 9th house indicates that proper Shraddha needs to be done to > the > >> forefathers. Malefics in the 7th from AL need to be 'overcome'. > > Guru is > >> Lagnesha and Pith Pokhraj will be just fine. Shukra indicates > > Ishtakaraka > >> and conjoins AK (in the 2nd house from Navamsa Lagna) shows a > > highly > >> spiritual person. Worship of Lakshmi-Naaraayana must be done for > > safe > >> passage in life. Budha AK is in debility in 5th house of > > Vimsaamsa. Debility > >> of AK in Vimsaamsa shows quick resignation to Ishtadevata. > >> > >> Swee-ji and others, I would request to advise appropriate Mantras > > to the > >> native. I recommend use of Pith Pokhraj additionally: (i) It is > > Lagna lord's > >> stone and will strengthen her (ii) Guru is in Pushyami Nakshetra > > lorded by > >> Tamasik graha Shani and hence this stone will be good for Guru. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Sourav > >> > >> =============================================================== > >> > >> > >> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>> > >>> Dear Sourav, > >>> Namaste > >>> > >>> My understanding of strengthening Guru and the 9th house is to > > offer > >> charity > >>> to him. In this manner, Guru may hopefully bless the native of > > its > >> negative > >>> vrischikha placement in the navamsa and conjoining an exalted > > venus in > >>> trimsamsa, which is in negative placement in the rasi. The > > dispositor of > >>> Guru is a waning malefic Moon ( that says much to Guru's > > disposition) > >>> aspected by Saturn. The fact of the matter is, Mars aspects the > > 9th with > >>> Rahu and Saturn. The natural atma is completely bombarded here. > >>> Any more gemstone suggestion? <grin> > >>> > >>> Love, > >>> > >>> Swee > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/5/06 1:15 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > >>> > >>>> || Hare Raama Krsna || > >>>> > >>>> Dear Sri Anuraag-ji, > >>>> > >>>> Namaskar. Nice to see you writing > >>>> after a brief absence. Now in this matter, question is why not > > ratna of > >> Surya > >>>> (Karaka for Dharma) or Budha who is opposing Rahu in > > Kaalachakra ? I > >> think the > >>>> answer is that Rahu gives illusion to buddhi and 9th house > > being > >> manifestation > >>>> of 5th (being 5th from 5th) strengthening of Guru is > > important. Surya is > >> more > >>>> about dharma than about buddhi and Budha is not inimical to > > Rahu and can > >>>> co-operate with Rahu. Further Guru is bhagya-karaka and hence > > can remove > >>>> blockage of bhagya. Also notive that Rahu is in debility in > > Guru's > >> house, if > >>>> not-so-weak in Surya's house and is infact > > exalted/moolatrikona in > >> Budha's > >>>> house. Hence choice is Guru's stone. > >>>> > >>>> Best wishes, > >>>> > >>>> Sourav > >>>> > >>>> > > ================================================================ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , "Anurag Sharma" > > anuraagsharma27@ > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Prafulla Gang, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Visti will correct me if there are other reasons in the > > chart being > >>>>>> discussed for the prescription, but generally speaking Rahu > > in > >>>>>> Marana Karaka Sthana can be countered with the Ratna for > > Guru. Guru > >>>>>> is Karaka for the 9th and opposed to the damaging > > activities of Rahu. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best Wishes, > >>>>>> Anurag Sharma. > >>>>>> http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > >> ytransformation.blogspot.com > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Visti ji > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sorry for jumping into the thread. 9th can be activated > > by using > >>>>>> Pukhraj? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The difference between a successful person and others is > > not a > >>>>>> lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > >>>>>> ; > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> visti@ > >>>>>>>>>> Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:39:57 +0200 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Swee, Namaskar > >>>>>>>>>> Benefics in Sixth from AL do not cause Durbhagya, be > > careful > >>>>>> with your > >>>>>>>>>> terminology. They cause peacefull attitude and the > > person stays > >>>>>> out of > >>>>>>>>>> fights. Did you know that Saturn in the ninth can > > make the > >> person > >>>>>>>>>> vigilant > >>>>>>>>>> and always eager to fight against opressors of other > > people or > >>>>>>>>>> themselves? > >>>>>>>>>> Now she won't do that. Better to correct the ninth > > house to > >>>>>> begin with > >>>>>>>>>> otherwise the arudha won't rise at all. > >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: > >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> [ <]> > >> @] > >>>>>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Swee Chan > >>>>>>>>>> 06 September 2006 03:08 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti and Nimmi, > >>>>>>>>>> Namaste > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> When does your rule apply when it comes to wearing > > the gemstone > >>>>>> which is > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> benefic in the 6th from AL causing durbhagya? > >>>>>>>>>> From previous p osts, there's inconsistency in your > > current > >>>>>> suggestion. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi, there are 3 planets that are in marana and the > > lady is > >> in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> mahadasa of marana Rahu. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Love, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Swee > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/06 2:59 AM, "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Nimmi, Namaskar > >>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention the Kala Sarpa Yoga, and the Rahu- > > Shani yoga > >>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>>>> causing durbhagya. This will simply block the persons > > life > >> until > >>>>>> 45, if > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> remedied with the wearing of a yellow sapphire or the > > likes. > >>>>>>>>>> Alternatively > >>>>>>>>>> ask the person to worship the Guru/Sadashiva. > >>>>>>>>>> Best wi shes, > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: > >>>>>>>>>> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> > >> <http://srigaruda.com> com > >>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>>>> *** > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > [ > >>>>>>>>>> <]> > >> <]> @] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>>>>>> nimmiragavan > >>>>>>>>>> 05 September 2006 10:10 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I came across the following chart which belongs to > > the daughter > >>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>>>> friend of mine. I havent met the daughter yet, and > > did not > >> expect > >>>>>>>>>> anything like this when I cast the chart. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 21st June 1979, 21:10 at London. 1 hour daylight > > saving time. > >> Asc > >>>>>>>>>> around 6 degrees sagittarius. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The daughter has a dharma karmadhipadhi yoga in the > > 7th house > >> of > >>>>>>>>>> gemini with vargottama mercury conjunct sun. There is > > also a > >>>>>> strong > >>>>>>>>>> lagnadhi yoga with exalted moon and strong venus in > > the 6th in > >>>>>> taurus, > >>>>>>>>>> and exalted jupiter in the 8th in cancer. All the > > benefics are > >>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>> strong. In addition, the rulers of the 6th, 8th and > > 12th are in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> 6th, 8th and 12th houses, though they are all strong - > > except > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> mars. Also there is a strong solar yoga with the sun > > being > >>>>>> surrounded > >>>>>>>>>> by strong benefics on both sides. All the benefics > > are very > >>>>>> strong in > >>>>>>>>>> the chart. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I checked the navamsa and there does not appear to be > > a major > >>>>>>>>>> contradiction to the above principles. From her > > mother, I > >> learnt > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> daughter has (by choice) taken on quite a hard life. > > Her mother > >>>>>> is a > >>>>>>>>>> woman of principle and is very attached to her > > daughter. > >> Neither > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> doing terribly well materially. But the mother is > > always > >> fighting > >>>>>>>>>> other peoples battles and rescuing people. And she > > says her > >>>>>> daughter > >>>>>>>>>> is a very good person. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I would expect the daughter to have done extremely > > well in > >> life. > >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps think this may start in her mid thirties when > > the maha > >>>>>> dasa of > >>>>>>>>>> jupiter starts. But I am still very surprised at her > > current > >>>>>> situation > >>>>>>>>>> given her chart, especially as her husb and cannot > > read, and > >> has > >>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>> in trouble with the law. Her mother told me that when > > her > >>>>>> daughter was > >>>>>>>>>> about 3 she had memories of a previous birth - the > > memories > >> were > >>>>>>>>>> unlike those that a 3 yr old would know about and were > >>>>>> distressing for > >>>>>>>>>> the child. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Any observations you have about this chart would be > > of great > >>>>>> interest > >>>>>>>>>> to me. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> With best regards, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi Ragavam > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 || hare räma kåñna || Dear Rafal, Namaskar Just to let you know, multiple copies of your messages are reaching the list. This has been happening for a few days I think. Best wishes, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Samir,namaskar Yes this is connected to my net-problems. Participants-Please excuse me. Regards Rafal Gendarz , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote: > > || hare räma kåñna || > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Just to let you know, multiple copies of your > messages are reaching the list. This has been > happening for a few days I think. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 dear all, Namaskar. I suggested application of dwadasottari dasa on this chart thru a private mail More after hearing from the querist. regards, Kishore patnaik On 9/7/06, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: > Dear Prafulla, > > Benefics gives bhagya, malefics block it. Rest are details. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > - > Prafulla Gang > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:50 PM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > Namaskar > > I understand - we are discussing natural malefic planets in 9th house. But > when yogakarka occupies 9th house (e.g. tula lagna - shani in 9th; or karka > lagna - mars in 9th) - will they also block the bhagya? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > War is not the continuation of politics with different > means, it is the greatest mass-crime perpetrated on the community of man. > > > > > starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl > > Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:10:32 +0200 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > namaskar, > > Dear Guru Raj, > > > > What sort of problem brings passionate grahas? > > > > Sanjaj Raj while talking about ninth from NL mentioned that only Guru is > > so pure to make only good there...are Surya and Moon also problematic in > > bhagyabhava in Rasi? > > > > Every sastra has own chapter dealing with conjunction and situation in > > ninth bhava..I think the fifth is also important and I suspect there > will > > come a time when we will talk about fifth bhava in similar lines..and > > with same importance. waiting for revealance about that > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > - > > Visti Larsen > > > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:00 PM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Yes, i thats why i mentioned 'Devi' as the devata for remedy of Saturn > > in ninth. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com > > *** > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > [] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > > 07 September 2006 14:13 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > > > > > namah sivaya > > Dear Guruji, > > > > In previouos classes SanjayRaj also mentioned Moon as Remedy for Sani > > in ninth..as only Moon can handle this suffering.. I also notice change > > in the lattest mp3.. > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > - > > Visti Larsen > > > > Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:35 PM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Prafulla, Namaskar > > To avoid the durbhagya of malefics placed in the ninth house, the > > following remedies are advised: > > Graha - Gemstone - Devata > > Rahu/Ketu- Yellow Sapphire - Guru > > Saturn - Ruby - Devi > > Mars - Pearl - Rudra/Shiva > > > > In addition the placements of Rajasic planets in the ninth can cause > > problems. The remedy is given below: > > Graha - Devata > > Mercury - Shiva > > Venus - Devi/Lakshmi > > > > The source of the information is the Atri-classes. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com > > *** > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > [] On Behalf Of Prafulla Gang > > 07 September 2006 08:17 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > > > Dear Anurag ji and Visti ji, > > > > Little confusion to me - > > > > On this thread / similiar threads, for rahu in 9th; stone for guru > > was suggested earlier. So now, 9th lord's stone (Ruby for sun) or guru's > > stone (pukhraj) - which one is better choice for unlocking the hindrance > > to Arudha? > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack > > of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > > > > > > > > anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > > > Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:03:04 -0000 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > The Ratna for the 9th Lord as recommended by Visti appears to be a > > > good choice. Freedom Cole had discussed my chart with me regarding > > > the 7th from the AL (11th June, 1972;10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > > > India). In this chart too, the 7th House has a lot of affliction > > > with the Amavasya Dosha and Shani placement. Freedom had > > illustrated > > > this with one or two charts. In essence, he laid a lot of > > importance > > > on the lord of the 7th House from the AL as it held the key to > > > removing the blockage from the 7th House from the AL. In Sanjay > > Ji's > > > chart, the 7th Lord is in 6th from Lagna and litigation and legal > > > issues coincided with the rise of the Arudha; it is also in the 9th > > > from the AL, showing foreign lands and support to the Arudha. Rahu > > > in the 7th from AL also shows what we have to pass through (Dwara > > > concept) in order for the image to emerge into the world. > > > > > > In the chart under scrutiny, like in my chart, Shani in the 7th > > from > > > AL, does not like to give way to the young and the image probably > > > does not rise till 34-36. In my case it is true. The 7th Lord in > > the > > > discussion chart is in the 5th from AL and 7th from Lagna. It's > > well > > > placed. It's Ratna can give good results. > > > > > > The Lord of the 7th House from the AL is important in this light, > > as > > > it holds the key to unlocking a 'blocked Arudha'. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > >> Dear Swee, Namaskar > > >> One way or the other, we have to make the ninth auspicious, as > > > otherwise > > >> there won't be an arudha in her life, let alone the effects of a > > > planet > > >> placed from it. Trying to mend Jupiters position in the sixth from > > > AL before > > >> looking at the ninth house, is like giving bandaid to a cancer > > > patient. > > >> So, if we are too picky about a gemstone, then atleast let us give > > > her a > > >> Guru mantra for Sadashiva. The prasiddha mantra is: Om BhurBhuvaH > > > Svah > > >> Sambasadashivaaya Namah| > > >> Since Moon should be remedied for Saturn, and Moon is the > > > strongest planet > > >> joined the fifth lord, we should add a devi mantra to this. > > > Alternatively a > > >> gemstone for the Sun can be used. > > >> Best wishes, > > >> *** > > >> Visti Larsen > > >> For services and articles visit: > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > > >> *** > > >> > > >> > > >> _____ > > >> > > >> > > > [] On > > >> Behalf Of Swee Chan > > >> 06 September 2006 18:47 > > >> > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Jaya Jagannatha > > >> > > >> Dear Sourav, > > >> Namaste > > >> > > >> Thank you for your extensive thoughts. My point is not meant to go > > > into the > > >> chart extensively, but to actually point out the inconsistency of > > >> prescribing a yellow sapphire for Jupiter, being in 6th from AL. > > > This causes > > >> poverty if activated. (I should be careful with my words, as Visti > > > puts it.) > > >> > > >> BTW, did we overlook the 3 malefics aspecting the lagna? > > >> > > >> Love, > > >> > > >> Swee > > >> sweechan > > >> > > >> > > >> On 9/5/06 8:01 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> || Hare Raama Krsna || > > >> > > >> Dear Srimati Swee-ji, > > >> > > >> Namaskar. Kindly > > > permit me to > > >> clarify the objective of my last message. I wrote to Anuraag-ji, > > > as a point > > >> of discussion of course, as to why Yellow Sapphire/Topaz is > > > suggested for > > >> MKS Rahu in general. He suggested that Guru is karaka for the 9th > > > house and > > >> I tried to give my thoughts on that. I *didn't* discuss the chart > > > in > > >> question, just that point only. > > >> > > >> I just looked at the chart and can give a very brief few lines on > > > what I > > >> noticed. Lagna is in Dhanush (natural 9th house) and shows a > > > person of > > >> principles (especially as Surya, karaka for principles/dharma) is > > > aspecting. > > >> Lagnesha is Guru exalted in the 8th (hard work, overcoming a lot > > of > > >> obstacles, rina) and shows that the person is highly intelligent > > > and > > >> willingly takes up hard labor (8th lord is also exalted and > > > aspecting Guru). > > >> Now the person is not well-to-do and is facing an uphill life. And > > > that too > > >> out of own decision. > > >> > > >> Let us see HL to note what the personreally values in life and how > > > that will > > >> sustain her. HL is in Tula in the 11th house (5-11 axis) > > > indicating that the > > >> person can do anything for love or gains. Now which one will > > > dominate ? See > > >> that HL lord Shukra and lord of 5th house and 12-th house Mangal > > > are > > >> conjoined in the 6th house. Note that Mangal is strong in upachaya > > > house, > > >> and is with a friend Chandra in exaltation. Shukra is in MKS and > > > thus Mangal > > >> is stronger and shows that the value system of the native is > > > principally > > >> what she loves and she will go to much troubles to get it (see > > > Guru's > > >> position discussed). > > >> > > >> Next, the trouble is that three grahas are in MKS of which two are > > > benefic > > >> grahas and of which one is AK himself. AK is 7th lord and in MKS > > > and shows a > > >> weak spouse and one who cannot read (Budha !). Now notice that > > > there is a > > >> curse of spouse and of mother both related. Here 8th lord is > > > involved, a > > >> dusthana bhava is involved and lagnesha is involved via rasi > > > drishti. But AK > > >> is not involved. Current Moola Dasa is that of Shani and Shani is > > > in Mrityu > > >> Sashtiamsa. Shani lords 2nd house and family/finances will be in > > > jeopardy. > > >> > > >> Visti-ji said that Shani in 9th can make a person defensive about > > > others > > >> under attack but the informaiton given (that mother is > > > combative/protective) > > >> is about mother and not the native. Visti-ji kindly clarify. > > >> > > >> Rahu in MKS is not good in the least and is conjoining UL with > > > Shani, Gulika > > >> and Maandi and in the 7th from AL showing obstructions and needs > > > to be > > >> remedied. There is Kaala Sarpa Yoga (broken by Shani) and Mangal > > is > > >> aspecting increasing the maleficience of this combination. Further > > > Mangal is > > >> in 12-th from Badhakesha Budha in MKS and conjunct with lord of > > > 64th > > >> drekkana Surya in the Badhakasthana. Shani is aspecting also. > > > This would be > > >> wrath of a devata. Devata is seen from Budha-Surya combination in > > > dual signs > > >> represents a Vishnu Avataara Sri Raama. Arranging dace festivals > > > (kirtanas) > > >> will help a lot. Surya is 9th lord and hence going to a temple on > > > a regular > > >> basis and worshipping Lord is recommended. Budha is Vargottama and > > > in > > >> Punarvasu nakshetra owned by lagnesha Guru and hence marriage will > > > be strong > > >> and dasas indicate some difficulties. > > >> > > >> Further worship of Mahavidya for Shukra(with Mantram as 5th lord > > > joins) and > > >> propitiation of pratyadhi devata of 6th house Karaka Shani is very > > > much > > >> necessary to take the Shukra out of MKS position otherwise 11th > > > house will > > >> be blocked and also 7th house will not be satisfactory (its karaka > > > is > > >> Shukra). Vimsottari Rahu Dasa Shani antardasa is running and these > > > are > > >> marakas to UL (if this is the first UL). Shani has also been > > > transiting > > >> Karka rasi with Guru lord of 4th house which is 8th from 9th > > > house/UL and > > >> can cause stresses to father and marriage. Basically marriage is > > > going > > >> though a testing period. Father is not happy with marraige as 9th > > > lord is in > > >> 7th house and indicates disagreement with father at the time of > > > marriage. > > >> The combinations in the 7th from AL must also be remedied or else > > >> lagna-aruda will not be rising (Visti-ji referred to this). Rahu > > > with Shani > > >> in 9th house indicates that proper Shraddha needs to be done to > > the > > >> forefathers. Malefics in the 7th from AL need to be 'overcome'. > > > Guru is > > >> Lagnesha and Pith Pokhraj will be just fine. Shukra indicates > > > Ishtakaraka > > >> and conjoins AK (in the 2nd house from Navamsa Lagna) shows a > > > highly > > >> spiritual person. Worship of Lakshmi-Naaraayana must be done for > > > safe > > >> passage in life. Budha AK is in debility in 5th house of > > > Vimsaamsa. Debility > > >> of AK in Vimsaamsa shows quick resignation to Ishtadevata. > > >> > > >> Swee-ji and others, I would request to advise appropriate Mantras > > > to the > > >> native. I recommend use of Pith Pokhraj additionally: (i) It is > > > Lagna lord's > > >> stone and will strengthen her (ii) Guru is in Pushyami Nakshetra > > > lorded by > > >> Tamasik graha Shani and hence this stone will be good for Guru. > > >> > > >> Best wishes, > > >> > > >> Sourav > > >> > > >> =============================================================== > > >> > > >> > > >> , Swee Chan <swee@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Jaya Jagannatha > > >>> > > >>> Dear Sourav, > > >>> Namaste > > >>> > > >>> My understanding of strengthening Guru and the 9th house is to > > > offer > > >> charity > > >>> to him. In this manner, Guru may hopefully bless the native of > > > its > > >> negative > > >>> vrischikha placement in the navamsa and conjoining an exalted > > > venus in > > >>> trimsamsa, which is in negative placement in the rasi. The > > > dispositor of > > >>> Guru is a waning malefic Moon ( that says much to Guru's > > > disposition) > > >>> aspected by Saturn. The fact of the matter is, Mars aspects the > > > 9th with > > >>> Rahu and Saturn. The natural atma is completely bombarded here. > > >>> Any more gemstone suggestion? <grin> > > >>> > > >>> Love, > > >>> > > >>> Swee > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 9/5/06 1:15 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> || Hare Raama Krsna || > > >>>> > > >>>> Dear Sri Anuraag-ji, > > >>>> > > >>>> Namaskar. Nice to see you writing > > >>>> after a brief absence. Now in this matter, question is why not > > > ratna of > > >> Surya > > >>>> (Karaka for Dharma) or Budha who is opposing Rahu in > > > Kaalachakra ? I > > >> think the > > >>>> answer is that Rahu gives illusion to buddhi and 9th house > > > being > > >> manifestation > > >>>> of 5th (being 5th from 5th) strengthening of Guru is > > > important. Surya is > > >> more > > >>>> about dharma than about buddhi and Budha is not inimical to > > > Rahu and can > > >>>> co-operate with Rahu. Further Guru is bhagya-karaka and hence > > > can remove > > >>>> blockage of bhagya. Also notive that Rahu is in debility in > > > Guru's > > >> house, if > > >>>> not-so-weak in Surya's house and is infact > > > exalted/moolatrikona in > > >> Budha's > > >>>> house. Hence choice is Guru's stone. > > >>>> > > >>>> Best wishes, > > >>>> > > >>>> Sourav > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > ================================================================ > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> , "Anurag Sharma" > > > anuraagsharma27@ > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Prafulla Gang, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Visti will correct me if there are other reasons in the > > > chart being > > >>>>>> discussed for the prescription, but generally speaking Rahu > > > in > > >>>>>> Marana Karaka Sthana can be countered with the Ratna for > > > Guru. Guru > > >>>>>> is Karaka for the 9th and opposed to the damaging > > > activities of Rahu. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best Wishes, > > >>>>>> Anurag Sharma. > > >>>>>> http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > >> ytransformation.blogspot.com > > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear Visti ji > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Sorry for jumping into the thread. 9th can be activated > > > by using > > >>>>>> Pukhraj? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> The difference between a successful person and others is > > > not a > > >>>>>> lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will. > > >>>>>> ; > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> visti@ > > >>>>>>>>>> Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:39:57 +0200 > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Swee, Namaskar > > >>>>>>>>>> Benefics in Sixth from AL do not cause Durbhagya, be > > > careful > > >>>>>> with your > > >>>>>>>>>> terminology. They cause peacefull attitude and the > > > person stays > > >>>>>> out of > > >>>>>>>>>> fights. Did you know that Saturn in the ninth can > > > make the > > >> person > > >>>>>>>>>> vigilant > > >>>>>>>>>> and always eager to fight against opressors of other > > > people or > > >>>>>>>>>> themselves? > > >>>>>>>>>> Now she won't do that. Better to correct the ninth > > > house to > > >>>>>> begin with > > >>>>>>>>>> otherwise the arudha won't rise at all. > > >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, > > >>>>>>>>>> *** > > >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > > >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: > > >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > > >> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com > > >>>>>>>>>> *** > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> [ <]> > > >> @] > > >>>>>>>>>> On > > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Swee Chan > > >>>>>>>>>> 06 September 2006 03:08 > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti and Nimmi, > > >>>>>>>>>> Namaste > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> When does your rule apply when it comes to wearing > > > the gemstone > > >>>>>> which is > > >>>>>>>>>> a > > >>>>>>>>>> benefic in the 6th from AL causing durbhagya? > > >>>>>>>>>> From previous p osts, there's inconsistency in your > > > current > > >>>>>> suggestion. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi, there are 3 planets that are in marana and the > > > lady is > > >> in > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> mahadasa of marana Rahu. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Love, > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Swee > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/06 2:59 AM, "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Nimmi, Namaskar > > >>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention the Kala Sarpa Yoga, and the Rahu- > > > Shani yoga > > >>>>>> in the > > >>>>>>>>>> ninth > > >>>>>>>>>> causing durbhagya. This will simply block the persons > > > life > > >> until > > >>>>>> 45, if > > >>>>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>>> remedied with the wearing of a yellow sapphire or the > > > likes. > > >>>>>>>>>> Alternatively > > >>>>>>>>>> ask the person to worship the Guru/Sadashiva. > > >>>>>>>>>> Best wi shes, > > >>>>>>>>>> *** > > >>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > > >>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit: > > >>>>>>>>>> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> > > >> <http://srigaruda.com> com > > >>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > > >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> > > >>>>>>>>>> *** > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > [ > > >>>>>>>>>> <]> > > >> <]> @] On > > >>>>>> Behalf Of > > >>>>>>>>>> nimmiragavan > > >>>>>>>>>> 05 September 2006 10:10 > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] A unique chart > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all, > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I came across the following chart which belongs to > > > the daughter > > >>>>>> of a > > >>>>>>>>>> friend of mine. I havent met the daughter yet, and > > > did not > > >> expect > > >>>>>>>>>> anything like this when I cast the chart. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> 21st June 1979, 21:10 at London. 1 hour daylight > > > saving time. > > >> Asc > > >>>>>>>>>> around 6 degrees sagittarius. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> The daughter has a dharma karmadhipadhi yoga in the > > > 7th house > > >> of > > >>>>>>>>>> gemini with vargottama mercury conjunct sun. There is > > > also a > > >>>>>> strong > > >>>>>>>>>> lagnadhi yoga with exalted moon and strong venus in > > > the 6th in > > >>>>>> taurus, > > >>>>>>>>>> and exalted jupiter in the 8th in cancer. All the > > > benefics are > > >>>>>> very > > >>>>>>>>>> strong. In addition, the rulers of the 6th, 8th and > > > 12th are in > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> 6th, 8th and 12th houses, though they are all strong - > > > except > > >> for > > >>>>>>>>>> mars. Also there is a strong solar yoga with the sun > > > being > > >>>>>> surrounded > > >>>>>>>>>> by strong benefics on both sides. All the benefics > > > are very > > >>>>>> strong in > > >>>>>>>>>> the chart. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I checked the navamsa and there does not appear to be > > > a major > > >>>>>>>>>> contradiction to the above principles. From her > > > mother, I > > >> learnt > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> daughter has (by choice) taken on quite a hard life. > > > Her mother > > >>>>>> is a > > >>>>>>>>>> woman of principle and is very attached to her > > > daughter. > > >> Neither > > >>>>>> are > > >>>>>>>>>> doing terribly well materially. But the mother is > > > always > > >> fighting > > >>>>>>>>>> other peoples battles and rescuing people. And she > > > says her > > >>>>>> daughter > > >>>>>>>>>> is a very good person. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I would expect the daughter to have done extremely > > > well in > > >> life. > > >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps think this may start in her mid thirties when > > > the maha > > >>>>>> dasa of > > >>>>>>>>>> jupiter starts. But I am still very surprised at her > > > current > > >>>>>> situation > > >>>>>>>>>> given her chart, especially as her husb and cannot > > > read, and > > >> has > > >>>>>> been > > >>>>>>>>>> in trouble with the law. Her mother told me that when > > > her > > >>>>>> daughter was > > >>>>>>>>>> about 3 she had memories of a previous birth - the > > > memories > > >> were > > >>>>>>>>>> unlike those that a 3 yr old would know about and were > > >>>>>> distressing for > > >>>>>>>>>> the child. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Any observations you have about this chart would be > > > of great > > >>>>>> interest > > >>>>>>>>>> to me. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> With best regards, > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Nimmi Ragavam > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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