Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Hare Rama Krsna! Dear Mr. Goel, > 2. First point of Sidereal Aries -our ancient Rishis suggested that this >point should be opposite to Star Chitra. Can you point out to us any quote from the ancient rishis where they have stated this? Ys, Dhira Krsna dasa, <http://www.jyotishi.150m.com/Ayanamsa.html> <Dhira_ayanamsa> Drive cheaper: are you paying too much for fuel? Visit www.globalfuelsaver.net and enter my e-mail as reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Dear Goelji, I thankyou for your response to my message. I was away so could not respond to your reply earlier. As I said, I have not used any scriptural reference in my study.With due regards to the available knowledge with us, we are all aware that a lot of knowledge is missing from our religious and ancient books. e are also aware that over the last few centuries some "value addition" has been done by the scholars of this time. Sir, ayanamsha is the measure of the precession of the equinoxes. It is not dependent on when the human society developed the concept of Rashi chakra. It is natural and therefore, precedes any Zero mark. Further, whenever we selected a Zero, its for relative measurement. Ayanamsha or the precession is basic astronomy and independent of the civilisations and even sacrosanct religious thought. Our ancient seers knew this as did other civilisations in Egypt, China and other places. Sir, may I ask that have we given due weightage to Guru or Jupiter? Why does Guru have the status of a satwik graha along with the luminaries, Sun and the Moon. For like the Sun and the Moon form a "natural" month; Sun and Guru form a "natural" year. I do not invent this, it is a natural cycle. Swami Yukteshwarji in his book in 1894 on the "Holy Sciences" given us the hint to decipher it. He has stated that the Precession would be a cycle of 24000 years with the ayanamsha at 54 seconds/year. He is right! Only he refers to the "natural" year created by the conjunction of Sun and Guru. For each such conjunction gives a 54 seconds change in precession. And I may add with your permission that the entire Jyotish is but a conjunction, opposition and motion of stars. Does not the conjunction of Sun and Moon create a month? I am grateful that you read through what I wrote.I shall try to answer any other questions too. with regards rishi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 To add "spice and thought" to the discussion, Ayanamsa comes into place due to the 3rd Motion of the Earth! I am suprised, none have made a mention of this ! Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama vedic astrology, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Rishi , > Ayanamsa is not dependent on the ,Motion of planets ,their conjunction or separation in the zodiac. > Upto the period of Mahabharta , the Zodiacal signs were not invented ,at least they were not in use. > About the era of 2000 B.C. ECLIPTIC WAS DIVIDED IN 12 EQUAL PARTS OF 30degrees EACH. Each part is named ,first one as Aries and last one as PISCES.The question was from where to start. Vishunu Purana , which was authored when V.E.Point was in the 1st pada of Nakshatra Krittika, suggested > three vital and most important points, namely: > 1. V.E.Point-This equinoctial point is an intersection of the ecliptic and Ecuador of date.This point is slowly moving back- wards , according to modern astronomy ,at a mean rate of about 50.3 seconds per year-50.29 per Tr. year and 50.26 per Sid. year. > As a result the longitudes of the fixer stars is increasing by the same value. > ( Besides fixed stars have their own motion in the sky , which is called Proper > motion of stars . as such fixed stars are not so fixed in the sky.The longitude of star Spica- Chitra has diminished by 60 sec. in last 1721 years) > 2. First point of Sidereal Aries -our ancient Rishis suggested that this point should be opposite to Star Chitra. Thus logical definition of Ayanamsa will be as > follows: > > Ayanamsa = TROPICAL Longitude of star chitra - 180 degrees > > One can easily find out the longitude of fixed stars from catalogue KT-5. > MODERN ASTRONOMER CLAIMS THAT DIFFERENCE WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN 0,04 sec.FROM OBSERVED VALUE. > 3. Ascending Point; All of you are fully aware of this point > I have published a detailed article on this subject which I Will put on net for benefit my fellow friends. > Regards, > G.K.GOEL > > rishi_2000in rishi_2000in wrote: > > Resolving the Ayanamsha/Precession of equinoxes > > Mahakaal, shashwat and eternal, the Lord of Time has guided me in this > attempt to resolve the issue of ayanamsha and the precession of equinox. > The blessings of Brihaspati, Jupiter and Sun have shown the path in > comprehending the natural patterns of time. I propose to suggest a > unique and clear solution to the Zero of the Zodiac for Jyotish as also > the rate of precession. It is based on the ancient concept of > drikaganita. > > This study does not use any scriptural reference, fixed star or > constellation, historical reference or any other assumption but is > entirely based on an empirical search for patterns and data analysis of > the Swiss Ephemeris data available to me through Jagannath Hora > software. It suggests that the Zero of the Zodiac or the effect of the > precession/ ayanamsha value can be derived independently and exactly > from the data of the tropical ephemeris itself without any external > input. > > The study proposes: > > 1. Like the Sun and Moon opposition and conjunctions form the natural > cycle for a month; similarly, Jupiter and Sun conjunction/opposition > create a natural cycle defining not only a year but also the entire > precessional cycle of 25800 years. The very genesis of the Zero of the > Zodiac and thus the beginning of Aries/Mesh originates from this cycle. > 2. The rate of precession over this cycle is at present 288 minutes > (4 Degrees 48 minutes) per 344 years plus 5 days. This 344 year cycle > comprises of 320 conjunctions of Sun/Jupiter and is being termed as the > Ujjayini Cycle. > 3. A single Jupiter/Sun conjunction/opposition leads to a precession > of around 54 minutes. > 4. 24000 conjunctions/oppositions of Sun/Jupiter lead to a full 360 > degrees precession over a present period of 25800 years but this could > vary depending on the natural cycles of Sun/Jupiter over the years. > 5. The entire cycle would consist of 75 Ujjayini cycles of 344 years > each with 25 cycles over 8600 years will lead to a 120 degree > precession. > 6. Precession over a single rashi/sign would take 2150 years at the > present rate. > 7. The most likely mathematical solution for Zero of the ayanamsha > with respect to the Tropical Zero is either at the Autumn Equinox of 273 > AD at a Sun/Jupiter conjunction at 29:13 Virgo (Tropical value) or the > Vernal Equinox of 321 AD with a Sun /Jupiter opposition with Sun at 1 > Aries and Jupiter at 1 Libra. > 8. Without any reference to Chitra, the Chitrapaksha/ Lahiri > ayanamsha gets approximately validated. If the Zero is taken in 273, a > correction of plus 9' 47'' is needed and if taken at 321 AD vernal > Equinox, the correction is minus 29'57''. > 9. The correction would then be based on a progression of the Zero by > 4'48'' in every 320 Su/Ju cycles in 344 years. > 10. This would suggest at a correction of Lahiri minus > 29'57'' in 321 AD, the following ayanamsha values: > > Year > > Proposed ayanamsha > > Lahiri ayanamsha > > Difference > > 22 March, 321 > > 0-0-00 > > 0-29-56.97 > > - 29-56.97 > > 27 march, 665 > > 4-48-00 > > 5-16-8.2 > > -28-8.2 > > 2 April, 1009 > > 9-36-00 > > 10-3-9.98 > > - 27-9.98 > > 6 April, 1353 > > 14-24-00 > > 14-50-6.66 > > -26-6.66 > > 11 April 1697 > > 19- 12-00 > > 19-38- 6.20 > > -26-6.20 > > 16 April,2041 > > 24-00-00 > > 24-25-48.25 > > -25-48.25 > > 21 April, 2385 > > 28-48-00 > > 29-14-47.60 > > -26-47.60 > > As is evident, the focus is on cycles regarding Sun/Jupiter > conjunctions/oppositions. These cycles need to be studied separately in > the Tropical Ephemeris and in any ayanamsha corrected ephemeris. The > integration of the two sets of data has brought these proposals which > stem from the following observations: > > 1. Jupiter moves at varying speeds in different signs/rashis in > different months. When conjunct with Sun its geocentric speed is 6:30/7 > degrees/month. Slowing down till retrograde, then moving in the opposite > side and finally moving fast again at the next conjunction. A key > pointer is that the movement of Jupiter is different in different > Rashis/signs. > 2. A full cycle of Jupiter conjunctions over 12 years shows the key > pattern of only 11 conjunctions with no conjunction in one of the 12 > signs. The synodic cycle of Jupiter is different and varying when > Jupiter is in different rashis. > 3. In a tropical conjunction cycle the differential of the > progression of two consecutive conjunctions between two consecutive > signs varies over time in accordance with precessional effect, it does > not do so in the ayanamsha adjusted ephemeris and the progressive > differential is always minimal at the cusp of Libra/Virgo. > 4. An observation of the differential of progressions between > different signs in a multiple synodic cycle of Jupiter on the Tropical > Zodiac with 83 calendar years as the unit, spread over –4700 BC to > 5300 AD strikingly reveals the shifts over every 1075/2100 years. > Simple graphs of this data show how simply the various tropical signs > are shifting according to the placement of the Zero of the Zodiac and > provide unique values not only at 285AD in the conjunction cycle and > 321 Ad in the opposition cycle but at every 2100 year interval on both > sides of the zero. > 5. The patterns emerging are similar to a single one year cycle of > Jupiter. The elegance and simplicity of the macro linkage of a Jupiter > cycle of 25800 years with the micro one year cycle is amazingly > breathtaking. > 6. Separately, in an ayanamsha adjusted ephemeris, observation of the > multiple long term cycles of Jupiter conjunctions/opposition with Sun > reveals that in every 344 years and five days or 319 > conjunctions/oppositions; Jupiter and Sun return to nearly the same > point in the Zodiac. This natural cycle like the others which are known, > the Metonic cycle; the Saros cycle runs in a series. From any date in a > calendar and using an ayanamsha adjusted nirayaana ephemeris, to any > other date 344 years+4/5 days away will lead to nearly the same position > of Jupiter as well as Sun. This is the cycle being termed as the > Ujjayini Cycle being used to understand the rate of precession. This > 25800 year cycle at present suggests an average 50.23 arc seconds of > precession every year. > > The data used for analyzing as well as the detailed illustrated study is > being posted as a file. The excel charts in themselves reveal the story > of the moving zodiac itself deriving the precession from the equinox in > any year uniquely. > > The sheer simplicity of measuring the precessional values; the elegant > symphonic and synchronised movements of the cycles over years is what > nature has provided us and the Lord of Time, Mahakaaleshwar has guided > me. > > Before, I conclude this; I must express my gratitude to Shri PVR > Narasimha Rao, the creator of Jagannath Hora, without which this study > could not have been possible. I am also grateful to Shri Sanjay Rath > whose lucid use of symbols in explaining Jyotisha helped me. > Finally, I need to convey my thanks and regards to Shri Rohiniranjan, > poet, philosopher, a veteran student of Jyotisha for forty years and a > human being par excellence with whom I interacted on this project for > many months and despite hopeless forays in many blind alleys his > constant encouragement was a source of inspiration in this effort. > > I remain votive to sunshine as always, > > Rishi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 All gurus In this Ayanamsha too much of Confushions in this. In the case of calculate a Jathaka , if using each ayanamsha jathaka have Too much of Differences. One Mr. Chadrahari , He developed a ayanamsha that is called Mooladhara rahushiki chakra. Too much of thining and Ayanamsha are Available in the World. But Which Is Correct. Manu Raman Suprajarama <cru115 (AT) niranjanbabu (DOT) com> wrote: To add "spice and thought" to the discussion, Ayanamsa comes into place due to the 3rd Motion of the Earth! I am suprised, none have made a mention of this ! Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama vedic astrology, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Rishi , > Ayanamsa is not dependent on the ,Motion of planets ,their conjunction or separation in the zodiac. > Upto the period of Mahabharta , the Zodiacal signs were not invented ,at least they were not in use. > About the era of 2000 B.C. ECLIPTIC WAS DIVIDED IN 12 EQUAL PARTS OF 30degrees EACH. Each part is named ,first one as Aries and last one as PISCES.The question was from where to start. Vishunu Purana , which was authored when V.E.Point was in the 1st pada of Nakshatra Krittika, suggested > three vital and most important points, namely: > 1. V.E.Point-This equinoctial point is an intersection of the ecliptic and Ecuador of date.This point is slowly moving back- wards , according to modern astronomy ,at a mean rate of about 50.3 seconds per year-50.29 per Tr. year and 50.26 per Sid. year. > As a result the longitudes of the fixer stars is increasing by the same value. > ( Besides fixed stars have their own motion in the sky , which is called Proper > motion of stars . as such fixed stars are not so fixed in the sky.The longitude of star Spica- Chitra has diminished by 60 sec. in last 1721 years) > 2. First point of Sidereal Aries -our ancient Rishis suggested that this point should be opposite to Star Chitra. Thus logical definition of Ayanamsa will be as > follows: > > Ayanamsa = TROPICAL Longitude of star chitra - 180 degrees > > One can easily find out the longitude of fixed stars from catalogue KT-5. > MODERN ASTRONOMER CLAIMS THAT DIFFERENCE WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN 0,04 sec.FROM OBSERVED VALUE. > 3. Ascending Point; All of you are fully aware of this point > I have published a detailed article on this subject which I Will put on net for benefit my fellow friends. > Regards, > G.K.GOEL > > rishi_2000in rishi_2000in wrote: > > Resolving the Ayanamsha/Precession of equinoxes > > Mahakaal, shashwat and eternal, the Lord of Time has guided me in this > attempt to resolve the issue of ayanamsha and the precession of equinox. > The blessings of Brihaspati, Jupiter and Sun have shown the path in > comprehending the natural patterns of time. I propose to suggest a > unique and clear solution to the Zero of the Zodiac for Jyotish as also > the rate of precession. It is based on the ancient concept of > drikaganita. > > This study does not use any scriptural reference, fixed star or > constellation, historical reference or any other assumption but is > entirely based on an empirical search for patterns and data analysis of > the Swiss Ephemeris data available to me through Jagannath Hora > software. It suggests that the Zero of the Zodiac or the effect of the > precession/ ayanamsha value can be derived independently and exactly > from the data of the tropical ephemeris itself without any external > input. > > The study proposes: > > 1. Like the Sun and Moon opposition and conjunctions form the natural > cycle for a month; similarly, Jupiter and Sun conjunction/opposition > create a natural cycle defining not only a year but also the entire > precessional cycle of 25800 years. The very genesis of the Zero of the > Zodiac and thus the beginning of Aries/Mesh originates from this cycle. > 2. The rate of precession over this cycle is at present 288 minutes > (4 Degrees 48 minutes) per 344 years plus 5 days. This 344 year cycle > comprises of 320 conjunctions of Sun/Jupiter and is being termed as the > Ujjayini Cycle. > 3. A single Jupiter/Sun conjunction/opposition leads to a precession > of around 54 minutes. > 4. 24000 conjunctions/oppositions of Sun/Jupiter lead to a full 360 > degrees precession over a present period of 25800 years but this could > vary depending on the natural cycles of Sun/Jupiter over the years. > 5. The entire cycle would consist of 75 Ujjayini cycles of 344 years > each with 25 cycles over 8600 years will lead to a 120 degree > precession. > 6. Precession over a single rashi/sign would take 2150 years at the > present rate. > 7. The most likely mathematical solution for Zero of the ayanamsha > with respect to the Tropical Zero is either at the Autumn Equinox of 273 > AD at a Sun/Jupiter conjunction at 29:13 Virgo (Tropical value) or the > Vernal Equinox of 321 AD with a Sun /Jupiter opposition with Sun at 1 > Aries and Jupiter at 1 Libra. > 8. Without any reference to Chitra, the Chitrapaksha/ Lahiri > ayanamsha gets approximately validated. If the Zero is taken in 273, a > correction of plus 9' 47'' is needed and if taken at 321 AD vernal > Equinox, the correction is minus 29'57''. > 9. The correction would then be based on a progression of the Zero by > 4'48'' in every 320 Su/Ju cycles in 344 years. > 10. This would suggest at a correction of Lahiri minus > 29'57'' in 321 AD, the following ayanamsha values: > > Year > > Proposed ayanamsha > > Lahiri ayanamsha > > Difference > > 22 March, 321 > > 0-0-00 > > 0-29-56.97 > > - 29-56.97 > > 27 march, 665 > > 4-48-00 > > 5-16-8.2 > > -28-8.2 > > 2 April, 1009 > > 9-36-00 > > 10-3-9.98 > > - 27-9.98 > > 6 April, 1353 > > 14-24-00 > > 14-50-6.66 > > -26-6.66 > > 11 April 1697 > > 19- 12-00 > > 19-38- 6.20 > > -26-6.20 > > 16 April,2041 > > 24-00-00 > > 24-25-48.25 > > -25-48.25 > > 21 April, 2385 > > 28-48-00 > > 29-14-47.60 > > -26-47.60 > > As is evident, the focus is on cycles regarding Sun/Jupiter > conjunctions/oppositions. These cycles need to be studied separately in > the Tropical Ephemeris and in any ayanamsha corrected ephemeris. The > integration of the two sets of data has brought these proposals which > stem from the following observations: > > 1. Jupiter moves at varying speeds in different signs/rashis in > different months. When conjunct with Sun its geocentric speed is 6:30/7 > degrees/month. Slowing down till retrograde, then moving in the opposite > side and finally moving fast again at the next conjunction. A key > pointer is that the movement of Jupiter is different in different > Rashis/signs. > 2. A full cycle of Jupiter conjunctions over 12 years shows the key > pattern of only 11 conjunctions with no conjunction in one of the 12 > signs. The synodic cycle of Jupiter is different and varying when > Jupiter is in different rashis. > 3. In a tropical conjunction cycle the differential of the > progression of two consecutive conjunctions between two consecutive > signs varies over time in accordance with precessional effect, it does > not do so in the ayanamsha adjusted ephemeris and the progressive > differential is always minimal at the cusp of Libra/Virgo. > 4. An observation of the differential of progressions between > different signs in a multiple synodic cycle of Jupiter on the Tropical > Zodiac with 83 calendar years as the unit, spread over –4700 BC to > 5300 AD strikingly reveals the shifts over every 1075/2100 years. > Simple graphs of this data show how simply the various tropical signs > are shifting according to the placement of the Zero of the Zodiac and > provide unique values not only at 285AD in the conjunction cycle and > 321 Ad in the opposition cycle but at every 2100 year interval on both > sides of the zero. > 5. The patterns emerging are similar to a single one year cycle of > Jupiter. The elegance and simplicity of the macro linkage of a Jupiter > cycle of 25800 years with the micro one year cycle is amazingly > breathtaking. > 6. Separately, in an ayanamsha adjusted ephemeris, observation of the > multiple long term cycles of Jupiter conjunctions/opposition with Sun > reveals that in every 344 years and five days or 319 > conjunctions/oppositions; Jupiter and Sun return to nearly the same > point in the Zodiac. This natural cycle like the others which are known, > the Metonic cycle; the Saros cycle runs in a series. From any date in a > calendar and using an ayanamsha adjusted nirayaana ephemeris, to any > other date 344 years+4/5 days away will lead to nearly the same position > of Jupiter as well as Sun. This is the cycle being termed as the > Ujjayini Cycle being used to understand the rate of precession. This > 25800 year cycle at present suggests an average 50.23 arc seconds of > precession every year. > > The data used for analyzing as well as the detailed illustrated study is > being posted as a file. The excel charts in themselves reveal the story > of the moving zodiac itself deriving the precession from the equinox in > any year uniquely. > > The sheer simplicity of measuring the precessional values; the elegant > symphonic and synchronised movements of the cycles over years is what > nature has provided us and the Lord of Time, Mahakaaleshwar has guided > me. > > Before, I conclude this; I must express my gratitude to Shri PVR > Narasimha Rao, the creator of Jagannath Hora, without which this study > could not have been possible. I am also grateful to Shri Sanjay Rath > whose lucid use of symbols in explaining Jyotisha helped me. > Finally, I need to convey my thanks and regards to Shri Rohiniranjan, > poet, philosopher, a veteran student of Jyotisha for forty years and a > human being par excellence with whom I interacted on this project for > many months and despite hopeless forays in many blind alleys his > constant encouragement was a source of inspiration in this effort. > > I remain votive to sunshine as always, > > Rishi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Suggest you try out on different charts and draw the conclusions youself. Leaving aside mathematical research, I have myself tried different ayanamsas, but satisfied that grandfathers (Raman) ayanamsa gives good results. Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama vedic astrology, manu- m <manukpla wrote: > > All gurus > > In this Ayanamsha too much of Confushions in this. In the case of calculate a Jathaka , if using each ayanamsha jathaka have Too much of Differences. One Mr. Chadrahari , He developed a ayanamsha that is called Mooladhara rahushiki chakra. Too much of thining and Ayanamsha are Available in the World. But Which Is Correct. > > Manu > > Raman Suprajarama cru115 wrote: > > To add "spice and thought" to the discussion, Ayanamsa comes into place > due to the 3rd Motion of the Earth! > > I am suprised, none have made a mention of this ! > > Om Tat Sat, > > Raman Suprajarama > > vedic astrology, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Rishi , > > Ayanamsa is not dependent on the ,Motion of planets ,their conjunction > or separation in the zodiac. > > Upto the period of Mahabharta , the Zodiacal signs were not invented > ,at least they were not in use. > > About the era of 2000 B.C. ECLIPTIC WAS DIVIDED IN 12 EQUAL PARTS OF > 30degrees EACH. Each part is named ,first one as Aries and last one as > PISCES.The question was from where to start. Vishunu Purana , which was > authored when V.E.Point was in the 1st pada of Nakshatra Krittika, > suggested > > three vital and most important points, namely: > > 1. V.E.Point-This equinoctial point is an intersection of the ecliptic > and Ecuador of date.This point is slowly moving back- wards , according > to modern astronomy ,at a mean rate of about 50.3 seconds per year-50.29 > per Tr. year and 50.26 per Sid. year. > > As a result the longitudes of the fixer stars is increasing by the > same value. > > ( Besides fixed stars have their own motion in the sky , which is > called Proper > > motion of stars . as such fixed stars are not so fixed in the sky.The > longitude of star Spica- Chitra has diminished by 60 sec. in last 1721 > years) > > 2. First point of Sidereal Aries -our ancient Rishis suggested that > this point should be opposite to Star Chitra. Thus logical definition of > Ayanamsa will be as > > follows: > > > > Ayanamsa = TROPICAL Longitude of star chitra - 180 degrees > > > > One can easily find out the longitude of fixed stars from catalogue > KT-5. > > MODERN ASTRONOMER CLAIMS THAT DIFFERENCE WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN 0,04 > sec.FROM OBSERVED VALUE. > > 3. Ascending Point; All of you are fully aware of this point > > I have published a detailed article on this subject which I Will put > on net for benefit my fellow friends. > > Regards, > > G.K.GOEL > > > > rishi_2000in rishi_2000in@ wrote: > > > > Resolving the Ayanamsha/Precession of equinoxes > > > > Mahakaal, shashwat and eternal, the Lord of Time has guided me in this > > attempt to resolve the issue of ayanamsha and the precession of > equinox. > > The blessings of Brihaspati, Jupiter and Sun have shown the path in > > comprehending the natural patterns of time. I propose to suggest a > > unique and clear solution to the Zero of the Zodiac for Jyotish as > also > > the rate of precession. It is based on the ancient concept of > > drikaganita. > > > > This study does not use any scriptural reference, fixed star or > > constellation, historical reference or any other assumption but is > > entirely based on an empirical search for patterns and data analysis > of > > the Swiss Ephemeris data available to me through Jagannath Hora > > software. It suggests that the Zero of the Zodiac or the effect of the > > precession/ ayanamsha value can be derived independently and exactly > > from the data of the tropical ephemeris itself without any external > > input. > > > > The study proposes: > > > > 1. Like the Sun and Moon opposition and conjunctions form the natural > > cycle for a month; similarly, Jupiter and Sun conjunction/opposition > > create a natural cycle defining not only a year but also the entire > > precessional cycle of 25800 years. The very genesis of the Zero of the > > Zodiac and thus the beginning of Aries/Mesh originates from this > cycle. > > 2. The rate of precession over this cycle is at present 288 minutes > > (4 Degrees 48 minutes) per 344 years plus 5 days. This 344 year cycle > > comprises of 320 conjunctions of Sun/Jupiter and is being termed as > the > > Ujjayini Cycle. > > 3. A single Jupiter/Sun conjunction/opposition leads to a precession > > of around 54 minutes. > > 4. 24000 conjunctions/oppositions of Sun/Jupiter lead to a full 360 > > degrees precession over a present period of 25800 years but this could > > vary depending on the natural cycles of Sun/Jupiter over the years. > > 5. The entire cycle would consist of 75 Ujjayini cycles of 344 years > > each with 25 cycles over 8600 years will lead to a 120 degree > > precession. > > 6. Precession over a single rashi/sign would take 2150 years at the > > present rate. > > 7. The most likely mathematical solution for Zero of the ayanamsha > > with respect to the Tropical Zero is either at the Autumn Equinox of > 273 > > AD at a Sun/Jupiter conjunction at 29:13 Virgo (Tropical value) or the > > Vernal Equinox of 321 AD with a Sun /Jupiter opposition with Sun at 1 > > Aries and Jupiter at 1 Libra. > > 8. Without any reference to Chitra, the Chitrapaksha/ Lahiri > > ayanamsha gets approximately validated. If the Zero is taken in 273, a > > correction of plus 9' 47'' is needed and if taken at 321 AD vernal > > Equinox, the correction is minus 29'57''. > > 9. The correction would then be based on a progression of the Zero by > > 4'48'' in every 320 Su/Ju cycles in 344 years. > > 10. This would suggest at a correction of Lahiri minus > > 29'57'' in 321 AD, the following ayanamsha values: > > > > Year > > > > Proposed ayanamsha > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha > > > > Difference > > > > 22 March, 321 > > > > 0-0-00 > > > > 0-29-56.97 > > > > - 29-56.97 > > > > 27 march, 665 > > > > 4-48-00 > > > > 5-16-8.2 > > > > -28-8.2 > > > > 2 April, 1009 > > > > 9-36-00 > > > > 10-3-9.98 > > > > - 27-9.98 > > > > 6 April, 1353 > > > > 14-24-00 > > > > 14-50-6.66 > > > > -26-6.66 > > > > 11 April 1697 > > > > 19- 12-00 > > > > 19-38- 6.20 > > > > -26-6.20 > > > > 16 April,2041 > > > > 24-00-00 > > > > 24-25-48.25 > > > > -25-48.25 > > > > 21 April, 2385 > > > > 28-48-00 > > > > 29-14-47.60 > > > > -26-47.60 > > > > As is evident, the focus is on cycles regarding Sun/Jupiter > > conjunctions/oppositions. These cycles need to be studied separately > in > > the Tropical Ephemeris and in any ayanamsha corrected ephemeris. The > > integration of the two sets of data has brought these proposals which > > stem from the following observations: > > > > 1. Jupiter moves at varying speeds in different signs/rashis in > > different months. When conjunct with Sun its geocentric speed is > 6:30/7 > > degrees/month. Slowing down till retrograde, then moving in the > opposite > > side and finally moving fast again at the next conjunction. A key > > pointer is that the movement of Jupiter is different in different > > Rashis/signs. > > 2. A full cycle of Jupiter conjunctions over 12 years shows the key > > pattern of only 11 conjunctions with no conjunction in one of the 12 > > signs. The synodic cycle of Jupiter is different and varying when > > Jupiter is in different rashis. > > 3. In a tropical conjunction cycle the differential of the > > progression of two consecutive conjunctions between two consecutive > > signs varies over time in accordance with precessional effect, it does > > not do so in the ayanamsha adjusted ephemeris and the progressive > > differential is always minimal at the cusp of Libra/Virgo. > > 4. An observation of the differential of progressions between > > different signs in a multiple synodic cycle of Jupiter on the Tropical > > Zodiac with 83 calendar years as the unit, spread over –4700 BC to > > 5300 AD strikingly reveals the shifts over every 1075/2100 years. > > Simple graphs of this data show how simply the various tropical signs > > are shifting according to the placement of the Zero of the Zodiac and > > provide unique values not only at 285AD in the conjunction cycle and > > 321 Ad in the opposition cycle but at every 2100 year interval on both > > sides of the zero. > > 5. The patterns emerging are similar to a single one year cycle of > > Jupiter. The elegance and simplicity of the macro linkage of a Jupiter > > cycle of 25800 years with the micro one year cycle is amazingly > > breathtaking. > > 6. Separately, in an ayanamsha adjusted ephemeris, observation of the > > multiple long term cycles of Jupiter conjunctions/opposition with Sun > > reveals that in every 344 years and five days or 319 > > conjunctions/oppositions; Jupiter and Sun return to nearly the same > > point in the Zodiac. This natural cycle like the others which are > known, > > the Metonic cycle; the Saros cycle runs in a series. From any date in > a > > calendar and using an ayanamsha adjusted nirayaana ephemeris, to any > > other date 344 years+4/5 days away will lead to nearly the same > position > > of Jupiter as well as Sun. This is the cycle being termed as the > > Ujjayini Cycle being used to understand the rate of precession. This > > 25800 year cycle at present suggests an average 50.23 arc seconds of > > precession every year. > > > > The data used for analyzing as well as the detailed illustrated study > is > > being posted as a file. The excel charts in themselves reveal the > story > > of the moving zodiac itself deriving the precession from the equinox > in > > any year uniquely. > > > > The sheer simplicity of measuring the precessional values; the elegant > > symphonic and synchronised movements of the cycles over years is what > > nature has provided us and the Lord of Time, Mahakaaleshwar has guided > > me. > > > > Before, I conclude this; I must express my gratitude to Shri PVR > > Narasimha Rao, the creator of Jagannath Hora, without which this study > > could not have been possible. I am also grateful to Shri Sanjay Rath > > whose lucid use of symbols in explaining Jyotisha helped me. > > Finally, I need to convey my thanks and regards to Shri Rohiniranjan, > > poet, philosopher, a veteran student of Jyotisha for forty years and a > > human being par excellence with whom I interacted on this project for > > many months and despite hopeless forays in many blind alleys his > > constant encouragement was a source of inspiration in this effort. > > > > I remain votive to sunshine as always, > > > > Rishi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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