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Dear Lakshmi ji

 

Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have we

ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical points

called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing section

of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

groups).Else ignore.

 

Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol of

birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti while

the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

 

MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi in

the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

representations of Sun and Moon.

 

''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala Katham

Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe Samshayo

Hridi''

 

"Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then his

conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the Moon

as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

 

"Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye of

the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in the

left and right eyes"

"When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union takes

place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse while

the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

 

Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method others

are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let HIM

show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will Realize.I

am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

will guard me.

 

Also if it is useful read the following -

Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology - as

for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find - On

the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins, Sashi

and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna possessed

of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from the

genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with Meru,

the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively carry

the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its orifice -

the sahasrara or brain.

 

Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about acceptance

from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The wise

and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

 

Kindly share your views.

 

Pradeep

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Dear Pradeep,

 

Please accept my compliments for the tantra references given. Few are

aware that grahana is the best time for Tantra sadhana and no muhurta is

necessary to perform them at that time.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Lakshmi ji

>

> Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have we

> ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical points

> called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing section

> of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> groups).Else ignore.

>

> Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

> the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol of

> birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti while

> the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

>

> MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi in

> the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> representations of Sun and Moon.

>

> ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala Katham

> Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe Samshayo

> Hridi''

>

> "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then his

> conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the Moon

> as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

>

> "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye of

> the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in the

> left and right eyes"

> "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union takes

> place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse while

> the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

> kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

>

> Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method others

> are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let HIM

> show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will Realize.I

> am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> will guard me.

>

> Also if it is useful read the following -

> Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology - as

> for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find - On

> the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins, Sashi

> and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna possessed

> of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from the

> genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with Meru,

> the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively carry

> the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its orifice -

> the sahasrara or brain.

>

> Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about acceptance

> from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The wise

> and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

>

> Kindly share your views.

>

> Pradeep

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Pradeep,

 

I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect for

whatever is written by Maharishis.

 

As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious for

doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

good time.

 

I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of spiritual

events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll enjoy

reading them.

 

A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you refer

to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Lakshmi ji

>

> Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have we

> ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

points

> called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing section

> of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> groups).Else ignore.

>

> Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

> the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol of

> birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti while

> the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

>

> MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi in

> the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> representations of Sun and Moon.

>

> ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala Katham

> Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe Samshayo

> Hridi''

>

> "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

his

> conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the Moon

> as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

>

> "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye of

> the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in the

> left and right eyes"

> "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

takes

> place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

while

> the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

> kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

>

> Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

others

> are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

HIM

> show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

Realize.I

> am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> will guard me.

>

> Also if it is useful read the following -

> Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

as

> for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find - On

> the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

Sashi

> and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna possessed

> of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from the

> genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

Meru,

> the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

carry

> the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

orifice -

> the sahasrara or brain.

>

> Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about acceptance

> from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The wise

> and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

>

> Kindly share your views.

>

> Pradeep

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Pradeep,

 

Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

 

Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

Chandrasekhar ji.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

<b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Pradeep,

>

> I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

for

> whatever is written by Maharishis.

>

> As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

for

> doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

> good time.

>

> I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

spiritual

> events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

enjoy

> reading them.

>

> A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

> always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

refer

> to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

> , "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi ji

> >

> > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

we

> > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> points

> > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

section

> > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > groups).Else ignore.

> >

> > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

 

> > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

of

> > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

while

> > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> >

> > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

in

> > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > representations of Sun and Moon.

> >

> > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

Katham

> > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

Samshayo

> > Hridi''

> >

> > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> his

> > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

Moon

> > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> >

> > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

of

> > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

the

> > left and right eyes"

> > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> takes

> > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> while

> > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

is

> > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> >

> > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> others

> > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

> HIM

> > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> Realize.I

> > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > will guard me.

> >

> > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

 

> as

> > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

On

> > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> Sashi

> > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

possessed

> > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

the

> > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> Meru,

> > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> carry

> > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> orifice -

> > the sahasrara or brain.

> >

> > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

acceptance

> > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

wise

> > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> >

> > Kindly share your views.

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

>

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Dear Laxmi ji

 

Please provide URL for your research paper on "Timing of spiritual events on Kalapurusha transits".

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

 

 

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh

> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:41:03 -0000

>

> Re: Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara

> ?

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Pradeep,

>

> I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect for

> whatever is written by Maharishis.

>

> As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious for

> doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

> good time.

>

> I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of spiritual

> events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll enjoy

> reading them.

>

> A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

> always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you refer

> to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

> , "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>>

>> Dear Lakshmi ji

>>

>> Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have we

>> ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> points

>> called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing section

>> of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

>> groups).Else ignore.

>>

>> Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

>> the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol of

>> birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti while

>> the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

>>

>> MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi in

>> the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

>> representations of Sun and Moon.

>>

>> ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala Katham

>> Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe Samshayo

>> Hridi''

>>

>> "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> his

>> conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the Moon

>> as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

>>

>> "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

>> three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye of

>> the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in the

>> left and right eyes"

>> "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> takes

>> place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> while

>> the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

>> kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

>> eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

>>

>> Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> others

>> are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

>> planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

> HIM

>> show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

>> time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> Realize.I

>> am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

>> will guard me.

>>

>> Also if it is useful read the following -

>> Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

> as

>> for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find - On

>> the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> Sashi

>> and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna possessed

>> of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

>> extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

>> pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from the

>> genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> Meru,

>> the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

>> equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> carry

>> the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

>> Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> orifice -

>> the sahasrara or brain.

>>

>> Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about acceptance

>> from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The wise

>> and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

>>

>> Kindly share your views.

>>

>> Pradeep

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Lakshmi ji,

 

I beg to differ. Every time is good for offering prayers whether your Jupiter is good or bad. Grahan or Rikta tithis or Amavasya or Sankranti have been described so for a particular reason and not just because if your Jupiter is good then only you will be able to resort to Puja/Japa/Tapa etc.

 

regards,

 

Manoj

 

b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > wrote: Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Pradeep,

 

I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect for

whatever is written by Maharishis.

 

As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious for

doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

good time.

 

I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of spiritual

events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll enjoy

reading them.

 

A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you refer

to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Lakshmi ji

>

> Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have we

> ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

points

> called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing section

> of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> groups).Else ignore.

>

> Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

> the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol of

> birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti while

> the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

>

> MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi in

> the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> representations of Sun and Moon.

>

> ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala Katham

> Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe Samshayo

> Hridi''

>

> "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

his

> conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the Moon

> as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

>

> "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye of

> the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in the

> left and right eyes"

> "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

takes

> place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

while

> the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

> kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

>

> Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

others

> are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

HIM

> show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

Realize.I

> am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> will guard me.

>

> Also if it is useful read the following -

> Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

as

> for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find - On

> the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

Sashi

> and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna possessed

> of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from the

> genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

Meru,

> the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

carry

> the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

orifice -

> the sahasrara or brain.

>

> Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about acceptance

> from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The wise

> and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

>

> Kindly share your views.

>

> Pradeep

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Manoj kumar ji,

 

I think there's some confusion. I said that prayers during grahana

time give mantra siddhi/extra potency, so prayers/japa/tapa done

during grahana time give higher results. I meant that one's

spiritual endeavours alone turn grahana time into an auspicious

time, otherwise it is not a good time. Do you undertake any other

activity during grahana time? Is it an auspicious time for fixing a

muhurta?

 

I never said prayers should be offered only if Jupiter is strong in

one's chart, or that prayers should not be offered at other times. I

am sorry if you received such an impression. I merely said that the

grahana yoga turns spiritually benefic if jupiter is strong in the

chart, otherwise it's a bad yoga. I request you to read my previous

mail(s) again.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> Dear Lakshmi ji,

>

> I beg to differ. Every time is good for offering prayers whether

your Jupiter is good or bad. Grahan or Rikta tithis or Amavasya or

Sankranti have been described so for a particular reason and not

just because if your Jupiter is good then only you will be able to

resort to Puja/Japa/Tapa etc.

>

> regards,

>

> Manoj

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh

wrote: Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Pradeep,

>

> I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

for

> whatever is written by Maharishis.

>

> As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

for

> doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not

a

> good time.

>

> I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

spiritual

> events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

enjoy

> reading them.

>

> A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini)

is

> always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

refer

> to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> , "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi ji

> >

> > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

we

> > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> points

> > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

section

> > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > groups).Else ignore.

> >

> > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

Moon -

> > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

of

> > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

while

> > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> >

> > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

in

> > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > representations of Sun and Moon.

> >

> > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

Katham

> > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

Samshayo

> > Hridi''

> >

> > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> his

> > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

Moon

> > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> >

> > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times -

of

> > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

of

> > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

the

> > left and right eyes"

> > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> takes

> > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> while

> > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

is

> > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> >

> > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> others

> > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities

(through

> > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

them.Let

> HIM

> > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> Realize.I

> > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > will guard me.

> >

> > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

terminology -

> as

> > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

On

> > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> Sashi

> > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

possessed

> > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

and 'agni' -

> > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

the

> > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> Meru,

> > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> carry

> > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> orifice -

> > the sahasrara or brain.

> >

> > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

acceptance

> > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

wise

> > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> >

> > Kindly share your views.

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail.

>

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Prafulla ji,

 

I do not have a personal website...never felt the need for one:--))

My paper was published in the Apr-June 2005 issue of Jyotish Digest.

I must have a soft copy somewhere. Let me locate it and I will send

it to you.

 

Since Pradeep is interested in tantra, i thought of sharing it:--))

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Laxmi ji

>

> Please provide URL for your research paper on "Timing of spiritual

events on Kalapurusha transits".

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> The difference between a successful person and others is not a

lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

>

>

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:41:03 -0000

> >

> > Re: Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

Parameshwara

> > ?

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Pradeep,

> >

> > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

for

> > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> >

> > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

for

> > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not

a

> > good time.

> >

> > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

spiritual

> > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

enjoy

> > reading them.

> >

> > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini)

is

> > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

refer

> > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> > , "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Lakshmi ji

> >>

> >> Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

we

> >> ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > points

> >> called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

section

> >> of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> >> groups).Else ignore.

> >>

> >> Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

Moon -

> >> the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

of

> >> birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

while

> >> the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> >>

> >> MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

in

> >> the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> >> representations of Sun and Moon.

> >>

> >> ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

Katham

> >> Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

Samshayo

> >> Hridi''

> >>

> >> "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> > his

> >> conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

Moon

> >> as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> >>

> >> "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> >> three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

of

> >> the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

the

> >> left and right eyes"

> >> "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> > takes

> >> place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> > while

> >> the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

is

> >> kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> >> eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> >>

> >> Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > others

> >> are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> >> planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

> > HIM

> >> show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> >> time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > Realize.I

> >> am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> >> will guard me.

> >>

> >> Also if it is useful read the following -

> >> Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

terminology -

> > as

> >> for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

On

> >> the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> > Sashi

> >> and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

possessed

> >> of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

and 'agni' -

> >> extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> >> pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

the

> >> genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> > Meru,

> >> the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> >> equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> > carry

> >> the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> >> Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > orifice -

> >> the sahasrara or brain.

> >>

> >> Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

acceptance

> >> from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

wise

> >> and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> >>

> >> Kindly share your views.

> >>

> >> Pradeep

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Namaste Laxmi ji

 

Many thanks for your kind note. Whenever you can trace your softcopy, I will look forward to read it.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

 

 

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh

> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:56:57 -0000

>

> Re: Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara

> ?

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Prafulla ji,

>

> I do not have a personal website...never felt the need for one:--))

> My paper was published in the Apr-June 2005 issue of Jyotish Digest.

> I must have a soft copy somewhere. Let me locate it and I will send

> it to you.

>

> Since Pradeep is interested in tantra, i thought of sharing it:--))

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Laxmi ji

>>

>> Please provide URL for your research paper on "Timing of spiritual

> events on Kalapurusha transits".

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> The difference between a successful person and others is not a

> lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

>>> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:41:03 -0000

>>>

>>> Re: Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

> Parameshwara

>>> ?

>>>

>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>

>>> Namaste Pradeep,

>>>

>>> I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

> for

>>> whatever is written by Maharishis.

>>>

>>> As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> for

>>> doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

>>> siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

>>> time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

>>> people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not

> a

>>> good time.

>>>

>>> I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> spiritual

>>> events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> enjoy

>>> reading them.

>>>

>>> A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini)

> is

>>> always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

>>> the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> refer

>>> to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Lakshmi

>>>

>>>

>>> , "vijayadas_pradeep"

>>> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Lakshmi ji

>>>>

>>>> Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

> we

>>>> ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

>>> points

>>>> called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> section

>>>> of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

>>>> groups).Else ignore.

>>>>

>>>> Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

> Moon -

>>>> the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

> of

>>>> birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> while

>>>> the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

>>>>

>>>> MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

> in

>>>> the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

>>>> representations of Sun and Moon.

>>>>

>>>> ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> Katham

>>>> Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> Samshayo

>>>> Hridi''

>>>>

>>>> "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

>>> his

>>>> conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> Moon

>>>> as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

>>>>

>>>> "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

>>>> three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

> of

>>>> the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

> the

>>>> left and right eyes"

>>>> "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

>>> takes

>>>> place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

>>> while

>>>> the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

> is

>>>> kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

>>>> eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

>>>>

>>>> Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

>>> others

>>>> are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

>>>> planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

>>> HIM

>>>> show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

>>>> time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

>>> Realize.I

>>>> am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

>>>> will guard me.

>>>>

>>>> Also if it is useful read the following -

>>>> Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> terminology -

>>> as

>>>> for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

> On

>>>> the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

>>> Sashi

>>>> and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> possessed

>>>> of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

> and 'agni' -

>>>> extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

>>>> pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

> the

>>>> genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

>>> Meru,

>>>> the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

>>>> equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

>>> carry

>>>> the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

>>>> Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

>>> orifice -

>>>> the sahasrara or brain.

>>>>

>>>> Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> acceptance

>>>> from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> wise

>>>> and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

>>>>

>>>> Kindly share your views.

>>>>

>>>> Pradeep

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Namaskaar Sri Lakshmi

 

"When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union takes

place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse while

the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

 

The joining of Shiva-Shakti is the creation. The eclipse shows that, since

the awareness within is considered as separate entity due to the eclipse.

This, in tantra, is considered as dance of shiva. Shakti is that dance. They

aren't separate. This is the meaning. Therefore, Rahu- the Kala - time of

past and future...the one seemingly endless (quality of Brahman) and

ofcourse master of three gunas (as representing Shakti) is nothing but Shiva

in Truth.

 

This is no way proves the Sun represents the Ego. Btw, this message is only

for YOU and some others and should not be construed as a reply to Sri

Pradeep. So certainly not for Sri Pradeep.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Divine Lakshmi,

Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini, awakened or

dormant.

Chandrashekhar.

 

b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Pradeep,

>

> Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

>

> Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> Chandrasekhar ji.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

> <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Pradeep,

> >

> > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

> for

> > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> >

> > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> for

> > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

> > good time.

> >

> > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> spiritual

> > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> enjoy

> > reading them.

> >

> > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

> > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> refer

> > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > >

> > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

> we

> > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > points

> > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> section

> > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > groups).Else ignore.

> > >

> > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

>

> > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

> of

> > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> while

> > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > >

> > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

> in

> > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > >

> > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> Katham

> > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> Samshayo

> > > Hridi''

> > >

> > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> > his

> > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> Moon

> > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> > >

> > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

> of

> > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

> the

> > > left and right eyes"

> > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> > takes

> > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> > while

> > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

> is

> > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > >

> > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > others

> > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

> > HIM

> > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > Realize.I

> > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > will guard me.

> > >

> > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

>

> > as

> > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

> On

> > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> > Sashi

> > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> possessed

> > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

>

> > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

> the

> > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> > Meru,

> > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> > carry

> > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > orifice -

> > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > >

> > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> acceptance

> > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> wise

> > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > >

> > > Kindly share your views.

> > >

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

>

>

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>

>

>

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks for the compliments and will pass it on,and also for sharing

your understanding about the auspisciousness of such times for Tantra

sadhana.

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> Please accept my compliments for the tantra references given. Few are

> aware that grahana is the best time for Tantra sadhana and no

muhurta is

> necessary to perform them at that time.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi ji

> >

> > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have we

> > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical points

> > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing section

> > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > groups).Else ignore.

> >

> > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

> > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol of

> > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti while

> > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> >

> > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi in

> > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > representations of Sun and Moon.

> >

> > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala Katham

> > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe Samshayo

> > Hridi''

> >

> > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then his

> > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the Moon

> > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> >

> > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye of

> > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in the

> > left and right eyes"

> > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union takes

> > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse while

> > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna is

> > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> >

> > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method others

> > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let HIM

> > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will Realize.I

> > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > will guard me.

> >

> > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology - as

> > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find - On

> > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins, Sashi

> > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna possessed

> > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from the

> > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with Meru,

> > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively carry

> > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its orifice -

> > the sahasrara or brain.

> >

> > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about acceptance

> > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The wise

> > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> >

> > Kindly share your views.

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Lakshmi ji

 

Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it seems at

the chitta level it is always there though one may not be feeling

it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

 

I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

 

Pradeep

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini, awakened or

> dormant.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Pradeep,

> >

> > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> >

> > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > Chandrasekhar ji.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > >

> > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

> > for

> > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > >

> > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> > for

> > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

> > > good time.

> > >

> > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > spiritual

> > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> > enjoy

> > > reading them.

> > >

> > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

> > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> > refer

> > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > >

> > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

> > we

> > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > > points

> > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > section

> > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > >

> > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

> >

> > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

> > of

> > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> > while

> > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > > >

> > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

> > in

> > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > >

> > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > Katham

> > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > Samshayo

> > > > Hridi''

> > > >

> > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> > > his

> > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> > Moon

> > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> > > >

> > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

> > of

> > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

> > the

> > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> > > takes

> > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> > > while

> > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

> > is

> > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > >

> > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > > others

> > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

> > > HIM

> > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > Realize.I

> > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > will guard me.

> > > >

> > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

> >

> > > as

> > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

> > On

> > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> > > Sashi

> > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > possessed

> > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> >

> > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

> > the

> > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> > > Meru,

> > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> > > carry

> > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > orifice -

> > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > >

> > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > acceptance

> > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> > wise

> > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > >

> > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > >

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

 

Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of potential

only. Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I think:

 

There's a bulb in the room and it's connected to the power source,

but the switch is "off". The power to light the bulb, all the

infrastructure is present, but does the bulb shine?

 

Unless the switch is reversed to "on" position, power will not flow

through the wires and make the bulb glow, aiding our vision. I was

discussing about that crucial "switch" which will allow passage of

power, so that the Light manifests.

 

There's a huge difference between kundalini as "Kula" and

as "Akula". But, as I do not intend entering into a full scale

discussion on tantra, it's sufficient to say that the upward journey

of Kundalini is an epic journey of all of us...from untruth to

Truth, from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality...

 

asatoma sadgamaya

tamasoma jyotirgamaya

mrityorma amritamgamaya

 

Om Shanti! Shanti! ShantiH

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

awakened or

> dormant.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Pradeep,

> >

> > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> >

> > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > Chandrasekhar ji.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > >

> > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

respect

> > for

> > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > >

> > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> > for

> > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great

mantra

> > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

grahana

> > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong.

If

> > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is

not a

> > > good time.

> > >

> > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > spiritual

> > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> > enjoy

> > > reading them.

> > >

> > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

tantra/kundalini) is

> > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

representing

> > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> > refer

> > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > >

> > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

footing.Have

> > we

> > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > > points

> > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > section

> > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > >

> > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

Moon -

> >

> > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the

symbol

> > of

> > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> > while

> > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > > >

> > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

Sikhi

> > in

> > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > >

> > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > Katham

> > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > Samshayo

> > > > Hridi''

> > > >

> > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How

then

> > > his

> > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> > Moon

> > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

later"

> > > >

> > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times -

of

> > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the

eye

> > of

> > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun

in

> > the

> > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti

union

> > > takes

> > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

eclipse

> > > while

> > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

sushumna

> > is

> > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > >

> > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > > others

> > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities

(through

> > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

them.Let

> > > HIM

> > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests

of

> > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > Realize.I

> > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > will guard me.

> > > >

> > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

terminology -

> >

> > > as

> > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

find -

> > On

> > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two

veins,

> > > Sashi

> > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > possessed

> > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

and 'agni' -

> >

> > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string

of

> > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi

from

> > the

> > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated

with

> > > Meru,

> > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been

made

> > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

respectively

> > > carry

> > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

equivalent

> > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > orifice -

> > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > >

> > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > acceptance

> > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> > wise

> > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > >

> > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > >

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Dear Pradeep,

 

You are right. Kundalini is Shakti, without which there can be no

Chetana therefore, in living beings, dormant or arisen it is essential

for life, hence auspicious.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Lakshmi ji

>

> Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it seems at

> the chitta level it is always there though one may not be feeling

> it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

>

> I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

>

> Pradeep

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini, awakened or

> > dormant.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

> > > for

> > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > >

> > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> > > for

> > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the grahana

> > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is not a

> > > > good time.

> > > >

> > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > spiritual

> > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> > > enjoy

> > > > reading them.

> > > >

> > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun, representing

> > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> > > refer

> > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical footing.Have

> > > we

> > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > > > points

> > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > > section

> > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > >

> > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of Moon -

> > >

> > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

> > > of

> > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> > > while

> > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > > > >

> > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and Sikhi

> > > in

> > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > Katham

> > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > Samshayo

> > > > > Hridi''

> > > > >

> > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How then

> > > > his

> > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> > > Moon

> > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest later"

> > > > >

> > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times - of

> > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the eye

> > > of

> > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

> > > the

> > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> > > > takes

> > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> > > > while

> > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

> > > is

> > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > >

> > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > > > others

> > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities(through

> > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards them.Let

> > > > HIM

> > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests of

> > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > Realize.I

> > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > > will guard me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical terminology -

> > >

> > > > as

> > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can find -

> > > On

> > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> > > > Sashi

> > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > possessed

> > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and 'agni' -

> > >

> > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string of

> > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

> > > the

> > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> > > > Meru,

> > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been made

> > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> > > > carry

> > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > > orifice -

> > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > acceptance

> > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> > > wise

> > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Divine Lakshmi,

 

I agree that this is not a place to discuss tantra or yoga. That is why

I did not say anything about the Swarupa of Kundalini. Only that it is

auspicious, whether risen or not.

 

However let me put it this way, what you are referring to as the bulb,

happens to be the generator. That is why Kundalini is referred to be

like Vidullekha.

 

Kula and Akula tantra do not distinguish between where the energy lies,

to the best of my knowledge. And there is something called Yamala which

recognizes this fact. Actually as Shakti is Kula so is Shiva called

Akula per Kulachudamani Tantra.

 

Chandrashekhar.

b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

>

> Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of potential

> only. Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I think:

>

> There's a bulb in the room and it's connected to the power source,

> but the switch is "off". The power to light the bulb, all the

> infrastructure is present, but does the bulb shine?

>

> Unless the switch is reversed to "on" position, power will not flow

> through the wires and make the bulb glow, aiding our vision. I was

> discussing about that crucial "switch" which will allow passage of

> power, so that the Light manifests.

>

> There's a huge difference between kundalini as "Kula" and

> as "Akula". But, as I do not intend entering into a full scale

> discussion on tantra, it's sufficient to say that the upward journey

> of Kundalini is an epic journey of all of us...from untruth to

> Truth, from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality...

>

> asatoma sadgamaya

> tamasoma jyotirgamaya

> mrityorma amritamgamaya

>

> Om Shanti! Shanti! ShantiH

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> awakened or

> > dormant.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

> respect

> > > for

> > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > >

> > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> > > for

> > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great

> mantra

> > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

> grahana

> > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong.

> If

> > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is

> not a

> > > > good time.

> > > >

> > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > spiritual

> > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> > > enjoy

> > > > reading them.

> > > >

> > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> representing

> > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> > > refer

> > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> footing.Have

> > > we

> > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > > > points

> > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > > section

> > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > >

> > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

> Moon -

> > >

> > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the

> symbol

> > > of

> > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> > > while

> > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > > > >

> > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

> Sikhi

> > > in

> > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > Katham

> > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > Samshayo

> > > > > Hridi''

> > > > >

> > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How

> then

> > > > his

> > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> > > Moon

> > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

> later"

> > > > >

> > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious times -

> of

> > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In the

> eye

> > > of

> > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun

> in

> > > the

> > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti

> union

> > > > takes

> > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

> eclipse

> > > > while

> > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

> sushumna

> > > is

> > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > >

> > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > > > others

> > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities

> (through

> > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

> them.Let

> > > > HIM

> > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the tests

> of

> > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > Realize.I

> > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > > will guard me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> terminology -

> > >

> > > > as

> > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

> find -

> > > On

> > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two

> veins,

> > > > Sashi

> > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > possessed

> > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

> and 'agni' -

> > >

> > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a string

> of

> > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi

> from

> > > the

> > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated

> with

> > > > Meru,

> > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been

> made

> > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> respectively

> > > > carry

> > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> equivalent

> > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > > orifice -

> > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > acceptance

> > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> > > wise

> > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -------------------------

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> > >

> > >

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks for the explanation.I could read another article from shri

Chandrahari.He says -how difficult is it ,to go deep and understand

the mysteries of mind,and to control it!!!.Tantra Vidya is hence the

vidya discovered by sages to cross this Vaitharani.

 

Jyotisha is the study of antharika jyothis through the external

Jyothis.And internal Jyothis is the shakthi called Kundalini.Thus your

views are same as his.

 

He says many 'scholars' repeat shastras as parrots do ,but none has

attained any mukthi, just because of that.

True spirituality-The Prayaana towards Mukthi - is not rhetoric nor

Tarka.It is a Karma Padhathi.Culmination of Intellectual

seeking(anweshana).It is a shastra.This shastra is Tantra.

Through the realization of the shakthi called Kundalini,one escapes

Maya,seperating Vasana bandhas and Pashu becomes Pashupathi.This

pashupathi man is Mrityunjayan.One to one correspondence betwen

pindanda and Brahmanda is then made and as mentioned before moolam and

its significance.

 

Mahakala called Sadashiva,Shakthi called Sree Parvathi and all other

Lords are just parts of Kaala Kundalini.

 

The wonder child and Shad Chakradhishtitha Yantra called Man is the

result of Parinaya between Kaala-Jeeva shakthis.In this Yantra, Kaala

transforms as Yogashakthi and Man becomes MahaKaala.

 

The mathematical celestial modelling(Khagoleeya Ganitavatkarana) of

this Mahakaala manushya is JyotisChakra.He says Deepavali or Diwali is

a celebration about Man,Prapancha and his Antarika Jyotiss.

 

Chandrashekhar ji is there any indicator for Chittam in Jyotish.Can

5th house be linked to this?It is just my doubt.5th is only called

Pratibha.

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> You are right. Kundalini is Shakti, without which there can be no

> Chetana therefore, in living beings, dormant or arisen it is essential

> for life, hence auspicious.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi ji

> >

> > Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it seems at

> > the chitta level it is always there though one may not be feeling

> > it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

> >

> > I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

awakened or

> > > dormant.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

> > > > for

> > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > >

> > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> > > > for

> > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

grahana

> > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is

not a

> > > > > good time.

> > > > >

> > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> > > > enjoy

> > > > > reading them.

> > > > >

> > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

representing

> > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> > > > refer

> > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

footing.Have

> > > > we

> > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > > > > points

> > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > > > section

> > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

Moon -

> > > >

> > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

> > > > of

> > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> > > > while

> > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

Sikhi

> > > > in

> > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > Katham

> > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How

then

> > > > > his

> > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

later"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

times - of

> > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In

the eye

> > > > of

> > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

> > > > the

> > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> > > > > takes

> > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> > > > > while

> > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

> > > > is

> > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > > > > others

> > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

responsibilities(through

> > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

them.Let

> > > > > HIM

> > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

tests of

> > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

terminology -

> > > >

> > > > > as

> > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

find -

> > > > On

> > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > > possessed

> > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and

'agni' -

> > > >

> > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

string of

> > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

> > > > the

> > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been

made

> > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> > > > > carry

> > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > acceptance

> > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> > > > wise

> > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > -------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > 8/31/2006

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

 

Chandrasekhar ji: Only that it is

> auspicious, whether risen or not.

>

 

Lakshmi: Then if sleeping kundalini is equal to awakened kundalini,

can you tell me why sadhakas go to great lengths to awaken it? You

and I may not know it, but they know the tremendous difference it

can make:--))

 

> However let me put it this way, what you are referring to as the

bulb,

> happens to be the generator. That is why Kundalini is referred to

be

> like Vidullekha.

 

Lakshmi: Sir, i don't think you've understood my point at all and

request you to read the example again. I referred to kundalini as

the power/electricity and not as the bulb!!

 

> Kula and Akula tantra do not distinguish between where the energy

lies,

> to the best of my knowledge. And there is something called Yamala

which

> recognizes this fact. Actually as Shakti is Kula so is Shiva

called

> Akula per Kulachudamani Tantra.

 

Lakshmi: "Kula" is base of mooladhara, where Kundalini lies, as tri-

gunamayi, as moolaprakriti fraught with differentiations. "Akula"

is sahasraara, where the gunas and differentiations cease. Kula

is "chit" while akula is "sat-chit-ananda"!! Isn't there a

difference?

 

However, if you feel that there's no differece between asat and Sat,

between tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita...then there's no

necessity/relevance for this discussion, because the entire concept

of Kundalini and its ascension hinges on this.

 

I better stop here.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

>

> Chandrashekhar.

> b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

> >

> > Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of potential

> > only. Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I think:

> >

> > There's a bulb in the room and it's connected to the power

source,

> > but the switch is "off". The power to light the bulb, all the

> > infrastructure is present, but does the bulb shine?

> >

> > Unless the switch is reversed to "on" position, power will not

flow

> > through the wires and make the bulb glow, aiding our vision. I

was

> > discussing about that crucial "switch" which will allow passage

of

> > power, so that the Light manifests.

> >

> > There's a huge difference between kundalini as "Kula" and

> > as "Akula". But, as I do not intend entering into a full scale

> > discussion on tantra, it's sufficient to say that the upward

journey

> > of Kundalini is an epic journey of all of us...from untruth to

> > Truth, from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality...

> >

> > asatoma sadgamaya

> > tamasoma jyotirgamaya

> > mrityorma amritamgamaya

> >

> > Om Shanti! Shanti! ShantiH

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> > awakened or

> > > dormant.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at

the

> > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and

of

> > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

> > respect

> > > > for

> > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > >

> > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

auspicious

> > > > for

> > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great

> > mantra

> > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

> > grahana

> > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

strong.

> > If

> > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana

is

> > not a

> > > > > good time.

> > > > >

> > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure

you'll

> > > > enjoy

> > > > > reading them.

> > > > >

> > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > representing

> > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If

you

> > > > refer

> > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same

thing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > footing.Have

> > > > we

> > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

mathematical

> > > > > points

> > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the

followoing

> > > > section

> > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

 

> > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes

of

> > Moon -

> > > >

> > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the

> > symbol

> > > > of

> > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

death/liberation/mukti

> > > > while

> > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

pursuits.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

> > Sikhi

> > > > in

> > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > Katham

> > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord.

How

> > then

> > > > > his

> > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same

with the

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

> > later"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

times -

> > of

> > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In

the

> > eye

> > > > of

> > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and

Sun

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti

> > union

> > > > > takes

> > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

> > eclipse

> > > > > while

> > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

> > sushumna

> > > > is

> > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas

and at

> > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what

method

> > > > > others

> > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities

> > (through

> > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

> > them.Let

> > > > > HIM

> > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

tests

> > of

> > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-

HE

> > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > terminology -

> > > >

> > > > > as

> > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

> > find -

> > > > On

> > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two

> > veins,

> > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > > possessed

> > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

> > and 'agni' -

> > > >

> > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

string

> > of

> > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated

> > with

> > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have

been

> > made

> > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> > respectively

> > > > > carry

> > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> > equivalent

> > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and

its

> > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > acceptance

> > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

Knowledge.The

> > > > wise

> > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > -------

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Dear Pradeep,

 

Yes Chandrahari is right. That is why we map the rasis and bhavas on the

Kala Purusha.

 

Chittam or better Mana, is all pervading, beyond control and

ever-changing. That is why it is represented by Chandra and no bhava or

house can be attributed to it. That again is why in Jyotish the grahas

draw their strength from the strength of Chandra. It is this Chittam

that a yogi tries to control not by trying to bind it but by looking at

its play as an outside witness. It is only then that it becomes one pointed.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks for the explanation.I could read another article from shri

> Chandrahari.He says -how difficult is it ,to go deep and understand

> the mysteries of mind,and to control it!!!.Tantra Vidya is hence the

> vidya discovered by sages to cross this Vaitharani.

>

> Jyotisha is the study of antharika jyothis through the external

> Jyothis.And internal Jyothis is the shakthi called Kundalini.Thus your

> views are same as his.

>

> He says many 'scholars' repeat shastras as parrots do ,but none has

> attained any mukthi, just because of that.

> True spirituality-The Prayaana towards Mukthi - is not rhetoric nor

> Tarka.It is a Karma Padhathi.Culmination of Intellectual

> seeking(anweshana).It is a shastra.This shastra is Tantra.

> Through the realization of the shakthi called Kundalini,one escapes

> Maya,seperating Vasana bandhas and Pashu becomes Pashupathi.This

> pashupathi man is Mrityunjayan.One to one correspondence betwen

> pindanda and Brahmanda is then made and as mentioned before moolam and

> its significance.

>

> Mahakala called Sadashiva,Shakthi called Sree Parvathi and all other

> Lords are just parts of Kaala Kundalini.

>

> The wonder child and Shad Chakradhishtitha Yantra called Man is the

> result of Parinaya between Kaala-Jeeva shakthis.In this Yantra, Kaala

> transforms as Yogashakthi and Man becomes MahaKaala.

>

> The mathematical celestial modelling(Khagoleeya Ganitavatkarana) of

> this Mahakaala manushya is JyotisChakra.He says Deepavali or Diwali is

> a celebration about Man,Prapancha and his Antarika Jyotiss.

>

> Chandrashekhar ji is there any indicator for Chittam in Jyotish.Can

> 5th house be linked to this?It is just my doubt.5th is only called

> Pratibha.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > You are right. Kundalini is Shakti, without which there can be no

> > Chetana therefore, in living beings, dormant or arisen it is essential

> > for life, hence auspicious.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it seems at

> > > the chitta level it is always there though one may not be feeling

> > > it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

> > >

> > > I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

> > >

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> awakened or

> > > > dormant.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at the

> > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great respect

> > > > > for

> > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very auspicious

> > > > > for

> > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great mantra

> > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

> grahana

> > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is strong. If

> > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is

> not a

> > > > > > good time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure you'll

> > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> representing

> > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If you

> > > > > refer

> > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same thing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> footing.Have

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover mathematical

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > > > > section

> > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

> Moon -

> > > > >

> > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the symbol

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > while

> > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual pursuits.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

> Sikhi

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How

> then

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same with the

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

> later"

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

> times - of

> > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In

> the eye

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and Sun in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti union

> > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar eclipse

> > > > > > while

> > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the sushumna

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas and at

> > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what method

> > > > > > others

> > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

> responsibilities(through

> > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

> them.Let

> > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

> tests of

> > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> terminology -

> > > > >

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

> find -

> > > > > On

> > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two veins,

> > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and

> 'agni' -

> > > > >

> > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

> string of

> > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi from

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated with

> > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been

> made

> > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which respectively

> > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as equivalent

> > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR Knowledge.The

> > > > > wise

> > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date:

> > > 8/31/2006

> > > > >

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Dear Divine Lakshmi,

 

I am at a loss to understand the direction in which you are thinking.

You said :

 

_" Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of potential only.

Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I think: There's a bulb

in the room and it's connected to the power source, but the switch is

"off". The power to light the bulb, all the infrastructure is present,

but does the bulb shine?__"_

 

Now if Kundalini is the generator in your example, what is the Bulb and

what is the switch since the discussion centered on sleeping and

awakened Kundalini, if I remember right.

 

Sadhakas do not try to awaken the Kundalini only because it is

auspicious, which it is, it is to know the svarupa of Para Brahman within.

 

I am also not capable of understanding what you are driving at when you say:

 

_ "if you feel that there's no difference between asat and Sat, between

tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita.." _, on the one hand and then

say that Kula is Chit and Akula is Sat-Chit-Anand. Do you mean that the

Kundalini shakti can give out its beneficial effulgence without the

existence of Shiva in Sahasrara?

 

What is Kula and what is Akula is well defined and redefining it may be

a new trend that I am not familiar with. I do not think the terms used

in Tantra shastra are open to redefinition.

 

Chandrashekhar

 

b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

>

> Chandrasekhar ji: Only that it is

> > auspicious, whether risen or not.

> >

>

> Lakshmi: Then if sleeping kundalini is equal to awakened kundalini,

> can you tell me why sadhakas go to great lengths to awaken it? You

> and I may not know it, but they know the tremendous difference it

> can make:--))

>

> > However let me put it this way, what you are referring to as the

> bulb,

> > happens to be the generator. That is why Kundalini is referred to

> be

> > like Vidullekha.

>

> Lakshmi: Sir, i don't think you've understood my point at all and

> request you to read the example again. I referred to kundalini as

> the power/electricity and not as the bulb!!

>

> > Kula and Akula tantra do not distinguish between where the energy

> lies,

> > to the best of my knowledge. And there is something called Yamala

> which

> > recognizes this fact. Actually as Shakti is Kula so is Shiva

> called

> > Akula per Kulachudamani Tantra.

>

> Lakshmi: "Kula" is base of mooladhara, where Kundalini lies, as tri-

> gunamayi, as moolaprakriti fraught with differentiations. "Akula"

> is sahasraara, where the gunas and differentiations cease. Kula

> is "chit" while akula is "sat-chit-ananda"!! Isn't there a

> difference?

>

> However, if you feel that there's no differece between asat and Sat,

> between tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita...then there's no

> necessity/relevance for this discussion, because the entire concept

> of Kundalini and its ascension hinges on this.

>

> I better stop here.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

> > >

> > > Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of potential

> > > only. Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I think:

> > >

> > > There's a bulb in the room and it's connected to the power

> source,

> > > but the switch is "off". The power to light the bulb, all the

> > > infrastructure is present, but does the bulb shine?

> > >

> > > Unless the switch is reversed to "on" position, power will not

> flow

> > > through the wires and make the bulb glow, aiding our vision. I

> was

> > > discussing about that crucial "switch" which will allow passage

> of

> > > power, so that the Light manifests.

> > >

> > > There's a huge difference between kundalini as "Kula" and

> > > as "Akula". But, as I do not intend entering into a full scale

> > > discussion on tantra, it's sufficient to say that the upward

> journey

> > > of Kundalini is an epic journey of all of us...from untruth to

> > > Truth, from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality...

> > >

> > > asatoma sadgamaya

> > > tamasoma jyotirgamaya

> > > mrityorma amritamgamaya

> > >

> > > Om Shanti! Shanti! ShantiH

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> > > awakened or

> > > > dormant.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying at

> the

> > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and

> of

> > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

> > > respect

> > > > > for

> > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

> auspicious

> > > > > for

> > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow great

> > > mantra

> > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

> > > grahana

> > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

> strong.

> > > If

> > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana

> is

> > > not a

> > > > > > good time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure

> you'll

> > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > > representing

> > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva. If

> you

> > > > > refer

> > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same

> thing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > > footing.Have

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

> mathematical

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the

> followoing

> > > > > section

> > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

>

> > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes

> of

> > > Moon -

> > > > >

> > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became the

> > > symbol

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

> death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > while

> > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

> pursuits.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

> > > Sikhi

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

> Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord.

> How

> > > then

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same

> with the

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

> > > later"

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

> times -

> > > of

> > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In

> the

> > > eye

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon and

> Sun

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and SivaSakti

> > > union

> > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

> > > eclipse

> > > > > > while

> > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

> > > sushumna

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas

> and at

> > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what

> method

> > > > > > others

> > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my responsibilities

> > > (through

> > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

> > > them.Let

> > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

> tests

> > > of

> > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-

> HE

> > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > > terminology -

> > > > >

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

> > > find -

> > > > > On

> > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the two

> > > veins,

> > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

> > > and 'agni' -

> > > > >

> > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

> string

> > > of

> > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-Nadi

> > > from

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is equated

> > > with

> > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have

> been

> > > made

> > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> > > respectively

> > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> > > equivalent

> > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and

> its

> > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

> Knowledge.The

> > > > > wise

> > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

It is great to Know this.I have read that chitta is consciousness and

is also one among the complex composite function called mind.Madness

is also called ChittaBhrama.So Moon is the overall Karaka for the

complex function called mind?.Intelligence/Ahamkara/Chitta/and the

working space called manas coming under this umbrella.

 

But after your explanation i think it is better to understand Chitta

as consciousness or BODHA which is ever present ,no matter one

recognizes or not.It makes one conscious and Kundalini the chetana.As

you have said only this chethana can nourish other grahas.

 

This Pournami day of lunar eclipse was good to learn this.

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> Yes Chandrahari is right. That is why we map the rasis and bhavas on

the

> Kala Purusha.

>

> Chittam or better Mana, is all pervading, beyond control and

> ever-changing. That is why it is represented by Chandra and no bhava or

> house can be attributed to it. That again is why in Jyotish the grahas

> draw their strength from the strength of Chandra. It is this Chittam

> that a yogi tries to control not by trying to bind it but by looking at

> its play as an outside witness. It is only then that it becomes one

pointed.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks for the explanation.I could read another article from shri

> > Chandrahari.He says -how difficult is it ,to go deep and understand

> > the mysteries of mind,and to control it!!!.Tantra Vidya is hence the

> > vidya discovered by sages to cross this Vaitharani.

> >

> > Jyotisha is the study of antharika jyothis through the external

> > Jyothis.And internal Jyothis is the shakthi called Kundalini.Thus your

> > views are same as his.

> >

> > He says many 'scholars' repeat shastras as parrots do ,but none has

> > attained any mukthi, just because of that.

> > True spirituality-The Prayaana towards Mukthi - is not rhetoric nor

> > Tarka.It is a Karma Padhathi.Culmination of Intellectual

> > seeking(anweshana).It is a shastra.This shastra is Tantra.

> > Through the realization of the shakthi called Kundalini,one escapes

> > Maya,seperating Vasana bandhas and Pashu becomes Pashupathi.This

> > pashupathi man is Mrityunjayan.One to one correspondence betwen

> > pindanda and Brahmanda is then made and as mentioned before moolam and

> > its significance.

> >

> > Mahakala called Sadashiva,Shakthi called Sree Parvathi and all other

> > Lords are just parts of Kaala Kundalini.

> >

> > The wonder child and Shad Chakradhishtitha Yantra called Man is the

> > result of Parinaya between Kaala-Jeeva shakthis.In this Yantra, Kaala

> > transforms as Yogashakthi and Man becomes MahaKaala.

> >

> > The mathematical celestial modelling(Khagoleeya Ganitavatkarana) of

> > this Mahakaala manushya is JyotisChakra.He says Deepavali or Diwali is

> > a celebration about Man,Prapancha and his Antarika Jyotiss.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar ji is there any indicator for Chittam in Jyotish.Can

> > 5th house be linked to this?It is just my doubt.5th is only called

> > Pratibha.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > You are right. Kundalini is Shakti, without which there can be no

> > > Chetana therefore, in living beings, dormant or arisen it is

essential

> > > for life, hence auspicious.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it

seems at

> > > > the chitta level it is always there though one may not be feeling

> > > > it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

> > > >

> > > > I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

> > > >

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> > awakened or

> > > > > dormant.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying

at the

> > > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

respect

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

auspicious

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow

great mantra

> > > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

> > grahana

> > > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

strong. If

> > > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is

> > not a

> > > > > > > good time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure

you'll

> > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > representing

> > > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva.

If you

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same

thing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > footing.Have

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

mathematical

> > > > > > > points

> > > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > > > > > section

> > > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

 

> > > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

> > Moon -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became

the symbol

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

pursuits.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

> > Sikhi

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How

> > then

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same

with the

> > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

> > later"

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

> > times - of

> > > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In

> > the eye

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon

and Sun in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and

SivaSakti union

> > > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

eclipse

> > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

sushumna

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas

and at

> > > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what

method

> > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

> > responsibilities(through

> > > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

> > them.Let

> > > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

> > tests of

> > > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > terminology -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

> > find -

> > > > > > On

> > > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the

two veins,

> > > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and

> > 'agni' -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

> > string of

> > > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining

Vajra-Nadi from

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is

equated with

> > > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been

> > made

> > > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

respectively

> > > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

equivalent

> > > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

Knowledge.The

> > > > > > wise

> > > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > 8/31/2006

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Dear Pradeep,

 

You have understood it right. It is interesting that this topic of

Chandra came up today.

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> It is great to Know this.I have read that chitta is consciousness and

> is also one among the complex composite function called mind.Madness

> is also called ChittaBhrama.So Moon is the overall Karaka for the

> complex function called mind?.Intelligence/Ahamkara/Chitta/and the

> working space called manas coming under this umbrella.

>

> But after your explanation i think it is better to understand Chitta

> as consciousness or BODHA which is ever present ,no matter one

> recognizes or not.It makes one conscious and Kundalini the chetana.As

> you have said only this chethana can nourish other grahas.

>

> This Pournami day of lunar eclipse was good to learn this.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > Yes Chandrahari is right. That is why we map the rasis and bhavas on

> the

> > Kala Purusha.

> >

> > Chittam or better Mana, is all pervading, beyond control and

> > ever-changing. That is why it is represented by Chandra and no bhava or

> > house can be attributed to it. That again is why in Jyotish the grahas

> > draw their strength from the strength of Chandra. It is this Chittam

> > that a yogi tries to control not by trying to bind it but by looking at

> > its play as an outside witness. It is only then that it becomes one

> pointed.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for the explanation.I could read another article from shri

> > > Chandrahari.He says -how difficult is it ,to go deep and understand

> > > the mysteries of mind,and to control it!!!.Tantra Vidya is hence the

> > > vidya discovered by sages to cross this Vaitharani.

> > >

> > > Jyotisha is the study of antharika jyothis through the external

> > > Jyothis.And internal Jyothis is the shakthi called Kundalini.Thus your

> > > views are same as his.

> > >

> > > He says many 'scholars' repeat shastras as parrots do ,but none has

> > > attained any mukthi, just because of that.

> > > True spirituality-The Prayaana towards Mukthi - is not rhetoric nor

> > > Tarka.It is a Karma Padhathi.Culmination of Intellectual

> > > seeking(anweshana).It is a shastra.This shastra is Tantra.

> > > Through the realization of the shakthi called Kundalini,one escapes

> > > Maya,seperating Vasana bandhas and Pashu becomes Pashupathi.This

> > > pashupathi man is Mrityunjayan.One to one correspondence betwen

> > > pindanda and Brahmanda is then made and as mentioned before moolam and

> > > its significance.

> > >

> > > Mahakala called Sadashiva,Shakthi called Sree Parvathi and all other

> > > Lords are just parts of Kaala Kundalini.

> > >

> > > The wonder child and Shad Chakradhishtitha Yantra called Man is the

> > > result of Parinaya between Kaala-Jeeva shakthis.In this Yantra, Kaala

> > > transforms as Yogashakthi and Man becomes MahaKaala.

> > >

> > > The mathematical celestial modelling(Khagoleeya Ganitavatkarana) of

> > > this Mahakaala manushya is JyotisChakra.He says Deepavali or Diwali is

> > > a celebration about Man,Prapancha and his Antarika Jyotiss.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar ji is there any indicator for Chittam in Jyotish.Can

> > > 5th house be linked to this?It is just my doubt.5th is only called

> > > Pratibha.

> > >

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > You are right. Kundalini is Shakti, without which there can be no

> > > > Chetana therefore, in living beings, dormant or arisen it is

> essential

> > > > for life, hence auspicious.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it

> seems at

> > > > > the chitta level it is always there though one may not be feeling

> > > > > it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> > > awakened or

> > > > > > dormant.

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying

> at the

> > > > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you and of

> > > > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > <%40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

> respect

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

> auspicious

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow

> great mantra

> > > > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained, the

> > > grahana

> > > > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

> strong. If

> > > > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time, grahana is

> > > not a

> > > > > > > > good time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing of

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure

> you'll

> > > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > > representing

> > > > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva.

> If you

> > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same

> thing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > <%40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > > footing.Have

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

> mathematical

> > > > > > > > points

> > > > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the followoing

> > > > > > > section

> > > > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

>

> > > > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the Nodes of

> > > Moon -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became

> the symbol

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

> death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

> pursuits.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of RAhu and

> > > Sikhi

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha IthiMe

> > > > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great Lord. How

> > > then

> > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same

> with the

> > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the rest

> > > later"

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

> > > times - of

> > > > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni). In

> > > the eye

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon

> and Sun in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and

> SivaSakti union

> > > > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

> eclipse

> > > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

> sushumna

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas

> and at

> > > > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what

> method

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

> > > responsibilities(through

> > > > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred towards

> > > them.Let

> > > > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

> > > tests of

> > > > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students will

> > > > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing else-HE

> > > > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > > terminology -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we can

> > > find -

> > > > > > > On

> > > > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the

> two veins,

> > > > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed Susumna

> > > > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun and

> > > 'agni' -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

> > > string of

> > > > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining

> Vajra-Nadi from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is

> equated with

> > > > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have been

> > > made

> > > > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> respectively

> > > > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> equivalent

> > > > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon and its

> > > > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

> Knowledge.The

> > > > > > > wise

> > > > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks

 

Pradeep

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> You have understood it right. It is interesting that this topic of

> Chandra came up today.

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > It is great to Know this.I have read that chitta is consciousness and

> > is also one among the complex composite function called mind.Madness

> > is also called ChittaBhrama.So Moon is the overall Karaka for the

> > complex function called mind?.Intelligence/Ahamkara/Chitta/and the

> > working space called manas coming under this umbrella.

> >

> > But after your explanation i think it is better to understand Chitta

> > as consciousness or BODHA which is ever present ,no matter one

> > recognizes or not.It makes one conscious and Kundalini the chetana.As

> > you have said only this chethana can nourish other grahas.

> >

> > This Pournami day of lunar eclipse was good to learn this.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > Yes Chandrahari is right. That is why we map the rasis and bhavas on

> > the

> > > Kala Purusha.

> > >

> > > Chittam or better Mana, is all pervading, beyond control and

> > > ever-changing. That is why it is represented by Chandra and no

bhava or

> > > house can be attributed to it. That again is why in Jyotish the

grahas

> > > draw their strength from the strength of Chandra. It is this Chittam

> > > that a yogi tries to control not by trying to bind it but by

looking at

> > > its play as an outside witness. It is only then that it becomes one

> > pointed.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the explanation.I could read another article from shri

> > > > Chandrahari.He says -how difficult is it ,to go deep and

understand

> > > > the mysteries of mind,and to control it!!!.Tantra Vidya is

hence the

> > > > vidya discovered by sages to cross this Vaitharani.

> > > >

> > > > Jyotisha is the study of antharika jyothis through the external

> > > > Jyothis.And internal Jyothis is the shakthi called

Kundalini.Thus your

> > > > views are same as his.

> > > >

> > > > He says many 'scholars' repeat shastras as parrots do ,but

none has

> > > > attained any mukthi, just because of that.

> > > > True spirituality-The Prayaana towards Mukthi - is not

rhetoric nor

> > > > Tarka.It is a Karma Padhathi.Culmination of Intellectual

> > > > seeking(anweshana).It is a shastra.This shastra is Tantra.

> > > > Through the realization of the shakthi called Kundalini,one

escapes

> > > > Maya,seperating Vasana bandhas and Pashu becomes Pashupathi.This

> > > > pashupathi man is Mrityunjayan.One to one correspondence betwen

> > > > pindanda and Brahmanda is then made and as mentioned before

moolam and

> > > > its significance.

> > > >

> > > > Mahakala called Sadashiva,Shakthi called Sree Parvathi and all

other

> > > > Lords are just parts of Kaala Kundalini.

> > > >

> > > > The wonder child and Shad Chakradhishtitha Yantra called Man

is the

> > > > result of Parinaya between Kaala-Jeeva shakthis.In this

Yantra, Kaala

> > > > transforms as Yogashakthi and Man becomes MahaKaala.

> > > >

> > > > The mathematical celestial modelling(Khagoleeya

Ganitavatkarana) of

> > > > this Mahakaala manushya is JyotisChakra.He says Deepavali or

Diwali is

> > > > a celebration about Man,Prapancha and his Antarika Jyotiss.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar ji is there any indicator for Chittam in

Jyotish.Can

> > > > 5th house be linked to this?It is just my doubt.5th is only called

> > > > Pratibha.

> > > >

> > > > Respect

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right. Kundalini is Shakti, without which there can

be no

> > > > > Chetana therefore, in living beings, dormant or arisen it is

> > essential

> > > > > for life, hence auspicious.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar ji has given the following explanation.Thus it

> > seems at

> > > > > > the chitta level it is always there though one may not be

feeling

> > > > > > it.Chandrashekhar ji kindly correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can check with shri Chandrahari for any references.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> > > > awakened or

> > > > > > > dormant.

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini, lying

> > at the

> > > > > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of

you and of

> > > > > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > <%40>,

"b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have great

> > respect

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

> > auspicious

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow

> > great mantra

> > > > > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly

explained, the

> > > > grahana

> > > > > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

> > strong. If

> > > > > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time,

grahana is

> > > > not a

> > > > > > > > > good time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on

Timing of

> > > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure

> > you'll

> > > > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > > > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > > > representing

> > > > > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva.

> > If you

> > > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the same

> > thing.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > <%40>,

"vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > > > footing.Have

> > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

> > mathematical

> > > > > > > > > points

> > > > > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the

followoing

> > > > > > > > section

> > > > > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> >

> > > > > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the

Nodes of

> > > > Moon -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became

> > the symbol

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

> > death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

> > pursuits.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of

RAhu and

> > > > Sikhi

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha

IthiMe

> > > > > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great

Lord. How

> > > > then

> > > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same

> > with the

> > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and

the rest

> > > > later"

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

> > > > times - of

> > > > > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire

(Agni). In

> > > > the eye

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon

> > and Sun in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and

> > SivaSakti union

> > > > > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a lunar

> > eclipse

> > > > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

> > sushumna

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three gunas

> > and at

> > > > > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see what

> > method

> > > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

> > > > responsibilities(through

> > > > > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred

towards

> > > > them.Let

> > > > > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand the

> > > > tests of

> > > > > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn

falsehood.Students will

> > > > > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing

else-HE

> > > > > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > > > terminology -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani,

we can

> > > > find -

> > > > > > > > On

> > > > > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the

> > two veins,

> > > > > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed

Susumna

> > > > > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon,

sun and

> > > > 'agni' -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

> > > > string of

> > > > > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining

> > Vajra-Nadi from

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is

> > equated with

> > > > > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits

have been

> > > > made

> > > > > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> > respectively

> > > > > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> > equivalent

> > > > > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon

and its

> > > > > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried about

> > > > > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

> > Knowledge.The

> > > > > > > > wise

> > > > > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

 

The bulb is the chakra(s) that electricity (kundalini) activates.

The "switch" is the reversal of direction, which will awaken the

sleeping kundalini. Unless you awaken the kundalini and let it run,

it will not energise the chakras. So, even though the chakras, the

merudanda, the kundalini are all present within every one, not every

one will experience Realization, unless they try to arouse

kundalini. I am indeed surprised that i need to explain this basic

concept in such detail, to a learned person like you, unless you are

trying to test me:--))

 

I am sure you know all about potential and kinetic energies and the

differences.

 

 

> Sadhakas do not try to awaken the Kundalini only because it is

> auspicious, which it is, it is to know the svarupa of Para Brahman

within.

 

Lakshmi: Right Sir, is any knowledge/power termed "auspicious",

unless it leads us to Ralization of Para Brahma within?Sahasraara is

Shiva and "Shiva" means "auspicious"!

 

When I used the term "beneficial" or "auspicious", I used it solely

in spiritual parlance, and it only means "Realization"! Anyway, now

you seem to agree with me that only an awakened Kundalini can give

realization!!

 

>

> I am also not capable of understanding what you are driving at

when you say:

>

> _ "if you feel that there's no difference between asat and Sat,

between

> tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita.." _, on the one hand

and then

> say that Kula is Chit and Akula is Sat-Chit-Anand. Do you mean

that the

> Kundalini shakti can give out its beneficial effulgence without

the

> existence of Shiva in Sahasrara?

>

 

Lakshmi: Sir, have i implied any such thing? If the terms... Sat,

Jyoti, Amrita, Sat-chit-ananda do not mean Shiva, what else do they

mean?

 

I really do not know whther the obtuseness/ambiguity is in my

message or in your understanding.

 

In my bulb example also I was saying that kundalini activation is

important for those who want the Light and the extra vision. For

those who do not want them, it does not matter whether kundalini is

awake or sleeping. In spiritual/philosophical parlance, an awakened

kundalini can make one realize that he/she is indeed Shiva and not

shava!!

 

I have not said any thing about "kula" or "akula" that's not given

in texts. If you read the extract of Shri Chandra Hari's message,

he's also saying the same thing.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

> What is Kula and what is Akula is well defined and redefining it

may be

> a new trend that I am not familiar with. I do not think the terms

used

> in Tantra shastra are open to redefinition.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

> >

> > Chandrasekhar ji: Only that it is

> > > auspicious, whether risen or not.

> > >

> >

> > Lakshmi: Then if sleeping kundalini is equal to awakened

kundalini,

> > can you tell me why sadhakas go to great lengths to awaken it?

You

> > and I may not know it, but they know the tremendous difference it

> > can make:--))

> >

> > > However let me put it this way, what you are referring to as

the

> > bulb,

> > > happens to be the generator. That is why Kundalini is referred

to

> > be

> > > like Vidullekha.

> >

> > Lakshmi: Sir, i don't think you've understood my point at all and

> > request you to read the example again. I referred to kundalini as

> > the power/electricity and not as the bulb!!

> >

> > > Kula and Akula tantra do not distinguish between where the

energy

> > lies,

> > > to the best of my knowledge. And there is something called

Yamala

> > which

> > > recognizes this fact. Actually as Shakti is Kula so is Shiva

> > called

> > > Akula per Kulachudamani Tantra.

> >

> > Lakshmi: "Kula" is base of mooladhara, where Kundalini lies, as

tri-

> > gunamayi, as moolaprakriti fraught with differentiations. "Akula"

> > is sahasraara, where the gunas and differentiations cease. Kula

> > is "chit" while akula is "sat-chit-ananda"!! Isn't there a

> > difference?

> >

> > However, if you feel that there's no differece between asat and

Sat,

> > between tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita...then there's

no

> > necessity/relevance for this discussion, because the entire

concept

> > of Kundalini and its ascension hinges on this.

> >

> > I better stop here.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

> > > >

> > > > Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of

potential

> > > > only. Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I

think:

> > > >

> > > > There's a bulb in the room and it's connected to the power

> > source,

> > > > but the switch is "off". The power to light the bulb, all the

> > > > infrastructure is present, but does the bulb shine?

> > > >

> > > > Unless the switch is reversed to "on" position, power will

not

> > flow

> > > > through the wires and make the bulb glow, aiding our vision.

I

> > was

> > > > discussing about that crucial "switch" which will allow

passage

> > of

> > > > power, so that the Light manifests.

> > > >

> > > > There's a huge difference between kundalini as "Kula" and

> > > > as "Akula". But, as I do not intend entering into a full

scale

> > > > discussion on tantra, it's sufficient to say that the upward

> > journey

> > > > of Kundalini is an epic journey of all of us...from untruth

to

> > > > Truth, from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality...

> > > >

> > > > asatoma sadgamaya

> > > > tamasoma jyotirgamaya

> > > > mrityorma amritamgamaya

> > > >

> > > > Om Shanti! Shanti! ShantiH

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of Kundalini,

> > > > awakened or

> > > > > dormant.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini,

lying at

> > the

> > > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of you

and

> > of

> > > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%

40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have

great

> > > > respect

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

> > auspicious

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow

great

> > > > mantra

> > > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly explained,

the

> > > > grahana

> > > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

> > strong.

> > > > If

> > > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time,

grahana

> > is

> > > > not a

> > > > > > > good time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on Timing

of

> > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am sure

> > you'll

> > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > > > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > > > representing

> > > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the Shiva.

If

> > you

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the

same

> > thing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%

40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > > > footing.Have

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

> > mathematical

> > > > > > > points

> > > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the

> > followoing

> > > > > > section

> > > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back into

> >

> > > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the

Nodes

> > of

> > > > Moon -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu became

the

> > > > symbol

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

> > death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

> > pursuits.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of

RAhu and

> > > > Sikhi

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who are

> > > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

> > Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha

IthiMe

> > > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great

Lord.

> > How

> > > > then

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times? Same

> > with the

> > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and the

rest

> > > > later"

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most auspicious

> > times -

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire (Agni).

In

> > the

> > > > eye

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while Moon

and

> > Sun

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and

SivaSakti

> > > > union

> > > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a

lunar

> > > > eclipse

> > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year (agni),the

> > > > sushumna

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three

gunas

> > and at

> > > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see

what

> > method

> > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

responsibilities

> > > > (through

> > > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred

towards

> > > > them.Let

> > > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand

the

> > tests

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn falsehood.Students

will

> > > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing

else-

> > HE

> > > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > > > terminology -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani, we

can

> > > > find -

> > > > > > On

> > > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are the

two

> > > > veins,

> > > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed

Susumna

> > > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

> > > > and 'agni' -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head like a

> > string

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining Vajra-

Nadi

> > > > from

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is

equated

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits have

> > been

> > > > made

> > > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> > > > respectively

> > > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> > > > equivalent

> > > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon

and

> > its

> > > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried

about

> > > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

> > Knowledge.The

> > > > > > wise

> > > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Om Gurave namah

 

Namaste Chandrasekhar ji

 

If you want to verify the autheticity of my statements, please refer

to yogini hridayam, kaama kalaa vilaasam, rudrayamalam, soubhagya

bhaskaram etc, where detailed expositions are found on the

differences between the attributes of Purusha (akula)& Prakriti

(kula), the prakasha and vimarsha aspects of prakriti and how

chitshakti is a upama shakti.

 

Please do not misunderstand that I think less of kula/vimarsha

aspects of Mother...they are necessary for srishtikrama. As I must

have said many times, Realization is the samhaara krama, so

Akula/Prakasha aspects of Mother (as Shivaa) become much more

important in any spiritual endeavour.

 

Realization is going back to the Roots...of the inverted ashwatha

tree!

 

I thought of sending this mail, because you seemed to think that i

was writing what's not given in the texts. If you want, i can also

share the relevant shlokas/portions in a private mail.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

<b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

>

> The bulb is the chakra(s) that electricity (kundalini) activates.

> The "switch" is the reversal of direction, which will awaken the

> sleeping kundalini. Unless you awaken the kundalini and let it

run,

> it will not energise the chakras. So, even though the chakras, the

> merudanda, the kundalini are all present within every one, not

every

> one will experience Realization, unless they try to arouse

> kundalini. I am indeed surprised that i need to explain this

basic

> concept in such detail, to a learned person like you, unless you

are

> trying to test me:--))

>

> I am sure you know all about potential and kinetic energies and

the

> differences.

>

>

> > Sadhakas do not try to awaken the Kundalini only because it is

> > auspicious, which it is, it is to know the svarupa of Para

Brahman

> within.

>

> Lakshmi: Right Sir, is any knowledge/power termed "auspicious",

> unless it leads us to Ralization of Para Brahma within?Sahasraara

is

> Shiva and "Shiva" means "auspicious"!

>

> When I used the term "beneficial" or "auspicious", I used it

solely

> in spiritual parlance, and it only means "Realization"! Anyway,

now

> you seem to agree with me that only an awakened Kundalini can give

> realization!!

>

> >

> > I am also not capable of understanding what you are driving at

> when you say:

> >

> > _ "if you feel that there's no difference between asat and Sat,

> between

> > tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita.." _, on the one hand

> and then

> > say that Kula is Chit and Akula is Sat-Chit-Anand. Do you mean

> that the

> > Kundalini shakti can give out its beneficial effulgence without

> the

> > existence of Shiva in Sahasrara?

> >

>

> Lakshmi: Sir, have i implied any such thing? If the terms... Sat,

> Jyoti, Amrita, Sat-chit-ananda do not mean Shiva, what else do

they

> mean?

>

> I really do not know whther the obtuseness/ambiguity is in my

> message or in your understanding.

>

> In my bulb example also I was saying that kundalini activation is

> important for those who want the Light and the extra vision. For

> those who do not want them, it does not matter whether kundalini

is

> awake or sleeping. In spiritual/philosophical parlance, an

awakened

> kundalini can make one realize that he/she is indeed Shiva and not

> shava!!

>

> I have not said any thing about "kula" or "akula" that's not given

> in texts. If you read the extract of Shri Chandra Hari's message,

> he's also saying the same thing.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

> > What is Kula and what is Akula is well defined and redefining it

> may be

> > a new trend that I am not familiar with. I do not think the

terms

> used

> > in Tantra shastra are open to redefinition.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

> > >

> > > Chandrasekhar ji: Only that it is

> > > > auspicious, whether risen or not.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Lakshmi: Then if sleeping kundalini is equal to awakened

> kundalini,

> > > can you tell me why sadhakas go to great lengths to awaken it?

> You

> > > and I may not know it, but they know the tremendous difference

it

> > > can make:--))

> > >

> > > > However let me put it this way, what you are referring to as

> the

> > > bulb,

> > > > happens to be the generator. That is why Kundalini is

referred

> to

> > > be

> > > > like Vidullekha.

> > >

> > > Lakshmi: Sir, i don't think you've understood my point at all

and

> > > request you to read the example again. I referred to kundalini

as

> > > the power/electricity and not as the bulb!!

> > >

> > > > Kula and Akula tantra do not distinguish between where the

> energy

> > > lies,

> > > > to the best of my knowledge. And there is something called

> Yamala

> > > which

> > > > recognizes this fact. Actually as Shakti is Kula so is Shiva

> > > called

> > > > Akula per Kulachudamani Tantra.

> > >

> > > Lakshmi: "Kula" is base of mooladhara, where Kundalini lies,

as

> tri-

> > > gunamayi, as moolaprakriti fraught with

differentiations. "Akula"

> > > is sahasraara, where the gunas and differentiations cease. Kula

> > > is "chit" while akula is "sat-chit-ananda"!! Isn't there a

> > > difference?

> > >

> > > However, if you feel that there's no differece between asat

and

> Sat,

> > > between tamas and Jyoti, between mrita and Amrita...then

there's

> no

> > > necessity/relevance for this discussion, because the entire

> concept

> > > of Kundalini and its ascension hinges on this.

> > >

> > > I better stop here.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Chandrasekhar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Chit shakti is certainly correct, but in the form of

> potential

> > > > > only. Let me take a mundane example to illustrate what I

> think:

> > > > >

> > > > > There's a bulb in the room and it's connected to the power

> > > source,

> > > > > but the switch is "off". The power to light the bulb, all

the

> > > > > infrastructure is present, but does the bulb shine?

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless the switch is reversed to "on" position, power will

> not

> > > flow

> > > > > through the wires and make the bulb glow, aiding our

vision.

> I

> > > was

> > > > > discussing about that crucial "switch" which will allow

> passage

> > > of

> > > > > power, so that the Light manifests.

> > > > >

> > > > > There's a huge difference between kundalini as "Kula" and

> > > > > as "Akula". But, as I do not intend entering into a full

> scale

> > > > > discussion on tantra, it's sufficient to say that the

upward

> > > journey

> > > > > of Kundalini is an epic journey of all of us...from

untruth

> to

> > > > > Truth, from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality...

> > > > >

> > > > > asatoma sadgamaya

> > > > > tamasoma jyotirgamaya

> > > > > mrityorma amritamgamaya

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Shanti! Shanti! ShantiH

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Divine Lakshmi,

> > > > > > Chiti shakti or Chitshakti is the other name of

Kundalini,

> > > > > awakened or

> > > > > > dormant.

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does any tantra text describe unawakened kundalini,

> lying at

> > > the

> > > > > > > base of Mooladhara chakra, as beneficial?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your affection. I always think highly of

you

> and

> > > of

> > > > > > > Chandrasekhar ji.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > <%

> 40>, "b_lakshmi_ramesh"

> > > > > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have great respect for Chandra Hari. I also have

> great

> > > > > respect

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > whatever is written by Maharishis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As Chadrasekharji has stated, grahana times are very

> > > auspicious

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > doing japa, because that time is supposed to bestow

> great

> > > > > mantra

> > > > > > > > siddhi. But as Sanjay Rath had brilliantly

explained,

> the

> > > > > grahana

> > > > > > > > time (yoga) is good when Jupiter(prayer/pooja etc) is

> > > strong.

> > > > > If

> > > > > > > > people are not engaged in japa/tapa at that time,

> grahana

> > > is

> > > > > not a

> > > > > > > > good time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I also request you to read my research paper on

Timing

> of

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > events and my paper on Kalapurusha transits. I am

sure

> > > you'll

> > > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > > reading them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A corrected/upward Rahu(who is represented in

> > > > > tantra/kundalini) is

> > > > > > > > always good, because at that time he's like the Sun,

> > > > > representing

> > > > > > > > the head and is also direct like that Sun...the

Shiva.

> If

> > > you

> > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > to my previous email, you'll notice that I said the

> same

> > > thing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > <%

> 40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu/Demon/Chandala etc has a strong Philosophical

> > > > > footing.Have

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > ever thought how the sages were able to discover

> > > mathematical

> > > > > > > > points

> > > > > > > > > called nodes?If you didn't know kindly read the

> > > followoing

> > > > > > > section

> > > > > > > > > of shri Chandrahari's article(uploaded long back

into

> > >

> > > > > > > > > groups).Else ignore.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Influence of eclipses guided the discovery of the

> Nodes

> > > of

> > > > > Moon -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the serpent of time - the north node or Rahu

became

> the

> > > > > symbol

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > birth and Sikhi became the symbol of

> > > death/liberation/mukti

> > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > the luni-solar phenomena symbolized man's spiritual

> > > pursuits.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > MATRAKABHEDA Tantra explains the significance of

> RAhu and

> > > > > Sikhi

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the following dialogue between Siva and Sakti who

are

> > > > > > > > > representations of Sun and Moon.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ''Rahu Chandalo Vikhyatha Sarvatra

> > > Parameshwara.Punyakaala

> > > > > > > Katham

> > > > > > > > > Deva TasyaSparsha Divakara.Nishakarey Tadha Nadha

> IthiMe

> > > > > > > Samshayo

> > > > > > > > > Hridi''

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > "Everywhere Rahu is famous as Chandala, O' Great

> Lord.

> > > How

> > > > > then

> > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > conjunction with Sun leads to auspicious times?

Same

> > > with the

> > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > as well; please elaborate this aspect first and

the

> rest

> > > > > later"

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > "Hear, O' beautiful, eclipses are the most

auspicious

> > > times -

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > three kinds, involving Moon,Sun and the Fire

(Agni).

> In

> > > the

> > > > > eye

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the forehead of the Sakta is placed Agni while

Moon

> and

> > > Sun

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > left and right eyes"

> > > > > > > > > "When Sambhu joins Devi the eclipses occur and

> SivaSakti

> > > > > union

> > > > > > > > takes

> > > > > > > > > place. The left nadi is kindled at the time of a

> lunar

> > > > > eclipse

> > > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > the right one in solar and at the new year

(agni),the

> > > > > sushumna

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > kindled.Rahu is Siva and the master of the three

> gunas

> > > and at

> > > > > > > > > eclipses the Siva joins Sakti"

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rest you can conclude.Through HIS grace i can see

> what

> > > method

> > > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > are employing to degrade and disrupt my

> responsibilities

> > > > > (through

> > > > > > > > > planetary combination tactics).I have no hatred

> towards

> > > > > them.Let

> > > > > > > > HIM

> > > > > > > > > show them light.But no such gimmicks can withstand

> the

> > > tests

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > time.MahaKala will sweep and burn

falsehood.Students

> will

> > > > > > > > Realize.I

> > > > > > > > > am told just to concentrate on my goal and nothing

> else-

> > > HE

> > > > > > > > > will guard me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also if it is useful read the following -

> > > > > > > > > Human body is described in Tantra with astronomical

> > > > > terminology -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > for example, in Purnananda's SritattwaChintamani,

we

> can

> > > > > find -

> > > > > > > On

> > > > > > > > > the periphery of Meru at the left and right are

the

> two

> > > > > veins,

> > > > > > > > Sashi

> > > > > > > > > and Mihira (moon & sun). In the middle is placed

> Susumna

> > > > > > > possessed

> > > > > > > > > of the three qualities and of the form of moon, sun

> > > > > and 'agni' -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > extending from the middle of Kanda to the Head

like a

> > > string

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > pomegranate flowers - holds inside the shining

Vajra-

> Nadi

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > genitals to the head.Here the vertebral column is

> equated

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Meru,

> > > > > > > > > the axis of earth and the lunar and solar orbits

have

> > > been

> > > > > made

> > > > > > > > > equivalent to the two Nadis Ida and Pingala which

> > > > > respectively

> > > > > > > > carry

> > > > > > > > > the prana and apana.Above the Meru is Dhruva and as

> > > > > equivalent

> > > > > > > > > Tantra defines Dvadasanta above the sphere of Moon

> and

> > > its

> > > > > > > > orifice -

> > > > > > > > > the sahasrara or brain.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lakshmi ji you are very learned.I am not worried

> about

> > > > > > > acceptance

> > > > > > > > > from majority.This is not my knowledge,but OUR

> > > Knowledge.The

> > > > > > > wise

> > > > > > > > > and wise ALONE can realize the wisdom of Mahamunis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Kindly share your views.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ----------------------

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> > > > > -------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 -

Release

> > > Date:

> > > > > 8/31/2006

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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