Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Chandrashekarji, Yes in Sanjays book thats the way it is. i am not getting right now other translation of Chapter 4 to verify Sanjays Translation (1930-40s) but points below 1) The article written by Visti states Written by Visti, Guide & Guru, Sanjay Rath So am presuming that Sanjay has read it and edited it, am sure in the name of Parampara he won't let anyone write anything. Visti's direct students n admirers are on this list too if they want or have learnt from him then then they can clarify 2) the Shloka in the article says in brackets '' Or trines from either lagna or AK'', which satisfies the condition in Hitlers chart and Visti has taken hitlers chart as an example. Maybe Visti has made a mistake, I have mailed him for clarification. In next post I shall make use of LOGIC. Regards, Sunil John , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > Sanjay translates it as: > > " If these (Moo and Rahu) conjoin/aspect the 5th or the 9th houses from > the ascendant/atmakaraka the native assumes the nature of destroyer of > all creation" > > I do not see that happening in Hitler's chart. They aspect each other > from 3rd and 9th but both neither conjoin nor aspect the 9th or 5th > bhava together. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > I understand. We got diverted from hitlers chart. Now If I understand > > what u wrote then u are agreeing to Sanjays translation of the sutra of > > Jaimini (ignoring Shakti yoga word), wouldn't the sutra apply here in > > Hitlers case??? > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > I can only talk about the interpretation of the sutra by Sanjay and > > not > > > anything else. This is so as we are talking about Jaimini and the yoga > > > is related to that sutra as per Sanjay's comments later on in the > > book. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE > > BOOK, > > > > so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti which > > you > > > > must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay Rath > > and > > > > there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read then > > there > > > > are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of Visti so > > > > they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their > > conscience > > > > or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site > > > > > > > > www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com> > > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I know > > > > there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the > > correct > > > > Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible I > > test > > > > his principles as time permits and take what works - that is honest > > > > astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him and > > tell > > > > him directly or seek clarification. > > > > > > > > On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala (Jhora > > > > doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating Istha > > Phala > > > > on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be > > nice. I > > > > might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at cyber > > cafe > > > > or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I shall > > > > check. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. Sanjay is > > > > Guru > > > > > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name > > Shakti > > > > > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this fact in > > his > > > > book. > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their > > Parampara > > > > > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for new > > > > comers i > > > > > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's > > article on > > > > > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these (Moon > > and > > > > > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, AK, > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There is > > no > > > > > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is there > > any > > > > > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and 9th > > ( > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 to > > 56 > > > > are > > > > > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to sorrow, > > in > > > > > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to > > others. > > > > > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of or > > to > > > > > > native's > > > > > > > Mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as mother > > but > > > > has > > > > > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra > > 4.1.52. > > > > The > > > > > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, to > > me, > > > > as > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother or > > to > > > > > > mother > > > > > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as propounded > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must have > > his > > > > own > > > > > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in > > > > successive > > > > > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like to > > ask > > > > him > > > > > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we > > meet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So > > tying > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings may > > not > > > > be > > > > > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of madness, > > if > > > > I > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu > > > > combination > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and > > aspecting > > > > the > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on Shakti > > > > Yoga, > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his site > > but > > > > this > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the Moon > > in > > > > > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it caused > > the > > > > end > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini Upadesha > > Sutra > > > > > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the 5th > > house > > > > (or > > > > > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will assume > > the > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a > > basic > > > > mail > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Dear Sunil, I can not comment on this as I have not read Visti's article. Neither can I know whether Sanjay read and approved the article. I can only comment on what I read in Upadesha Sutra of Sanjay. Chandrashekhar. suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > Yes in Sanjays book thats the way it is. i am not getting right now > other translation of Chapter 4 to verify Sanjays Translation (1930-40s) > but points below > > 1) The article written by Visti states > > Written by Visti, Guide & Guru, Sanjay Rath > > So am presuming that Sanjay has read it and edited it, am sure in the > name of Parampara he won't let anyone write anything. Visti's direct > students n admirers are on this list too if they want or have learnt > from him then then they can clarify > > 2) the Shloka in the article says in brackets '' Or trines from either > lagna or AK'', which satisfies the condition in Hitlers chart and Visti > has taken hitlers chart as an example. > > Maybe Visti has made a mistake, I have mailed him for clarification. > > In next post I shall make use of LOGIC. > > Regards, > > Sunil John > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > Sanjay translates it as: > > > > " If these (Moo and Rahu) conjoin/aspect the 5th or the 9th houses > from > > the ascendant/atmakaraka the native assumes the nature of destroyer of > > all creation" > > > > I do not see that happening in Hitler's chart. They aspect each other > > from 3rd and 9th but both neither conjoin nor aspect the 9th or 5th > > bhava together. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > I understand. We got diverted from hitlers chart. Now If I > understand > > > what u wrote then u are agreeing to Sanjays translation of the sutra > of > > > Jaimini (ignoring Shakti yoga word), wouldn't the sutra apply here > in > > > Hitlers case??? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > I can only talk about the interpretation of the sutra by Sanjay > and > > > not > > > > anything else. This is so as we are talking about Jaimini and the > yoga > > > > is related to that sutra as per Sanjay's comments later on in the > > > book. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE > > > BOOK, > > > > > so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti > which > > > you > > > > > must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay > Rath > > > and > > > > > there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read > then > > > there > > > > > are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of > Visti so > > > > > they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their > > > conscience > > > > > or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site > > > > > > > > > > www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com > <http://www.srigaruda.com> > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>> > > > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com> > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I > know > > > > > there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the > > > correct > > > > > Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible > I > > > test > > > > > his principles as time permits and take what works - that is > honest > > > > > astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him > and > > > tell > > > > > him directly or seek clarification. > > > > > > > > > > On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala > (Jhora > > > > > doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating > Istha > > > Phala > > > > > on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be > > > nice. I > > > > > might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at > cyber > > > cafe > > > > > or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I > shall > > > > > check. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. > Sanjay is > > > > > Guru > > > > > > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name > > > Shakti > > > > > > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this > fact in > > > his > > > > > book. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their > > > Parampara > > > > > > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for > new > > > > > comers i > > > > > > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's > > > article on > > > > > > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these > (Moon > > > and > > > > > > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, > AK, > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There > is > > > no > > > > > > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is > there > > > any > > > > > > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and > 9th > > > ( > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 > to > > > 56 > > > > > are > > > > > > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to > sorrow, > > > in > > > > > > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to > > > others. > > > > > > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of > or > > > to > > > > > > > native's > > > > > > > > Mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as > mother > > > but > > > > > has > > > > > > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra > > > 4.1.52. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, > to > > > me, > > > > > as > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother > or > > > to > > > > > > > mother > > > > > > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as > propounded > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must > have > > > his > > > > > own > > > > > > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in > > > > > successive > > > > > > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like > to > > > ask > > > > > him > > > > > > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we > > > meet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So > > > tying > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings > may > > > not > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of > madness, > > > if > > > > > I > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu > > > > > combination > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and > > > aspecting > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on > Shakti > > > > > Yoga, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his > site > > > but > > > > > this > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the > Moon > > > in > > > > > > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it > caused > > > the > > > > > end > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini > Upadesha > > > Sutra > > > > > > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the > 5th > > > house > > > > > (or > > > > > > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will > assume > > > the > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a > > > basic > > > > > mail > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Chandrashekarji, I did post the link several days back to you. Thought u had read it as you are open for new information & since we were discussing for days. Again, thought u had read Visti's article to debate about it vs Sanjays teachings. But no worries, I have given my own explanation re hitlers chart from logic point of view Regards, Sunil John , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > I can not comment on this as I have not read Visti's article. Neither > can I know whether Sanjay read and approved the article. I can only > comment on what I read in Upadesha Sutra of Sanjay. > Chandrashekhar. > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > Yes in Sanjays book thats the way it is. i am not getting right now > > other translation of Chapter 4 to verify Sanjays Translation (1930-40s) > > but points below > > > > 1) The article written by Visti states > > > > Written by Visti, Guide & Guru, Sanjay Rath > > > > So am presuming that Sanjay has read it and edited it, am sure in the > > name of Parampara he won't let anyone write anything. Visti's direct > > students n admirers are on this list too if they want or have learnt > > from him then then they can clarify > > > > 2) the Shloka in the article says in brackets '' Or trines from either > > lagna or AK'', which satisfies the condition in Hitlers chart and Visti > > has taken hitlers chart as an example. > > > > Maybe Visti has made a mistake, I have mailed him for clarification. > > > > In next post I shall make use of LOGIC. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > Sanjay translates it as: > > > > > > " If these (Moo and Rahu) conjoin/aspect the 5th or the 9th houses > > from > > > the ascendant/atmakaraka the native assumes the nature of destroyer of > > > all creation" > > > > > > I do not see that happening in Hitler's chart. They aspect each other > > > from 3rd and 9th but both neither conjoin nor aspect the 9th or 5th > > > bhava together. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > I understand. We got diverted from hitlers chart. Now If I > > understand > > > > what u wrote then u are agreeing to Sanjays translation of the sutra > > of > > > > Jaimini (ignoring Shakti yoga word), wouldn't the sutra apply here > > in > > > > Hitlers case??? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > I can only talk about the interpretation of the sutra by Sanjay > > and > > > > not > > > > > anything else. This is so as we are talking about Jaimini and the > > yoga > > > > > is related to that sutra as per Sanjay's comments later on in the > > > > book. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE > > > > BOOK, > > > > > > so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti > > which > > > > you > > > > > > must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay > > Rath > > > > and > > > > > > there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read > > then > > > > there > > > > > > are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of > > Visti so > > > > > > they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their > > > > conscience > > > > > > or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site > > > > > > > > > > > > www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com > > <http://www.srigaruda.com> > > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>> > > > > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com> > > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I > > know > > > > > > there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the > > > > correct > > > > > > Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible > > I > > > > test > > > > > > his principles as time permits and take what works - that is > > honest > > > > > > astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him > > and > > > > tell > > > > > > him directly or seek clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala > > (Jhora > > > > > > doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating > > Istha > > > > Phala > > > > > > on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be > > > > nice. I > > > > > > might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at > > cyber > > > > cafe > > > > > > or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I > > shall > > > > > > check. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. > > Sanjay is > > > > > > Guru > > > > > > > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name > > > > Shakti > > > > > > > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this > > fact in > > > > his > > > > > > book. > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their > > > > Parampara > > > > > > > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for > > new > > > > > > comers i > > > > > > > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's > > > > article on > > > > > > > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these > > (Moon > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, > > AK, > > > > the > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There > > is > > > > no > > > > > > > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is > > there > > > > any > > > > > > > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and > > 9th > > > > ( > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 > > to > > > > 56 > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to > > sorrow, > > > > in > > > > > > > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to > > > > others. > > > > > > > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of > > or > > > > to > > > > > > > > native's > > > > > > > > > Mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as > > mother > > > > but > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra > > > > 4.1.52. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, > > to > > > > me, > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother > > or > > > > to > > > > > > > > mother > > > > > > > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as > > propounded > > > > by > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must > > have > > > > his > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in > > > > > > successive > > > > > > > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like > > to > > > > ask > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we > > > > meet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So > > > > tying > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings > > may > > > > not > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of > > madness, > > > > if > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and > > > > aspecting > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on > > Shakti > > > > > > Yoga, > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his > > site > > > > but > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the > > Moon > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it > > caused > > > > the > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini > > Upadesha > > > > Sutra > > > > > > > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the > > 5th > > > > house > > > > > > (or > > > > > > > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will > > assume > > > > the > > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a > > > > basic > > > > > > mail > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/427 - > > Release > > > > Date: > > > > > > > > 8/24/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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