Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Again emailer is quoted ''SirhanSirhan was an anti-Semitic, anti-American, pro-Palistinian who killed Robert Kennedy because he was violently opposed to Robert Kennedy's support of Israel. From the time he was a child, Sirhan had been indoctrinated inideologies that are at the center of his murderous act: http://www.crimemagazine.com/05/sirhansirhan,0906-5.htm AstroDatabank Full Dossier As of: Sep 01 2006 Filter: (Unnamed) Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN 03/19/1944 Place: Jerusalem, Israel Lat: 31 N 46 Gender: M Time: 02:00 EET (-2:00) Lng: 35 E 14 Data Source: From memory Rodden Rating: A Source Notes: Jim Eshelman quotes Charles Zemont from a family member Biography: Israeli assassin violently opposed to Robert Kennedy's support of Israel; he shot him to death on 6/05/1968 in Los Angeles, CA. Convicted of murder and five counts of assault in the wounding of five others, he was sentenced to death. In 1972, his death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment. Born in Jerusalem, he was raised a Christian who entered the U.S. in 1957 as a permanent resident. In June 1997 his parole was denied for the tenth time. Categories: Criminal Perpetrator: Homicide single Robert F. Kennedy Home: Expatriate Moved to U.S. Criminal Perpetrator: Assault/ Battery Five counts Book Collection: Crime Collection Famous: Criminal cases Assassin of RFK Events: Family: Change residence 1957 0 Day Entered U.S. as permanent resident Crime: Homicide Perpetration 6/5/1968 0 Day Shot Robert F. Kennedy to death Crime: Other Crime 1972 0 Day Sentence commuted Relationships: Kennedy, Bobby Homicide victim Chart Notes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Dear Sunil, While the discussions are hot , to show my point I am posting the Astrological Analysis of the personality which worked at the back of his worldly projection. The man you will see is entirely shown by Jupiter. His Sun is in Jupiter sign, asc is Jupiter sign moon is in Jupiter sign. The three sac's dealings with a person personality all are shown by Jupiter , who is exalted ret and is in 8th in exchange with moon from Ascendant. The three Satwa guna Planets are related through signs and exchange. For every birth occurred during this day the degrees of houses and moon moved fast with other planets or this satwik effect remaining almost same. A human birth is caused due to Rajoguna, Tamaqua cause the birth in animal and plants shape. The Angel/demigods are due to Satwa Guna. No Guna is independent of another , but is only in existence due to others two. And the Guna comes into existence due to presence of theSoul/Jivatama in the body of living beings and due to Paramatma in the World. The afflicted form of these Gunas cause Ego Problem. Or otherwise every planet represent some ego , only the type differs.Sun has ego of the self respect and kingship, Saturn has the ego of humility and of a worker, Mercury has the ego of intelligence and Jupiter has the ego of wisdom. Without Ego world can not come into existence. It is caused by the Ego of Paramatma. Without ego you will stop writing and will come at rest. The ego which cause us to take births again and again is harmful , all the planets give ego which has body, only the bodiless ego is harmful. Rahu is the planet which cause such ego. Now in the given chart the time given gives Saturn as the sub lord of ascendant, I don't believe this , the person must have Sun or Jupiter or Mercury as his sub lord. Why because for doing a direful act the person shall be highly impressed that he is total correct and what he is doing is the only alternative with him. The Jupiter Ret is moving toward Rahu , and in other two signs of water element there is Sun and Mercury, here Mercury is the Rajsik planet in a Satwaguna sign . Satguna means knowledge , this knowledge may be related to any field. In jamini we know the dual signs interfere with each other means knowledge of one aspect interfere with another field , and the highest is the winner means in which field one has focused maximum that overtake on his thoughts or style of working. Here you find Mars and Moon interfering with Sun and Merc.and moon is leading. Jupiter in cancer supported by moon exchange from his asc , give great knowledge but the Jupiter is directed toward Rahu and is not a leader here. A tamoguni planet in the Rajo guni sign having support of other Satwa guni planets / there is no compromise for this man , if he is under the impact of Jupiter or Moon or Sun Merc etc as sub lord, only Rahu as sublord could have saved him , because then the interpertation will reverse, then it would have been an improvement in birth from robber to a good man. If I was able to add some thing in the present discussion? With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni - suniljohn_2002 Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:52 PM Sg Lagna - Chart 12 - Assassin of Robert Kennedy ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Again emailer is quoted ''SirhanSirhan was an anti-Semitic, anti-American, pro-Palistinian who killed Robert Kennedy because he was violently opposed to Robert Kennedy's support of Israel. From the time he was a child, Sirhan had been indoctrinated inideologies that are at the center of his murderous act: http://www.crimemagazine.com/05/sirhansirhan,0906-5.htm AstroDatabank Full Dossier As of: Sep 01 2006 Filter: (Unnamed) Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN 03/19/1944 Place: Jerusalem, Israel Lat: 31 N 46 Gender: M Time: 02:00 EET (-2:00) Lng: 35 E 14 Data Source: From memory Rodden Rating: A Source Notes: Jim Eshelman quotes Charles Zemont from a family member Biography: Israeli assassin violently opposed to Robert Kennedy's support of Israel; he shot him to death on 6/05/1968 in Los Angeles, CA. Convicted of murder and five counts of assault in the wounding of five others, he was sentenced to death. In 1972, his death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment. Born in Jerusalem, he was raised a Christian who entered the U.S. in 1957 as a permanent resident. In June 1997 his parole was denied for the tenth time. Categories: Criminal Perpetrator: Homicide single Robert F. Kennedy Home: Expatriate Moved to U.S. Criminal Perpetrator: Assault/ Battery Five counts Book Collection: Crime Collection Famous: Criminal cases Assassin of RFK Events: Family: Change residence 1957 0 Day Entered U.S. as permanent resident Crime: Homicide Perpetration 6/5/1968 0 Day Shot Robert F. Kennedy to death Crime: Other Crime 1972 0 Day Sentence commuted Relationships: Kennedy, Bobby Homicide victim Chart Notes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Dear Inder ji It was really an educative mail pointing to various Egos of planets and Paramatma/Jeevatma. Thanks Pradeep , "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > While the discussions are hot , to show my point I am posting the Astrological Analysis of the personality which worked at the back of his worldly projection. > The man you will see is entirely shown by Jupiter. > His Sun is in Jupiter sign, asc is Jupiter sign moon is in Jupiter sign. > The three sac's dealings with a person personality all are shown by Jupiter , who is exalted ret and is in 8th in exchange with moon from Ascendant. > The three Satwa guna Planets are related through signs and exchange. > For every birth occurred during this day the degrees of houses and moon moved fast with other planets or this satwik effect remaining almost same. > A human birth is caused due to Rajoguna, Tamaqua cause the birth in animal and plants shape. The Angel/demigods are due to Satwa Guna. > No Guna is independent of another , but is only in existence due to others two. > And the Guna comes into existence due to presence of theSoul/Jivatama in the body of living beings and due to Paramatma in the World. > The afflicted form of these Gunas cause Ego Problem. Or otherwise every planet represent some ego , only the type differs.Sun has ego of the self respect and kingship, Saturn has the ego of humility and of a worker, Mercury has the ego of intelligence and Jupiter has the ego of wisdom. Without Ego world can not come into existence. It is caused by the Ego of Paramatma. Without ego you will stop writing and will come at rest. > The ego which cause us to take births again and again is harmful , all the planets give ego which has body, only the bodiless ego is harmful. Rahu is the planet which cause such ego. > Now in the given chart the time given gives Saturn as the sub lord of ascendant, I don't believe this , the person must have Sun or Jupiter or Mercury as his sub lord. > Why because for doing a direful act the person shall be highly impressed that he is total correct and what he is doing is the only alternative with him. > The Jupiter Ret is moving toward Rahu , and in other two signs of water element there is Sun and Mercury, here Mercury is the Rajsik planet in a Satwaguna sign . > Satguna means knowledge , this knowledge may be related to any field. > In jamini we know the dual signs interfere with each other means knowledge of one aspect interfere with another field , and the highest is the winner means in which field one has focused maximum that overtake on his thoughts or style of working. Here you find Mars and Moon interfering with Sun and Merc.and moon is leading. > Jupiter in cancer supported by moon exchange from his asc , give great knowledge but the Jupiter is directed toward Rahu and is not a leader here. > A tamoguni planet in the Rajo guni sign having support of other Satwa guni planets / there is no compromise for this man , if he is under the impact of Jupiter or Moon or Sun Merc etc as sub lord, only Rahu as sublord could have saved him , because then the interpertation will reverse, then it would have been an improvement in birth from robber to a good man. > If I was able to add some thing in the present discussion? > > With Best Wishes, > Inder Jit Sahni > > > - > suniljohn_2002 > > Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:52 PM > Sg Lagna - Chart 12 - Assassin of Robert Kennedy > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > Dear > > Again emailer is quoted > > ''SirhanSirhan was an anti-Semitic, anti-American, pro-Palistinian who > killed Robert Kennedy because he was violently opposed to Robert > Kennedy's support of Israel. From the time he was a child, Sirhan had > been indoctrinated inideologies that are at the center of his murderous > act: > > http://www.crimemagazine.com/05/sirhansirhan,0906-5.htm > > AstroDatabank > > Full Dossier > > As of: Sep 01 2006 Filter: (Unnamed) > > Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN > > Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN 03/19/1944 Place: Jerusalem, > Israel Lat: 31 N 46 > > Gender: M Time: 02:00 EET (-2:00) Lng: 35 E 14 > > Data Source: From memory Rodden Rating: A > > Source Notes: Jim Eshelman quotes Charles Zemont from a family > member > > Biography: Israeli assassin violently opposed to Robert Kennedy's > support of Israel; he shot him to death on 6/05/1968 in Los Angeles, CA. > > Convicted of murder and five counts of assault in > the wounding of five others, he was sentenced to death. In 1972, his > death sentence > > was commuted to life imprisonment. Born in > Jerusalem, he was raised a Christian who entered the U.S. in 1957 as a > permanent > > resident. > > In June 1997 his parole was denied for the tenth > time. > > Categories: Criminal Perpetrator: Homicide single Robert F. > Kennedy > > Home: Expatriate Moved to > U.S. > > Criminal Perpetrator: Assault/ Battery > Five counts > > Book Collection: Crime Collection > > Famous: Criminal cases > Assassin of RFK > > Events: Family: Change residence 1957 0 Day Entered U.S. as > permanent resident > > Crime: Homicide Perpetration > 6/5/1968 0 Day > Shot Robert F. Kennedy to death > > Crime: Other Crime 1972 > 0 Day Sentence commuted > > Relationships: Kennedy, Bobby Homicide victim > > Chart Notes: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Inderjit Ji How nice to see u back on the list. Haven't spoken to u in a long time, will call u up tom or dayafter as tom would be a consultation day for u. Will read this mail of yours fresh tom, am sure it would be some learning for us all. Regards, Sunil John , "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > While the discussions are hot , to show my point I am posting the Astrological Analysis of the personality which worked at the back of his worldly projection. > The man you will see is entirely shown by Jupiter. > His Sun is in Jupiter sign, asc is Jupiter sign moon is in Jupiter sign. > The three sac's dealings with a person personality all are shown by Jupiter , who is exalted ret and is in 8th in exchange with moon from Ascendant. > The three Satwa guna Planets are related through signs and exchange. > For every birth occurred during this day the degrees of houses and moon moved fast with other planets or this satwik effect remaining almost same. > A human birth is caused due to Rajoguna, Tamaqua cause the birth in animal and plants shape. The Angel/demigods are due to Satwa Guna. > No Guna is independent of another , but is only in existence due to others two. > And the Guna comes into existence due to presence of theSoul/Jivatama in the body of living beings and due to Paramatma in the World. > The afflicted form of these Gunas cause Ego Problem. Or otherwise every planet represent some ego , only the type differs.Sun has ego of the self respect and kingship, Saturn has the ego of humility and of a worker, Mercury has the ego of intelligence and Jupiter has the ego of wisdom. Without Ego world can not come into existence. It is caused by the Ego of Paramatma. Without ego you will stop writing and will come at rest. > The ego which cause us to take births again and again is harmful , all the planets give ego which has body, only the bodiless ego is harmful. Rahu is the planet which cause such ego. > Now in the given chart the time given gives Saturn as the sub lord of ascendant, I don't believe this , the person must have Sun or Jupiter or Mercury as his sub lord. > Why because for doing a direful act the person shall be highly impressed that he is total correct and what he is doing is the only alternative with him. > The Jupiter Ret is moving toward Rahu , and in other two signs of water element there is Sun and Mercury, here Mercury is the Rajsik planet in a Satwaguna sign . > Satguna means knowledge , this knowledge may be related to any field. > In jamini we know the dual signs interfere with each other means knowledge of one aspect interfere with another field , and the highest is the winner means in which field one has focused maximum that overtake on his thoughts or style of working. Here you find Mars and Moon interfering with Sun and Merc.and moon is leading. > Jupiter in cancer supported by moon exchange from his asc , give great knowledge but the Jupiter is directed toward Rahu and is not a leader here. > A tamoguni planet in the Rajo guni sign having support of other Satwa guni planets / there is no compromise for this man , if he is under the impact of Jupiter or Moon or Sun Merc etc as sub lord, only Rahu as sublord could have saved him , because then the interpertation will reverse, then it would have been an improvement in birth from robber to a good man. > If I was able to add some thing in the present discussion? > > With Best Wishes, > Inder Jit Sahni > > > - > suniljohn_2002 > > Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:52 PM > Sg Lagna - Chart 12 - Assassin of Robert Kennedy > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > Dear > > Again emailer is quoted > > ''SirhanSirhan was an anti-Semitic, anti-American, pro-Palistinian who > killed Robert Kennedy because he was violently opposed to Robert > Kennedy's support of Israel. From the time he was a child, Sirhan had > been indoctrinated inideologies that are at the center of his murderous > act: > > http://www.crimemagazine.com/05/sirhansirhan,0906-5.htm > > AstroDatabank > > Full Dossier > > As of: Sep 01 2006 Filter: (Unnamed) > > Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN > > Name: SIRHAN, SIRHAN 03/19/1944 Place: Jerusalem, > Israel Lat: 31 N 46 > > Gender: M Time: 02:00 EET (-2:00) Lng: 35 E 14 > > Data Source: From memory Rodden Rating: A > > Source Notes: Jim Eshelman quotes Charles Zemont from a family > member > > Biography: Israeli assassin violently opposed to Robert Kennedy's > support of Israel; he shot him to death on 6/05/1968 in Los Angeles, CA. > > Convicted of murder and five counts of assault in > the wounding of five others, he was sentenced to death. In 1972, his > death sentence > > was commuted to life imprisonment. Born in > Jerusalem, he was raised a Christian who entered the U.S. in 1957 as a > permanent > > resident. > > In June 1997 his parole was denied for the tenth > time. > > Categories: Criminal Perpetrator: Homicide single Robert F. > Kennedy > > Home: Expatriate Moved to > U.S. > > Criminal Perpetrator: Assault/ Battery > Five counts > > Book Collection: Crime Collection > > Famous: Criminal cases > Assassin of RFK > > Events: Family: Change residence 1957 0 Day Entered U.S. as > permanent resident > > Crime: Homicide Perpetration > 6/5/1968 0 Day > Shot Robert F. Kennedy to death > > Crime: Other Crime 1972 > 0 Day Sentence commuted > > Relationships: Kennedy, Bobby Homicide victim > > Chart Notes: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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