Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Chandrashekarji, I understand. We got diverted from hitlers chart. Now If I understand what u wrote then u are agreeing to Sanjays translation of the sutra of Jaimini (ignoring Shakti yoga word), wouldn't the sutra apply here in Hitlers case??? Regards, Sunil John , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I can only talk about the interpretation of the sutra by Sanjay and not > anything else. This is so as we are talking about Jaimini and the yoga > is related to that sutra as per Sanjay's comments later on in the book. > > Chandrashekhar. > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE BOOK, > > so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti which you > > must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay Rath and > > there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read then there > > are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of Visti so > > they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their conscience > > or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site > > > > www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>> > > > > If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I know > > there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the correct > > Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible I test > > his principles as time permits and take what works - that is honest > > astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him and tell > > him directly or seek clarification. > > > > On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala (Jhora > > doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating Istha Phala > > on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be nice. I > > might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at cyber cafe > > or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I shall > > check. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. Sanjay is > > Guru > > > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name Shakti > > > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this fact in his > > book. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their Parampara > > > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for new > > comers i > > > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's article on > > > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these (Moon and > > > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, AK, the > > > > native > > > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There is no > > > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is there any > > > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and 9th ( > > in > > > > the > > > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 to 56 > > are > > > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to sorrow, in > > > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to others. > > > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of or to > > > > native's > > > > > Mother. > > > > > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as mother but > > has > > > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra 4.1.52. > > The > > > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, to me, > > as > > > > rahu > > > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother or to > > > > mother > > > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as propounded by > > the > > > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must have his > > own > > > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in > > successive > > > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like to ask > > him > > > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we meet. > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So tying > > Moon > > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings may not > > be > > > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of madness, if > > I > > > > may > > > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu > > combination > > > > and > > > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and aspecting > > the > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on Shakti > > Yoga, > > > > which > > > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his site but > > this > > > > is > > > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the Moon in > > > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it caused the > > end > > > > of > > > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini Upadesha Sutra > > > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the 5th house > > (or > > > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will assume the > > > > nature > > > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a basic > > mail > > > > on > > > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Dear Sunil, Sanjay translates it as: " If these (Moo and Rahu) conjoin/aspect the 5th or the 9th houses from the ascendant/atmakaraka the native assumes the nature of destroyer of all creation" I do not see that happening in Hitler's chart. They aspect each other from 3rd and 9th but both neither conjoin nor aspect the 9th or 5th bhava together. Chandrashekhar. suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > I understand. We got diverted from hitlers chart. Now If I understand > what u wrote then u are agreeing to Sanjays translation of the sutra of > Jaimini (ignoring Shakti yoga word), wouldn't the sutra apply here in > Hitlers case??? > > Regards, > > Sunil John > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I can only talk about the interpretation of the sutra by Sanjay and > not > > anything else. This is so as we are talking about Jaimini and the yoga > > is related to that sutra as per Sanjay's comments later on in the > book. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE > BOOK, > > > so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti which > you > > > must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay Rath > and > > > there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read then > there > > > are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of Visti so > > > they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their > conscience > > > or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site > > > > > > www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com> > <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I know > > > there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the > correct > > > Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible I > test > > > his principles as time permits and take what works - that is honest > > > astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him and > tell > > > him directly or seek clarification. > > > > > > On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala (Jhora > > > doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating Istha > Phala > > > on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be > nice. I > > > might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at cyber > cafe > > > or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I shall > > > check. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. Sanjay is > > > Guru > > > > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name > Shakti > > > > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this fact in > his > > > book. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their > Parampara > > > > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for new > > > comers i > > > > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > > > > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's > article on > > > > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these (Moon > and > > > > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, AK, > the > > > > > native > > > > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There is > no > > > > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is there > any > > > > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and 9th > ( > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 to > 56 > > > are > > > > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to sorrow, > in > > > > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to > others. > > > > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of or > to > > > > > native's > > > > > > Mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as mother > but > > > has > > > > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra > 4.1.52. > > > The > > > > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, to > me, > > > as > > > > > rahu > > > > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother or > to > > > > > mother > > > > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as propounded > by > > > the > > > > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must have > his > > > own > > > > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in > > > successive > > > > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like to > ask > > > him > > > > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we > meet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So > tying > > > Moon > > > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings may > not > > > be > > > > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of madness, > if > > > I > > > > > may > > > > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu > > > combination > > > > > and > > > > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and > aspecting > > > the > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on Shakti > > > Yoga, > > > > > which > > > > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his site > but > > > this > > > > > is > > > > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the Moon > in > > > > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it caused > the > > > end > > > > > of > > > > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini Upadesha > Sutra > > > > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the 5th > house > > > (or > > > > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will assume > the > > > > > nature > > > > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a > basic > > > mail > > > > > on > > > > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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