Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Prafullaji ,Friends and members, If You ask me to leave ,I can do so immediately without asking for any reasons. But before that, I request You to, a) Go through starting of the threads, and observe b) whether I have tried to wrong the member in question. c) have i not tried to stay away from the discussions d) in 2 mails by saying that I fold my hands e) were the queries put up initially related to the mail attached ? f) were they defined as to what the query were meant ? g) after I declined to answer were the comments put to me warranted ? h) Could anyone understand those queries ? i) Was not the hidden purport behind asking those questions very clear? j) was not provocation made ? k) to make me utter something l) so that more comments would follow ? m) which i would have to reply being self respecting man as all here? n) was all this not done to put me in bad light ? anyway, I have always said straight from the heart, yet if you people feel that I have wronged anyone, I wil leave calmly, without uttering a single word. My apologies to Shri Prafullaji and other members over here for all this exchange unnecessary created due to my participation too. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Mr Bhaskar, No one can help in your "own" assumptions. Bad words and trying to tarnish someone's image - can never have any justifications..even statements like - such words coming from "heart", implies much more !! Speaking from "your" heart is not necessarily the truth. Sir, it is not a private domain - where we can speak the way we assume. On public forum, no one should be allowed to accuse and abuse. I have spent an age on this forum, and have considered this one as one of my own forum (for the sense of belonging, I have developed). Your false statements have deeply hurt me and my self respect. Once you slap someone for your own assumptions / preconceived notions, and then apologize - does it restore what you have hurt. Can you undo the deliberate damage? If one can not, then one must think n times for putting forth false accusations. Very rarely, I get hurt or affected like this in my entire tenure as jyotish student or on this forum. Will you like to accept that - your abuses / accusations made - are with malice and wrong intent; and are not the truth. Yes, this can perhaps absolve you from the wrong doing. In my entire professional career(20 years) and public forum participation for past 15 years (including this forum), I was ever questioned for my integrity. Even with my limited knowledge in jyotish, my participation was encouraged by most participants. No one had any such bad taste. You have tried to malign it deliberately .. perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend. You choose definitions and let heart be the flag. Your decision to continue or to leave the forum has to be your own decision; or perhaps moderator's decision. I have no comment to offer. regards / Prafulla Gang vedic astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Prafullaji ,Friends and members, > > If You ask me to leave ,I can do so immediately without asking for > any reasons. But before that, I request You to, > > a) Go through starting of the threads, and observe > b) whether I have tried to wrong the member in question. > c) have i not tried to stay away from the discussions > d) in 2 mails by saying that I fold my hands > e) were the queries put up initially related to the mail attached ? > f) were they defined as to what the query were meant ? > g) after I declined to answer were the comments put to me warranted ? > h) Could anyone understand those queries ? > i) Was not the hidden purport behind asking those questions very > clear? > j) was not provocation made ? > k) to make me utter something > l) so that more comments would follow ? > m) which i would have to reply being self respecting man as all here? > n) was all this not done to put me in bad light ? > > anyway, I have always said straight from the heart, > yet if you people feel that I have wronged anyone, > I wil leave calmly, without uttering a single word. > My apologies to Shri Prafullaji and other members over here for all > this exchange unnecessary created due to my participation too. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Shri Prafullaji, I have already said that from now onwards I shall not be writing, not only on this Forum but not even on any other Jyotish Forums, since I have been pained very much by the turn of events and do not want in future to be cause of unhappiness to anyone. But You should not say this what You have said "You have tried to malign it deliberately .. perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend' Please do not think so cheaply about me. I will be the last person to behave lowly in any manner for such flimsy reasons. This is my last mail on this Forum.Please do not provoke me in writing any more. regards, Bhaskar. vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > No one can help in your "own" assumptions. Bad words and trying to > tarnish someone's image - can never have any justifications..even > statements like - such words coming from "heart", implies much more !! > Speaking from "your" heart is not necessarily the truth. Sir, it is > not a private domain - where we can speak the way we assume. > > On public forum, no one should be allowed to accuse and abuse. I have > spent an age on this forum, and have considered this one as one of my > own forum (for the sense of belonging, I have developed). Your false > statements have deeply hurt me and my self respect. Once you slap > someone for your own assumptions / preconceived notions, and then > apologize - does it restore what you have hurt. Can you undo the > deliberate damage? If one can not, then one must think n times for > putting forth false accusations. Very rarely, I get hurt or affected > like this in my entire tenure as jyotish student or on this forum. > > Will you like to accept that - your abuses / accusations made - are > with malice and wrong intent; and are not the truth. Yes, this can > perhaps absolve you from the wrong doing. > > In my entire professional career(20 years) and public forum > participation for past 15 years (including this forum), I was ever > questioned for my integrity. Even with my limited knowledge in > jyotish, my participation was encouraged by most participants. No one > had any such bad taste. You have tried to malign it deliberately .. > perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend. You choose > definitions and let heart be the flag. > > Your decision to continue or to leave the forum has to be your own > decision; or perhaps moderator's decision. I have no comment to offer. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > vedic astrology, "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafullaji ,Friends and members, > > > > If You ask me to leave ,I can do so immediately without asking for > > any reasons. But before that, I request You to, > > > > a) Go through starting of the threads, and observe > > b) whether I have tried to wrong the member in question. > > c) have i not tried to stay away from the discussions > > d) in 2 mails by saying that I fold my hands > > e) were the queries put up initially related to the mail attached ? > > f) were they defined as to what the query were meant ? > > g) after I declined to answer were the comments put to me warranted ? > > h) Could anyone understand those queries ? > > i) Was not the hidden purport behind asking those questions very > > clear? > > j) was not provocation made ? > > k) to make me utter something > > l) so that more comments would follow ? > > m) which i would have to reply being self respecting man as all here? > > n) was all this not done to put me in bad light ? > > > > anyway, I have always said straight from the heart, > > yet if you people feel that I have wronged anyone, > > I wil leave calmly, without uttering a single word. > > My apologies to Shri Prafullaji and other members over here for all > > this exchange unnecessary created due to my participation too. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Dear All, On an earlier occasion, I had suggested availability of a database of all this Forum members for all to know each others details so that one knows with whom they are interacting. This will help a lot to respect each others. We know only the names, he may be a common man, executive, intellectual etc... Once the status is known, people will not write mails like this unless they have some personal enemity. In such cases the Moderators can censor the mails. For example, from my name could anybody make a wild gues about me ?? I am aged 56, almost at the verge of retirement. Working as Administration Officer of an Oil Storage Company at Fujairah, U.A.E. I have taken up Astrology from 2002 onwards and is a student of SJC. So when I write something, the maturity of age shall always be seen but the same time immaturity in Astrology will also be present. Once a Senior member of this Forum ridiculed me in attempting a quiz, I immediately understood the humour(!!!!!) and responded simply stating that I am learning from my mistakes or from somebody's mistakes. Hope the Moderators shall consider the situation and promote cordial interaction between members by blocking such mails which do not have an Astrology content. I value the exposure this Forum gives to the cause of Astrology and would wish to uphold its spirits. Regards Ravi Nair Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Mr Bhaskar, No one can help in your "own" assumptions. Bad words and trying to tarnish someone's image - can never have any justifications..even statements like - such words coming from "heart", implies much more !! Speaking from "your" heart is not necessarily the truth. Sir, it is not a private domain - where we can speak the way we assume. On public forum, no one should be allowed to accuse and abuse. I have spent an age on this forum, and have considered this one as one of my own forum (for the sense of belonging, I have developed). Your false statements have deeply hurt me and my self respect. Once you slap someone for your own assumptions / preconceived notions, and then apologize - does it restore what you have hurt. Can you undo the deliberate damage? If one can not, then one must think n times for putting forth false accusations. Very rarely, I get hurt or affected like this in my entire tenure as jyotish student or on this forum. Will you like to accept that - your abuses / accusations made - are with malice and wrong intent; and are not the truth. Yes, this can perhaps absolve you from the wrong doing. In my entire professional career(20 years) and public forum participation for past 15 years (including this forum), I was ever questioned for my integrity. Even with my limited knowledge in jyotish, my participation was encouraged by most participants. No one had any such bad taste. You have tried to malign it deliberately .. perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend. You choose definitions and let heart be the flag. Your decision to continue or to leave the forum has to be your own decision; or perhaps moderator's decision. I have no comment to offer. regards / Prafulla Gang vedic astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Prafullaji ,Friends and members, > > If You ask me to leave ,I can do so immediately without asking for > any reasons. But before that, I request You to, > > a) Go through starting of the threads, and observe > b) whether I have tried to wrong the member in question. > c) have i not tried to stay away from the discussions > d) in 2 mails by saying that I fold my hands > e) were the queries put up initially related to the mail attached ? > f) were they defined as to what the query were meant ? > g) after I declined to answer were the comments put to me warranted ? > h) Could anyone understand those queries ? > i) Was not the hidden purport behind asking those questions very > clear? > j) was not provocation made ? > k) to make me utter something > l) so that more comments would follow ? > m) which i would have to reply being self respecting man as all here? > n) was all this not done to put me in bad light ? > > anyway, I have always said straight from the heart, > yet if you people feel that I have wronged anyone, > I wil leave calmly, without uttering a single word. > My apologies to Shri Prafullaji and other members over here for all > this exchange unnecessary created due to my participation too. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, Though this thread has ended, I thought we could think of a few hints in making ourselves effective: An emotional reaction to anything you feel is a personal or unwarranted attack, WONT help. It only adds fuel to the fire. More so, people who are mere observants might forget the original problem and start taking sides, instead of being objective. Hence make it a rule - to NEVER get emotional or affected when anyone trying to pull your strings. Be very very careful in your speech and words, especially in those situations. Otherwise it might as well turn against you. Especially if the other guy can articulate well, he might collect more supporters than you !! We all understand plain English. The better way to deal would be to get the original English sentence and request the other person to point out the relevance of his new point to the discussion thread. Simple. If he cant, just end it there saying that you never meant it. No need to showcase his worth (or lack of it) to the others. If he or she continues on ranting about purpose of the group and this and that, simply ignore. Its a useless waste of time. I hope you have enough things to do with your time, than having to prove yourself unnecessarily. Discriminating and ignoring is the only solution. Dont become a puppet and let someone bend you with some arguments. Do not to let someone knock off you from your foot, even if they try to. All situations in life are learning lessons. Even such trivial stuff help us learn patience, maintain our sense of worth, self-control, not letting our strings loose to someone. Hope this helps. Take it easy. Regards Radhika vedic astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri Prafullaji, > > I have already said that from now onwards I shall not be writing, > not only on this Forum but not even on any other Jyotish Forums, > since I have been pained very much by the turn of events and do not > want in future to be cause of unhappiness to anyone. > > But You should not say this what You have said > > "You have tried to malign it deliberately .. > perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend' > > Please do not think so cheaply about me. I will be the last > person to behave lowly in any manner for such flimsy reasons. > > This is my last mail on this Forum.Please do not provoke me in > writing any more. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > No one can help in your "own" assumptions. Bad words and trying to > > tarnish someone's image - can never have any justifications..even > > statements like - such words coming from "heart", implies much > more !! > > Speaking from "your" heart is not necessarily the truth. Sir, it > is > > not a private domain - where we can speak the way we assume. > > > > On public forum, no one should be allowed to accuse and abuse. I > have > > spent an age on this forum, and have considered this one as one of > my > > own forum (for the sense of belonging, I have developed). Your false > > statements have deeply hurt me and my self respect. Once you slap > > someone for your own assumptions / preconceived notions, and then > > apologize - does it restore what you have hurt. Can you undo the > > deliberate damage? If one can not, then one must think n times for > > putting forth false accusations. Very rarely, I get hurt or > affected > > like this in my entire tenure as jyotish student or on this forum. > > > > Will you like to accept that - your abuses / accusations made - are > > with malice and wrong intent; and are not the truth. Yes, this can > > perhaps absolve you from the wrong doing. > > > > In my entire professional career(20 years) and public forum > > participation for past 15 years (including this forum), I was ever > > questioned for my integrity. Even with my limited knowledge in > > jyotish, my participation was encouraged by most participants. No > one > > had any such bad taste. You have tried to malign it deliberately .. > > perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend. You choose > > definitions and let heart be the flag. > > > > Your decision to continue or to leave the forum has to be your own > > decision; or perhaps moderator's decision. I have no comment to > offer. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > vedic astrology, "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prafullaji ,Friends and members, > > > > > > If You ask me to leave ,I can do so immediately without asking > for > > > any reasons. But before that, I request You to, > > > > > > a) Go through starting of the threads, and observe > > > b) whether I have tried to wrong the member in question. > > > c) have i not tried to stay away from the discussions > > > d) in 2 mails by saying that I fold my hands > > > e) were the queries put up initially related to the mail > attached ? > > > f) were they defined as to what the query were meant ? > > > g) after I declined to answer were the comments put to me > warranted ? > > > h) Could anyone understand those queries ? > > > i) Was not the hidden purport behind asking those questions very > > > clear? > > > j) was not provocation made ? > > > k) to make me utter something > > > l) so that more comments would follow ? > > > m) which i would have to reply being self respecting man as all > here? > > > n) was all this not done to put me in bad light ? > > > > > > anyway, I have always said straight from the heart, > > > yet if you people feel that I have wronged anyone, > > > I wil leave calmly, without uttering a single word. > > > My apologies to Shri Prafullaji and other members over here for > all > > > this exchange unnecessary created due to my participation too. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi bhaskar, please stop being a baby.... get on with life, will you? Kishore patnaik On 8/30/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Shri Prafullaji, > > I have already said that from now onwards I shall not be writing, > not only on this Forum but not even on any other Jyotish Forums, > since I have been pained very much by the turn of events and do not > want in future to be cause of unhappiness to anyone. > > But You should not say this what You have said > > "You have tried to malign it deliberately .. > perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend' > > Please do not think so cheaply about me. I will be the last > person to behave lowly in any manner for such flimsy reasons. > > This is my last mail on this Forum.Please do not provoke me in > writing any more. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > No one can help in your "own" assumptions. Bad words and trying to > > tarnish someone's image - can never have any justifications..even > > statements like - such words coming from "heart", implies much > more !! > > Speaking from "your" heart is not necessarily the truth. Sir, it > is > > not a private domain - where we can speak the way we assume. > > > > On public forum, no one should be allowed to accuse and abuse. I > have > > spent an age on this forum, and have considered this one as one of > my > > own forum (for the sense of belonging, I have developed). Your false > > statements have deeply hurt me and my self respect. Once you slap > > someone for your own assumptions / preconceived notions, and then > > apologize - does it restore what you have hurt. Can you undo the > > deliberate damage? If one can not, then one must think n times for > > putting forth false accusations. Very rarely, I get hurt or > affected > > like this in my entire tenure as jyotish student or on this forum. > > > > Will you like to accept that - your abuses / accusations made - are > > with malice and wrong intent; and are not the truth. Yes, this can > > perhaps absolve you from the wrong doing. > > > > In my entire professional career(20 years) and public forum > > participation for past 15 years (including this forum), I was ever > > questioned for my integrity. Even with my limited knowledge in > > jyotish, my participation was encouraged by most participants. No > one > > had any such bad taste. You have tried to malign it deliberately .. > > perhaps because - I refused to accept you as your friend. You choose > > definitions and let heart be the flag. > > > > Your decision to continue or to leave the forum has to be your own > > decision; or perhaps moderator's decision. I have no comment to > offer. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > vedic astrology, "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prafullaji ,Friends and members, > > > > > > If You ask me to leave ,I can do so immediately without asking > for > > > any reasons. But before that, I request You to, > > > > > > a) Go through starting of the threads, and observe > > > b) whether I have tried to wrong the member in question. > > > c) have i not tried to stay away from the discussions > > > d) in 2 mails by saying that I fold my hands > > > e) were the queries put up initially related to the mail > attached ? > > > f) were they defined as to what the query were meant ? > > > g) after I declined to answer were the comments put to me > warranted ? > > > h) Could anyone understand those queries ? > > > i) Was not the hidden purport behind asking those questions very > > > clear? > > > j) was not provocation made ? > > > k) to make me utter something > > > l) so that more comments would follow ? > > > m) which i would have to reply being self respecting man as all > here? > > > n) was all this not done to put me in bad light ? > > > > > > anyway, I have always said straight from the heart, > > > yet if you people feel that I have wronged anyone, > > > I wil leave calmly, without uttering a single word. > > > My apologies to Shri Prafullaji and other members over here for > all > > > this exchange unnecessary created due to my participation too. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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