Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Sunil and respected memebers We can stop our learning either at - '' Nirirti or Yama is the devata of Moola signifying destruction'' - or we can learn further and understand why it is so.If it interêsts you,kindly read on. I was fortunate to find one article by shri Chandrahari,from my folders.He is not having dhanu lagna -but Meena Lagna with Vargottama Shukra,Paramocha,forming Malavya in lagna. Explaining the Tantric logic behind Skandolpathi - He says Moola Nakshathra,the yoga-thara, the junction between Vrischika/Dhanu Rashi is Siva the Yoga-KalaMurthi.He is the Parateeka of Time,He is the Sarpa called Kundalini and He is Nagaraja. In the Meru-Dandha present in Man or Jeevashareera,there is an adhobindu or Linga-Yoni Bindhu.The concept of Siva or Maha Yogi- Yoginee Sankalpa,is based on the Kundalini sleeping as NagaRaja or Nagayakshi, over the above said Bindu. ''MeruDanda is a Parvata and Sun the PranaSwaroopa, makes daily Pradakshina around this MahaMeru.Similarly in Brahmanda,AkashaGanga is passing along the Adhobindu of this Meru.Nirirti or Yama is the Devata of this AdhoBindu called Moola Nakshathra.Moola is the place where Aakasha Ganga is cutting SooryaPadha or Ecliptic.Hence Siva is called Gangadhara (One who wears Ganga) and the Abhisheka jaladhara in Siva temples became Ganga.He says Dhanu is the Dhanuss of Siva.'' Thus i feel there is no better DharamaRaja than Yamaraja and we may understand why Dhanu is the sthana of Dharma. Moreover with help of SivaPurana he further says, 240 degrees is - Shri Moola Sthanam.It is Linga -Yoni- Kala Linga - Mrityusthana of Kalapurusha - Mahakala-Mahakali-Mooladhara -Kundalini-Aadi Guru- Parama Guru-MahaYogi-Mahadevan- Vaidyanathan-Dhanwanthari-Mrithyunjayan-MrithaSanjeevini -Gangadhara etc. It is the junction of Mrityu-Mrityunjaya and it is Shmashana.Agni is present there and Agni represents NavaValsara.It is the thrid eye of Mahakala(destruction).Also SuryaChandragni Vilochana and Moola Samkrama Yugadi. Why is Saraswati devi worshipped on Moola nakshathra day during navarathri.Why is Guru the Sattwa Murthi having mooltrikona in Moola.What can a Guru destroy?Guru is the knower of Vedashasthras and the one who knows Supreme Truth.What will he destroy?Moola is Root.What is root?.What is Karma bandha and attachment.What is the destruction happening here.What is being uprooted?What is the spiritual significance of this uprooting. I know it is a longish mail and had to translate Malayalam articles.But i hope this will help,if the point is driven home -Not to take words like Nirirti and Destruction,in a lighter sense,as the philosophical angle underlying is so deep. Thanks Pradeep , "suniljohn_2002" <suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > Dear List, > > Been thinking from some days since this discussion started. I was also > hoping someone would write these things . This is my limited view and > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this in brief > if possible. Ramanarayanan is the best candidate for deeper insight, but > he is not a member of this list. > > > > * To understand Rasi (apart from symbol of it stated earlier) > another way is to see his Kalapurusha Sthana & role accorded to it that > is of of 9H of Dharma etc etc > * It has 3 Naks Moola, P.Ash & U.Ash (1 charan) > * Moola nak has been my deep fascination since I feel its one of the > most important nak, haven't been able to study nak in depth but Moola > means the Root & the Galactic Center is here am told, making it most > most important is what am told > * Moola deity is Nirriti, the Goddess of Destruction - many shades > to this. > * P.Ash diety is Apas(waters) according to Frawley > * U.Ash diety is Universal Gods (Vishwa Deva) - > > Taking the 3 dieties into account can we infer the nature of Sagi apart > from the basic Guru lordship etc etc - two things that stand out is > Destruction (Nirriti) & Gods (Vishwadeva - religion dharma etc) > > > > > > I might be going out of town to a village for few days so if there is no > reply to any mails kindly understand . > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil John > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Dear Pradeep, A difficult concept beautifully explained. Pleas also give my compliments to Chandra Hari. This is tantra at its best. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Sunil and respected memebers > > We can stop our learning either at - '' Nirirti or Yama is the > devata of Moola signifying destruction'' - or we can learn further > and understand why it is so.If it interêsts you,kindly read on. > > I was fortunate to find one article by shri Chandrahari,from my > folders.He is not having dhanu lagna -but Meena Lagna with > Vargottama Shukra,Paramocha,forming Malavya in lagna. > > Explaining the Tantric logic behind Skandolpathi - > He says Moola Nakshathra,the yoga-thara, the junction between > Vrischika/Dhanu Rashi is Siva the Yoga-KalaMurthi.He is the > Parateeka of Time,He is the Sarpa called Kundalini and He is > Nagaraja. > In the Meru-Dandha present in Man or Jeevashareera,there is an > adhobindu or Linga-Yoni Bindhu.The concept of Siva or Maha Yogi- > Yoginee Sankalpa,is based on the Kundalini sleeping as NagaRaja or > Nagayakshi, over the above said Bindu. > > ''MeruDanda is a Parvata and Sun the PranaSwaroopa, makes daily > Pradakshina around this MahaMeru.Similarly in Brahmanda,AkashaGanga > is passing along the Adhobindu of this Meru.Nirirti or Yama is the > Devata of this AdhoBindu called Moola Nakshathra.Moola is the place > where Aakasha Ganga is cutting SooryaPadha or Ecliptic.Hence Siva is > called Gangadhara (One who wears Ganga) and the Abhisheka jaladhara > in Siva temples became Ganga.He says Dhanu is the Dhanuss of Siva.'' > Thus i feel there is no better DharamaRaja than Yamaraja and we may > understand why Dhanu is the sthana of Dharma. > > Moreover with help of SivaPurana he further says, 240 degrees is - > Shri Moola Sthanam.It is Linga -Yoni- Kala Linga - Mrityusthana of > Kalapurusha - Mahakala-Mahakali-Mooladhara -Kundalini-Aadi Guru- > Parama Guru-MahaYogi-Mahadevan- > Vaidyanathan-Dhanwanthari-Mrithyunjayan-MrithaSanjeevini -Gangadhara > etc. > > It is the junction of Mrityu-Mrityunjaya and it is Shmashana.Agni is > present there and Agni represents NavaValsara.It is the thrid eye of > Mahakala(destruction).Also SuryaChandragni Vilochana and Moola > Samkrama Yugadi. > > Why is Saraswati devi worshipped on Moola nakshathra day during > navarathri.Why is Guru the Sattwa Murthi having mooltrikona in > Moola.What can a Guru destroy?Guru is the knower of Vedashasthras > and the one who knows Supreme Truth.What > will he destroy?Moola is Root.What is root?.What is Karma bandha and > attachment.What is the destruction happening here.What is being > uprooted?What is the spiritual significance of this uprooting. > > I know it is a longish mail and had to translate Malayalam > articles.But i hope this will help,if the point is driven home -Not > to take words like Nirirti and Destruction,in a lighter sense,as > the philosophical angle underlying is so deep. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > <%40>, "suniljohn_2002" > <suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > Been thinking from some days since this discussion started. I was > also > > hoping someone would write these things . This is my limited view > and > > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this in > brief > > if possible. Ramanarayanan is the best candidate for deeper > insight, but > > he is not a member of this list. > > > > > > > > * To understand Rasi (apart from symbol of it stated earlier) > > another way is to see his Kalapurusha Sthana & role accorded to it > that > > is of of 9H of Dharma etc etc > > * It has 3 Naks Moola, P.Ash & U.Ash (1 charan) > > * Moola nak has been my deep fascination since I feel its one > of the > > most important nak, haven't been able to study nak in depth but > Moola > > means the Root & the Galactic Center is here am told, making it > most > > most important is what am told > > * Moola deity is Nirriti, the Goddess of Destruction - many > shades > > to this. > > * P.Ash diety is Apas(waters) according to Frawley > > * U.Ash diety is Universal Gods (Vishwa Deva) - > > > > Taking the 3 dieties into account can we infer the nature of Sagi > apart > > from the basic Guru lordship etc etc - two things that stand out is > > Destruction (Nirriti) & Gods (Vishwadeva - religion dharma etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > I might be going out of town to a village for few days so if there > is no > > reply to any mails kindly understand . > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Dear Chandrashekhar ji I will pass on your compliments to shri Chandrahari.It is only the blessings and company of learned men including you that makes me understand these otherwise, Nigoodha shastras. Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things but few are those, complimenting good things. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > A difficult concept beautifully explained. Pleas also give my > compliments to Chandra Hari. This is tantra at its best. > > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil and respected memebers > > > > We can stop our learning either at - '' Nirirti or Yama is the > > devata of Moola signifying destruction'' - or we can learn further > > and understand why it is so.If it interêsts you,kindly read on. > > > > I was fortunate to find one article by shri Chandrahari,from my > > folders.He is not having dhanu lagna -but Meena Lagna with > > Vargottama Shukra,Paramocha,forming Malavya in lagna. > > > > Explaining the Tantric logic behind Skandolpathi - > > He says Moola Nakshathra,the yoga-thara, the junction between > > Vrischika/Dhanu Rashi is Siva the Yoga-KalaMurthi.He is the > > Parateeka of Time,He is the Sarpa called Kundalini and He is > > Nagaraja. > > In the Meru-Dandha present in Man or Jeevashareera,there is an > > adhobindu or Linga-Yoni Bindhu.The concept of Siva or Maha Yogi- > > Yoginee Sankalpa,is based on the Kundalini sleeping as NagaRaja or > > Nagayakshi, over the above said Bindu. > > > > ''MeruDanda is a Parvata and Sun the PranaSwaroopa, makes daily > > Pradakshina around this MahaMeru.Similarly in Brahmanda,AkashaGanga > > is passing along the Adhobindu of this Meru.Nirirti or Yama is the > > Devata of this AdhoBindu called Moola Nakshathra.Moola is the place > > where Aakasha Ganga is cutting SooryaPadha or Ecliptic.Hence Siva is > > called Gangadhara (One who wears Ganga) and the Abhisheka jaladhara > > in Siva temples became Ganga.He says Dhanu is the Dhanuss of Siva.'' > > Thus i feel there is no better DharamaRaja than Yamaraja and we may > > understand why Dhanu is the sthana of Dharma. > > > > Moreover with help of SivaPurana he further says, 240 degrees is - > > Shri Moola Sthanam.It is Linga -Yoni- Kala Linga - Mrityusthana of > > Kalapurusha - Mahakala-Mahakali-Mooladhara -Kundalini-Aadi Guru- > > Parama Guru-MahaYogi-Mahadevan- > > Vaidyanathan-Dhanwanthari-Mrithyunjayan-MrithaSanjeevini -Gangadhara > > etc. > > > > It is the junction of Mrityu-Mrityunjaya and it is Shmashana.Agni is > > present there and Agni represents NavaValsara.It is the thrid eye of > > Mahakala(destruction).Also SuryaChandragni Vilochana and Moola > > Samkrama Yugadi. > > > > Why is Saraswati devi worshipped on Moola nakshathra day during > > navarathri.Why is Guru the Sattwa Murthi having mooltrikona in > > Moola.What can a Guru destroy?Guru is the knower of Vedashasthras > > and the one who knows Supreme Truth.What > > will he destroy?Moola is Root.What is root?.What is Karma bandha and > > attachment.What is the destruction happening here.What is being > > uprooted?What is the spiritual significance of this uprooting. > > > > I know it is a longish mail and had to translate Malayalam > > articles.But i hope this will help,if the point is driven home -Not > > to take words like Nirirti and Destruction,in a lighter sense,as > > the philosophical angle underlying is so deep. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > <%40>, "suniljohn_2002" > > <suniljohn_2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Been thinking from some days since this discussion started. I was > > also > > > hoping someone would write these things . This is my limited view > > and > > > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this in > > brief > > > if possible. Ramanarayanan is the best candidate for deeper > > insight, but > > > he is not a member of this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > * To understand Rasi (apart from symbol of it stated earlier) > > > another way is to see his Kalapurusha Sthana & role accorded to it > > that > > > is of of 9H of Dharma etc etc > > > * It has 3 Naks Moola, P.Ash & U.Ash (1 charan) > > > * Moola nak has been my deep fascination since I feel its one > > of the > > > most important nak, haven't been able to study nak in depth but > > Moola > > > means the Root & the Galactic Center is here am told, making it > > most > > > most important is what am told > > > * Moola deity is Nirriti, the Goddess of Destruction - many > > shades > > > to this. > > > * P.Ash diety is Apas(waters) according to Frawley > > > * U.Ash diety is Universal Gods (Vishwa Deva) - > > > > > > Taking the 3 dieties into account can we infer the nature of Sagi > > apart > > > from the basic Guru lordship etc etc - two things that stand out is > > > Destruction (Nirriti) & Gods (Vishwadeva - religion dharma etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I might be going out of town to a village for few days so if there > > is no > > > reply to any mails kindly understand . > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Pradeep, I have read this piece long back & hence I had said someone should post easier to understand deeper meaning on Nirriti, I had written. This is my limited view> > > and> > > > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this in > > > brief > > > > if possible. every indian knows the meaning of Shiva & his being called the destroyer also means destroying the evil within. Since your post was too long and I recognised having read similar stuff I didn't read ur mail as I can't waste 4-5 hours on list in a day and hence only read brief mails though I myself write long mails I JUST LOVE what u wrote > Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things> but few are those, complimenting good things. Incidentally my observation is, very few are capable of doing honest astrology & the philosophy of I scratch ur back u scratch mine is so prelavant , I will praise u and u praise me & it is not possible for us to defend the truth or dig deeper into truth and go public in our views even if it means going against our Gurus views or those we support. I indulged in same for yrs on the VA list and realised I was not doing honest astrology, respecting the science for its sacredness. See What was written in other post I do not find any reference of it(Sagi) being sign of racist and do not knowwhere from your senior astrologer friend got that reference. will youplease ask him for a quote? Swami Vivekananda was Sagittarius rising andI do not remember anybody calling him racist. [sunil]: I posted 7-8 charts with Sagi Lagna and can post more but I wonder how many tested it & had the GUTS to say the truth. I expect too much since it is so easy to quote slokas say Parasara said this but honestly testing a technique ........ & understanding if the Sage ever said to be truthful TO the SHASTRA of Astrology, anyways. Regards, Sunil John , "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > I will pass on your compliments to shri Chandrahari.It is only the > blessings and company of learned men including you that makes me > understand these otherwise, Nigoodha shastras. > Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things > but few are those, complimenting good things. > > Respect > Pradeep > , Chandrashekhar > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > A difficult concept beautifully explained. Pleas also give my > > compliments to Chandra Hari. This is tantra at its best. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil and respected memebers > > > > > > We can stop our learning either at - '' Nirirti or Yama is the > > > devata of Moola signifying destruction'' - or we can learn further > > > and understand why it is so.If it interêsts you,kindly read on. > > > > > > I was fortunate to find one article by shri Chandrahari,from my > > > folders.He is not having dhanu lagna -but Meena Lagna with > > > Vargottama Shukra,Paramocha,forming Malavya in lagna. > > > > > > Explaining the Tantric logic behind Skandolpathi - > > > He says Moola Nakshathra,the yoga-thara, the junction between > > > Vrischika/Dhanu Rashi is Siva the Yoga-KalaMurthi.He is the > > > Parateeka of Time,He is the Sarpa called Kundalini and He is > > > Nagaraja. > > > In the Meru-Dandha present in Man or Jeevashareera,there is an > > > adhobindu or Linga-Yoni Bindhu.The concept of Siva or Maha Yogi- > > > Yoginee Sankalpa,is based on the Kundalini sleeping as NagaRaja or > > > Nagayakshi, over the above said Bindu. > > > > > > ''MeruDanda is a Parvata and Sun the PranaSwaroopa, makes daily > > > Pradakshina around this MahaMeru.Similarly in Brahmanda,AkashaGanga > > > is passing along the Adhobindu of this Meru.Nirirti or Yama is the > > > Devata of this AdhoBindu called Moola Nakshathra.Moola is the place > > > where Aakasha Ganga is cutting SooryaPadha or Ecliptic.Hence Siva is > > > called Gangadhara (One who wears Ganga) and the Abhisheka jaladhara > > > in Siva temples became Ganga.He says Dhanu is the Dhanuss of Siva.'' > > > Thus i feel there is no better DharamaRaja than Yamaraja and we may > > > understand why Dhanu is the sthana of Dharma. > > > > > > Moreover with help of SivaPurana he further says, 240 degrees is - > > > Shri Moola Sthanam.It is Linga -Yoni- Kala Linga - Mrityusthana of > > > Kalapurusha - Mahakala-Mahakali-Mooladhara -Kundalini-Aadi Guru- > > > Parama Guru-MahaYogi-Mahadevan- > > > Vaidyanathan-Dhanwanthari-Mrithyunjayan-MrithaSanjeevini -Gangadhara > > > etc. > > > > > > It is the junction of Mrityu-Mrityunjaya and it is Shmashana.Agni is > > > present there and Agni represents NavaValsara.It is the thrid eye of > > > Mahakala(destruction).Also SuryaChandragni Vilochana and Moola > > > Samkrama Yugadi. > > > > > > Why is Saraswati devi worshipped on Moola nakshathra day during > > > navarathri.Why is Guru the Sattwa Murthi having mooltrikona in > > > Moola.What can a Guru destroy?Guru is the knower of Vedashasthras > > > and the one who knows Supreme Truth.What > > > will he destroy?Moola is Root.What is root?.What is Karma bandha and > > > attachment.What is the destruction happening here.What is being > > > uprooted?What is the spiritual significance of this uprooting. > > > > > > I know it is a longish mail and had to translate Malayalam > > > articles.But i hope this will help,if the point is driven home -Not > > > to take words like Nirirti and Destruction,in a lighter sense,as > > > the philosophical angle underlying is so deep. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > <%40>, "suniljohn_2002" > > > <suniljohn_2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Been thinking from some days since this discussion started. I was > > > also > > > > hoping someone would write these things . This is my limited view > > > and > > > > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this in > > > brief > > > > if possible. Ramanarayanan is the best candidate for deeper > > > insight, but > > > > he is not a member of this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To understand Rasi (apart from symbol of it stated earlier) > > > > another way is to see his Kalapurusha Sthana & role accorded to it > > > that > > > > is of of 9H of Dharma etc etc > > > > * It has 3 Naks Moola, P.Ash & U.Ash (1 charan) > > > > * Moola nak has been my deep fascination since I feel its one > > > of the > > > > most important nak, haven't been able to study nak in depth but > > > Moola > > > > means the Root & the Galactic Center is here am told, making it > > > most > > > > most important is what am told > > > > * Moola deity is Nirriti, the Goddess of Destruction - many > > > shades > > > > to this. > > > > * P.Ash diety is Apas(waters) according to Frawley > > > > * U.Ash diety is Universal Gods (Vishwa Deva) - > > > > > > > > Taking the 3 dieties into account can we infer the nature of Sagi > > > apart > > > > from the basic Guru lordship etc etc - two things that stand out is > > > > Destruction (Nirriti) & Gods (Vishwadeva - religion dharma etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I might be going out of town to a village for few days so if there > > > is no > > > > reply to any mails kindly understand . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Dear Sunil To be honest,i do not praise anyone -like as in ''i praise u, you praise me '' etc.If its worth praising ,praise it and vice-versa.Knowing Chandrashekhar ji, other members can decide for themselves.If something or someone that i have praised is not having substance -kindly raise your objections with logic and we can discuus and decide if a lower rating has to be done or not.In the other case you have to bear my court expenses:-)) Pradeep , "suniljohn_2002" <suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > I have read this piece long back & hence I had said someone should post > easier to understand deeper meaning on Nirriti, > > > > I had written. > > This is my limited view> > > and> > > > would appreciate someone to post > some deeper knowledge on this in > > > > brief > > > > > if possible. every indian knows the meaning of Shiva & his being > called the destroyer also means destroying the evil within. > > > > > > Since your post was too long and I recognised having read similar stuff > I didn't read ur mail as I can't waste 4-5 hours on list in a day and > hence only read brief mails though I myself write long mails > > I JUST LOVE what u wrote > > > Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things> > but few are those, complimenting good things. > > > > Incidentally my observation is, very few are capable of doing honest > astrology & the philosophy of I scratch ur back u scratch mine is so > prelavant , I will praise u and u praise me & it is not possible for us > to defend the truth or dig deeper into truth and go public in our views > even if it means going against our Gurus views or those we support. I > indulged in same for yrs on the VA list and realised I was not doing > honest astrology, respecting the science for its sacredness. > > > > See What was written in other post > > I do not find any reference of it(Sagi) being sign of racist and do not > knowwhere from your senior astrologer friend got that reference. will > youplease ask him for a quote? Swami Vivekananda was Sagittarius rising > andI do not remember anybody calling him racist. > > > > [sunil]: I posted 7-8 charts with Sagi Lagna and can post more but I > wonder how many tested it & had the GUTS to say the truth. I expect too > much since it is so easy to quote slokas say Parasara said this but > honestly testing a technique ........ & understanding if the Sage ever > said to be truthful TO the SHASTRA of Astrology, anyways. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil John > > , "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > I will pass on your compliments to shri Chandrahari.It is only the > > blessings and company of learned men including you that makes me > > understand these otherwise, Nigoodha shastras. > > Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things > > but few are those, complimenting good things. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > , Chandrashekhar > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > A difficult concept beautifully explained. Pleas also give my > > > compliments to Chandra Hari. This is tantra at its best. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil and respected memebers > > > > > > > > We can stop our learning either at - '' Nirirti or Yama is the > > > > devata of Moola signifying destruction'' - or we can learn further > > > > and understand why it is so.If it interêsts you,kindly read on. > > > > > > > > I was fortunate to find one article by shri Chandrahari,from my > > > > folders.He is not having dhanu lagna -but Meena Lagna with > > > > Vargottama Shukra,Paramocha,forming Malavya in lagna. > > > > > > > > Explaining the Tantric logic behind Skandolpathi - > > > > He says Moola Nakshathra,the yoga-thara, the junction between > > > > Vrischika/Dhanu Rashi is Siva the Yoga-KalaMurthi.He is the > > > > Parateeka of Time,He is the Sarpa called Kundalini and He is > > > > Nagaraja. > > > > In the Meru-Dandha present in Man or Jeevashareera,there is an > > > > adhobindu or Linga-Yoni Bindhu.The concept of Siva or Maha Yogi- > > > > Yoginee Sankalpa,is based on the Kundalini sleeping as NagaRaja or > > > > Nagayakshi, over the above said Bindu. > > > > > > > > ''MeruDanda is a Parvata and Sun the PranaSwaroopa, makes daily > > > > Pradakshina around this MahaMeru.Similarly in > Brahmanda,AkashaGanga > > > > is passing along the Adhobindu of this Meru.Nirirti or Yama is the > > > > Devata of this AdhoBindu called Moola Nakshathra.Moola is the > place > > > > where Aakasha Ganga is cutting SooryaPadha or Ecliptic.Hence Siva > is > > > > called Gangadhara (One who wears Ganga) and the Abhisheka > jaladhara > > > > in Siva temples became Ganga.He says Dhanu is the Dhanuss of > Siva.'' > > > > Thus i feel there is no better DharamaRaja than Yamaraja and we > may > > > > understand why Dhanu is the sthana of Dharma. > > > > > > > > Moreover with help of SivaPurana he further says, 240 degrees is - > > > > Shri Moola Sthanam.It is Linga -Yoni- Kala Linga - Mrityusthana of > > > > Kalapurusha - Mahakala-Mahakali-Mooladhara -Kundalini-Aadi Guru- > > > > Parama Guru-MahaYogi-Mahadevan- > > > > Vaidyanathan-Dhanwanthari-Mrithyunjayan-MrithaSanjeevini > -Gangadhara > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > It is the junction of Mrityu-Mrityunjaya and it is Shmashana.Agni > is > > > > present there and Agni represents NavaValsara.It is the thrid eye > of > > > > Mahakala(destruction).Also SuryaChandragni Vilochana and Moola > > > > Samkrama Yugadi. > > > > > > > > Why is Saraswati devi worshipped on Moola nakshathra day during > > > > navarathri.Why is Guru the Sattwa Murthi having mooltrikona in > > > > Moola.What can a Guru destroy?Guru is the knower of Vedashasthras > > > > and the one who knows Supreme Truth.What > > > > will he destroy?Moola is Root.What is root?.What is Karma bandha > and > > > > attachment.What is the destruction happening here.What is being > > > > uprooted?What is the spiritual significance of this uprooting. > > > > > > > > I know it is a longish mail and had to translate Malayalam > > > > articles.But i hope this will help,if the point is driven home > -Not > > > > to take words like Nirirti and Destruction,in a lighter sense,as > > > > the philosophical angle underlying is so deep. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, "suniljohn_2002" > > > > <suniljohn_2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > Been thinking from some days since this discussion started. I > was > > > > also > > > > > hoping someone would write these things . This is my limited > view > > > > and > > > > > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this > in > > > > brief > > > > > if possible. Ramanarayanan is the best candidate for deeper > > > > insight, but > > > > > he is not a member of this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To understand Rasi (apart from symbol of it stated earlier) > > > > > another way is to see his Kalapurusha Sthana & role accorded to > it > > > > that > > > > > is of of 9H of Dharma etc etc > > > > > * It has 3 Naks Moola, P.Ash & U.Ash (1 charan) > > > > > * Moola nak has been my deep fascination since I feel its one > > > > of the > > > > > most important nak, haven't been able to study nak in depth but > > > > Moola > > > > > means the Root & the Galactic Center is here am told, making it > > > > most > > > > > most important is what am told > > > > > * Moola deity is Nirriti, the Goddess of Destruction - many > > > > shades > > > > > to this. > > > > > * P.Ash diety is Apas(waters) according to Frawley > > > > > * U.Ash diety is Universal Gods (Vishwa Deva) - > > > > > > > > > > Taking the 3 dieties into account can we infer the nature of > Sagi > > > > apart > > > > > from the basic Guru lordship etc etc - two things that stand out > is > > > > > Destruction (Nirriti) & Gods (Vishwadeva - religion dharma etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I might be going out of town to a village for few days so if > there > > > > is no > > > > > reply to any mails kindly understand . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Pradeep, U have good humor and I like it (court expenses) ) U wrote "> vice-versa. I am sorry I did not see it so far, maybe in future if i see it I would personally write to u on list if i am on lists. For me it is very simple approach which I adopt these days which I did with a) Mahapurusha Yogas -20 charts posted all failing all criterias b) Sagi Rasi & lagna - 10-12 charts posted For me I didn't see any statistical testing, so I have nothing more to say. I wrote about it 2 days back and there was no response by people concerned in the thread since its obvious it doesn't stand the test of time, nor did the Ego & Lessons of Life rules on Vivekananda. I am least worried about my popularity ratings on any list though I confess to be a Pat my back I pat urs personality in my earlier Avataar for 2-3 yrs on lists, all that served me no purpose nor did I practice Honest Astrology. Lets not take this chit chat further by tom I should be out of these lists, Mars has crossed Ketu so for me time to Get a Life. Regards, Sunil John , "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Sunil > > To be honest,i do not praise anyone -like as in ''i praise u, you > praise me '' etc.If its worth praising ,praise it and > vice-versa.Knowing Chandrashekhar ji, other members can decide for > themselves.If something or someone that i have praised is not having > substance -kindly raise your objections with logic and we can discuus > and decide if a lower rating has to be done or not.In the other case > you have to bear my court expenses:-)) > > Pradeep > > , "suniljohn_2002" > suniljohn_2002@ wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I have read this piece long back & hence I had said someone should post > > easier to understand deeper meaning on Nirriti, > > > > > > > > I had written. > > > > This is my limited view> > > and> > > > would appreciate someone to post > > some deeper knowledge on this in > > > > > brief > > > > > > if possible. every indian knows the meaning of Shiva & his being > > called the destroyer also means destroying the evil within. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since your post was too long and I recognised having read similar stuff > > I didn't read ur mail as I can't waste 4-5 hours on list in a day and > > hence only read brief mails though I myself write long mails > > > > I JUST LOVE what u wrote > > > > > Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things> > > but few are those, complimenting good things. > > > > > > > > Incidentally my observation is, very few are capable of doing honest > > astrology & the philosophy of I scratch ur back u scratch mine is so > > prelavant , I will praise u and u praise me & it is not possible for us > > to defend the truth or dig deeper into truth and go public in our views > > even if it means going against our Gurus views or those we support. I > > indulged in same for yrs on the VA list and realised I was not doing > > honest astrology, respecting the science for its sacredness. > > > > > > > > See What was written in other post > > > > I do not find any reference of it(Sagi) being sign of racist and do not > > knowwhere from your senior astrologer friend got that reference. will > > youplease ask him for a quote? Swami Vivekananda was Sagittarius rising > > andI do not remember anybody calling him racist. > > > > > > > > [sunil]: I posted 7-8 charts with Sagi Lagna and can post more but I > > wonder how many tested it & had the GUTS to say the truth. I expect too > > much since it is so easy to quote slokas say Parasara said this but > > honestly testing a technique ........ & understanding if the Sage ever > > said to be truthful TO the SHASTRA of Astrology, anyways. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > I will pass on your compliments to shri Chandrahari.It is only the > > > blessings and company of learned men including you that makes me > > > understand these otherwise, Nigoodha shastras. > > > Also my observation has been,there are many who criticize bad things > > > but few are those, complimenting good things. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > A difficult concept beautifully explained. Pleas also give my > > > > compliments to Chandra Hari. This is tantra at its best. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil and respected memebers > > > > > > > > > > We can stop our learning either at - '' Nirirti or Yama is the > > > > > devata of Moola signifying destruction'' - or we can learn further > > > > > and understand why it is so.If it interêsts you,kindly read on. > > > > > > > > > > I was fortunate to find one article by shri Chandrahari,from my > > > > > folders.He is not having dhanu lagna -but Meena Lagna with > > > > > Vargottama Shukra,Paramocha,forming Malavya in lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Explaining the Tantric logic behind Skandolpathi - > > > > > He says Moola Nakshathra,the yoga-thara, the junction between > > > > > Vrischika/Dhanu Rashi is Siva the Yoga-KalaMurthi.He is the > > > > > Parateeka of Time,He is the Sarpa called Kundalini and He is > > > > > Nagaraja. > > > > > In the Meru-Dandha present in Man or Jeevashareera,there is an > > > > > adhobindu or Linga-Yoni Bindhu.The concept of Siva or Maha Yogi- > > > > > Yoginee Sankalpa,is based on the Kundalini sleeping as NagaRaja or > > > > > Nagayakshi, over the above said Bindu. > > > > > > > > > > ''MeruDanda is a Parvata and Sun the PranaSwaroopa, makes daily > > > > > Pradakshina around this MahaMeru.Similarly in > > Brahmanda,AkashaGanga > > > > > is passing along the Adhobindu of this Meru.Nirirti or Yama is the > > > > > Devata of this AdhoBindu called Moola Nakshathra.Moola is the > > place > > > > > where Aakasha Ganga is cutting SooryaPadha or Ecliptic.Hence Siva > > is > > > > > called Gangadhara (One who wears Ganga) and the Abhisheka > > jaladhara > > > > > in Siva temples became Ganga.He says Dhanu is the Dhanuss of > > Siva.'' > > > > > Thus i feel there is no better DharamaRaja than Yamaraja and we > > may > > > > > understand why Dhanu is the sthana of Dharma. > > > > > > > > > > Moreover with help of SivaPurana he further says, 240 degrees is - > > > > > Shri Moola Sthanam.It is Linga -Yoni- Kala Linga - Mrityusthana of > > > > > Kalapurusha - Mahakala-Mahakali-Mooladhara -Kundalini-Aadi Guru- > > > > > Parama Guru-MahaYogi-Mahadevan- > > > > > Vaidyanathan-Dhanwanthari-Mrithyunjayan-MrithaSanjeevini > > -Gangadhara > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > It is the junction of Mrityu-Mrityunjaya and it is Shmashana.Agni > > is > > > > > present there and Agni represents NavaValsara.It is the thrid eye > > of > > > > > Mahakala(destruction).Also SuryaChandragni Vilochana and Moola > > > > > Samkrama Yugadi. > > > > > > > > > > Why is Saraswati devi worshipped on Moola nakshathra day during > > > > > navarathri.Why is Guru the Sattwa Murthi having mooltrikona in > > > > > Moola.What can a Guru destroy?Guru is the knower of Vedashasthras > > > > > and the one who knows Supreme Truth.What > > > > > will he destroy?Moola is Root.What is root?.What is Karma bandha > > and > > > > > attachment.What is the destruction happening here.What is being > > > > > uprooted?What is the spiritual significance of this uprooting. > > > > > > > > > > I know it is a longish mail and had to translate Malayalam > > > > > articles.But i hope this will help,if the point is driven home > > -Not > > > > > to take words like Nirirti and Destruction,in a lighter sense,as > > > > > the philosophical angle underlying is so deep. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, "suniljohn_2002" > > > > > <suniljohn_2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > > > Been thinking from some days since this discussion started. I > > was > > > > > also > > > > > > hoping someone would write these things . This is my limited > > view > > > > > and > > > > > > would appreciate someone to post some deeper knowledge on this > > in > > > > > brief > > > > > > if possible. Ramanarayanan is the best candidate for deeper > > > > > insight, but > > > > > > he is not a member of this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * To understand Rasi (apart from symbol of it stated earlier) > > > > > > another way is to see his Kalapurusha Sthana & role accorded to > > it > > > > > that > > > > > > is of of 9H of Dharma etc etc > > > > > > * It has 3 Naks Moola, P.Ash & U.Ash (1 charan) > > > > > > * Moola nak has been my deep fascination since I feel its one > > > > > of the > > > > > > most important nak, haven't been able to study nak in depth but > > > > > Moola > > > > > > means the Root & the Galactic Center is here am told, making it > > > > > most > > > > > > most important is what am told > > > > > > * Moola deity is Nirriti, the Goddess of Destruction - many > > > > > shades > > > > > > to this. > > > > > > * P.Ash diety is Apas(waters) according to Frawley > > > > > > * U.Ash diety is Universal Gods (Vishwa Deva) - > > > > > > > > > > > > Taking the 3 dieties into account can we infer the nature of > > Sagi > > > > > apart > > > > > > from the basic Guru lordship etc etc - two things that stand out > > is > > > > > > Destruction (Nirriti) & Gods (Vishwadeva - religion dharma etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I might be going out of town to a village for few days so if > > there > > > > > is no > > > > > > reply to any mails kindly understand . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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