Involuntary, Voluntary Decisions on Abortions..

[Guest guest]

On Namh Shivaya!

 

Respected Gurujans and learned members,

 

Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child create any

karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?. I can

understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What about

involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side of

aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

 

For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2 of them

did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if these 2

kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured to next

2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents for this

happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the womb of

such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this would be

a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

 

Can you please share your thoughts on this?

 

With Regards

/-Akash..

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Baksh:

 

Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons) will not

constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result of

evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in this

birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had been

caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to accidents

where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden days

pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care so

that both the mother and the child are safe.

 

Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may lead to

childlessness in future births.

 

Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but, there is

one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even teasing a

child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra dosha if

the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating young

children with great affection and care may even reduce the putra

dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births to a

great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive healthy

babies within years after adopting another child. Their affection

and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the past!

 

Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by spontaneous

or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul! Even

after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might be

some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard life

in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas are

there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact, such

souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or even

null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting aborted!).

 

Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to the

next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the same

fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e. the soul

may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals that

find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha conceive

such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa is a

perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota less than

what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we may

not always feel like that!

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005

wrote:

>

> On Namh Shivaya!

>

> Respected Gurujans and learned members,

>

> Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child create

any

> karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?. I

can

> understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What about

> involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side of

> aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

>

> For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2 of

them

> did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

these 2

> kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured to

next

> 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents for

this

> happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

womb of

> such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this would

be

> a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

>

> Can you please share your thoughts on this?

>

> With Regards

> /-Akash..

>

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Akash,

 

Namaste.

 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 04:13:23 +0200, baksh5 <avbhat2005 > wrote:

 

> On Namh Shivaya!

>

> Respected Gurujans and learned members,

>

> Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child create any

> karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?. I can

> understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What about

> involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side of

> aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

 

An intentional abortion of a child has equal karmic reaction to killing

your child after he was born. An unintentional abortion is called a

miscarriage, and it does not have direct karmic reactions to the parent,

unless there are factors they could have influenced. For example the

miscarriage rate is higher for the mothers who are smoking, drinking

alcohol or taking drugs, as well as if she has taken contraceptives for a

long time. So if you can do something about it then its your

responsibility and definitely there should be some reaction.

 

> For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2 of them

> did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if these 2

> kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured to next

> 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents for this

> happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the womb of

> such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this would be

> a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

 

In either case (miscarriage indicated by the aspect of the nodes or

abortion indicated by the aspect of Mars) it is the karma of the foetus to

die before they see the light of the day. But the karma the parents share

is different based on the level of their intervention.

 

It is also the same sinful reaction of killing if the mother gives birth

to the child but abandons him/her at once, since the small baby cannot

survive without the protection and nourishment of the mother. It is sad

but sometimes it happens that the irresponsible mothers throw their babies

into the dustbin.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das

 

--

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

& Ayurvedic Consultant

Tel: +36309140839

www.brihaspati.net

www.atmacenter.hu

Skype: gauranga_das

 

 

> Can you please share your thoughts on this?

>

> With Regards

> /-Akash..

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namh Shivaya!

 

Dear and Respected Dakshinamoorthiji,

 

Thanks again for letting me/us know another gem of a response from

your learned repository.

 

But if a woman desires (voluntary) an abortion, then will that karma

(Dush) also impact the father of the child? even though he is not

party to such a decision? or is it restricted only to the mother?

 

With Regards

/-Akash..

 

vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri. Baksh:

>

> Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons) will

not

> constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result of

> evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in this

> birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had been

> caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to

accidents

> where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

> somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden days

> pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care so

> that both the mother and the child are safe.

>

> Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may lead to

> childlessness in future births.

>

> Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but, there is

> one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even teasing a

> child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra dosha

if

> the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating

young

> children with great affection and care may even reduce the putra

> dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births to a

> great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive

healthy

> babies within years after adopting another child. Their affection

> and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the

past!

>

> Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by spontaneous

> or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul! Even

> after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might be

> some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard life

> in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas are

> there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact, such

> souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or

even

> null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting aborted!).

>

> Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to the

> next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

> doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

> voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the same

> fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e. the

soul

> may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals that

> find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha

conceive

> such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa is

a

> perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota less

than

> what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we may

> not always feel like that!

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005@>

> wrote:

> >

> > On Namh Shivaya!

> >

> > Respected Gurujans and learned members,

> >

> > Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child

create

> any

> > karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?. I

> can

> > understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What about

> > involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side of

> > aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

> >

> > For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2 of

> them

> > did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

> these 2

> > kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured

to

> next

> > 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents for

> this

> > happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

> womb of

> > such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this

would

> be

> > a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

> >

> > Can you please share your thoughts on this?

> >

> > With Regards

> > /-Akash..

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Baksh5:

 

The Dush karma is restricted ONLY to the person who decided about

the voluntary abortion provided if the other party has tried to

convince the person who desires the abortion about not having it.

 

Karma is very just. It never touches the innocent and the helpless.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005

wrote:

>

> Om Namh Shivaya!

>

> Dear and Respected Dakshinamoorthiji,

>

> Thanks again for letting me/us know another gem of a response from

> your learned repository.

>

> But if a woman desires (voluntary) an abortion, then will that

karma

> (Dush) also impact the father of the child? even though he is not

> party to such a decision? or is it restricted only to the mother?

>

> With Regards

> /-Akash..

>

> vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Baksh:

> >

> > Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons) will

> not

> > constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result of

> > evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in this

> > birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had been

> > caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to

> accidents

> > where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

> > somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden days

> > pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care

so

> > that both the mother and the child are safe.

> >

> > Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may lead

to

> > childlessness in future births.

> >

> > Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but, there

is

> > one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even teasing

a

> > child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra dosha

> if

> > the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating

> young

> > children with great affection and care may even reduce the putra

> > dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births to

a

> > great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive

> healthy

> > babies within years after adopting another child. Their

affection

> > and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the

> past!

> >

> > Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by

spontaneous

> > or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul! Even

> > after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might

be

> > some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard

life

> > in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas are

> > there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact, such

> > souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or

> even

> > null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting

aborted!).

> >

> > Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to

the

> > next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

> > doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

> > voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the

same

> > fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e. the

> soul

> > may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals

that

> > find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha

> conceive

> > such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa

is

> a

> > perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota less

> than

> > what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we

may

> > not always feel like that!

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > On Namh Shivaya!

> > >

> > > Respected Gurujans and learned members,

> > >

> > > Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child

> create

> > any

> > > karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?.

I

> > can

> > > understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What

about

> > > involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side

of

> > > aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

> > >

> > > For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2

of

> > them

> > > did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

> > these 2

> > > kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured

> to

> > next

> > > 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents

for

> > this

> > > happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

> > womb of

> > > such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this

> would

> > be

> > > a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

> > >

> > > Can you please share your thoughts on this?

> > >

> > > With Regards

> > > /-Akash..

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji,

Grateful for your explanation of Manglik dosha cancellation.Sir

please address me as Bindiya only,I am a mere student.May I venture

to ask another question on the topic of abortions.In today's times

many parents are involved in these kind of bad karma.But the mothers

often keep wanting to do 'something' for these children they lost

voluntarily or involuntarily,sometimes even as infants due to some

arishtas.What can be done for these children so they donot become

spirits and their living siblings are unaffected?Is it possible that

the same soul tries to come back repeatedly to the same set of

parents?Is there any prayaschitta karma for the voluntary decisions?

I have read that such abortions are equivalent to Brahmana

hatya.Please enlighten on these doubts.Highly obliged,

 

sincerely,

 

bindiya.

 

'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu

oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah'

vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri. Baksh:

>

> Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons) will

not

> constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result of

> evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in this

> birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had been

> caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to

accidents

> where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

> somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden days

> pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care so

> that both the mother and the child are safe.

>

> Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may lead to

> childlessness in future births.

>

> Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but, there is

> one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even teasing a

> child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra dosha

if

> the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating

young

> children with great affection and care may even reduce the putra

> dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births to a

> great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive

healthy

> babies within years after adopting another child. Their affection

> and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the

past!

>

> Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by spontaneous

> or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul! Even

> after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might be

> some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard life

> in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas are

> there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact, such

> souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or

even

> null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting aborted!).

>

> Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to the

> next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

> doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

> voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the same

> fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e. the

soul

> may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals that

> find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha

conceive

> such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa is

a

> perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota less

than

> what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we may

> not always feel like that!

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005@>

> wrote:

> >

> > On Namh Shivaya!

> >

> > Respected Gurujans and learned members,

> >

> > Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child

create

> any

> > karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?. I

> can

> > understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What about

> > involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side of

> > aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

> >

> > For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2 of

> them

> > did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

> these 2

> > kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured

to

> next

> > 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents for

> this

> > happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

> womb of

> > such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this

would

> be

> > a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

> >

> > Can you please share your thoughts on this?

> >

> > With Regards

> > /-Akash..

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Student Bindya:

 

voluntary decision to abort a fetus gives rise to a great dosha

called "shishu hatya". The remedy for this is the same as that for

Brahma Hatya. Tapasya is the best means to overcome the karma. For

peace of mind, if the perperent has realized that what they have

done at a later stage, they can donate a portion of their salary for

the upkeep of orphan children. As you say, it is possible that the

same fetus may later take birth from the same mother though it is

not always the case.....strange are the ways of creation.

 

Blessed be

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology, "bindiya"

<bindiyaanurudguptha wrote:

>

> Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji,

> Grateful for your explanation of Manglik dosha cancellation.Sir

> please address me as Bindiya only,I am a mere student.May I

venture

> to ask another question on the topic of abortions.In today's times

> many parents are involved in these kind of bad karma.But the

mothers

> often keep wanting to do 'something' for these children they lost

> voluntarily or involuntarily,sometimes even as infants due to some

> arishtas.What can be done for these children so they donot become

> spirits and their living siblings are unaffected?Is it possible

that

> the same soul tries to come back repeatedly to the same set of

> parents?Is there any prayaschitta karma for the voluntary

decisions?

> I have read that such abortions are equivalent to Brahmana

> hatya.Please enlighten on these doubts.Highly obliged,

>

> sincerely,

>

> bindiya.

>

> 'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu

> oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah'

> vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Baksh:

> >

> > Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons) will

> not

> > constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result of

> > evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in this

> > birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had been

> > caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to

> accidents

> > where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

> > somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden days

> > pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care

so

> > that both the mother and the child are safe.

> >

> > Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may lead

to

> > childlessness in future births.

> >

> > Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but, there

is

> > one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even teasing

a

> > child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra dosha

> if

> > the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating

> young

> > children with great affection and care may even reduce the putra

> > dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births to

a

> > great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive

> healthy

> > babies within years after adopting another child. Their

affection

> > and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the

> past!

> >

> > Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by

spontaneous

> > or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul! Even

> > after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might

be

> > some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard

life

> > in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas are

> > there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact, such

> > souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or

> even

> > null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting

aborted!).

> >

> > Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to

the

> > next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

> > doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

> > voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the

same

> > fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e. the

> soul

> > may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals

that

> > find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha

> conceive

> > such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa

is

> a

> > perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota less

> than

> > what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we

may

> > not always feel like that!

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > On Namh Shivaya!

> > >

> > > Respected Gurujans and learned members,

> > >

> > > Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child

> create

> > any

> > > karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?.

I

> > can

> > > understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What

about

> > > involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side

of

> > > aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

> > >

> > > For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2

of

> > them

> > > did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

> > these 2

> > > kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured

> to

> > next

> > > 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents

for

> > this

> > > happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

> > womb of

> > > such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this

> would

> > be

> > > a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

> > >

> > > Can you please share your thoughts on this?

> > >

> > > With Regards

> > > /-Akash..

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rubbish

 

-

dakshinastrologer

vedic astrology

Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:03 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary Decisions on Abortions..

 

 

Dear Student Bindya:

 

voluntary decision to abort a fetus gives rise to a great dosha

called "shishu hatya". The remedy for this is the same as that for

Brahma Hatya. Tapasya is the best means to overcome the karma. For

peace of mind, if the perperent has realized that what they have

done at a later stage, they can donate a portion of their salary for

the upkeep of orphan children. As you say, it is possible that the

same fetus may later take birth from the same mother though it is

not always the case.....strange are the ways of creation.

 

Blessed be

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology, "bindiya"

<bindiyaanurudguptha wrote:

>

> Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji,

> Grateful for your explanation of Manglik dosha cancellation.Sir

> please address me as Bindiya only,I am a mere student.May I

venture

> to ask another question on the topic of abortions.In today's times

> many parents are involved in these kind of bad karma.But the

mothers

> often keep wanting to do 'something' for these children they lost

> voluntarily or involuntarily,sometimes even as infants due to some

> arishtas.What can be done for these children so they donot become

> spirits and their living siblings are unaffected?Is it possible

that

> the same soul tries to come back repeatedly to the same set of

> parents?Is there any prayaschitta karma for the voluntary

decisions?

> I have read that such abortions are equivalent to Brahmana

> hatya.Please enlighten on these doubts.Highly obliged,

>

> sincerely,

>

> bindiya.

>

> 'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu

> oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah'

> vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Baksh:

> >

> > Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons) will

> not

> > constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result of

> > evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in this

> > birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had been

> > caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to

> accidents

> > where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

> > somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden days

> > pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care

so

> > that both the mother and the child are safe.

> >

> > Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may lead

to

> > childlessness in future births.

> >

> > Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but, there

is

> > one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even teasing

a

> > child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra dosha

> if

> > the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating

> young

> > children with great affection and care may even reduce the putra

> > dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births to

a

> > great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive

> healthy

> > babies within years after adopting another child. Their

affection

> > and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the

> past!

> >

> > Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by

spontaneous

> > or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul! Even

> > after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might

be

> > some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard

life

> > in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas are

> > there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact, such

> > souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or

> even

> > null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting

aborted!).

> >

> > Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to

the

> > next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

> > doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

> > voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the

same

> > fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e. the

> soul

> > may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals

that

> > find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha

> conceive

> > such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa

is

> a

> > perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota less

> than

> > what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we

may

> > not always feel like that!

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > On Namh Shivaya!

> > >

> > > Respected Gurujans and learned members,

> > >

> > > Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child

> create

> > any

> > > karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?.

I

> > can

> > > understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What

about

> > > involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side

of

> > > aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

> > >

> > > For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2

of

> > them

> > > did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

> > these 2

> > > kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured

> to

> > next

> > > 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents

for

> > this

> > > happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

> > womb of

> > > such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this

> would

> > be

> > > a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

> > >

> > > Can you please share your thoughts on this?

> > >

> > > With Regards

> > > /-Akash..

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji,

Very grateful sir,you have enlightened all learners on this

topic.Also for the remedial measures.Sir, you mentioned about such

children becoming spirits due to such voluntary decisions,what can

be done for such souls to ensure they get peace?Is it correct to do

functions like Shraadh or is a self taken Sankalp like feeding

orphan children on a particular day right?I hope I have put in

proper words what I mean to ask.

Can such souls cause any obstacles or harm to the living siblings?

An aquaintance once told me how an astrologer in Kerala told him

about the siblings who had died in infancy and how their spirits are

still 'attached' to him.Is this possible?He was even given remedial

measures to do on Amavasya days in Lord Shiva's temple.I am sorry

but I have forgotten about the particular vazhipaadu name mentioned

in this case,hence my question.

Thanking you for your patience and understanding,

 

Sincerely,

 

bindiya.

 

'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu

oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah'

 

vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Student Bindya:

>

> voluntary decision to abort a fetus gives rise to a great dosha

> called "shishu hatya". The remedy for this is the same as that

for

> Brahma Hatya. Tapasya is the best means to overcome the karma.

For

> peace of mind, if the perperent has realized that what they have

> done at a later stage, they can donate a portion of their salary

for

> the upkeep of orphan children. As you say, it is possible that

the

> same fetus may later take birth from the same mother though it is

> not always the case.....strange are the ways of creation.

>

> Blessed be

> Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> vedic astrology, "bindiya"

> <bindiyaanurudguptha@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji,

> > Grateful for your explanation of Manglik dosha cancellation.Sir

> > please address me as Bindiya only,I am a mere student.May I

> venture

> > to ask another question on the topic of abortions.In today's

times

> > many parents are involved in these kind of bad karma.But the

> mothers

> > often keep wanting to do 'something' for these children they

lost

> > voluntarily or involuntarily,sometimes even as infants due to

some

> > arishtas.What can be done for these children so they donot

become

> > spirits and their living siblings are unaffected?Is it possible

> that

> > the same soul tries to come back repeatedly to the same set of

> > parents?Is there any prayaschitta karma for the voluntary

> decisions?

> > I have read that such abortions are equivalent to Brahmana

> > hatya.Please enlighten on these doubts.Highly obliged,

> >

> > sincerely,

> >

> > bindiya.

> >

> > 'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu

> > oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah'

> > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Baksh:

> > >

> > > Involuntary abortions (spontaneous due to medical reasons)

will

> > not

> > > constitute any fresh dushkarmaas; rather, they are the result

of

> > > evil karmas of the past which have led to the putradosha in

this

> > > birth. Even in involuntary abortions, if the abortion had

been

> > > caused due to negligence of the carrying mother, or due to

> > accidents

> > > where there has been an element of negligence on the part of

> > > somebody, the dushkarma will arise. That is why, in olden

days

> > > pregnant women were always treated with great concern and care

> so

> > > that both the mother and the child are safe.

> > >

> > > Voluntary abortions do definitely cause dushkarma. It may

lead

> to

> > > childlessness in future births.

> > >

> > > Putra dosha can arise due to many variety of curses; but,

there

> is

> > > one minor thing that most people do not realize.....even

teasing

> a

> > > child less than 5 years severely for fun may lead to putra

dosha

> > if

> > > the child concerned gets upset too much. Conversely, treating

> > young

> > > children with great affection and care may even reduce the

putra

> > > dosha effects arising from dush karmas of the previous births

to

> a

> > > great extent. This is the reason why some couples conceive

> > healthy

> > > babies within years after adopting another child. Their

> affection

> > > and care to the adopted child removes their evil karmas of the

> > past!

> > >

> > > Regarding the foetus in the womb that meets its end by

> spontaneous

> > > or voluntary abortions.......it is the fate of that soul!

Even

> > > after receiving punishment in hell for major sins, there might

> be

> > > some minor sins which do not warrant heavy punishment or hard

> life

> > > in earth which have not been settled......when such karmaas

are

> > > there, souls take birth as ill-conceived foetus....infact,

such

> > > souls take a few births like that with negligible longevity or

> > even

> > > null longevity (only taking form in the womb and getting

> aborted!).

> > >

> > > Children who are victims of voluntary abortion may proceed to

> the

> > > next birth or go to other planes of existence without any evil

> > > doshas affecting them. But, foetus that has been aborted

> > > voluntarily by its parents due to any reason, may suffer the

> same

> > > fate as victims of murders and other gruesome deaths - i.e.

the

> > soul

> > > may be troubled and may take the form of ghosts or elementals

> that

> > > find no peace! In effect, parents with severe putra dosha

> > conceive

> > > such souls so that the karmaas of both get evened out. Karmaa

> is

> > a

> > > perfect system where no one gets even an iota more or iota

less

> > than

> > > what they deserve! Karmaa is unbiased and very just though we

> may

> > > not always feel like that!

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > On Namh Shivaya!

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gurujans and learned members,

> > > >

> > > > Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child

> > create

> > > any

> > > > karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child

itself?.

> I

> > > can

> > > > understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What

> about

> > > > involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's

side

> of

> > > > aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

> > > >

> > > > For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but

2

> of

> > > them

> > > > did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And

if

> > > these 2

> > > > kids were not aborted then this person would not have

ventured

> > to

> > > next

> > > > 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents

> for

> > > this

> > > > happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into

the

> > > womb of

> > > > such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this

> > would

> > > be

> > > > a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

> > > >

> > > > Can you please share your thoughts on this?

> > > >

> > > > With Regards

> > > > /-Akash..

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Involuntary as you put it is also called Miscarriage, I think is

part of prarabdha karma that the parents have to go through.

But when you go and have a Abortion with your free will, as our

gurus would explain there would be some papa gained

 

 

vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005

wrote:

>

> On Namh Shivaya!

>

> Respected Gurujans and learned members,

>

> Does voluntary or Involuntary abortions of the unborn child create

any

> karmas ( Dushkarmas ) on the parents or on the child itself?. I

can

> understand to an extent if its a voluntary decision. What about

> involuntary? since there was no decision on the parent's side of

> aborting it? But parents do lose their child.

>

> For exg if a person has a possibility of getting 4 kids but 2 of

them

> did not see the world due to abortions ( involuntary ). And if

these 2

> kids were not aborted then this person would not have ventured to

next

> 2 kids. So is this is the karma of the child and the parents for

this

> happening? if so why would such a child desire to get into the

womb of

> such parents where it is destined to be aborted!? since this would

be

> a loss-loss situation for both the child and the parents?

>

> Can you please share your thoughts on this?

>

> With Regards

> /-Akash..

>