Lord Krishna /Ramanarayanan ji - Sohamsa Reply

August 22, 2006

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Jyotisha,

Namaste.

Excellent mails, and very thought-provoking. Let me sum up my conclusions:

Mercury is Karaka for intelligence, Mars is karaka for logic, and Jupiter

for wisdom. One shorth thought added: for moksha, the native should be

sincere and give up attachments/desires. Thereofre the occupancy of the

4th and 7th houses is very important. It is favourable if the 4th house

has only natural benefics and the Sun, and it is favourable if the 7th

house is ocuppied or aspected by planets causing pravrajya, ilke Saturn

and Ketu. Any strong planets in the 7th house may be the causes of

rebirth, because they indicate strong material desires.û

Yours,

Gauranga Das

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:43:03 +0200, vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

> Dear Ramanarayanan ji

> It was great reading your mail in Sohamsa group.Could you kindly help

> me more in understanding your mail fully.I feel Budha is the Karaka

> for memory for the following reasons.Kindly correct and guide me.Visti

> ji kindly read my views as well.

>

> 1)Prithvi tattwa is more towards memory and shareera as compared to

> Akasha tattwa,represented by Guru.Janana represented by Guru is not

> just that of memory,though it can encompass the realms of memory.The

> difference is like an intelligent student and a wise person.Any wise

> man can understand any intelligent person.But all intelligent persons

> may not understand, a wise statement.

>

> 2)Budha is intelligence of retention and imitation as you have rightly

> mentioned.This is the INITIAL learning quality needed in any student.

>

> Though Rahu/Kethu does not have, own houses/exaltation etc,there are

> rashis, where they feel exalted ,swastha etc as per some acharyas and

> thus can be used in Phalitha jyotisha.Moreover classics say Rahu/Kethu

> takes on the quality of the rashi they occuppy apart from being

> Manda/Kuja.

>

> For examle One among the qualities of Mithuna rashi is ''

> Hasyongithajna'' -Meaning - Ability in teasing and knowing the Ingitha

> or intention of others.Rahu should thus naturally feel exalted in

> Mithuna.

> Similarly Kanni Rashi, where Budha is getting exalted is having nature

> as ''Paragriha vaasi,Priya Bhaashi''

>

> Thus Budha likes to live in the houses of others and he is intersted

> in imitating others,speaking to the likes of others.He is quick and

> deceptive.He takes on the quality of those with whom he associates.May

> be for this reason, you said,Budha is chaaya of Rahu?.Moreover there

> is an element of materiliastic learning and existence common to them.

>

> 3)Mars is ''Kroora Drik'' but Udaara/Daana sheela.Also through Mantra

> sidhi he bestows auspisciousness.Feet has to be studied through

> Rahu/Meena as per some acharyas.Meena is Moksha/feet and Rahu is the

> force which keeps us on earth or prithvi.Bhagavan created this

> Universe(through his kalpana) for experiencing/learning and

> returning.This dynamic process is the very activity that sustains the

> Universe.When his Kalpana is nil,everything shrinks back.Thus Rahu is

> having a very important role in the above said learnign process.Before

> the dasha of Brihaspathi dawns, Rahu does his job.We should never

> undermine Rahu.Krishna as you have said has the colour of Rahu and the

> deceptive nature.

>

> So Mars i think,through his Agni,burns prithvi or material

> experiences.Hope i have understood correct.Also Shukra is SHUKLA,which

> is again Agni,the beeja.I feel thus you have used Chaaya relating Kuja

> and Shukra.Kindly elaborate,when time permits.

>

> 4)For Moksha, mercury has to be debilitated.What does this mean.Can i

> say,stop learning and imitating.Turn inward and see the light.No

> wonder mercury feels debilitated in Moksha Kshethra of Guru and Shukra

> floats with sublime happiness.Whenever Budha is maudhya(combust),there

> will be suppression of certain karaktwas related to learning.When

> Budha is coming closer and closer to Soorya,i feel this moudhya is a

> blessing in disguise.Individual learning is blurred by Soorya and

> budha just bends his head and absorbs/reflects true LIGHT and becomes

> Jnana Swaroopa.I can see this in the case of Lakshmi Ramesh ji.

>

> I can only keep my hands folded in respect,in front of your intutive

> wisdom,Ramanarayanan ji.It triggered even my ordinary

> intelligence.Kindly guide/illumine,leading me further towards HIM.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Ramanarayanan, Namaskar

> Budhastami is for all astrologers, not just those with ill placed

> planets in their kala-chakra. It strengthens Guru, but no doubt if

> Rahu is placed in Ishana-kona in the Kala Chakra started from Chandra

> in Ishana-kona, then it would be most advisable to propitiate Rahu or

> perform the Budhastami Vrata, to remove the grahana of Rahu on the

> diva of Ishana.

> I think any form of Tamas causes the memory to disapear, but since

> ruchaka mahapurusha yoga can give knowledge of Jyotish, i do put

> Mangal on a higher pedistal than the other tamasic grahas. Essentially

> when Mars becomes Aghora he bestows great knowledge of Jyotish and

> mantra/tantra-vidya on the person. This happens in Guru-Mangala Yogas

> (when associated with lagna) and in Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yogas. This is

> Agni put to good use, and for that i can not equate him with memory-loss.

> However, Shani is the real culprit, among the tamasic-grahas, that

> makes us forget life after life. He causes our rebirth through his

> uccha-rasi - Thula, and in his svakshetra he causes the complete loss

> and debility of memory for Jnanakaraka Guru. His seperation-causing

> vayu tattva bestows the greatest ignorrance of all, namely the

> understanding that we are different from one each other, and that we

> have a mind of our own. He is the first causator of ahamkara, and this

> is more carefully seen through the tara (nakshatra) of the moon...

> hence taras/nakshatras are ruled by Vayu tattva among the panchanga.

> This 'Tara' which the Moon (Chandra) has kidnapped is the source of

> our greatest concern in horoscopes. For it was due to Chandra that our

> dhi left the Guru (Brhaspati) and came under the control of the

> individual or Manas (Chandra). It was the day when the kidnapping

> started which was Krishna Chaturdasi, and the Guru himself becomes

> very angry and requires the propitiation of Shiva to overcome. But,

> worst was not the kidnapping itself but the result namely the

> conception of a child which took placed during the day after, namely

> Amavasya. It was on this day that WE were created as the bastard

> children of Chandra. The child was named Budha. This eclipse or

> Grahana of our dhi which led to our births and rebirths, happened on

> the tithi of Rahu, and on each such tithis we try to overcome this

> ignorrance which has repeatedly caused Chandra to kidnap our Tara, and

> instead try to bring Tara back to Brhaspati.

> One such Tithi is Astami, and the best day is that of Budha himself,

> hence budha-astami is the day when we will overcome this eclipse.

> The road back to Brhaspati is the road back to the Guru in our lives,

> and this is the reason we perform the Budhastami Vrata. Let Tara go

> back to Brhaspati.

> phew!... hope this is of use.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

> [] On Behalf Of rama narayanan

> 19 August 2006 17:09

>

> RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lord Krishna!

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Namaste. Thank you for the response and for the note of correction.

> May i request you to kindly explain as to when do you perform

> Buda-astami-vratha when you find Rahu in Isaana or when you find Buda

> in Nirruti. May i write a few more lines in this regard?

>

> As per Bhagavad-Gita, it is the Lord who is responsible, nay,

> causative factor for remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness.

> -------Chapter 15 - 15.

>

> In South India(Chennai) remedial measures are performed during Rahu

> Kaalam. Temples are kept opened. Nadis do prescribe such remedies.

>

> There is no harm in worshipping the Lord during Rahu kalam. The power

> of the graha is such that jivas are easily weakened. It is the abuse

> of the kala which is noticed and Mahakala acts swiftly. You know the

> background story of Hiranyaksha and Hiranakashipu.

>

> Maya appears to obscure the Lord. In reality it is not so. It is as

> per the sankalpa of the Lord.

>

> Both Guru and Buda are considered digbali in Lagna. Guru is given the

> responsibility of knowledge, Buda the parrot is given the duty of

> retention and recitation(verbatim - Sukadeva) and the mixture of Sun,

> Mars & Lagna are given the duty of brightening the ahankara so as to

> cause forgetfulness. Brighter the ahankara greater is the invisibility

> of the Lord.

>

> Now the question comes as to how to dim the light & lessen the heat of

> ahankara, if putting off appears to be difficult. "OM HUIM RAM

> CHAITANYAYA NAMAH" - Both the physical and the inner lamp needs to be

> lit to dim the light coming forth from ahankara. In reality the light

> that is coming from ahankara is ignorance!!!!

>

> Once the lamp is lit the Vani of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is heard -

> "CHANT HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA

> RAMA RAMA HARE HARE".

>

> The first effect of this, is the recognition of Kala. Buda-astami is

> identified. A deep interest for transformation takes place. Vratha

> the resolution of anger(Mars) takes place. The smile of the Lord is

> recognised.

>

> For mapping the nava-vidha bhakthi,the vara chakra ,the gift of

> Maharishi, naturally fits.

>

> Taking into consideration the most benefic aspect of Guru, He is the

> natural choice to put on the Vesha of the Lord(in absolute sense).

> This being the case he is the natural lord for

> memory/remembrance/knowledge and forgetfulness too!!!

>

> Dig chakra and kala chakra is too deep indeed. The mysteries of marana

> karaka sthana lies buried in these chakras.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> May Mother Bless.

>

> Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> p.s.ramanaryanan.

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Rama Narayanan, Namaskar

> Very nice mail. I must correct you just as i was corrected in the

> past by my Guruji. Jupiter rules the memory and jnana and is subject

> to forgetfulness due to the eclipse of Rahu (refer dig vs. kala

> chakra). For this reason we avoid Rahu kalam for all works related to

> jnana and worship Budha on every Budhastami to help overcome this

> eclipse of the memory. Mercury sits opposite Rahu in the kala chakra

> and is able to help us overcome the affliction of Rahu, hence he is

> worshipped to overcome these problems.

> Similar remedies lie in worshipping God in trees and nature (again

> mercury) to overcome the evils of Rahu/astami/amavasya.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa] On

> Behalf Of rama narayanan

> 18 August 2006 17:52

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lord Krishna!

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> Namaste. i keep on admiring your sincerity and dedication to this

> Holy Subject. Good. Now let me address your questions.

>

> The karaka for memory is Buda. Buda gives you knowledge of past

> lives. Reading into the account of jiva holding on to various

> shareeras is possible with the aid of Buda. Remembering the ahankara's

> play in various shareeras is not considered auspicious.

>

> What is then auspicious? Remembering the Lord the ultimate is what

> is indeed the real smaranam/auspicious. It is for this reason Mars is

> called as Mangala. Mars is also called as Smarahara - The Rudra who

> wipes out all the memories of the past lives. i wrote about the anger

> part just to give hint about the Rudra force.

>

> If the day dawns with the memory of the Lord that day is

> considered as auspicious.

>

> Buda gives you the memories of shareera into which the jiva/life

> force was forced to live. Mangala destroys the memories of those

> shareeric experience and traces your route back to godhead.

>

> Astrologically there is deep connection to it. Mars is the karaka

> for 3rd and 6th house(natural past houses). Buda owns the 3rd and 6th

> house of the Kalapurusha. Rahu is exalted in 3rd house while Buda is

> exalted in the 6th house. Buda is the karaka for 10th house(present)

> where Mars is exalted and is also considered digbali there. Mars owns

> the lagna of the Kalapurusha while Buda is considered digbali in

> lagna. Mars can bring about accidents while Buda can bring about

> natural calamities/landslides etc.,!!!! Both the planets have their

> marana karaka sthanas in the 7th house. The difference is that Mars is

> the chaaya form of agni(Venus) while Buda is the chaaya form of

> deception(Rahu). This is a subject in itself.

>

> By the way Budha-astami(rahu) vratha(Mars) helps bringing you back

> to Krsna rather than blessing with the knowledge of past lives. Budha

> is the dry earthern vessel, Astami(Rahu) is the oil-soaked wick and

> Vratha is the fire force(energy) of resolution to release oneself

> from the clutches of samsara. It is the sincere call of the Gajendra

> to the Lord after having thoroughly understood its past misdeeds.

>

> Mars is the Yama dharma raja who is indeed the record-keeper of

> kala. May we request him to guide us further in the path to godhead.

>

> Let me stop here as the mail is becoming lengthy.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> May Mother Bless.

>

> Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

> Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

>

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> Dear Sri Rama Narayana-ji,

> Namaskar. I am delighted and educated to read your e-mail. Thank you

> for providing us this knowledge. May I ask a few doubts/thoughts in

> relation to this?

> Mangal is called the bhumi-soota; You have given connection of

> Mangal to Smaranam. Do you think an alternative could be Pada-sevanam.

> Further Budha Astami Vrata is said to bring in us the lost memories of

> past life and can make a person a jatismara. So could there be a

> connection of Budha to Smaranam. I am seeking guidance from you by

> thinking aloud.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

> ===============================================================

> sohamsa, rama narayanan

> <sree88ganesha wrote:

> >

> > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> >

> > Dear Shri Deenadayalan,

> >

> > Namaste. The flow of water in the downward direction is

> powerful. Being a father your approach to your children is a downward

> flow of water and hence was considered as the natural flow. Vatsalya

> means the love exhibited by a father/mother towards his/her children.

> Everyone may easily understand that it is the Lord who is the

> guardian/father but there seems to be still a distance. The moment one

> identifies the connection/relationship with the lord the love flows

> automatically. Relationship gets you close to the Lord. 5th

> house/thithi is therefore important. The problem in identifying the

> connection/relationship can be easily solved when one listens to the

> glories of the Lord, when one sits in a satsang as often as possible.

> The marga begins from sravanam(listening).

> >

> > i can give you the general planetary mapping to these steps.

> >

> > 1.Sravanam - Listening - Sun - as the more one listens to

> the glories of the Lord the ego/ahankara drops down nay melts down.

> > 2.Kirtanam - Singing - Moon - The effect of the listening to

> the glories of the Lord opens out the dormant fire in you - Vac sakthi

> is automatically is kindled.

> > 3.Smaranam - Remembering - Mars - In this Mrityu loka on

> account of the martian tendencies we lose the temper easily - this

> results in affecting the power of memory - this gives a clue to the

> fact that we are all born with this quality of anger as we have no

> memories of the past is it not!!! Anger needs to be resolved after

> identifying the same.

> > 4.Pada Sevanam - worshipping the feet of the Lord - service

> unto the feet of the Lord - Buda - Bhoo sparsa is the first act. Buda

> represents the prithvi tatwa. Buda is the karaka for karma/career -

> 10th house. Buda is the lord of karana(panchanga element - born out of

> thithi) which deals with activities and vasanas. You may be aware of

> the act of drawing the feet from the door steps to the puja room of

> Lord Srikrsna during the janmaastami day with the firm faith that the

> Lord would kindly grace. All the asuric tendencies associated with

> Buda can be wiped out in one stroke if one takes to paduka

> worship(Buda is debilitated in the 12th of kaala purusha) on

> wednesdays. The attitude of serving the Lord, the attitude that all

> the activities are for the Lord and the supreme resolution of brain

> feet co-ordination for dedicating the same to the Lord can all broadly

> be classified under pada-sevanam.

> > 5.Archanam - offering flowers with salutations - Guru - Guru

> is indeed the official priest - Flowers and beauty associated with

> them come under the domain of Venus. The act of offering the heart

> which opens out automatically on account of the flow of nectar/honey

> flowing within, to the Lord is on account of the blessings of Guru who

> is the one who can give sat buddhi(noble thoughts). Guru recognises

> the fact that nothing is beautiful or worth an appreciation unless the

> same submits itself/or offered to the Lord. Jyotish vidya teaches this

> fact clearly. Venus is found exalted in the 12th which is the house of

> sacrifice. Yajna/offering/sacrificing is the real beauty.

> > 6.Vandanam - Recognising the all-supremacy of the Lord and

> adoring him with one-pointed devotion is Vandanam - Venus - All the

> energies of Kala/time dissipated in mundane/material pursuits is

> recognised as the life force(prana). This is then beneficially spent

> in adoration of the Almighty. Rejuvenation results on account of vandana.

> > 7.Dasyam - servitude - Sani - Pavanasuta Hanuman considers

> himself as Ramadas - it is the best way to overcome all the obstacles

> put forth by the 6th bhava(karaka Sani) - it can easily bestow you

> with all the siddhis - though this not the reason for following this

> marga - siddhi in real sense means accomplishing any and every task

> entrusted.

> > 8.Sakhyam - attitude of friendship - Rahu - it is very

> elusive and not easy to grasp - The kishora leela is beyond words - He

> can steel and can identify himself as a thief and save his

> friends/playmates - In your readiness to play with the Lord you will

> in no time find your heart stolen(Rahu) - the pranks may be painful -

> you may feel cheated - you may start giving new definitions of

> dharma!!! -The Lord simply enjoys this game - The Lord likes this game

> of jivatma treating itself on par!!!! - He can treat Kaliya the

> dreadly serpent has his friend - For all those persons who have Rahu

> as the Atmakaraka they do not have Ketu in the 12th to give them

> moksha - does this mean bad!!?? No, Lords company is far superior than

> liberation that can be thought of. The Lord wilfully plays the role of

> a thief and the jiva is invited to play the role of a police - Life

> itself is made to appear as the hide and seek game. Lord is extremely

> merciful towards the opponent/playmate. He sees to

> > it that the playmate wins the game ultimately!!!

> > 9.Atmanivedanam - dedicating the life - Ketu - Nothing seems

> to be important rather exist without the Lord - From the headless

> plunge into the material activities when the illumination dawns to

> revert to go back, all the three legs which are folded and kept close

> to the tummy gets the needed energy and the sacred bull(Nandi)/Pranava

> raises up with dharmic vigour to move around majestically as a career

> of Lords breath. The life itself becomes auspicious.

> >

> > 5th house deals with thithi which is of jala tatwa in

> nature. 9th from any house is the protector of that bhava. For 5th

> bhava it is the 1st bhava which protects. In other terms it is the

> jnana element of the indriya. 5th is tongue - the instrument while

> taste is lagna the jnana element of tongue. Lagna is skin while the

> jnana element of the same is 9th bhava which is the sense of touch.

> You may have seen certain Gurus do not allow you touch them as touch

> has direct connection to the dhi sakthi(lagna - seat of intelligence).

> Similar is the case with the 2nd/3rd/4th bhavas. All the panchangas

> can be easily mapped to these houses.

> >

> > Let me stop here - the mail is already too long.

> >

> > Best wishes.

> >

> > May Mother Bless.

> >

> > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> >

> > dheena0104 dheena0104 wrote: OM NAMASHIWAY

> > Dear Guru Ji, Namaskar, Sri Ramnarayanan Ji Namaskar,

> >

> > Thank you for the wonderful information regarding

> transformation.

> > Please kindly permit us to understand the things better. 5H

> is ninth

> > house to 9H Vishnu sthana, which means probability for

> > transformation is 100% but need some catalyst such as

> Vatsalaya rasa

> > without knowing what the term Vastalayarasa.mean , I am

> unable to

> > get the essence amritha.

> >

> > With respects.

> >

> > Yours Sincerely,

> > S.Dheenadayalan

> >

> > sohamsa, rama narayanan sree88ganesha@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Namaste. 5th house is the most important house in the

> chart. 5th

> > house is the house of Mantra. 5th house is also the Putra

> Bhava.

> > >

> > > Mata Devaki and Pita Vasudeva were eagerly awaiting the

> birth of

> > the 8th child - the birth of deliverer - the LORD. Lord

> Visnu who is

> > residing within the heart of every living entity, appeared

> in the

> > darkness of night as the Supreme personality of Godhead before

> > Devaki and Vasudeva. The Lord appeared as a baby with four

> hands,

> > holding conchshell, club, disc and lotus flower, decorated

> with the

> > mark of Srivatsa, wearing the jeweled neckalace of Kaustubha

> stone,

> > dressed in yellow silk, appearing dazzling like a bright

> blackish

> > cloud, wearing a helmet bedecked with the vaidurya stone,

> valuable

> > bracelets, earrings, and similar other ornaments all over

> his body

> > and beautified by an abundance of hair on his head. This

> appearance

> > was enought to prove to the parents the arrival of the Supreme

> > force. The Lord in the child spoke that in the millenium of

> > Syaayambhuva manu Vasudeva was Prajapati Sutapa and Mother

> Devaki

> > was Prsni. HE said that HE was born to them during that time as

> > > Prsnigarbha on account of their prayers and during the next

> > millennium the parents took birth as Kasyapa and Aditi and

> the Lord

> > was born to them as Upendra/Vamanadeva. This is the third

> time that

> > the Lord is fulfilling their wishes and he is being born to

> them

> > KRSNA. The Lord thereafter ordered Vasudeva to carry him to

> Gokula

> > and exchange him for the daughter of Yasoda who was born then.

> > Having said thus the Lord turned Himself into an ordinary

> child in

> > their presence and remained silent.

> > >

> > > Vasudeva was extremely pleased. As he was about to carry

> out the

> > orders of the Lord he understood that his hand-cuffs were not

> > removed. Then how could he do this act!! This thought came

> to him

> > only for a few seconds. But without hesitation he started to

> act as

> > per the dictates of the Lord. He moved with the handcuffs

> and lifted

> > the child and placed to his bosom and to his head. No sooner

> he did

> > this the handcuffs were removed instantly and the prison doors

> > opened automatically.

> > >

> > > Though i am not interesed in philosophising this beautiful

> event

> > the thought the four-handed Visnu did not remove the

> handcuffs of

> > Vasudeva but the implicit resolution to do work ordained by

> the Lord

> > and the act of lifting the baby and placing to the bosom and

> to the

> > Head removed the handcuffs is fascinating indeed. The

> vatsalya rasa

> > can break all the fetters of Samsara in no time when one

> understands

> > Visnu as Krsna and takes him to his heart and to his head.

> > >

> > > Let us come back to Jyotish vidya. From the 9th house of

> Narayana

> > to 5th house of Krsna the vatsalya rasa transformation is

> the need

> > of the hour. In the Putra Bhava, Vatsalya ras naturally

> flows. From

> > the Putra Bhava the Madura ras of Krsna Nama can bring about

> the

> > required enlightenment to the 'dhi' sakthi/lagna)seat of

> Prajapati

> > (remember Vasudeva was born as one of the Prajapatis known as

> > Sutapa).

> > >

> > > i take this opportunity to pray to SriKrsna to gift us all

> this

> > transformation on this auspicious day of Janma astami.

> > >

> > > By his birth on Astami thithi the thithi itself gains the

> Jaya

> > Nama/Ghosha. This Jaya thithi removes the ahankara negativity

> of

> > Simha, wrong headless-notions of dharma relating to dhanu

> and fear

> > attached to Kumbha as per the ghataka principle.

> > >

> > > HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE

> RAMA

> > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE.

> > >

> > > Sarvam Krsnaarpanamasthu.

> > >

> > > Best wishes.

> > >

> > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

August 28, 2006

Dear Gauranga ji

Namaste

Thanks for the comments and valid points.Especially as it comes from a

learned person like you.

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "Gauranga Das" <gaurangad

wrote:

>

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Excellent mails, and very thought-provoking. Let me sum up my

conclusions:

> Mercury is Karaka for intelligence, Mars is karaka for logic, and

Jupiter

> for wisdom. One shorth thought added: for moksha, the native should be

> sincere and give up attachments/desires. Thereofre the occupancy of

the

> 4th and 7th houses is very important. It is favourable if the 4th

house

> has only natural benefics and the Sun, and it is favourable if the 7th

> house is ocuppied or aspected by planets causing pravrajya, ilke

Saturn

> and Ketu. Any strong planets in the 7th house may be the causes of

> rebirth, because they indicate strong material desires.û

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das

>

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>

> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:43:03 +0200, vijayadas_pradeep

> <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Ramanarayanan ji

> > It was great reading your mail in Sohamsa group.Could you kindly help

> > me more in understanding your mail fully.I feel Budha is the Karaka

> > for memory for the following reasons.Kindly correct and guide me.Visti

> > ji kindly read my views as well.

> >

> > 1)Prithvi tattwa is more towards memory and shareera as compared to

> > Akasha tattwa,represented by Guru.Janana represented by Guru is not

> > just that of memory,though it can encompass the realms of memory.The

> > difference is like an intelligent student and a wise person.Any wise

> > man can understand any intelligent person.But all intelligent persons

> > may not understand, a wise statement.

> >

> > 2)Budha is intelligence of retention and imitation as you have rightly

> > mentioned.This is the INITIAL learning quality needed in any student.

> >

> > Though Rahu/Kethu does not have, own houses/exaltation etc,there are

> > rashis, where they feel exalted ,swastha etc as per some acharyas and

> > thus can be used in Phalitha jyotisha.Moreover classics say Rahu/Kethu

> > takes on the quality of the rashi they occuppy apart from being

> > Manda/Kuja.

> >

> > For examle One among the qualities of Mithuna rashi is ''

> > Hasyongithajna'' -Meaning - Ability in teasing and knowing the Ingitha

> > or intention of others.Rahu should thus naturally feel exalted in

> > Mithuna.

> > Similarly Kanni Rashi, where Budha is getting exalted is having nature

> > as ''Paragriha vaasi,Priya Bhaashi''

> >

> > Thus Budha likes to live in the houses of others and he is intersted

> > in imitating others,speaking to the likes of others.He is quick and

> > deceptive.He takes on the quality of those with whom he associates.May

> > be for this reason, you said,Budha is chaaya of Rahu?.Moreover there

> > is an element of materiliastic learning and existence common to them.

> >

> > 3)Mars is ''Kroora Drik'' but Udaara/Daana sheela.Also through Mantra

> > sidhi he bestows auspisciousness.Feet has to be studied through

> > Rahu/Meena as per some acharyas.Meena is Moksha/feet and Rahu is the

> > force which keeps us on earth or prithvi.Bhagavan created this

> > Universe(through his kalpana) for experiencing/learning and

> > returning.This dynamic process is the very activity that sustains the

> > Universe.When his Kalpana is nil,everything shrinks back.Thus Rahu is

> > having a very important role in the above said learnign process.Before

> > the dasha of Brihaspathi dawns, Rahu does his job.We should never

> > undermine Rahu.Krishna as you have said has the colour of Rahu and the

> > deceptive nature.

> >

> > So Mars i think,through his Agni,burns prithvi or material

> > experiences.Hope i have understood correct.Also Shukra is SHUKLA,which

> > is again Agni,the beeja.I feel thus you have used Chaaya relating Kuja

> > and Shukra.Kindly elaborate,when time permits.

> >

> > 4)For Moksha, mercury has to be debilitated.What does this mean.Can i

> > say,stop learning and imitating.Turn inward and see the light.No

> > wonder mercury feels debilitated in Moksha Kshethra of Guru and Shukra

> > floats with sublime happiness.Whenever Budha is maudhya(combust),there

> > will be suppression of certain karaktwas related to learning.When

> > Budha is coming closer and closer to Soorya,i feel this moudhya is a

> > blessing in disguise.Individual learning is blurred by Soorya and

> > budha just bends his head and absorbs/reflects true LIGHT and becomes

> > Jnana Swaroopa.I can see this in the case of Lakshmi Ramesh ji.

> >

> > I can only keep my hands folded in respect,in front of your intutive

> > wisdom,Ramanarayanan ji.It triggered even my ordinary

> > intelligence.Kindly guide/illumine,leading me further towards HIM.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna||

> > Dear Ramanarayanan, Namaskar

> > Budhastami is for all astrologers, not just those with ill placed

> > planets in their kala-chakra. It strengthens Guru, but no doubt if

> > Rahu is placed in Ishana-kona in the Kala Chakra started from Chandra

> > in Ishana-kona, then it would be most advisable to propitiate Rahu or

> > perform the Budhastami Vrata, to remove the grahana of Rahu on the

> > diva of Ishana.

> > I think any form of Tamas causes the memory to disapear, but since

> > ruchaka mahapurusha yoga can give knowledge of Jyotish, i do put

> > Mangal on a higher pedistal than the other tamasic grahas. Essentially

> > when Mars becomes Aghora he bestows great knowledge of Jyotish and

> > mantra/tantra-vidya on the person. This happens in Guru-Mangala Yogas

> > (when associated with lagna) and in Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yogas. This is

> > Agni put to good use, and for that i can not equate him with

memory-loss.

> > However, Shani is the real culprit, among the tamasic-grahas, that

> > makes us forget life after life. He causes our rebirth through his

> > uccha-rasi - Thula, and in his svakshetra he causes the complete loss

> > and debility of memory for Jnanakaraka Guru. His seperation-causing

> > vayu tattva bestows the greatest ignorrance of all, namely the

> > understanding that we are different from one each other, and that we

> > have a mind of our own. He is the first causator of ahamkara, and this

> > is more carefully seen through the tara (nakshatra) of the moon...

> > hence taras/nakshatras are ruled by Vayu tattva among the panchanga.

> > This 'Tara' which the Moon (Chandra) has kidnapped is the source of

> > our greatest concern in horoscopes. For it was due to Chandra that our

> > dhi left the Guru (Brhaspati) and came under the control of the

> > individual or Manas (Chandra). It was the day when the kidnapping

> > started which was Krishna Chaturdasi, and the Guru himself becomes

> > very angry and requires the propitiation of Shiva to overcome. But,

> > worst was not the kidnapping itself but the result namely the

> > conception of a child which took placed during the day after, namely

> > Amavasya. It was on this day that WE were created as the bastard

> > children of Chandra. The child was named Budha. This eclipse or

> > Grahana of our dhi which led to our births and rebirths, happened on

> > the tithi of Rahu, and on each such tithis we try to overcome this

> > ignorrance which has repeatedly caused Chandra to kidnap our Tara, and

> > instead try to bring Tara back to Brhaspati.

> > One such Tithi is Astami, and the best day is that of Budha himself,

> > hence budha-astami is the day when we will overcome this eclipse.

> > The road back to Brhaspati is the road back to the Guru in our lives,

> > and this is the reason we perform the Budhastami Vrata. Let Tara go

> > back to Brhaspati.

> > phew!... hope this is of use.

> > Best wishes,

> > ***

> > Visti Larsen

> > For services and articles visit:

> > http://srigaruda.com

> > ***

> >

> > [] On Behalf Of rama narayanan

> > 19 August 2006 17:09

> >

> > RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lord Krishna!

> >

> > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Namaste. Thank you for the response and for the note of correction.

> > May i request you to kindly explain as to when do you perform

> > Buda-astami-vratha when you find Rahu in Isaana or when you find Buda

> > in Nirruti. May i write a few more lines in this regard?

> >

> > As per Bhagavad-Gita, it is the Lord who is responsible, nay,

> > causative factor for remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness.

> > -------Chapter 15 - 15.

> >

> > In South India(Chennai) remedial measures are performed during Rahu

> > Kaalam. Temples are kept opened. Nadis do prescribe such remedies.

> >

> > There is no harm in worshipping the Lord during Rahu kalam. The power

> > of the graha is such that jivas are easily weakened. It is the abuse

> > of the kala which is noticed and Mahakala acts swiftly. You know the

> > background story of Hiranyaksha and Hiranakashipu.

> >

> > Maya appears to obscure the Lord. In reality it is not so. It is as

> > per the sankalpa of the Lord.

> >

> > Both Guru and Buda are considered digbali in Lagna. Guru is given the

> > responsibility of knowledge, Buda the parrot is given the duty of

> > retention and recitation(verbatim - Sukadeva) and the mixture of Sun,

> > Mars & Lagna are given the duty of brightening the ahankara so as to

> > cause forgetfulness. Brighter the ahankara greater is the invisibility

> > of the Lord.

> >

> > Now the question comes as to how to dim the light & lessen the heat of

> > ahankara, if putting off appears to be difficult. "OM HUIM RAM

> > CHAITANYAYA NAMAH" - Both the physical and the inner lamp needs to be

> > lit to dim the light coming forth from ahankara. In reality the light

> > that is coming from ahankara is ignorance!!!!

> >

> > Once the lamp is lit the Vani of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is heard -

> > "CHANT HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA

> > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE".

> >

> > The first effect of this, is the recognition of Kala. Buda-astami is

> > identified. A deep interest for transformation takes place. Vratha

> > the resolution of anger(Mars) takes place. The smile of the Lord is

> > recognised.

> >

> > For mapping the nava-vidha bhakthi,the vara chakra ,the gift of

> > Maharishi, naturally fits.

> >

> > Taking into consideration the most benefic aspect of Guru, He is the

> > natural choice to put on the Vesha of the Lord(in absolute sense).

> > This being the case he is the natural lord for

> > memory/remembrance/knowledge and forgetfulness too!!!

> >

> > Dig chakra and kala chakra is too deep indeed. The mysteries of marana

> > karaka sthana lies buried in these chakras.

> >

> > Best wishes.

> >

> > May Mother Bless.

> >

> > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > p.s.ramanaryanan.

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > Dear Rama Narayanan, Namaskar

> > Very nice mail. I must correct you just as i was corrected in the

> > past by my Guruji. Jupiter rules the memory and jnana and is subject

> > to forgetfulness due to the eclipse of Rahu (refer dig vs. kala

> > chakra). For this reason we avoid Rahu kalam for all works related to

> > jnana and worship Budha on every Budhastami to help overcome this

> > eclipse of the memory. Mercury sits opposite Rahu in the kala chakra

> > and is able to help us overcome the affliction of Rahu, hence he is

> > worshipped to overcome these problems.

> > Similar remedies lie in worshipping God in trees and nature (again

> > mercury) to overcome the evils of Rahu/astami/amavasya.

> > Best wishes,

> > ***

> > Visti Larsen

> > For services and articles visit:

> > http://srigaruda.com

> > ***

> >

> > sohamsa [sohamsa] On

> > Behalf Of rama narayanan

> > 18 August 2006 17:52

> > sohamsa

> > Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lord Krishna!

> >

> > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> >

> > Namaste. i keep on admiring your sincerity and dedication to this

> > Holy Subject. Good. Now let me address your questions.

> >

> > The karaka for memory is Buda. Buda gives you knowledge of past

> > lives. Reading into the account of jiva holding on to various

> > shareeras is possible with the aid of Buda. Remembering the ahankara's

> > play in various shareeras is not considered auspicious.

> >

> > What is then auspicious? Remembering the Lord the ultimate is what

> > is indeed the real smaranam/auspicious. It is for this reason Mars is

> > called as Mangala. Mars is also called as Smarahara - The Rudra who

> > wipes out all the memories of the past lives. i wrote about the anger

> > part just to give hint about the Rudra force.

> >

> > If the day dawns with the memory of the Lord that day is

> > considered as auspicious.

> >

> > Buda gives you the memories of shareera into which the jiva/life

> > force was forced to live. Mangala destroys the memories of those

> > shareeric experience and traces your route back to godhead.

> >

> > Astrologically there is deep connection to it. Mars is the karaka

> > for 3rd and 6th house(natural past houses). Buda owns the 3rd and 6th

> > house of the Kalapurusha. Rahu is exalted in 3rd house while Buda is

> > exalted in the 6th house. Buda is the karaka for 10th house(present)

> > where Mars is exalted and is also considered digbali there. Mars owns

> > the lagna of the Kalapurusha while Buda is considered digbali in

> > lagna. Mars can bring about accidents while Buda can bring about

> > natural calamities/landslides etc.,!!!! Both the planets have their

> > marana karaka sthanas in the 7th house. The difference is that Mars is

> > the chaaya form of agni(Venus) while Buda is the chaaya form of

> > deception(Rahu). This is a subject in itself.

> >

> > By the way Budha-astami(rahu) vratha(Mars) helps bringing you back

> > to Krsna rather than blessing with the knowledge of past lives. Budha

> > is the dry earthern vessel, Astami(Rahu) is the oil-soaked wick and

> > Vratha is the fire force(energy) of resolution to release oneself

> > from the clutches of samsara. It is the sincere call of the Gajendra

> > to the Lord after having thoroughly understood its past misdeeds.

> >

> > Mars is the Yama dharma raja who is indeed the record-keeper of

> > kala. May we request him to guide us further in the path to godhead.

> >

> > Let me stop here as the mail is becoming lengthy.

> >

> > Best wishes.

> >

> > May Mother Bless.

> >

> > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> >

> > Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> > Dear Sri Rama Narayana-ji,

> > Namaskar. I am delighted and educated to read your e-mail. Thank you

> > for providing us this knowledge. May I ask a few doubts/thoughts in

> > relation to this?

> > Mangal is called the bhumi-soota; You have given connection of

> > Mangal to Smaranam. Do you think an alternative could be Pada-sevanam.

> > Further Budha Astami Vrata is said to bring in us the lost memories of

> > past life and can make a person a jatismara. So could there be a

> > connection of Budha to Smaranam. I am seeking guidance from you by

> > thinking aloud.

> > Best wishes,

> > Sourav

> >

===============================================================

> > sohamsa, rama narayanan

> > <sree88ganesha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Deenadayalan,

> > >

> > > Namaste. The flow of water in the downward direction is

> > powerful. Being a father your approach to your children is a downward

> > flow of water and hence was considered as the natural flow. Vatsalya

> > means the love exhibited by a father/mother towards his/her children.

> > Everyone may easily understand that it is the Lord who is the

> > guardian/father but there seems to be still a distance. The moment one

> > identifies the connection/relationship with the lord the love flows

> > automatically. Relationship gets you close to the Lord. 5th

> > house/thithi is therefore important. The problem in identifying the

> > connection/relationship can be easily solved when one listens to the

> > glories of the Lord, when one sits in a satsang as often as possible.

> > The marga begins from sravanam(listening).

> > >

> > > i can give you the general planetary mapping to these steps.

> > >

> > > 1.Sravanam - Listening - Sun - as the more one listens to

> > the glories of the Lord the ego/ahankara drops down nay melts down.

> > > 2.Kirtanam - Singing - Moon - The effect of the listening to

> > the glories of the Lord opens out the dormant fire in you - Vac sakthi

> > is automatically is kindled.

> > > 3.Smaranam - Remembering - Mars - In this Mrityu loka on

> > account of the martian tendencies we lose the temper easily - this

> > results in affecting the power of memory - this gives a clue to the

> > fact that we are all born with this quality of anger as we have no

> > memories of the past is it not!!! Anger needs to be resolved after

> > identifying the same.

> > > 4.Pada Sevanam - worshipping the feet of the Lord - service

> > unto the feet of the Lord - Buda - Bhoo sparsa is the first act. Buda

> > represents the prithvi tatwa. Buda is the karaka for karma/career -

> > 10th house. Buda is the lord of karana(panchanga element - born out of

> > thithi) which deals with activities and vasanas. You may be aware of

> > the act of drawing the feet from the door steps to the puja room of

> > Lord Srikrsna during the janmaastami day with the firm faith that the

> > Lord would kindly grace. All the asuric tendencies associated with

> > Buda can be wiped out in one stroke if one takes to paduka

> > worship(Buda is debilitated in the 12th of kaala purusha) on

> > wednesdays. The attitude of serving the Lord, the attitude that all

> > the activities are for the Lord and the supreme resolution of brain

> > feet co-ordination for dedicating the same to the Lord can all broadly

> > be classified under pada-sevanam.

> > > 5.Archanam - offering flowers with salutations - Guru - Guru

> > is indeed the official priest - Flowers and beauty associated with

> > them come under the domain of Venus. The act of offering the heart

> > which opens out automatically on account of the flow of nectar/honey

> > flowing within, to the Lord is on account of the blessings of Guru who

> > is the one who can give sat buddhi(noble thoughts). Guru recognises

> > the fact that nothing is beautiful or worth an appreciation unless the

> > same submits itself/or offered to the Lord. Jyotish vidya teaches this

> > fact clearly. Venus is found exalted in the 12th which is the house of

> > sacrifice. Yajna/offering/sacrificing is the real beauty.

> > > 6.Vandanam - Recognising the all-supremacy of the Lord and

> > adoring him with one-pointed devotion is Vandanam - Venus - All the

> > energies of Kala/time dissipated in mundane/material pursuits is

> > recognised as the life force(prana). This is then beneficially spent

> > in adoration of the Almighty. Rejuvenation results on account of

vandana.

> > > 7.Dasyam - servitude - Sani - Pavanasuta Hanuman considers

> > himself as Ramadas - it is the best way to overcome all the obstacles

> > put forth by the 6th bhava(karaka Sani) - it can easily bestow you

> > with all the siddhis - though this not the reason for following this

> > marga - siddhi in real sense means accomplishing any and every task

> > entrusted.

> > > 8.Sakhyam - attitude of friendship - Rahu - it is very

> > elusive and not easy to grasp - The kishora leela is beyond words - He

> > can steel and can identify himself as a thief and save his

> > friends/playmates - In your readiness to play with the Lord you will

> > in no time find your heart stolen(Rahu) - the pranks may be painful -

> > you may feel cheated - you may start giving new definitions of

> > dharma!!! -The Lord simply enjoys this game - The Lord likes this game

> > of jivatma treating itself on par!!!! - He can treat Kaliya the

> > dreadly serpent has his friend - For all those persons who have Rahu

> > as the Atmakaraka they do not have Ketu in the 12th to give them

> > moksha - does this mean bad!!?? No, Lords company is far superior than

> > liberation that can be thought of. The Lord wilfully plays the role of

> > a thief and the jiva is invited to play the role of a police - Life

> > itself is made to appear as the hide and seek game. Lord is extremely

> > merciful towards the opponent/playmate. He sees to

> > > it that the playmate wins the game ultimately!!!

> > > 9.Atmanivedanam - dedicating the life - Ketu - Nothing seems

> > to be important rather exist without the Lord - From the headless

> > plunge into the material activities when the illumination dawns to

> > revert to go back, all the three legs which are folded and kept close

> > to the tummy gets the needed energy and the sacred bull(Nandi)/Pranava

> > raises up with dharmic vigour to move around majestically as a career

> > of Lords breath. The life itself becomes auspicious.

> > >

> > > 5th house deals with thithi which is of jala tatwa in

> > nature. 9th from any house is the protector of that bhava. For 5th

> > bhava it is the 1st bhava which protects. In other terms it is the

> > jnana element of the indriya. 5th is tongue - the instrument while

> > taste is lagna the jnana element of tongue. Lagna is skin while the

> > jnana element of the same is 9th bhava which is the sense of touch.

> > You may have seen certain Gurus do not allow you touch them as touch

> > has direct connection to the dhi sakthi(lagna - seat of intelligence).

> > Similar is the case with the 2nd/3rd/4th bhavas. All the panchangas

> > can be easily mapped to these houses.

> > >

> > > Let me stop here - the mail is already too long.

> > >

> > > Best wishes.

> > >

> > > May Mother Bless.

> > >

> > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > >

> > > dheena0104 dheena0104@ wrote: OM NAMASHIWAY

> > > Dear Guru Ji, Namaskar, Sri Ramnarayanan Ji Namaskar,

> > >

> > > Thank you for the wonderful information regarding

> > transformation.

> > > Please kindly permit us to understand the things better. 5H

> > is ninth

> > > house to 9H Vishnu sthana, which means probability for

> > > transformation is 100% but need some catalyst such as

> > Vatsalaya rasa

> > > without knowing what the term Vastalayarasa.mean , I am

> > unable to

> > > get the essence amritha.

> > >

> > > With respects.

> > >

> > > Yours Sincerely,

> > > S.Dheenadayalan

> > >

> > > sohamsa, rama narayanan

sree88ganesha@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. 5th house is the most important house in the

> > chart. 5th

> > > house is the house of Mantra. 5th house is also the Putra

> > Bhava.

> > > >

> > > > Mata Devaki and Pita Vasudeva were eagerly awaiting the

> > birth of

> > > the 8th child - the birth of deliverer - the LORD. Lord

> > Visnu who is

> > > residing within the heart of every living entity, appeared

> > in the

> > > darkness of night as the Supreme personality of Godhead

before

> > > Devaki and Vasudeva. The Lord appeared as a baby with four

> > hands,

> > > holding conchshell, club, disc and lotus flower, decorated

> > with the

> > > mark of Srivatsa, wearing the jeweled neckalace of Kaustubha

> > stone,

> > > dressed in yellow silk, appearing dazzling like a bright

> > blackish

> > > cloud, wearing a helmet bedecked with the vaidurya stone,

> > valuable

> > > bracelets, earrings, and similar other ornaments all over

> > his body

> > > and beautified by an abundance of hair on his head. This

> > appearance

> > > was enought to prove to the parents the arrival of the

Supreme

> > > force. The Lord in the child spoke that in the millenium of

> > > Syaayambhuva manu Vasudeva was Prajapati Sutapa and Mother

> > Devaki

> > > was Prsni. HE said that HE was born to them during that

time as

> > > > Prsnigarbha on account of their prayers and during the

> > the Lord

> > > was born to them as Upendra/Vamanadeva. This is the third

> > time that

> > > the Lord is fulfilling their wishes and he is being born

to

> > them

> > > KRSNA. The Lord thereafter ordered Vasudeva to carry him to

> > Gokula

> > > and exchange him for the daughter of Yasoda who was born

then.

> > > Having said thus the Lord turned Himself into an ordinary

> > child in

> > > their presence and remained silent.

> > > >

> > > > Vasudeva was extremely pleased. As he was about to carry

> > out the

> > > orders of the Lord he understood that his hand-cuffs

were not

> > > removed. Then how could he do this act!! This thought came

> > to him

> > > only for a few seconds. But without hesitation he started to

> > act as

> > > per the dictates of the Lord. He moved with the handcuffs

> > and lifted

> > > the child and placed to his bosom and to his head. No sooner

> > he did

> > > this the handcuffs were removed instantly and the prison

doors

> > > opened automatically.

> > > >

> > > > Though i am not interesed in philosophising this beautiful

> > event

> > > the thought the four-handed Visnu did not remove the

> > handcuffs of

> > > Vasudeva but the implicit resolution to do work ordained by

> > the Lord

> > > and the act of lifting the baby and placing to the bosom and

> > to the

> > > Head removed the handcuffs is fascinating indeed. The

> > vatsalya rasa

> > > can break all the fetters of Samsara in no time when one

> > understands

> > > Visnu as Krsna and takes him to his heart and to his head.

> > > >

> > > > Let us come back to Jyotish vidya. From the 9th house of

> > Narayana

> > > to 5th house of Krsna the vatsalya rasa transformation is

> > the need

> > > of the hour. In the Putra Bhava, Vatsalya ras naturally

> > flows. From

> > > the Putra Bhava the Madura ras of Krsna Nama can bring

about

> > the

> > > required enlightenment to the 'dhi' sakthi/lagna)seat of

> > Prajapati

> > > (remember Vasudeva was born as one of the Prajapatis

known as

> > > Sutapa).

> > > >

> > > > i take this opportunity to pray to SriKrsna to gift us all

> > this

> > > transformation on this auspicious day of Janma astami.

> > > >

> > > > By his birth on Astami thithi the thithi itself gains

the

> > Jaya

> > > Nama/Ghosha. This Jaya thithi removes the ahankara

negativity

> > of

> > > Simha, wrong headless-notions of dharma relating to dhanu

> > and fear

> > > attached to Kumbha as per the ghataka principle.

> > > >

> > > > HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE

> > RAMA

> > > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE.

> > > >

> > > > Sarvam Krsnaarpanamasthu.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes.

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> >

>

August 28, 2006

|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Gauranga-ji,

Namaskar. Your thought is similar to

that expressed in the books of Pt. P. S. Sastri and Sri R. G. Gopala

Krishna Row. It is said that if 2nd (food), 4th (happiness), 7th

(relationships, spouse, desires) and 12th houses (sleep and rest) are

destroyed or heavily afflicted, the person turns to spirituality being

disillusioned about persuing material happiness and stability. Pt.

Sastri has given several illustrations. Of course one of two houses of

this group getting afflicted is not enough. In addition if Pravrajya

yogas given by Maharsi Parasara are in effect, the person will surely

take sanyaas.

Best wishes,

Sourav

===============================================================

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Gauranga ji

>

> Namaste

>

> Thanks for the comments and valid points.Especially as it comes from a

> learned person like you.

>

> Pradeep

> vedic astrology, "Gauranga Das" gaurangad@

> wrote:

> >

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Jyotisha,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Excellent mails, and very thought-provoking. Let me sum up my

> conclusions:

> > Mercury is Karaka for intelligence, Mars is karaka for logic, and

> Jupiter

> > for wisdom. One shorth thought added: for moksha, the native should

be

> > sincere and give up attachments/desires. Thereofre the occupancy of

> the

> > 4th and 7th houses is very important. It is favourable if the 4th

> house

> > has only natural benefics and the Sun, and it is favourable if the

7th

> > house is ocuppied or aspected by planets causing pravrajya, ilke

> Saturn

> > and Ketu. Any strong planets in the 7th house may be the causes of

> > rebirth, because they indicate strong material desires.û

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das

> >

> > --

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > & Ayurvedic Consultant

> > Tel: +36309140839

> > www.brihaspati.net

> > www.atmacenter.hu

> > Skype: gauranga_das

> >

> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:43:03 +0200, vijayadas_pradeep

> > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ramanarayanan ji

> > > It was great reading your mail in Sohamsa group.Could you kindly

help

> > > me more in understanding your mail fully.I feel Budha is the

Karaka

> > > for memory for the following reasons.Kindly correct and guide

me.Visti

> > > ji kindly read my views as well.

> > >

> > > 1)Prithvi tattwa is more towards memory and shareera as compared

to

> > > Akasha tattwa,represented by Guru.Janana represented by Guru is

not

> > > just that of memory,though it can encompass the realms of

memory.The

> > > difference is like an intelligent student and a wise person.Any

wise

> > > man can understand any intelligent person.But all intelligent

persons

> > > may not understand, a wise statement.

> > >

> > > 2)Budha is intelligence of retention and imitation as you have

rightly

> > > mentioned.This is the INITIAL learning quality needed in any

student.

> > >

> > > Though Rahu/Kethu does not have, own houses/exaltation etc,there

are

> > > rashis, where they feel exalted ,swastha etc as per some acharyas

and

> > > thus can be used in Phalitha jyotisha.Moreover classics say

Rahu/Kethu

> > > takes on the quality of the rashi they occuppy apart from being

> > > Manda/Kuja.

> > >

> > > For examle One among the qualities of Mithuna rashi is ''

> > > Hasyongithajna'' -Meaning - Ability in teasing and knowing the

Ingitha

> > > or intention of others.Rahu should thus naturally feel exalted in

> > > Mithuna.

> > > Similarly Kanni Rashi, where Budha is getting exalted is having

nature

> > > as ''Paragriha vaasi,Priya Bhaashi''

> > >

> > > Thus Budha likes to live in the houses of others and he is

intersted

> > > in imitating others,speaking to the likes of others.He is quick

and

> > > deceptive.He takes on the quality of those with whom he

associates.May

> > > be for this reason, you said,Budha is chaaya of Rahu?.Moreover

there

> > > is an element of materiliastic learning and existence common to

them.

> > >

> > > 3)Mars is ''Kroora Drik'' but Udaara/Daana sheela.Also through

Mantra

> > > sidhi he bestows auspisciousness.Feet has to be studied through

> > > Rahu/Meena as per some acharyas.Meena is Moksha/feet and Rahu is

the

> > > force which keeps us on earth or prithvi.Bhagavan created this

> > > Universe(through his kalpana) for experiencing/learning and

> > > returning.This dynamic process is the very activity that sustains

the

> > > Universe.When his Kalpana is nil,everything shrinks back.Thus Rahu

is

> > > having a very important role in the above said learnign

process.Before

> > > the dasha of Brihaspathi dawns, Rahu does his job.We should never

> > > undermine Rahu.Krishna as you have said has the colour of Rahu and

the

> > > deceptive nature.

> > >

> > > So Mars i think,through his Agni,burns prithvi or material

> > > experiences.Hope i have understood correct.Also Shukra is

SHUKLA,which

> > > is again Agni,the beeja.I feel thus you have used Chaaya relating

Kuja

> > > and Shukra.Kindly elaborate,when time permits.

> > >

> > > 4)For Moksha, mercury has to be debilitated.What does this

mean.Can i

> > > say,stop learning and imitating.Turn inward and see the light.No

> > > wonder mercury feels debilitated in Moksha Kshethra of Guru and

Shukra

> > > floats with sublime happiness.Whenever Budha is

maudhya(combust),there

> > > will be suppression of certain karaktwas related to learning.When

> > > Budha is coming closer and closer to Soorya,i feel this moudhya is

a

> > > blessing in disguise.Individual learning is blurred by Soorya and

> > > budha just bends his head and absorbs/reflects true LIGHT and

becomes

> > > Jnana Swaroopa.I can see this in the case of Lakshmi Ramesh ji.

> > >

> > > I can only keep my hands folded in respect,in front of your

intutive

> > > wisdom,Ramanarayanan ji.It triggered even my ordinary

> > > intelligence.Kindly guide/illumine,leading me further towards HIM.

> > >

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > Dear Ramanarayanan, Namaskar

> > > Budhastami is for all astrologers, not just those with ill placed

> > > planets in their kala-chakra. It strengthens Guru, but no doubt if

> > > Rahu is placed in Ishana-kona in the Kala Chakra started from

Chandra

> > > in Ishana-kona, then it would be most advisable to propitiate Rahu

or

> > > perform the Budhastami Vrata, to remove the grahana of Rahu on the

> > > diva of Ishana.

> > > I think any form of Tamas causes the memory to disapear, but since

> > > ruchaka mahapurusha yoga can give knowledge of Jyotish, i do put

> > > Mangal on a higher pedistal than the other tamasic grahas.

Essentially

> > > when Mars becomes Aghora he bestows great knowledge of Jyotish and

> > > mantra/tantra-vidya on the person. This happens in Guru-Mangala

Yogas

> > > (when associated with lagna) and in Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yogas.

This is

> > > Agni put to good use, and for that i can not equate him with

> memory-loss.

> > > However, Shani is the real culprit, among the tamasic-grahas, that

> > > makes us forget life after life. He causes our rebirth through his

> > > uccha-rasi - Thula, and in his svakshetra he causes the complete

loss

> > > and debility of memory for Jnanakaraka Guru. His

seperation-causing

> > > vayu tattva bestows the greatest ignorrance of all, namely the

> > > understanding that we are different from one each other, and that

we

> > > have a mind of our own. He is the first causator of ahamkara, and

this

> > > is more carefully seen through the tara (nakshatra) of the moon...

> > > hence taras/nakshatras are ruled by Vayu tattva among the

panchanga.

> > > This 'Tara' which the Moon (Chandra) has kidnapped is the source

of

> > > our greatest concern in horoscopes. For it was due to Chandra that

our

> > > dhi left the Guru (Brhaspati) and came under the control of the

> > > individual or Manas (Chandra). It was the day when the kidnapping

> > > started which was Krishna Chaturdasi, and the Guru himself becomes

> > > very angry and requires the propitiation of Shiva to overcome.

But,

> > > worst was not the kidnapping itself but the result namely the

> > > conception of a child which took placed during the day after,

namely

> > > Amavasya. It was on this day that WE were created as the bastard

> > > children of Chandra. The child was named Budha. This eclipse or

> > > Grahana of our dhi which led to our births and rebirths, happened

on

> > > the tithi of Rahu, and on each such tithis we try to overcome this

> > > ignorrance which has repeatedly caused Chandra to kidnap our Tara,

and

> > > instead try to bring Tara back to Brhaspati.

> > > One such Tithi is Astami, and the best day is that of Budha

himself,

> > > hence budha-astami is the day when we will overcome this eclipse.

> > > The road back to Brhaspati is the road back to the Guru in our

lives,

> > > and this is the reason we perform the Budhastami Vrata. Let Tara

go

> > > back to Brhaspati.

> > > phew!... hope this is of use.

> > > Best wishes,

> > > ***

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > ***

> > >

> > > [] On Behalf Of rama narayanan

> > > 19 August 2006 17:09

> > >

> > > RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lord Krishna!

> > >

> > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > Namaste. Thank you for the response and for the note of

correction.

> > > May i request you to kindly explain as to when do you perform

> > > Buda-astami-vratha when you find Rahu in Isaana or when you find

Buda

> > > in Nirruti. May i write a few more lines in this regard?

> > >

> > > As per Bhagavad-Gita, it is the Lord who is responsible, nay,

> > > causative factor for remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness.

> > > -------Chapter 15 - 15.

> > >

> > > In South India(Chennai) remedial measures are performed during

Rahu

> > > Kaalam. Temples are kept opened. Nadis do prescribe such remedies.

> > >

> > > There is no harm in worshipping the Lord during Rahu kalam. The

power

> > > of the graha is such that jivas are easily weakened. It is the

abuse

> > > of the kala which is noticed and Mahakala acts swiftly. You know

the

> > > background story of Hiranyaksha and Hiranakashipu.

> > >

> > > Maya appears to obscure the Lord. In reality it is not so. It is

as

> > > per the sankalpa of the Lord.

> > >

> > > Both Guru and Buda are considered digbali in Lagna. Guru is given

the

> > > responsibility of knowledge, Buda the parrot is given the duty of

> > > retention and recitation(verbatim - Sukadeva) and the mixture of

Sun,

> > > Mars & Lagna are given the duty of brightening the ahankara so as

to

> > > cause forgetfulness. Brighter the ahankara greater is the

invisibility

> > > of the Lord.

> > >

> > > Now the question comes as to how to dim the light & lessen the

heat of

> > > ahankara, if putting off appears to be difficult. "OM HUIM RAM

> > > CHAITANYAYA NAMAH" - Both the physical and the inner lamp needs to

be

> > > lit to dim the light coming forth from ahankara. In reality the

light

> > > that is coming from ahankara is ignorance!!!!

> > >

> > > Once the lamp is lit the Vani of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is heard -

> > > "CHANT HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE

RAMA

> > > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE".

> > >

> > > The first effect of this, is the recognition of Kala. Buda-astami

is

> > > identified. A deep interest for transformation takes place. Vratha

> > > the resolution of anger(Mars) takes place. The smile of the Lord

is

> > > recognised.

> > >

> > > For mapping the nava-vidha bhakthi,the vara chakra ,the gift of

> > > Maharishi, naturally fits.

> > >

> > > Taking into consideration the most benefic aspect of Guru, He is

the

> > > natural choice to put on the Vesha of the Lord(in absolute sense).

> > > This being the case he is the natural lord for

> > > memory/remembrance/knowledge and forgetfulness too!!!

> > >

> > > Dig chakra and kala chakra is too deep indeed. The mysteries of

marana

> > > karaka sthana lies buried in these chakras.

> > >

> > > Best wishes.

> > >

> > > May Mother Bless.

> > >

> > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > p.s.ramanaryanan.

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > Dear Rama Narayanan, Namaskar

> > > Very nice mail. I must correct you just as i was corrected in the

> > > past by my Guruji. Jupiter rules the memory and jnana and is

subject

> > > to forgetfulness due to the eclipse of Rahu (refer dig vs. kala

> > > chakra). For this reason we avoid Rahu kalam for all works related

to

> > > jnana and worship Budha on every Budhastami to help overcome this

> > > eclipse of the memory. Mercury sits opposite Rahu in the kala

chakra

> > > and is able to help us overcome the affliction of Rahu, hence he

is

> > > worshipped to overcome these problems.

> > > Similar remedies lie in worshipping God in trees and nature (again

> > > mercury) to overcome the evils of Rahu/astami/amavasya.

> > > Best wishes,

> > > ***

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > ***

> > >

> > > sohamsa [sohamsa] On

> > > Behalf Of rama narayanan

> > > 18 August 2006 17:52

> > > sohamsa

> > > Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lord Krishna!

> > >

> > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav,

> > >

> > > Namaste. i keep on admiring your sincerity and dedication to this

> > > Holy Subject. Good. Now let me address your questions.

> > >

> > > The karaka for memory is Buda. Buda gives you knowledge of past

> > > lives. Reading into the account of jiva holding on to various

> > > shareeras is possible with the aid of Buda. Remembering the

ahankara's

> > > play in various shareeras is not considered auspicious.

> > >

> > > What is then auspicious? Remembering the Lord the ultimate is what

> > > is indeed the real smaranam/auspicious. It is for this reason Mars

is

> > > called as Mangala. Mars is also called as Smarahara - The Rudra

who

> > > wipes out all the memories of the past lives. i wrote about the

anger

> > > part just to give hint about the Rudra force.

> > >

> > > If the day dawns with the memory of the Lord that day is

> > > considered as auspicious.

> > >

> > > Buda gives you the memories of shareera into which the jiva/life

> > > force was forced to live. Mangala destroys the memories of those

> > > shareeric experience and traces your route back to godhead.

> > >

> > > Astrologically there is deep connection to it. Mars is the karaka

> > > for 3rd and 6th house(natural past houses). Buda owns the 3rd and

6th

> > > house of the Kalapurusha. Rahu is exalted in 3rd house while Buda

is

> > > exalted in the 6th house. Buda is the karaka for 10th

house(present)

> > > where Mars is exalted and is also considered digbali there. Mars

owns

> > > the lagna of the Kalapurusha while Buda is considered digbali in

> > > lagna. Mars can bring about accidents while Buda can bring about

> > > natural calamities/landslides etc.,!!!! Both the planets have

their

> > > marana karaka sthanas in the 7th house. The difference is that

Mars is

> > > the chaaya form of agni(Venus) while Buda is the chaaya form of

> > > deception(Rahu). This is a subject in itself.

> > >

> > > By the way Budha-astami(rahu) vratha(Mars) helps bringing you back

> > > to Krsna rather than blessing with the knowledge of past lives.

Budha

> > > is the dry earthern vessel, Astami(Rahu) is the oil-soaked wick

and

> > > Vratha is the fire force(energy) of resolution to release oneself

> > > from the clutches of samsara. It is the sincere call of the

Gajendra

> > > to the Lord after having thoroughly understood its past misdeeds.

> > >

> > > Mars is the Yama dharma raja who is indeed the record-keeper of

> > > kala. May we request him to guide us further in the path to

godhead.

> > >

> > > Let me stop here as the mail is becoming lengthy.

> > >

> > > Best wishes.

> > >

> > > May Mother Bless.

> > >

> > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > >

> > > Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> > > Dear Sri Rama Narayana-ji,

> > > Namaskar. I am delighted and educated to read your e-mail. Thank

you

> > > for providing us this knowledge. May I ask a few doubts/thoughts

in

> > > relation to this?

> > > Mangal is called the bhumi-soota; You have given connection of

> > > Mangal to Smaranam. Do you think an alternative could be

Pada-sevanam.

> > > Further Budha Astami Vrata is said to bring in us the lost

memories of

> > > past life and can make a person a jatismara. So could there be a

> > > connection of Budha to Smaranam. I am seeking guidance from you by

> > > thinking aloud.

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Sourav

> > >

> ===============================================================

> > > sohamsa, rama narayanan

> > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Deenadayalan,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. The flow of water in the downward direction is

> > > powerful. Being a father your approach to your children is a

downward

> > > flow of water and hence was considered as the natural flow.

Vatsalya

> > > means the love exhibited by a father/mother towards his/her

children.

> > > Everyone may easily understand that it is the Lord who is the

> > > guardian/father but there seems to be still a distance. The moment

one

> > > identifies the connection/relationship with the lord the love

flows

> > > automatically. Relationship gets you close to the Lord. 5th

> > > house/thithi is therefore important. The problem in identifying

the

> > > connection/relationship can be easily solved when one listens to

the

> > > glories of the Lord, when one sits in a satsang as often as

possible.

> > > The marga begins from sravanam(listening).

> > > >

> > > > i can give you the general planetary mapping to these steps.

> > > >

> > > > 1.Sravanam - Listening - Sun - as the more one listens to

> > > the glories of the Lord the ego/ahankara drops down nay melts

down.

> > > > 2.Kirtanam - Singing - Moon - The effect of the listening to

> > > the glories of the Lord opens out the dormant fire in you - Vac

sakthi

> > > is automatically is kindled.

> > > > 3.Smaranam - Remembering - Mars - In this Mrityu loka on

> > > account of the martian tendencies we lose the temper easily - this

> > > results in affecting the power of memory - this gives a clue to

the

> > > fact that we are all born with this quality of anger as we have no

> > > memories of the past is it not!!! Anger needs to be resolved after

> > > identifying the same.

> > > > 4.Pada Sevanam - worshipping the feet of the Lord - service

> > > unto the feet of the Lord - Buda - Bhoo sparsa is the first act.

Buda

> > > represents the prithvi tatwa. Buda is the karaka for karma/career

-

> > > 10th house. Buda is the lord of karana(panchanga element - born

out of

> > > thithi) which deals with activities and vasanas. You may be aware

of

> > > the act of drawing the feet from the door steps to the puja room

of

> > > Lord Srikrsna during the janmaastami day with the firm faith that

the

> > > Lord would kindly grace. All the asuric tendencies associated with

> > > Buda can be wiped out in one stroke if one takes to paduka

> > > worship(Buda is debilitated in the 12th of kaala purusha) on

> > > wednesdays. The attitude of serving the Lord, the attitude that

all

> > > the activities are for the Lord and the supreme resolution of

brain

> > > feet co-ordination for dedicating the same to the Lord can all

broadly

> > > be classified under pada-sevanam.

> > > > 5.Archanam - offering flowers with salutations - Guru - Guru

> > > is indeed the official priest - Flowers and beauty associated with

> > > them come under the domain of Venus. The act of offering the heart

> > > which opens out automatically on account of the flow of

nectar/honey

> > > flowing within, to the Lord is on account of the blessings of Guru

who

> > > is the one who can give sat buddhi(noble thoughts). Guru

recognises

> > > the fact that nothing is beautiful or worth an appreciation unless

the

> > > same submits itself/or offered to the Lord. Jyotish vidya teaches

this

> > > fact clearly. Venus is found exalted in the 12th which is the

house of

> > > sacrifice. Yajna/offering/sacrificing is the real beauty.

> > > > 6.Vandanam - Recognising the all-supremacy of the Lord and

> > > adoring him with one-pointed devotion is Vandanam - Venus - All

the

> > > energies of Kala/time dissipated in mundane/material pursuits is

> > > recognised as the life force(prana). This is then beneficially

spent

> > > in adoration of the Almighty. Rejuvenation results on account of

> vandana.

> > > > 7.Dasyam - servitude - Sani - Pavanasuta Hanuman considers

> > > himself as Ramadas - it is the best way to overcome all the

obstacles

> > > put forth by the 6th bhava(karaka Sani) - it can easily bestow you

> > > with all the siddhis - though this not the reason for following

this

> > > marga - siddhi in real sense means accomplishing any and every

task

> > > entrusted.

> > > > 8.Sakhyam - attitude of friendship - Rahu - it is very

> > > elusive and not easy to grasp - The kishora leela is beyond words

- He

> > > can steel and can identify himself as a thief and save his

> > > friends/playmates - In your readiness to play with the Lord you

will

> > > in no time find your heart stolen(Rahu) - the pranks may be

painful -

> > > you may feel cheated - you may start giving new definitions of

> > > dharma!!! -The Lord simply enjoys this game - The Lord likes this

game

> > > of jivatma treating itself on par!!!! - He can treat Kaliya the

> > > dreadly serpent has his friend - For all those persons who have

Rahu

> > > as the Atmakaraka they do not have Ketu in the 12th to give them

> > > moksha - does this mean bad!!?? No, Lords company is far superior

than

> > > liberation that can be thought of. The Lord wilfully plays the

role of

> > > a thief and the jiva is invited to play the role of a police -

Life

> > > itself is made to appear as the hide and seek game. Lord is

extremely

> > > merciful towards the opponent/playmate. He sees to

> > > > it that the playmate wins the game ultimately!!!

> > > > 9.Atmanivedanam - dedicating the life - Ketu - Nothing seems

> > > to be important rather exist without the Lord - From the headless

> > > plunge into the material activities when the illumination dawns to

> > > revert to go back, all the three legs which are folded and kept

close

> > > to the tummy gets the needed energy and the sacred

bull(Nandi)/Pranava

> > > raises up with dharmic vigour to move around majestically as a

career

> > > of Lords breath. The life itself becomes auspicious.

> > > >

> > > > 5th house deals with thithi which is of jala tatwa in

> > > nature. 9th from any house is the protector of that bhava. For 5th

> > > bhava it is the 1st bhava which protects. In other terms it is the

> > > jnana element of the indriya. 5th is tongue - the instrument while

> > > taste is lagna the jnana element of tongue. Lagna is skin while

the

> > > jnana element of the same is 9th bhava which is the sense of

touch.

> > > You may have seen certain Gurus do not allow you touch them as

touch

> > > has direct connection to the dhi sakthi(lagna - seat of

intelligence).

> > > Similar is the case with the 2nd/3rd/4th bhavas. All the

panchangas

> > > can be easily mapped to these houses.

> > > >

> > > > Let me stop here - the mail is already too long.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes.

> > > >

> > > > May Mother Bless.

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > > >

> > > > dheena0104 dheena0104@ wrote: OM NAMASHIWAY

> > > > Dear Guru Ji, Namaskar, Sri Ramnarayanan Ji Namaskar,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for the wonderful information regarding

> > > transformation.

> > > > Please kindly permit us to understand the things better. 5H

> > > is ninth

> > > > house to 9H Vishnu sthana, which means probability for

> > > > transformation is 100% but need some catalyst such as

> > > Vatsalaya rasa

> > > > without knowing what the term Vastalayarasa.mean , I am

> > > unable to

> > > > get the essence amritha.

> > > >

> > > > With respects.

> > > >

> > > > Yours Sincerely,

> > > > S.Dheenadayalan

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa, rama narayanan

> sree88ganesha@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste. 5th house is the most important house in the

> > > chart. 5th

> > > > house is the house of Mantra. 5th house is also the Putra

> > > Bhava.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mata Devaki and Pita Vasudeva were eagerly awaiting the

> > > birth of

> > > > the 8th child - the birth of deliverer - the LORD. Lord

> > > Visnu who is

> > > > residing within the heart of every living entity, appeared

> > > in the

> > > > darkness of night as the Supreme personality of Godhead

> before

> > > > Devaki and Vasudeva. The Lord appeared as a baby with four

> > > hands,

> > > > holding conchshell, club, disc and lotus flower, decorated

> > > with the

> > > > mark of Srivatsa, wearing the jeweled neckalace of Kaustubha

> > > stone,

> > > > dressed in yellow silk, appearing dazzling like a bright

> > > blackish

> > > > cloud, wearing a helmet bedecked with the vaidurya stone,

> > > valuable

> > > > bracelets, earrings, and similar other ornaments all over

> > > his body

> > > > and beautified by an abundance of hair on his head. This

> > > appearance

> > > > was enought to prove to the parents the arrival of the

> Supreme

> > > > force. The Lord in the child spoke that in the millenium of

> > > > Syaayambhuva manu Vasudeva was Prajapati Sutapa and Mother

> > > Devaki

> > > > was Prsni. HE said that HE was born to them during that

> time as

> > > > > Prsnigarbha on account of their prayers and during the

> next

> > > > millennium the parents took birth as Kasyapa and Aditi and

> > > the Lord

> > > > was born to them as Upendra/Vamanadeva. This is the third

> > > time that

> > > > the Lord is fulfilling their wishes and he is being born

> to

> > > them

> > > > KRSNA. The Lord thereafter ordered Vasudeva to carry him to

> > > Gokula

> > > > and exchange him for the daughter of Yasoda who was born

> then.

> > > > Having said thus the Lord turned Himself into an ordinary

> > > child in

> > > > their presence and remained silent.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vasudeva was extremely pleased. As he was about to carry

> > > out the

> > > > orders of the Lord he understood that his hand-cuffs

> were not

> > > > removed. Then how could he do this act!! This thought came

> > > to him

> > > > only for a few seconds. But without hesitation he started to

> > > act as

> > > > per the dictates of the Lord. He moved with the handcuffs

> > > and lifted

> > > > the child and placed to his bosom and to his head. No sooner

> > > he did

> > > > this the handcuffs were removed instantly and the prison

> doors

> > > > opened automatically.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though i am not interesed in philosophising this beautiful

> > > event

> > > > the thought the four-handed Visnu did not remove the

> > > handcuffs of

> > > > Vasudeva but the implicit resolution to do work ordained by

> > > the Lord

> > > > and the act of lifting the baby and placing to the bosom and

> > > to the

> > > > Head removed the handcuffs is fascinating indeed. The

> > > vatsalya rasa

> > > > can break all the fetters of Samsara in no time when one

> > > understands

> > > > Visnu as Krsna and takes him to his heart and to his head.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us come back to Jyotish vidya. From the 9th house of

> > > Narayana

> > > > to 5th house of Krsna the vatsalya rasa transformation is

> > > the need

> > > > of the hour. In the Putra Bhava, Vatsalya ras naturally

> > > flows. From

> > > > the Putra Bhava the Madura ras of Krsna Nama can bring

> about

> > > the

> > > > required enlightenment to the 'dhi' sakthi/lagna)seat of

> > > Prajapati

> > > > (remember Vasudeva was born as one of the Prajapatis

> known as

> > > > Sutapa).

> > > > >

> > > > > i take this opportunity to pray to SriKrsna to gift us all

> > > this

> > > > transformation on this auspicious day of Janma astami.

> > > > >

> > > > > By his birth on Astami thithi the thithi itself gains

> the

> > > Jaya

> > > > Nama/Ghosha. This Jaya thithi removes the ahankara

> negativity

> > > of

> > > > Simha, wrong headless-notions of dharma relating to dhanu

> > > and fear

> > > > attached to Kumbha as per the ghataka principle.

> > > > >

> > > > > HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE

> > > RAMA

> > > > RAMA RAMA HARE HARE.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sarvam Krsnaarpanamasthu.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.

> > >

> >

>

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