Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear , The sutras have of course never to be applied in isolation. But when we want to know the result of a particular placement in isolation then this would be the result shown............ but application of sutra would be finally subject to the other influences,aspects ,and dignities. regards, Bhaskar. Bombay Cell-9323522663 Landline- 022-24330886 Private email - rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com (Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any other way, would be charged.,so before contacting on private id, please be sure to pay the Consultation Fees.) , "Michael Travass" <michael.travass wrote: > > Thank Job. > > I know of this sutra but it doesn't say it is a Putra dosha. > > By the way I have Rahu in the 5th house and have a son. I have a similar > chart of my friend who has a daughter. If we apply the sutras in isolation > it may give wrong results. > > Warm regards, > > Mike > > > > > > [] On > Behalf Of job rodenburg > Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:50 PM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Pitri Shapa - Saturn conjunct nodes > > > > > > > Dear Michael, > > This maybe a futility but for you an unexpected presnt, in case there is a > mistake in the text; Pitra Dosha could be Putra Dosha. In which case the > Dosha goes to children in stead to father. > > Bhrigu Sutram Ch.1 Shl. 51-59: If the Sun is in the fifth house and the Sun > is associated with Rahu or Ketu, there will be loss of children due to curse > of the Serpent god. > > > > Bhrigu Sutram Ch.5 Shl. 24-31: If Jupiter in the fifth house is associated > with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his children on account of > the wrath of Serpent god. > > > > Bhrigu Sutram Ch.8 Shl. 11-13: If Rahu or Ketu are in the fifth house the > native will have no children or suffer loss of children due to wrath of the > Serpent God. He will have children after conducting Pooja of Naga Pratima. > The native will suffer from windy diseases and indulge in sinful deeds. He > will suffer from wrath of the king and will live in undesirable places. > > > > > > > > > _____ > > "Michael Travass" <michael.travass > > <> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Pitri Shapa - Saturn conjunct nodes > Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:24:59 +0100 > > > > > > Ram, > > Can you let me know the source of your statement that Rahu in 5th > constitutes a pitra dosha. > > Regards, > > Mike > > > > > [] On > Behalf Of rbvijay123 > Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:42 PM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Pitri Shapa - Saturn conjunct nodes > > > > || Hare Krishna || > > The Pitra Dosha formed when the placement of Rahu is in 5th Bhava . > It is not necessary that it should conjuct to Rahu or ketu . The > effect of Rahu is same as of Saturn if it is not conjucted with any > planet and Ketu effcet is as of Mars. When Rahu conjucts to Saturn > with in the Orb of 7 degrees either side it will affects the result > of Saturn. Excludung Kal Sarp Dosha the conjuction of Rahu/ Ketu > with saturn is not Pitra Dosha. > > The plcement of raho in 3rd, 6th and 11th House is always aspicious. > I hope the matter might be clear. > > RAM BABU VIJAY > > @ <> , > Twinkle Vijaywargiya > <mrs_vijaywargiya@> wrote: > > > > om gurave namah! > > respected gurus! > > saturn and rahu/ketu conjunction will last for around one and a > half > > years. does this mean that all the people born during such a period > > will have pitri dosha? > > do we have any method to rate the degree of maleficity for such a > > pitri dosha? > > regards > > twinkle > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@> wrote: > > > > > || hare räma kåñna || > > > > > > Dear SK, Namaskar > > > > > > A curse is formed when a planet receives the > > > graha dristi of two malefics - not just a > > > house. So it was because Sri Rama had the Moon > > > and Jupiter in lagna that the dristi of Saturn/Mars gave a > Brahmin > > > Shaapa. > > > > > > Saturn conjunct one of the nodes doesn't > > > constitute a curse, but Pitri Dosha - and if I > > > remember correctly it can mean that the last > > > rites of the mother (1st to 6th houses) or father > > > (7th to 12th) will not be properly performed. > > > > > > I hope that helps, > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:55 26/08/2006, you wrote: > > > >Dear Visti, > > > > > > > >You have mentioned in one of the previous posts that Saturn > > > conjunct > > > >with one of the nodes is an indication of priti shapa. > > > > > > > >Would you please kindly elaborate on that? > > > > > > > >My understanding so far is: Graha Dristi of any two malefic > > > planets > > > >is an indication of curse. So, Saturn+Rahu would indicate 7th > > > house > > > >aspect and thus curse on the 7th house from Saturn+Rahu > position. > > > >Saturn+Ketu should mean Rashu aspect on Saturn house (OR) Saturn > > > >aspect on Rahu house. In this case, which house should indicate > > > the > > > >cause of curse? > > > > > > > >Please clarify if curse should be looked at the house/planet > > > >recieving only the aspect (or) should it also include house > > > >conjoining the malefics? > > > > > > > >For example, in Sri Rama's Chart, the Saturn + mars dristi was > on > > > >lagna indicating curse. However, Saturn dristi was also on 6th > > > house > > > >rahu. If the curse on Lagna was not present, then should 6th > house > > > >also indicate a curse ( Saturn dristi + Rahu present )? > > > > > > > >your guidance is greatly appreciated. > > > >best regards, > > > >SK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > > > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > >the Great who said that the human stomach should > > > >not become a graveyard for animals. > > > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > > reading today > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 || hare räma kåñna || Dear Rafal and Guruji, Namaskar Please let me clarify, so that there is no confusion in understanding. So it is not the number of planets afflicting (greater than two) that determines which is the main curse (this is what I had understood Rafal to be saying), but the one which has the greater links to the AK/lagnesha/astamesha? Thank you, Samir At 12:47 27/08/2006, you wrote: >||Hare Rama Krsna|| >Dear Guys, Namaskar >Really its quite simple to understand. You may >be cursed by a Sage (Guru), but its the >suffering you see from your uncle (Mercury) >which 'feels' the worst, because your AK, >Lagnesh or Astamesh is involved with the curse >of uncle. Hence the reason behind Rafal's statement. >Best wishes, >*** >Visti Larsen >For services and articles visit: ><http://srigaruda.com/>http://srigaruda.com >*** > > > >---------- > >[] On Behalf Of Samir Shah >27 August 2006 11:33 > >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Pitri Shapa - Saturn conjunct nodes > >|| hare räma kåñna || > >Dear Rafal, Namaskar > >Nice to see you on the list! > >This is a new principle to me. Is there some >further reasoning behind this? If I remember >correctly from Vistiji's book, he says the most >benefic planet is the one that indicates the >curse. I also remember Sanjayji saying the most >benefic planet causes the main curse "because a >Saint's curse carries more weight than a loafer". > >Thank you, > >Samir > > > >At 11:26 27/08/2006, you wrote: >>hraum namah adityaya >>Dear Samir, >> >> > >> > [samir] Yes - Sri Rama has a Matri-shaapa and >> > Pitri-shaapa as well. But Jupiter being the most >> > benefic, the Brahmin shaapa was the main one. >> > However, the effects of the other two were also felt. >> >>Actually the main curse is seen by planet which is most afflicted by >>malefics, if its equal then we see most benefic. Here the Surya is >>most afflicted so Pitri-saapa. It has high Jagradi Avastha so it was >>painful. >> >>Regards >>Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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