RE: Pitri Dosha/Shapa/Badhaka (RE: Pitri Shapa -Saturn conjunct nodes)

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Dear Visti ji

 

Namaskar

 

Many thanks for your elaborated clarification. When will these curse / dosha fructify - in Shani / Rahu / Ketu dasha or throughout the life, until necessary remedial measures are performed.

 

I presume, such dosha must then exist in the entire family charts and even when dosha exist - why does the suffering differ from one person to another.. In other words, for the people - who have such dosha / curse - are such natives blessed by divine to carry out dosha pariharya for their ancestors.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The only abnormality is the incapacity to love.

 

 

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> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:03:08 +0200

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> RE: Pitri Dosha/Shapa/Badhaka (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Pitri Shapa

> - Saturn conjunct nodes)

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> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Prafulla, Namaskar

> Yes, they definitely do, and then the problems can manifest at the time

> of

> entering a profession or enjoying raja yoga, like becoming president and

> have people accuse you of all sorts of mischief. See the chart of Bill

> Clinton, where a Vishnu-Raja Yoga is present between Venus (4th lord) and

> Mars (5th lord). This implies that he will have the opportunity to do

> some

> work for the benefit of the entire world (fourth house - vishnu), but the

> curse is also there with Rahu having graha dristi on this Venus - joined

> Mars.

> But, this curse barely touched him, as Venus has low jagradi avastha in

> the

> third house.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

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> On

> Behalf Of Prafulla Gang

> 27 August 2006 11:52

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> RE: Pitri Dosha/Shapa/Badhaka (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Pitri Shapa

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> Saturn conjunct nodes)

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>

>

> Dear Visti ji

>

> Namaskar

>

> Does the shapa / dosha also works, when such shani / mars are yoga graha

> (then by definition, such rahu / ketu for its association with yoga graha

> will become shubha).

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> The only abnormality is the incapacity to love.

>

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>> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <visti%40srigaruda.com> com

>> Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:27:30 +0200

>> @ <%40>

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>> Pitri Dosha/Shapa/Badhaka (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Pitri Shapa -

>> Saturn conjunct nodes)

>>

>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>> Dear Students, Namaskar

>> Some clarification is needed. Dosha is an affliction due to

>> circumstances

>> or

>> sorrow which doens't arise due to evil-deeds, but mistakes and bad

>> lifestyle. If you don't brush your teeth, they will become weak and fall

>> out

>> - this is dosha or weakness/affliction. A shaapa happens if you knock

>> someone elses teeth out - this earns you a shaapa or curse.

>>

>> A Pitri Shaapa happens when the Sun is involved in a curse. I.e.

>> afflicted

>> by two or more malefics. This usually causes suffering to the father or

>> paternal relatives. The problem will specifically come from the house

>> where

>> the Sun is placed. I.e. in the chart of Sri Rama, the Sun is afflicted

>> in

>> the tenth house, and Sri Ramas father had to see the sorrow of his son

>> being

>> exhiled, and not being there at his death-bed. The issue was the

>> kingdom/throne itself which is seen from the tenth house placement of

>> the

>> Sun (in simhasana yoga).

>>

>> A Pitri Dosha happens when the ancestors are unhappy, and occurs when

>> the

>> nodes (spirits/the dead) are joined Saturn, showing the sorrow of the

>> dead

>> afflicting oneself. Should Mars instead join a node, then its the anger

>> of

>> the dead (pisacha dosha). This causes yogas involved with these yogas to

>> be

>> stuck and/or not arise. The life is a constant effort to overcome a debt

>> of

>> sorts.

>> The remedy for the former (shani-node yoga) lies in offering water to

>> the

>> pitris with the Astakshari-Suryaaditya mantra: Om Ghrini SuryaAaditya||

>>

>> Then there is Pitri badhaka, where the native earns the anger or sorrow

>> of

>> their parents in this life itself, and this causes obstacles to their

>> succes. This happens when the Badhaka is associated with the Sun

>> (father)

>> or

>> Moon (mother) as these are ALSO associated with Saturn (sorrow) or Mars

>> (anger) in rasi or navamsa.

>>

>> All these relate to ones ancestors, parents and forefathers, and should

>> not

>> be confused with the word 'Putra' which means children, or 'Preta' which

>> means the dead, or deceased.

>> Best wishes,

>> ***

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>> Behalf Of Samir Shah

>> 27 August 2006 10:03

>> @ <%40>

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>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Pitri Shapa - Saturn conjunct nodes

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>>

>>

>> || hare räma kåñna ||

>>

>> Dear SK, Namaskar

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> 1) Would the curse also be present in case the dristi of two or more

>> malefics on a malefic?

>>

>>

>> [samir] Yes. But the operating curse will be that of the most benefic

>> planet

>> that is thus afflicted.

>>

>>

>>

>> If Saturn is conjunct Rahu, then there is 7th house aspect of these

>> two malefics on Ketu by default. Should Ketu be considered as

>> causing curse then?

>>

>>

>> [samir] Yes. This would be a curse of Naagas/Sadhus.

>>

>>

>>

>> For example: In Sri Rama's chart, the malefic aspects of Saturn and

>> Mars on Sun in 10th house. Would this indicate a curse or not? ( I

>> understand that only one curse will operate in the chart. So, in

>> case no other curses are present, will this cause suffering?)

>>

>>

>> [samir] Yes - Sri Rama has a Matri-shaapa and Pitri-shaapa as well. But

>> Jupiter being the most benefic, the Brahmin shaapa was the main one.

>> However, the effects of the other two were also felt.

>>

>>

>>

>> 2) What if benefic aspects are also present in addition to the

>> malefic aspects? Then would there still be the curse or not?

>>

>>

>> [samir] There would still be a curse. Benefics having graha dristi would

>> have the desire to help, however.

>>

>> I hope that helps,

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>> Samir

 

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