Invasions

[Guest guest]

As we know, India was constantly invaded, first by Turks, Afghanis,

British Frence etc. They(esp Muslims) destroyed most of our culture,

burnt our libraries.

 

But the question is, was it so bad for India? We are still a strong

country, our culture survived, was even made stronger. Sectarianism

was wiped out- earlier Shaiv and Vaishnavs kept fighting with each

other, now they are forced to work together.

 

Westerners, though they didnt burn our temples like Muslims did, did

worse things. They spread teh impression Hinduism is a barbaric

culture, which many of our Indians believe too.

 

But this had a good effect too- it forced Indians to come together,

stop their in fighting, and find the Good points in their culture

rather than fighting over technicalities.

 

So were these invasions Good in the Long term?

[Guest guest]

I think it did have a bad effect, if short term. Most of our books

were burnt, ancient traditions destroyed. Many Indians actively hate

our own culture, and try to discredit it, like the recent case when a

Commuist Leader who said an Indian Yogi was mixing bones in his

medicine. She was found to be lying, but it shows the hatred that

some people have for anything Indian. The Communist(I forgot her name)

attacked Ayurveda and Hinduism, yet there was no anger in the media.

See what would have happened if someone had done same thing for any

other religon.

[Guest guest]

I agree with both of u, but u must remember that this is Kaliyug, and

in general religious and spiritual people will be attacked, humiliated.

 

Laluji, I agree with the points u make. But u must also remember that

we invited these attacks on us. By 10th century AD Hindus had become

very ritualistic, religon had lost its meaning, caste system had

destroyed what little growth there could be. The most popular theory

was that of Maya(Illusionism) that preached the world was fake, and we

should reject it, which meant all the good people left society to goto

Himalayas, and the only ones who were left were ritualists and people

who believed in exploiting lower castes.

 

All this meant the society was falling down, and these invasions were

actually good for us. They reminded us the value of respecting our

society and country, that we cant reject Nature & her ways, but

rather we have to work with her.

 

Of course the Tantrics always believed this, but Tantra had fallen

into disrepute due to the practices of some its members.

 

But Radha, you are wrong in 1 point- nothing is lost. All the

information was easily recovered. Saints like Vivekananda, Yogananda,

Sri Aurobindo etc not only rediscovered all the secret teachings of

the Vedic Rishsis, but updated them for the new century.

 

These saints wrote books, which now anyone in any country can read. No

longer will people have to worry about lack of knowledge of

scriptures. All people have to worry about is putting the knowledge

into practice.

[Guest guest]

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

 

"No longer will people have to worry about lack of knowledge of

scriptures. All people have to worry about is putting the knowledge

into practice."

 

And that my dear sir, is the problem.

[Guest guest]

Hindus are to be blamed for all attrocities done on them. Hindus

are the most coward, hypocrite, cheaters and divided among

themselves.

 

what all greatness of hindus you people write, are no-where seen

practicaly.

 

I think in 100 years or so hinduism will remain in books.

 

 

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> I agree with both of u, but u must remember that this is Kaliyug,

and

> in general religious and spiritual people will be attacked,

humiliated.

>

> Laluji, I agree with the points u make. But u must also remember

that

> we invited these attacks on us. By 10th century AD Hindus had

become

> very ritualistic, religon had lost its meaning, caste system had

> destroyed what little growth there could be. The most popular

theory

> was that of Maya(Illusionism) that preached the world was fake,

and we

> should reject it, which meant all the good people left society to

goto

> Himalayas, and the only ones who were left were ritualists and

people

> who believed in exploiting lower castes.

>

> All this meant the society was falling down, and these invasions

were

> actually good for us. They reminded us the value of respecting our

> society and country, that we cant reject Nature & her ways, but

> rather we have to work with her.

>

> Of course the Tantrics always believed this, but Tantra had fallen

> into disrepute due to the practices of some its members.

>

> But Radha, you are wrong in 1 point- nothing is lost. All the

> information was easily recovered. Saints like Vivekananda,

Yogananda,

> Sri Aurobindo etc not only rediscovered all the secret teachings of

> the Vedic Rishsis, but updated them for the new century.

>

> These saints wrote books, which now anyone in any country can

read. No

> longer will people have to worry about lack of knowledge of

> scriptures. All people have to worry about is putting the knowledge

> into practice.

>

[Guest guest]

Wo ho ho! Somebodys angry at Hindus! Hindus are cowards? Is it we whon

invaded other countries and butchered their people and raped their

women? And all religons are divided- Catholic and Protestant, Sunni

and Shia etc.

 

Madam, Hinduism has survived for thousands years, and it will survive

for 1000s more.

 

You say you cant see greatness of Hindu people? Hindus like

Vivekananda, Yogananda, Sri Aurobindo have impresses the whole World.

Everyone has heard of Yoga, Ayurveda, etc.

 

If u still cant see any greatness, maybe the problem is with you?

[Guest guest]

Maiytreeji, there are almost 1 billion Hindus in the World. Do you

think they will suddenly die out, or be kidnapped by Aliens, because

that is the only way I think Hinduism will vanish in 100 years!

 

You say that you dont see any greatness in Hindu people. Thats like

saying you cant see God. People who see God see him everywhere, while

those who dont find all sort of excuses not to see Him.

 

Similarly, one can say it is must a Great Culture and Great Nation

that could survive so many disasters, attacks, humiliations, and

still keep their own culture intact, and refuse to be bullied down. Or

one could blame us for inviting our own problems, like you do, but

this to me like saying that a rape victim invited her troubles, that

her attackers are innocent.

 

Radha

[Guest guest]

I don't agree with your statement Maitrayee....

 

 

> Hindus are to be blamed for all attrocities done on them. Hindus

> are the most coward, hypocrite, cheaters and divided among

> themselves.

 

Are you telling me Shaheed Bhagat Singh, Chandrashekhar Azad, Mahtma

Gandhi, Mangal Pandey, etc are all cowards? HIndus only fight when

there is a valid cause, not just to propagate their religion or

politics, like some other cultures do.

 

> what all greatness of hindus you people write, are no-where seen

> practicaly.

 

The foremost greatness is that hindus don't believe that they are

better compared to other religion followers. Hinduism doesn't preach

that just because you belong to a particular religion, you would have

certain benefits in this life, or even after life. Hindus accept all

other religions.

 

 

> I think in 100 years or so hinduism will remain in books.

 

Hinduism will only remain in books for people like you only.

 

HInduism books are great source of knowledge, try reading some one

day. It might help you become a better human being.

[Guest guest]

You are all living in a dream world. Hinduism died a long time ago,

and only its zombie is walking. Maitree is right, and she is being attacked for speaking the truth, like brave people usually are.

 

Koolkanya, why dont you try reading some books, try reading other

religons books too, you will find that they are same things as us, but

in better and less violent terms.

 

Shanracer, Hinduism is still a ritualistic religon, goto temples and

pray, and you will get Moksha. What else do you mean by rituals?

 

Radha, nobidy has to kidnap the Hindus, least of all aliens, as most

Hindus as alredy dead. Maybe aliens kidnapped your brain if you think

Ayurveda is a science....

[Guest guest]

Tatwamasiji, Going to Temples is not ritualism, Christians and Muslims

goto Church and Mosque too, so does that mean they are ritualistic too?

 

And you dont believe in Ayurveda? Many of the modern Medicines are

based on Herbs, a fact ancient Rishis knew 1000's years ago, and

modern science is still not perfect about.

[Guest guest]

Lets stop this discussion here. Its obvious everyone has their strong

views, and wont change them no matter what. The majority of the people

in this club are dead, its too much bother for them to post anyrhing,

which means only the people with strongest views express their opinion.

 

Let's move on.