RE: Fates hang on new planets 20/8 Yama has....

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Prafulla,

just like how rahu did not get a week day but a 90 min Rahu kala daily and so does YAMA gets 2 starts Bharini, Kritika, no auspicious event, journey must be done will fail or bring death distruction, losses/litigations. each star has a adhi devatha, prayarthi devatha where the other things u asked come, I can ask Pt Arjun to expand on this. ICAS conducts discussion on these in weekly sessions.

 

Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji

I never said that we should not use western principles. I think, your message applies to more, who are rigid for vedic origin of astrology.

Which lordship you assign to Gulika, Mandi Yama etc !!

regards / Prafulla Gang

Every exit is an entry somewhere.

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> rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com

> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:42:25 -0000

>

> Re: Fates hang on new planets

>

> Your smartness is that You always hint. And leave the reader to

> explain or answer your hint as if some grave crime is commited by the

> reader or any system he prefers or uses but not advocates.

> Western principles I do not think have been imported in totality by

> anyone in India, maybe few techniques improvised. If anything

> thing goes abroad from India, and is improvised there and again

> taken from there and brought back to India and again improvised,

> then what is the harm ?

> If people like You and me spend our time arguing with each other than

> naturally foreigners will take away our assets and we will have to

> bring it back from there which would now come in a improvised manner,

> and which we would still improve to suit Indian conditions. So no

> harm there.

>

> Importing western principles in KP or others , how can You first

> say that these did not go to West from India, first prove that ?

>

> The outer planets, we will listen to You and put it in the syllabus

> of all astrology schools in India. But as I mentioned in previous

> mail to You, which House Lordships would You give them and where

> would they fit in Dasha schemes and what number of years would You

> allot them ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

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>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> I did not post the question. I tried to hint that - western

> principles are already there, in so called "vedic" techniques. So

> when purity is already improvised by import of principles from

> western jyotish in KP ( and few others), why not outer planets.

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Every exit is an entry somewhere.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> rajiventerprises

>>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:05:47 -0000

>>>

>>> Re: Fates hang on new planets

>>>

>>> Prafulla Bhai,

>>>

>>> I did not understand that statement. Can You put the question in

>>> details with supporting data ? so that I can work on the answer,

>>> cause I dont know from which point to start answering You.

>>>

>>> regards/Bhaskar.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> \, Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Has KP not synthesised western principles !!

>>>>

>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>

>>>> Every exit is an entry somewhere.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> rajiventerprises@

>>>>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:27:42 -0000

>>>>>

>>>>> Re: Fates hang on new planets

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Prafullaji.

>>>>>

>>>>> If You can remind me after a fortnight or so, I can put up all

>>>>> information (Predective- and not essays on general

>>> characteristics) )

>>>>> required and necessary about these planets for those interested,

>>>>> though I personally do not use these while predicting.

>>>>> You will find interesting mention of Uranus and Neptune

>>>>> therein to Astrologers-abilities and also psycho eruptions

>>>>> and mood variations in individuals plus total dissolution and

>>> again

>>>>> regeneration with reference to Pluto being placed on sensitive

>>>>> points.

>>>>>

>>>>> regards,

>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear members

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am sure, on our forum - few members must be with western

>>>>> astrology background. I request them to present brief notes on

>>> these

>>>>> outer planets and their interpretation model for mundane as well

>>>>> individual charts.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If you seat yourself next to someone instead of opposite them,

>>> then

>>>>> the tables will never seem to turn.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> rajiventerprises@

>>>>>>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:02:59 -0000

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Re: Fates hang on new planets

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> No one living today should have the audacity or authenticity

>>>>> atleast

>>>>>>> in India to suggest, that it will take 30 years for the

> changes

>>> to

>>>>>>> effect in a mans life due to these 3 planets, neither can any

>>> one

>>>>>>> say that for the moment keep the horoscope same as it is.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Because by suggesting above it is implied that they know

> better

>>>>> than

>>>>>>> our Rishi Munis , and also it implies that they have extra

>>>>> terrestial

>>>>>>> knowledge to say that the effects would manifest in 30 years

>>> time,

>>>>>>> in human beings.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Also the mail has mentioned that and accepted that these

> planets

>>>>> have

>>>>>>> been in existence for long, so how come NOW we can see the

>>> effects

>>>>>>> and not before ? Or in Future how can we see ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> All this talk is hum bug and waste of time. Not just three as

>>>>> science

>>>>>>> advances we shall be witnessing more and more bodies in space

>>>>> through

>>>>>>> better telescopes, satellites and space photography, or by

>>>>>>> visiting space ships and astronauts.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> But we have been succesful with these nine planets, and dont

>>>>>>> see any reason to add further in our studies of

>>>>>>> prognostications.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> First of all, to add any further planet, we have to first

> prove

>>>>>>> that, these nine planets are not capable of giving us desired

>>>>>>> results. Can anyone prove this ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> , "prasanna"

>>>>>>> <wildflower2004@> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Deluged with calls, astrologers have asked people to stay

> calm,

>>>>>>> adding

>>>>>>>> that an immediate change in horoscopes is not required

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The likely addition of three new planets to our solar system

> is

>>>>>>> creating

>>>>>>>> chaos for astrologers, who are being bombarded with calls

> from

>>>>>>> people

>>>>>>>> enquiring about the status of their birth charts. While

>>>>> astrologers

>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>> using this discovery to explain extreme climate changes

> around

>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> world, the common man is more concerned about his own fate.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Some astrologers are having an "A ha!" moment, blaming the

>>> three

>>>>>>>> planets for natural disasters from the Tsunami to floods to

>>>>> drought.

>>>>>>>> But, perhaps to stem rising panic among their clients and the

>>>>>>> public or

>>>>>>>> because they genuinely cannot yet gauge the impact, they are

>>>>> quick

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> add that these planets will have little effect on human

> lives.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Astro-scientist, Ravi Kumar, whose phone has been ringing

> non-

>>>>> stop

>>>>>>> since

>>>>>>>> the announcement of the new planets, says, "It has become a

>>>>> cause of

>>>>>>>> concern for most and I have had calls about it from people

> both

>>>>> in

>>>>>>> India

>>>>>>>> and abroad. The three new planets will definitely bring

> changes

>>>>> in

>>>>>>>> astrological calculations and significant changes will also

>>>>> appear

>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>> the climatic conditions. This will in turn affect our health

>>>>>>>> conditions."

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> However he is not recommending any changes to charts and

>>>>> horoscopes

>>>>>>> at

>>>>>>>> the moment. Asked why he prefers to maintain the status quo

> and

>>>>> he

>>>>>>> says,

>>>>>>>> "The planets were already in existence but since we were

>>>>> following

>>>>>>>> the old pattern, we didn't factor in these new planets while

>>>>> making

>>>>>>>> the horoscopes. Ancient sages like Mahamuni and Jaimuni who

>>>>>>> discovered

>>>>>>>> the science of astrology followed the old pattern of the nine

>>>>>>> planets

>>>>>>>> and they must have a reason for it."

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Rakesh Agarwal is one person who doesn't plan to take any

>>>>> chances.

>>>>>>>> His wedding was recently fixed for next year and now he is

> in a

>>>>>>> fix. He

>>>>>>>> plans to find out if the woman he has chosen to be his life

>>>>> partner

>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>> still be an ideal spouse. She too is in agreement. "I do not

>>>>> want to

>>>>>>>> be stuck in a bad relationship and neither does her family

> want

>>>>> her

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> be unhappy. So, we are making new birth chakras and

> consulting

>>>>> our

>>>>>>>> astrologer in a week's time to find out the results," he

> says.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> While astrologers are likely to see a mad rush in coming

> weeks

>>> to

>>>>>>>> re-make horoscopes and re-read fortunes by everyone from

>>>>>>> politicians to

>>>>>>>> movie stars, astrologer Gopal Krishna Murthy urges calm and

>>> says

>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>> changes in the horoscopes are not required immediately.

> Echoing

>>>>> Ravi

>>>>>>>> Kumar, he says "The three planets will affect the solar

> family

>>>>> and

>>>>>>>> bring about a lot of weather changes. They are more likely to

>>>>>>> affect the

>>>>>>>> Earth rather than individuals. It will take about 30 more

> years

>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>> the planetary change affect people's lives."

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Courtsey : Deccan.com

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Prasanna Kumar

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> /

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