Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Prafulla, not all have accepted KP system , same way outer planets , those who don;t acceot the KP system will surely not accept trans saturine planets.. when people r using KP syste, successfully with ramans and other ayanamsas other than KP, anying can work, for sharp effects, readings vedic is way ahead under qualified people.[by qualified I mean well versed inte books and rich experience and simple, humane lifestyle]. Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: I did not post the question. I tried to hint that - western principles are already there, in so called "vedic" techniques. So when purity is already improvised by import of principles from western jyotish in KP ( and few others), why not outer planets. regards / Prafulla Gang Every exit is an entry somewhere. > > rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com > Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:05:47 -0000 > > Re: Fates hang on new planets > > Prafulla Bhai, > > I did not understand that statement. Can You put the question in > details with supporting data ? so that I can work on the answer, > cause I dont know from which point to start answering You. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > \, Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Has KP not synthesised western principles !! >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Every exit is an entry somewhere. >> >> >>> >>> rajiventerprises >>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:27:42 -0000 >>> >>> Re: Fates hang on new planets >>> >>> Dear Prafullaji. >>> >>> If You can remind me after a fortnight or so, I can put up all >>> information (Predective- and not essays on general > characteristics) ) >>> required and necessary about these planets for those interested, >>> though I personally do not use these while predicting. >>> You will find interesting mention of Uranus and Neptune >>> therein to Astrologers-abilities and also psycho eruptions >>> and mood variations in individuals plus total dissolution and > again >>> regeneration with reference to Pluto being placed on sensitive >>> points. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear members >>>> >>>> I am sure, on our forum - few members must be with western >>> astrology background. I request them to present brief notes on > these >>> outer planets and their interpretation model for mundane as well >>> individual charts. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> If you seat yourself next to someone instead of opposite them, > then >>> the tables will never seem to turn. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> rajiventerprises@ >>>>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:02:59 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: Fates hang on new planets >>>>> >>>>> Dear, >>>>> >>>>> No one living today should have the audacity or authenticity >>> atleast >>>>> in India to suggest, that it will take 30 years for the changes > to >>>>> effect in a mans life due to these 3 planets, neither can any > one >>>>> say that for the moment keep the horoscope same as it is. >>>>> >>>>> Because by suggesting above it is implied that they know better >>> than >>>>> our Rishi Munis , and also it implies that they have extra >>> terrestial >>>>> knowledge to say that the effects would manifest in 30 years > time, >>>>> in human beings. >>>>> >>>>> Also the mail has mentioned that and accepted that these planets >>> have >>>>> been in existence for long, so how come NOW we can see the > effects >>>>> and not before ? Or in Future how can we see ? >>>>> >>>>> All this talk is hum bug and waste of time. Not just three as >>> science >>>>> advances we shall be witnessing more and more bodies in space >>> through >>>>> better telescopes, satellites and space photography, or by >>>>> visiting space ships and astronauts. >>>>> >>>>> But we have been succesful with these nine planets, and dont >>>>> see any reason to add further in our studies of >>>>> prognostications. >>>>> >>>>> First of all, to add any further planet, we have to first prove >>>>> that, these nine planets are not capable of giving us desired >>>>> results. Can anyone prove this ? >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , "prasanna" >>>>> <wildflower2004@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Deluged with calls, astrologers have asked people to stay calm, >>>>> adding >>>>>> that an immediate change in horoscopes is not required >>>>>> >>>>>> The likely addition of three new planets to our solar system is >>>>> creating >>>>>> chaos for astrologers, who are being bombarded with calls from >>>>> people >>>>>> enquiring about the status of their birth charts. While >>> astrologers >>>>> are >>>>>> using this discovery to explain extreme climate changes around >>> the >>>>>> world, the common man is more concerned about his own fate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some astrologers are having an "A ha!" moment, blaming the > three >>>>>> planets for natural disasters from the Tsunami to floods to >>> drought. >>>>>> But, perhaps to stem rising panic among their clients and the >>>>> public or >>>>>> because they genuinely cannot yet gauge the impact, they are >>> quick >>>>> to >>>>>> add that these planets will have little effect on human lives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Astro-scientist, Ravi Kumar, whose phone has been ringing non- >>> stop >>>>> since >>>>>> the announcement of the new planets, says, "It has become a >>> cause of >>>>>> concern for most and I have had calls about it from people both >>> in >>>>> India >>>>>> and abroad. The three new planets will definitely bring changes >>> in >>>>>> astrological calculations and significant changes will also >>> appear >>>>> in >>>>>> the climatic conditions. This will in turn affect our health >>>>>> conditions." >>>>>> >>>>>> However he is not recommending any changes to charts and >>> horoscopes >>>>> at >>>>>> the moment. Asked why he prefers to maintain the status quo and >>> he >>>>> says, >>>>>> "The planets were already in existence but since we were >>> following >>>>>> the old pattern, we didn't factor in these new planets while >>> making >>>>>> the horoscopes. Ancient sages like Mahamuni and Jaimuni who >>>>> discovered >>>>>> the science of astrology followed the old pattern of the nine >>>>> planets >>>>>> and they must have a reason for it." >>>>>> >>>>>> Rakesh Agarwal is one person who doesn't plan to take any >>> chances. >>>>>> His wedding was recently fixed for next year and now he is in a >>>>> fix. He >>>>>> plans to find out if the woman he has chosen to be his life >>> partner >>>>> will >>>>>> still be an ideal spouse. She too is in agreement. "I do not >>> want to >>>>>> be stuck in a bad relationship and neither does her family want >>> her >>>>> to >>>>>> be unhappy. So, we are making new birth chakras and consulting >>> our >>>>>> astrologer in a week's time to find out the results," he says. >>>>>> >>>>>> While astrologers are likely to see a mad rush in coming weeks > to >>>>>> re-make horoscopes and re-read fortunes by everyone from >>>>> politicians to >>>>>> movie stars, astrologer Gopal Krishna Murthy urges calm and > says >>>>> that >>>>>> changes in the horoscopes are not required immediately. Echoing >>> Ravi >>>>>> Kumar, he says "The three planets will affect the solar family >>> and >>>>>> bring about a lot of weather changes. They are more likely to >>>>> affect the >>>>>> Earth rather than individuals. It will take about 30 more years >>>>> before >>>>>> the planetary change affect people's lives." >>>>>> >>>>>> Courtsey : Deccan.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Prasanna Kumar >>>>>> >>>>>> / >>>>>> </> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I agree. Each one will have its blend of methods and applications thereof. regards / Prafulla Gang Every exit is an entry somewhere. > > gbp_kumar > Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:52:05 -0700 (PDT) > > RE: Re: Fates hang on new planets 20/2 > > Prafulla, > not all have accepted KP system , same way outer planets , those who > don;t acceot the KP system will surely not accept trans saturine > planets.. when people r using KP syste, successfully with ramans and > other ayanamsas other than KP, anying can work, for sharp effects, > readings vedic is way ahead under qualified people.[by qualified I mean > well versed inte books and rich experience and simple, humane > lifestyle]. > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > I did not post the question. I tried to hint that - western principles > are already there, in so called "vedic" techniques. So when purity is > already improvised by import of principles from western jyotish in KP ( > and few others), why not outer planets. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Every exit is an entry somewhere. > > > > > rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com > > Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:05:47 -0000 > > > > Re: Fates hang on new planets > > > > Prafulla Bhai, > > > > I did not understand that statement. Can You put the question in > > details with supporting data ? so that I can work on the answer, > > cause I dont know from which point to start answering You. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > \, Prafulla Gang <jyotish > > wrote: > >> > >> Has KP not synthesised western principles !! > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Every exit is an entry somewhere. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> rajiventerprises > >>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:27:42 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: Fates hang on new planets > >>> > >>> Dear Prafullaji. > >>> > >>> If You can remind me after a fortnight or so, I can put up all > >>> information (Predective- and not essays on general > > characteristics) ) > >>> required and necessary about these planets for those interested, > >>> though I personally do not use these while predicting. > >>> You will find interesting mention of Uranus and Neptune > >>> therein to Astrologers-abilities and also psycho eruptions > >>> and mood variations in individuals plus total dissolution and > > again > >>> regeneration with reference to Pluto being placed on sensitive > >>> points. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear members > >>>> > >>>> I am sure, on our forum - few members must be with western > >>> astrology background. I request them to present brief notes on > > these > >>> outer planets and their interpretation model for mundane as well > >>> individual charts. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> If you seat yourself next to someone instead of opposite them, > > then > >>> the tables will never seem to turn. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> rajiventerprises@ > >>>>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:02:59 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: Fates hang on new planets > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear, > >>>>> > >>>>> No one living today should have the audacity or authenticity > >>> atleast > >>>>> in India to suggest, that it will take 30 years for the changes > > to > >>>>> effect in a mans life due to these 3 planets, neither can any > > one > >>>>> say that for the moment keep the horoscope same as it is. > >>>>> > >>>>> Because by suggesting above it is implied that they know better > >>> than > >>>>> our Rishi Munis , and also it implies that they have extra > >>> terrestial > >>>>> knowledge to say that the effects would manifest in 30 years > > time, > >>>>> in human beings. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also the mail has mentioned that and accepted that these planets > >>> have > >>>>> been in existence for long, so how come NOW we can see the > > effects > >>>>> and not before ? Or in Future how can we see ? > >>>>> > >>>>> All this talk is hum bug and waste of time. Not just three as > >>> science > >>>>> advances we shall be witnessing more and more bodies in space > >>> through > >>>>> better telescopes, satellites and space photography, or by > >>>>> visiting space ships and astronauts. > >>>>> > >>>>> But we have been succesful with these nine planets, and dont > >>>>> see any reason to add further in our studies of > >>>>> prognostications. > >>>>> > >>>>> First of all, to add any further planet, we have to first prove > >>>>> that, these nine planets are not capable of giving us desired > >>>>> results. Can anyone prove this ? > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , "prasanna" > >>>>> <wildflower2004@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Deluged with calls, astrologers have asked people to stay calm, > >>>>> adding > >>>>>> that an immediate change in horoscopes is not required > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The likely addition of three new planets to our solar system is > >>>>> creating > >>>>>> chaos for astrologers, who are being bombarded with calls from > >>>>> people > >>>>>> enquiring about the status of their birth charts. While > >>> astrologers > >>>>> are > >>>>>> using this discovery to explain extreme climate changes around > >>> the > >>>>>> world, the common man is more concerned about his own fate. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Some astrologers are having an "A ha!" moment, blaming the > > three > >>>>>> planets for natural disasters from the Tsunami to floods to > >>> drought. > >>>>>> But, perhaps to stem rising panic among their clients and the > >>>>> public or > >>>>>> because they genuinely cannot yet gauge the impact, they are > >>> quick > >>>>> to > >>>>>> add that these planets will have little effect on human lives. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Astro-scientist, Ravi Kumar, whose phone has been ringing non- > >>> stop > >>>>> since > >>>>>> the announcement of the new planets, says, "It has become a > >>> cause of > >>>>>> concern for most and I have had calls about it from people both > >>> in > >>>>> India > >>>>>> and abroad. The three new planets will definitely bring changes > >>> in > >>>>>> astrological calculations and significant changes will also > >>> appear > >>>>> in > >>>>>> the climatic conditions. This will in turn affect our health > >>>>>> conditions." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However he is not recommending any changes to charts and > >>> horoscopes > >>>>> at > >>>>>> the moment. Asked why he prefers to maintain the status quo and > >>> he > >>>>> says, > >>>>>> "The planets were already in existence but since we were > >>> following > >>>>>> the old pattern, we didn't factor in these new planets while > >>> making > >>>>>> the horoscopes. Ancient sages like Mahamuni and Jaimuni who > >>>>> discovered > >>>>>> the science of astrology followed the old pattern of the nine > >>>>> planets > >>>>>> and they must have a reason for it." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rakesh Agarwal is one person who doesn't plan to take any > >>> chances. > >>>>>> His wedding was recently fixed for next year and now he is in a > >>>>> fix. He > >>>>>> plans to find out if the woman he has chosen to be his life > >>> partner > >>>>> will > >>>>>> still be an ideal spouse. She too is in agreement. "I do not > >>> want to > >>>>>> be stuck in a bad relationship and neither does her family want > >>> her > >>>>> to > >>>>>> be unhappy. So, we are making new birth chakras and consulting > >>> our > >>>>>> astrologer in a week's time to find out the results," he says. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> While astrologers are likely to see a mad rush in coming weeks > > to > >>>>>> re-make horoscopes and re-read fortunes by everyone from > >>>>> politicians to > >>>>>> movie stars, astrologer Gopal Krishna Murthy urges calm and > > says > >>>>> that > >>>>>> changes in the horoscopes are not required immediately. Echoing > >>> Ravi > >>>>>> Kumar, he says "The three planets will affect the solar family > >>> and > >>>>>> bring about a lot of weather changes. They are more likely to > >>>>> affect the > >>>>>> Earth rather than individuals. It will take about 30 more years > >>>>> before > >>>>>> the planetary change affect people's lives." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Courtsey : Deccan.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Prasanna Kumar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> / > >>>>>> </> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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