ANGREJON KI NAKAL- 19/8 Hindi mein kam...

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Bhaskar

please do reduce ur Hindi content, I am not against it but if u put the same in english there numerous non Hindi speaking can relish it better

muje Hindhi se kuch shikayat nahein sirf fikar hai sab longen ka, jinhen Hindi nahin aate, uske ke maza lene ke likya ANGRAZ behethear hai.

English will help all readers

I had once protested on a person using a tamil sound cochara for gochara as we must follow what is commonly understood, some Hindi fine once in a while but if u want all to enjoy it ENGLISH is the way.

no offensemeant.

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com> wrote: Shri Prafulla Bhai,

ek taraf kehte ho ke mujhe knowledge nahin hai jyada, na toh

predictive abilities hai, toh Bhai Sahaab phir kyon itna bahaas karte

ho har cheez mein ?

Knowledge use karna nahin chahte constructive purpose mein ., sirf

jiske paas hai thoda bahut uska bhi bheja kharab kardoge,

apni bahaas se.

You can predict, I know that but Your knowledge is wasted in wasting

everyones time. Lets see the productive side of Your knowledge, which

would be welcome any day.

aapko jawab dete dete dimaag khali ho jaata hai my Sir. aapke

mails ki ham daad dete hain. Dhoond dhoondh kar points nikalte ho

aur phir use Narad Muni ki tarah chod dete ho, taaki sab mein bahas

chid jaye.

Khair maja aata hai aapke mails mein. Sach baat hai, aapke wajah seh

aur aap jaise logon seh yeh Forum mein thodi jaan lagti hai,

thodi jinda dili aur kuch baat bhi ho jaati hai.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> I do not have much knowledge or predictive abilities - but while

having lots of discussions with many good astrologers (local ones) -

I am always told that - predictive success comes from 8th house.

>

> Yes, i agree analytical skills comes from 5th; Jupiter has bigger

role too - but it is venus, who too is great in terms of more

secretive skills (even compared to guru). 2nd house is speech

too...guru in 8th blesses native for positive predictions; and saturn

in 8th for negative predictions.

>

> Analytical skills are good enough, only until learning

astrology..for prediction - it is delivery of reading !!!

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life

be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

>

>

> >

> > rajiventerprises

> > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:21 -0000

> >

> > Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> >

> > My Dear Boss,

> >

> > Apne ko kisko astrologer banana hai ? Bana do- usko-agar

> > sach bolta hai jab mooh kholta hai. Kya karna hai 8th house

> > or 5th or analytical skills ko ? Is Forum mein toh aise

> > bhi kitne members hain jo predict karte hain? ek aur sahi.

> > Senior logon ka kaam bach jayega toh hum unko paas jaake

> > seekhenge unke spare time mein unke charnon mein baithkar.

> >

> > By the way if You know Shri Sanjay Rathiji personally then please

> > ask him is comments on 5th house and Jupiters aspect on same for

> > prediction purpose.

> >

> > I do not know really know how come 8th Lord will figure in giving

> > good predictions.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> sir

> >>

> >> correct prediction can be given, even without knowing astrology -

> > one needs very strong 8th house.

> >>

> >> Successful astrologer will require good 8th house / lords; 5th

> > house can give good analytical skils - not necessarily good

predictor.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't

life

> > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> rajiventerprises@

> >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:46:54 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> >>>

> >>> For various Dashas rules have been given, which one to use as

per

> > the

> >>> strong planet in Horoscope. Vimsottary has been widely accepted

to

> >>> fit in all cases mostly,the lack of knowledge of other dashas

and

> >>> their utility for individual horoscopes may be one of the

factores

> >>> for all of them not being used. We have to be thankful to these

> >>> great people for having given us so many options to choose.

> > Asregards

> >>> to question marks, we can question any thing on earth and above,

> > the

> >>> Tajmahal also can be commented by critics for certain flaws as

per

> >>> ones views and so can the Moon above too.

> >>> As long as the purpose is being solved and people are being

> > helped to

> >>> lead better lives , I dont look for question marks.

> >>> Who has the time to stand and care or stare ?

> >>> Lets do something constructive like the little squirrel helping

> >>> Lord Rama built a bridge on his great Mission.

> >>>

> >>> regards,

> >>> Bhaskar.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> In dasha system - except Vimshottari - not necessarily all

> > planets

> >>> are considered !!! Application of Vimshottari dasha is also a

big

> >>> question mark - and Parashar referred so many conditional

> > dashas !!

> >>>>

> >>>> Why can not we use them like western astrologers are doing

> >>> (including aspects / progression etc).

> >>>>

> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>

> >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't

> > life

> >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> rajiventerprises@

> >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:23:20 -0000

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> >>>>>

> >>>>> KP System as You understand it, and as is commonly understood

is

> >>>>> seperate ,which is in fact not.

> >>>>> How do we check the Dasha at time of birth ?

> >>>>> By checking what Nakshatra Moon is in . Is it not ?

> >>>>> Suppose Moon is in Sagiitarius 8 degrees 28"

> >>>>> The Nakshatra would be Moola, the Lord would be Ketu.

> >>>>> So the person/child is born in Ketus Maha Dasha , Is it not ?

> >>>>> How would You check the antar Dasha.

> >>>>> Check the Sub lord. What is it ? Jupiter.

> >>>>> Then You will write in Janmapatri Ketu Maha Dasha ,

> >>>>> and Guru antar at childs birth.

> >>>>> So the Sub lord is nothing but.........

> >>>>>

> >>>>> How to use this Sub Lord is the key to KP system .

> >>>>> This is not a deviation from the Vedic system but

> >>>>> perfecting a particular aspect by dedication.

> >>>>> Why should we be biased if someone has perfected it ?

> >>>>> We should be respectful towards these great people Shri BV

> > Raman,

> >>>>> and Sri KrishnaMurthy who have given us this heritage .

> >>>>>

> >>>>> KP is nothing but cream taken out from the same milk.....

> >>>>> just like Jaimini is nothing but again cream taken out with a

> >>>>> diffrent flavour from the same milk......

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> KP has no reference in vedas, neither will Shri Sanjay Rath

have

> >>>>> neither does Shri BV Raman have, but these are masters, we are

> >>>>> following what they have understood from the Vedas itself and

> > not

> >>> out

> >>>>> of air .

> >>>>>

> >>>>> There is no harm in considering Pluto also for mass

destructions

> >>> etc.

> >>>>> but pray tell me where would You put Pluto, Neptune and

Herschel

> >>> in

> >>>>> the Dasha system and how many years would You allot it ?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> regards,

> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> - In , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> >>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> If I remember, MC Jain - in his case studies has used all

three

> >>>>> outer planets for mundane charts and for seeing unnatural

> > deaths /

> >>>>> fatal accidents / assasinations etc.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> What is wrong is considering, if it adds another parameter to

> >>>>> jyotish. Are we not following KP sublord, which has no

reference

> >>> in

> >>>>> vedas ?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't

> >>> life

> >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> gbp_kumar@

> >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:47:01 -0700 (PDT)

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Ganesh

> >>>>>>> good post,

> >>>>>>> Veda vyasa in Maha Bharatha is said to have discribed

> > Uranus,

> >>>>> Neptune

> >>>>>>> to the precise point can be wored back words for thos who

want

> >>>>> to, thei

> >>>>>>> color, composition etc and said they have ni impact on human

> >>>>> affairs.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> this adds more weight to veda vyasa's point.whichhe said

at

> >>>>> least over

> >>>>>>> 5000 yrs ago.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >>>>>>> Dear all,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Good attributes like Law n Order, Discipline, commitment

to

> >>>>> ones work,

> >>>>>>> respectful hireaarchy etc, which can be copied from small

or

> >>> big

> >>>>>>> from enemy or friends,from domestic or phoren is

acceptable

> >>> and

> >>>>> good

> >>>>>>> too for ones progress, but what happens when one copies in

> >>>>> matters

> >>>>>>> where our Rishi Munis already have had their say is best

> > given

> >>>>> below.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> ASTRONOMERS - PLUTO is not a Planet.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> A panel appointed by the International Astronomical Union

> > has

> >>>>> come up

> >>>>>>> with a compromise to the years-long struggle over whether

we

> >>>>> should

> >>>>>>> continue to count Pluto as a Planet.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> It is felt that it would be better to expel Pluto from the

> >>>>> planetary

> >>>>>>> Ranks altogether since it is far smaller than what it was

> >>> first

> >>>>>>> thought to be. Further its orbit is more eplitical and is

> >>>>> tilted in a

> >>>>>>> different plane than those of the other planets.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Now the panel has come up with a new definition of the

word

> >>>>> planet :

> >>>>>>> any celestial body that orbits around a star and is large

> >>>>> enough for

> >>>>>>> its own gravity to pull into a spherical shape. Pluto

would

> >>>>> hence be

> >>>>>>> shunted into a new category called Plutons, which would

> >>> include

> >>>>> any

> >>>>>>> object that meets the definition of a planet and has an

> > orbit

> >>>>> beyond

> >>>>>>> Neptunes.

> >>>>>>> - The New York Times.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> You may also check " The Guardian" which has an article on

> > the

> >>>>> above

> >>>>>>> on net.I dont have the link.The Guardian papers comments

are

> >>>>> more

> >>>>>>> strong on this issue.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Now In India when we have started using Neptune,Pluto and

> >>>>> Herschel

> >>>>>>> after the foreigners started doing this,

> >>>>>>> again all these may have to be removed from Indias top

> >>>>> Astrological

> >>>>>>> institutions, I mean reference of Pluto and hope in time

to

> >>>>> come also

> >>>>>>> Herschel and Neptune.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> If we had stuck to the 7+2 Planets before hand ,it would

> > have

> >>>>> been

> >>>>>>> more

> >>>>>>> respectable.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> But its great to know that after thousands of years also

> >>>>> whatever is

> >>>>>>> mentioned in the Vedas, all is one by one,time to time

> >>>>> discovered by

> >>>>>>> the scientists. We cannot give this a name as Inventions

by

> >>>>> these

> >>>>>>> people, just discoveries., because already it was

discovered

> >>> by

> >>>>> our

> >>>>>>> ancients.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> regards,

> >>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Prashantkumar G B

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> >>>>> group

> >>>>>>> but

> >>>>>>> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> >>>>> phone.

> >>>>>>> Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID

> > also

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> >>>>>>> 09840051861

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail

> > Beta.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Shri Prashant Babu,

 

Pranam.

(I will not translate Pranam now,pl. dont tell me to do that,

no other language can evoke as much respect other than this)

 

Sir, rest will be done.

I too felt like this no.of times then maybe laziness to

translate , so just put what comes straightaway.

But this is not right, and I will try to change pattern

immediately.

Do bring to notice anything like this for betterment.

 

affectionately,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

> please do reduce ur Hindi content, I am not against it but if u

put the same in english there numerous non Hindi speaking can relish

it better

>

> muje Hindhi se kuch shikayat nahein sirf fikar hai sab longen

ka, jinhen Hindi nahin aate, uske ke maza lene ke likya ANGRAZ

behethear hai.

>

> English will help all readers

> I had once protested on a person using a tamil sound cochara for

gochara as we must follow what is commonly understood, some Hindi

fine once in a while but if u want all to enjoy it ENGLISH is the

way.

> no offensemeant.

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

wrote: Shri Prafulla

Bhai,

>

> ek taraf kehte ho ke mujhe knowledge nahin hai jyada, na toh

> predictive abilities hai, toh Bhai Sahaab phir kyon itna bahaas

karte

> ho har cheez mein ?

> Knowledge use karna nahin chahte constructive purpose mein .,

sirf

> jiske paas hai thoda bahut uska bhi bheja kharab kardoge,

> apni bahaas se.

>

> You can predict, I know that but Your knowledge is wasted in

wasting

> everyones time. Lets see the productive side of Your knowledge,

which

> would be welcome any day.

>

> aapko jawab dete dete dimaag khali ho jaata hai my Sir. aapke

> mails ki ham daad dete hain. Dhoond dhoondh kar points nikalte ho

> aur phir use Narad Muni ki tarah chod dete ho, taaki sab mein

bahas

> chid jaye.

>

> Khair maja aata hai aapke mails mein. Sach baat hai, aapke wajah

seh

> aur aap jaise logon seh yeh Forum mein thodi jaan lagti hai,

> thodi jinda dili aur kuch baat bhi ho jaati hai.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I do not have much knowledge or predictive abilities - but

while

> having lots of discussions with many good astrologers (local

ones) -

> I am always told that - predictive success comes from 8th house.

> >

> > Yes, i agree analytical skills comes from 5th; Jupiter has

bigger

> role too - but it is venus, who too is great in terms of more

> secretive skills (even compared to guru). 2nd house is speech

> too...guru in 8th blesses native for positive predictions; and

saturn

> in 8th for negative predictions.

> >

> > Analytical skills are good enough, only until learning

> astrology..for prediction - it is delivery of reading !!!

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't

life

> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > rajiventerprises@

> > > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:21 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >

> > > My Dear Boss,

> > >

> > > Apne ko kisko astrologer banana hai ? Bana do- usko-agar

> > > sach bolta hai jab mooh kholta hai. Kya karna hai 8th house

> > > or 5th or analytical skills ko ? Is Forum mein toh aise

> > > bhi kitne members hain jo predict karte hain? ek aur sahi.

> > > Senior logon ka kaam bach jayega toh hum unko paas jaake

> > > seekhenge unke spare time mein unke charnon mein baithkar.

> > >

> > > By the way if You know Shri Sanjay Rathiji personally then

please

> > > ask him is comments on 5th house and Jupiters aspect on same

for

> > > prediction purpose.

> > >

> > > I do not know really know how come 8th Lord will figure in

giving

> > > good predictions.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> sir

> > >>

> > >> correct prediction can be given, even without knowing

astrology -

> > > one needs very strong 8th house.

> > >>

> > >> Successful astrologer will require good 8th house / lords;

5th

> > > house can give good analytical skils - not necessarily good

> predictor.

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> life

> > > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> rajiventerprises@

> > >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:46:54 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >>>

> > >>> For various Dashas rules have been given, which one to use

as

> per

> > > the

> > >>> strong planet in Horoscope. Vimsottary has been widely

accepted

> to

> > >>> fit in all cases mostly,the lack of knowledge of other

dashas

> and

> > >>> their utility for individual horoscopes may be one of the

> factores

> > >>> for all of them not being used. We have to be thankful to

these

> > >>> great people for having given us so many options to choose.

> > > Asregards

> > >>> to question marks, we can question any thing on earth and

above,

> > > the

> > >>> Tajmahal also can be commented by critics for certain flaws

as

> per

> > >>> ones views and so can the Moon above too.

> > >>> As long as the purpose is being solved and people are being

> > > helped to

> > >>> lead better lives , I dont look for question marks.

> > >>> Who has the time to stand and care or stare ?

> > >>> Lets do something constructive like the little squirrel

helping

> > >>> Lord Rama built a bridge on his great Mission.

> > >>>

> > >>> regards,

> > >>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> In dasha system - except Vimshottari - not necessarily all

> > > planets

> > >>> are considered !!! Application of Vimshottari dasha is also

a

> big

> > >>> question mark - and Parashar referred so many conditional

> > > dashas !!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Why can not we use them like western astrologers are doing

> > >>> (including aspects / progression etc).

> > >>>>

> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>

> > >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> > > life

> > >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> rajiventerprises@

> > >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:23:20 -0000

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> KP System as You understand it, and as is commonly

understood

> is

> > >>>>> seperate ,which is in fact not.

> > >>>>> How do we check the Dasha at time of birth ?

> > >>>>> By checking what Nakshatra Moon is in . Is it not ?

> > >>>>> Suppose Moon is in Sagiitarius 8 degrees 28"

> > >>>>> The Nakshatra would be Moola, the Lord would be Ketu.

> > >>>>> So the person/child is born in Ketus Maha Dasha , Is it

not ?

> > >>>>> How would You check the antar Dasha.

> > >>>>> Check the Sub lord. What is it ? Jupiter.

> > >>>>> Then You will write in Janmapatri Ketu Maha Dasha ,

> > >>>>> and Guru antar at childs birth.

> > >>>>> So the Sub lord is nothing but.........

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> How to use this Sub Lord is the key to KP system .

> > >>>>> This is not a deviation from the Vedic system but

> > >>>>> perfecting a particular aspect by dedication.

> > >>>>> Why should we be biased if someone has perfected it ?

> > >>>>> We should be respectful towards these great people Shri BV

> > > Raman,

> > >>>>> and Sri KrishnaMurthy who have given us this heritage .

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> KP is nothing but cream taken out from the same milk.....

> > >>>>> just like Jaimini is nothing but again cream taken out

with a

> > >>>>> diffrent flavour from the same milk......

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> KP has no reference in vedas, neither will Shri Sanjay

Rath

> have

> > >>>>> neither does Shri BV Raman have, but these are masters,

we are

> > >>>>> following what they have understood from the Vedas itself

and

> > > not

> > >>> out

> > >>>>> of air .

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> There is no harm in considering Pluto also for mass

> destructions

> > >>> etc.

> > >>>>> but pray tell me where would You put Pluto, Neptune and

> Herschel

> > >>> in

> > >>>>> the Dasha system and how many years would You allot it ?

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> regards,

> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> - In , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > >>>>> wrote:

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> If I remember, MC Jain - in his case studies has used

all

> three

> > >>>>> outer planets for mundane charts and for seeing unnatural

> > > deaths /

> > >>>>> fatal accidents / assasinations etc.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> What is wrong is considering, if it adds another

parameter to

> > >>>>> jyotish. Are we not following KP sublord, which has no

> reference

> > >>> in

> > >>>>> vedas ?

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> > >>> life

> > >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little

while.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> gbp_kumar@

> > >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:47:01 -0700 (PDT)

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Ganesh

> > >>>>>>> good post,

> > >>>>>>> Veda vyasa in Maha Bharatha is said to have discribed

> > > Uranus,

> > >>>>> Neptune

> > >>>>>>> to the precise point can be wored back words for thos

who

> want

> > >>>>> to, thei

> > >>>>>>> color, composition etc and said they have ni impact on

human

> > >>>>> affairs.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> this adds more weight to veda vyasa's point.whichhe

said

> at

> > >>>>> least over

> > >>>>>>> 5000 yrs ago.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>> Dear all,

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Good attributes like Law n Order, Discipline,

commitment

> to

> > >>>>> ones work,

> > >>>>>>> respectful hireaarchy etc, which can be copied from

small

> or

> > >>> big

> > >>>>>>> from enemy or friends,from domestic or phoren is

> acceptable

> > >>> and

> > >>>>> good

> > >>>>>>> too for ones progress, but what happens when one

copies in

> > >>>>> matters

> > >>>>>>> where our Rishi Munis already have had their say is

best

> > > given

> > >>>>> below.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> ASTRONOMERS - PLUTO is not a Planet.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> A panel appointed by the International Astronomical

Union

> > > has

> > >>>>> come up

> > >>>>>>> with a compromise to the years-long struggle over

whether

> we

> > >>>>> should

> > >>>>>>> continue to count Pluto as a Planet.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> It is felt that it would be better to expel Pluto

from the

> > >>>>> planetary

> > >>>>>>> Ranks altogether since it is far smaller than what it

was

> > >>> first

> > >>>>>>> thought to be. Further its orbit is more eplitical

and is

> > >>>>> tilted in a

> > >>>>>>> different plane than those of the other planets.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Now the panel has come up with a new definition of

the

> word

> > >>>>> planet :

> > >>>>>>> any celestial body that orbits around a star and is

large

> > >>>>> enough for

> > >>>>>>> its own gravity to pull into a spherical shape. Pluto

> would

> > >>>>> hence be

> > >>>>>>> shunted into a new category called Plutons, which

would

> > >>> include

> > >>>>> any

> > >>>>>>> object that meets the definition of a planet and has

an

> > > orbit

> > >>>>> beyond

> > >>>>>>> Neptunes.

> > >>>>>>> - The New York Times.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> You may also check " The Guardian" which has an

article on

> > > the

> > >>>>> above

> > >>>>>>> on net.I dont have the link.The Guardian papers

comments

> are

> > >>>>> more

> > >>>>>>> strong on this issue.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Now In India when we have started using Neptune,Pluto

and

> > >>>>> Herschel

> > >>>>>>> after the foreigners started doing this,

> > >>>>>>> again all these may have to be removed from Indias top

> > >>>>> Astrological

> > >>>>>>> institutions, I mean reference of Pluto and hope in

time

> to

> > >>>>> come also

> > >>>>>>> Herschel and Neptune.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> If we had stuck to the 7+2 Planets before hand ,it

would

> > > have

> > >>>>> been

> > >>>>>>> more

> > >>>>>>> respectable.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> But its great to know that after thousands of years

also

> > >>>>> whatever is

> > >>>>>>> mentioned in the Vedas, all is one by one,time to time

> > >>>>> discovered by

> > >>>>>>> the scientists. We cannot give this a name as

Inventions

> by

> > >>>>> these

> > >>>>>>> people, just discoveries., because already it was

> discovered

> > >>> by

> > >>>>> our

> > >>>>>>> ancients.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Prashantkumar G B

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >>>>> group

> > >>>>>>> but

> > >>>>>>> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

mail or

> > >>>>> phone.

> > >>>>>>> Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal

ID

> > > also

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > >>>>>>> 09840051861

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

Mail

> > > Beta.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar,

It i sok with some Hinid/amskrit whatever but when u write long msgs it can be taxing for non hinid people and I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM at all if u want all to read ur post it is up to u to put in a language that all can enjoy/read.benifit

I dont want to be seen as partial to some as said I objected some person using a tamil spelling for cocharam, for gocharam and my name sounds more north some say but i prefer being just INDIAN.

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com> wrote: Shri Prashant Babu,

Pranam.

(I will not translate Pranam now,pl. dont tell me to do that,

no other language can evoke as much respect other than this)

Sir, rest will be done.

I too felt like this no.of times then maybe laziness to

translate , so just put what comes straightaway.

But this is not right, and I will try to change pattern

immediately.

Do bring to notice anything like this for betterment.

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

> please do reduce ur Hindi content, I am not against it but if u

put the same in english there numerous non Hindi speaking can relish

it better

>

> muje Hindhi se kuch shikayat nahein sirf fikar hai sab longen

ka, jinhen Hindi nahin aate, uske ke maza lene ke likya ANGRAZ

behethear hai.

>

> English will help all readers

> I had once protested on a person using a tamil sound cochara for

gochara as we must follow what is commonly understood, some Hindi

fine once in a while but if u want all to enjoy it ENGLISH is the

way.

> no offensemeant.

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

wrote: Shri Prafulla

Bhai,

>

> ek taraf kehte ho ke mujhe knowledge nahin hai jyada, na toh

> predictive abilities hai, toh Bhai Sahaab phir kyon itna bahaas

karte

> ho har cheez mein ?

> Knowledge use karna nahin chahte constructive purpose mein .,

sirf

> jiske paas hai thoda bahut uska bhi bheja kharab kardoge,

> apni bahaas se.

>

> You can predict, I know that but Your knowledge is wasted in

wasting

> everyones time. Lets see the productive side of Your knowledge,

which

> would be welcome any day.

>

> aapko jawab dete dete dimaag khali ho jaata hai my Sir. aapke

> mails ki ham daad dete hain. Dhoond dhoondh kar points nikalte ho

> aur phir use Narad Muni ki tarah chod dete ho, taaki sab mein

bahas

> chid jaye.

>

> Khair maja aata hai aapke mails mein. Sach baat hai, aapke wajah

seh

> aur aap jaise logon seh yeh Forum mein thodi jaan lagti hai,

> thodi jinda dili aur kuch baat bhi ho jaati hai.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I do not have much knowledge or predictive abilities - but

while

> having lots of discussions with many good astrologers (local

ones) -

> I am always told that - predictive success comes from 8th house.

> >

> > Yes, i agree analytical skills comes from 5th; Jupiter has

bigger

> role too - but it is venus, who too is great in terms of more

> secretive skills (even compared to guru). 2nd house is speech

> too...guru in 8th blesses native for positive predictions; and

saturn

> in 8th for negative predictions.

> >

> > Analytical skills are good enough, only until learning

> astrology..for prediction - it is delivery of reading !!!

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't

life

> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > rajiventerprises@

> > > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:21 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >

> > > My Dear Boss,

> > >

> > > Apne ko kisko astrologer banana hai ? Bana do- usko-agar

> > > sach bolta hai jab mooh kholta hai. Kya karna hai 8th house

> > > or 5th or analytical skills ko ? Is Forum mein toh aise

> > > bhi kitne members hain jo predict karte hain? ek aur sahi.

> > > Senior logon ka kaam bach jayega toh hum unko paas jaake

> > > seekhenge unke spare time mein unke charnon mein baithkar.

> > >

> > > By the way if You know Shri Sanjay Rathiji personally then

please

> > > ask him is comments on 5th house and Jupiters aspect on same

for

> > > prediction purpose.

> > >

> > > I do not know really know how come 8th Lord will figure in

giving

> > > good predictions.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> sir

> > >>

> > >> correct prediction can be given, even without knowing

astrology -

> > > one needs very strong 8th house.

> > >>

> > >> Successful astrologer will require good 8th house / lords;

5th

> > > house can give good analytical skils - not necessarily good

> predictor.

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> life

> > > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> rajiventerprises@

> > >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:46:54 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >>>

> > >>> For various Dashas rules have been given, which one to use

as

> per

> > > the

> > >>> strong planet in Horoscope. Vimsottary has been widely

accepted

> to

> > >>> fit in all cases mostly,the lack of knowledge of other

dashas

> and

> > >>> their utility for individual horoscopes may be one of the

> factores

> > >>> for all of them not being used. We have to be thankful to

these

> > >>> great people for having given us so many options to choose.

> > > Asregards

> > >>> to question marks, we can question any thing on earth and

above,

> > > the

> > >>> Tajmahal also can be commented by critics for certain flaws

as

> per

> > >>> ones views and so can the Moon above too.

> > >>> As long as the purpose is being solved and people are being

> > > helped to

> > >>> lead better lives , I dont look for question marks.

> > >>> Who has the time to stand and care or stare ?

> > >>> Lets do something constructive like the little squirrel

helping

> > >>> Lord Rama built a bridge on his great Mission.

> > >>>

> > >>> regards,

> > >>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> In dasha system - except Vimshottari - not necessarily all

> > > planets

> > >>> are considered !!! Application of Vimshottari dasha is also

a

> big

> > >>> question mark - and Parashar referred so many conditional

> > > dashas !!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Why can not we use them like western astrologers are doing

> > >>> (including aspects / progression etc).

> > >>>>

> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>

> > >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> > > life

> > >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> rajiventerprises@

> > >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:23:20 -0000

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> KP System as You understand it, and as is commonly

understood

> is

> > >>>>> seperate ,which is in fact not.

> > >>>>> How do we check the Dasha at time of birth ?

> > >>>>> By checking what Nakshatra Moon is in . Is it not ?

> > >>>>> Suppose Moon is in Sagiitarius 8 degrees 28"

> > >>>>> The Nakshatra would be Moola, the Lord would be Ketu.

> > >>>>> So the person/child is born in Ketus Maha Dasha , Is it

not ?

> > >>>>> How would You check the antar Dasha.

> > >>>>> Check the Sub lord. What is it ? Jupiter.

> > >>>>> Then You will write in Janmapatri Ketu Maha Dasha ,

> > >>>>> and Guru antar at childs birth.

> > >>>>> So the Sub lord is nothing but.........

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> How to use this Sub Lord is the key to KP system .

> > >>>>> This is not a deviation from the Vedic system but

> > >>>>> perfecting a particular aspect by dedication.

> > >>>>> Why should we be biased if someone has perfected it ?

> > >>>>> We should be respectful towards these great people Shri BV

> > > Raman,

> > >>>>> and Sri KrishnaMurthy who have given us this heritage .

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> KP is nothing but cream taken out from the same milk.....

> > >>>>> just like Jaimini is nothing but again cream taken out

with a

> > >>>>> diffrent flavour from the same milk......

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> KP has no reference in vedas, neither will Shri Sanjay

Rath

> have

> > >>>>> neither does Shri BV Raman have, but these are masters,

we are

> > >>>>> following what they have understood from the Vedas itself

and

> > > not

> > >>> out

> > >>>>> of air .

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> There is no harm in considering Pluto also for mass

> destructions

> > >>> etc.

> > >>>>> but pray tell me where would You put Pluto, Neptune and

> Herschel

> > >>> in

> > >>>>> the Dasha system and how many years would You allot it ?

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> regards,

> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> - In , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > >>>>> wrote:

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> If I remember, MC Jain - in his case studies has used

all

> three

> > >>>>> outer planets for mundane charts and for seeing unnatural

> > > deaths /

> > >>>>> fatal accidents / assasinations etc.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> What is wrong is considering, if it adds another

parameter to

> > >>>>> jyotish. Are we not following KP sublord, which has no

> reference

> > >>> in

> > >>>>> vedas ?

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> > >>> life

> > >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little

while.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> gbp_kumar@

> > >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:47:01 -0700 (PDT)

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Ganesh

> > >>>>>>> good post,

> > >>>>>>> Veda vyasa in Maha Bharatha is said to have discribed

> > > Uranus,

> > >>>>> Neptune

> > >>>>>>> to the precise point can be wored back words for thos

who

> want

> > >>>>> to, thei

> > >>>>>>> color, composition etc and said they have ni impact on

human

> > >>>>> affairs.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> this adds more weight to veda vyasa's point.whichhe

said

> at

> > >>>>> least over

> > >>>>>>> 5000 yrs ago.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>> Dear all,

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Good attributes like Law n Order, Discipline,

commitment

> to

> > >>>>> ones work,

> > >>>>>>> respectful hireaarchy etc, which can be copied from

small

> or

> > >>> big

> > >>>>>>> from enemy or friends,from domestic or phoren is

> acceptable

> > >>> and

> > >>>>> good

> > >>>>>>> too for ones progress, but what happens when one

copies in

> > >>>>> matters

> > >>>>>>> where our Rishi Munis already have had their say is

best

> > > given

> > >>>>> below.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> ASTRONOMERS - PLUTO is not a Planet.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> A panel appointed by the International Astronomical

Union

> > > has

> > >>>>> come up

> > >>>>>>> with a compromise to the years-long struggle over

whether

> we

> > >>>>> should

> > >>>>>>> continue to count Pluto as a Planet.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> It is felt that it would be better to expel Pluto

from the

> > >>>>> planetary

> > >>>>>>> Ranks altogether since it is far smaller than what it

was

> > >>> first

> > >>>>>>> thought to be. Further its orbit is more eplitical

and is

> > >>>>> tilted in a

> > >>>>>>> different plane than those of the other planets.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Now the panel has come up with a new definition of

the

> word

> > >>>>> planet :

> > >>>>>>> any celestial body that orbits around a star and is

large

> > >>>>> enough for

> > >>>>>>> its own gravity to pull into a spherical shape. Pluto

> would

> > >>>>> hence be

> > >>>>>>> shunted into a new category called Plutons, which

would

> > >>> include

> > >>>>> any

> > >>>>>>> object that meets the definition of a planet and has

an

> > > orbit

> > >>>>> beyond

> > >>>>>>> Neptunes.

> > >>>>>>> - The New York Times.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> You may also check " The Guardian" which has an

article on

> > > the

> > >>>>> above

> > >>>>>>> on net.I dont have the link.The Guardian papers

comments

> are

> > >>>>> more

> > >>>>>>> strong on this issue.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Now In India when we have started using Neptune,Pluto

and

> > >>>>> Herschel

> > >>>>>>> after the foreigners started doing this,

> > >>>>>>> again all these may have to be removed from Indias top

> > >>>>> Astrological

> > >>>>>>> institutions, I mean reference of Pluto and hope in

time

> to

> > >>>>> come also

> > >>>>>>> Herschel and Neptune.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> If we had stuck to the 7+2 Planets before hand ,it

would

> > > have

> > >>>>> been

> > >>>>>>> more

> > >>>>>>> respectable.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> But its great to know that after thousands of years

also

> > >>>>> whatever is

> > >>>>>>> mentioned in the Vedas, all is one by one,time to time

> > >>>>> discovered by

> > >>>>>>> the scientists. We cannot give this a name as

Inventions

> by

> > >>>>> these

> > >>>>>>> people, just discoveries., because already it was

> discovered

> > >>> by

> > >>>>> our

> > >>>>>>> ancients.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Prashantkumar G B

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> > >>>>> group

> > >>>>>>> but

> > >>>>>>> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat,

mail or

> > >>>>> phone.

> > >>>>>>> Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal

ID

> > > also

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > >>>>>>> 09840051861

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

Mail

> > > Beta.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Shri Prashant Sahab,

 

I understand Sir and know that You are Indian to the Core. I can get

that feel from Your mails, which are very welcome by me and relish

the same and re-read too for my benefit.

 

 

affectioantely,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar,

> It i sok with some Hinid/amskrit whatever but when u write long

msgs it can be taxing for non hinid people and I DONT HAVE A

PROBLEM at all if u want all to read ur post it is up to u to put in

a language that all can enjoy/read.benifit

> I dont want to be seen as partial to some as said I objected

some person using a tamil spelling for cocharam, for gocharam and my

name sounds more north some say but i prefer being just INDIAN.

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

wrote: Shri Prashant

Babu,

>

> Pranam.

> (I will not translate Pranam now,pl. dont tell me to do that,

> no other language can evoke as much respect other than this)

>

> Sir, rest will be done.

> I too felt like this no.of times then maybe laziness to

> translate , so just put what comes straightaway.

> But this is not right, and I will try to change pattern

> immediately.

> Do bring to notice anything like this for betterment.

>

> affectionately,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar

> > please do reduce ur Hindi content, I am not against it but if

u

> put the same in english there numerous non Hindi speaking can

relish

> it better

> >

> > muje Hindhi se kuch shikayat nahein sirf fikar hai sab longen

> ka, jinhen Hindi nahin aate, uske ke maza lene ke likya ANGRAZ

> behethear hai.

> >

> > English will help all readers

> > I had once protested on a person using a tamil sound cochara

for

> gochara as we must follow what is commonly understood, some

Hindi

> fine once in a while but if u want all to enjoy it ENGLISH is

the

> way.

> > no offensemeant.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@>

> wrote: Shri

Prafulla

> Bhai,

> >

> > ek taraf kehte ho ke mujhe knowledge nahin hai jyada, na toh

> > predictive abilities hai, toh Bhai Sahaab phir kyon itna

bahaas

> karte

> > ho har cheez mein ?

> > Knowledge use karna nahin chahte constructive purpose mein .,

> sirf

> > jiske paas hai thoda bahut uska bhi bheja kharab kardoge,

> > apni bahaas se.

> >

> > You can predict, I know that but Your knowledge is wasted in

> wasting

> > everyones time. Lets see the productive side of Your

knowledge,

> which

> > would be welcome any day.

> >

> > aapko jawab dete dete dimaag khali ho jaata hai my Sir. aapke

> > mails ki ham daad dete hain. Dhoond dhoondh kar points

nikalte ho

> > aur phir use Narad Muni ki tarah chod dete ho, taaki sab mein

> bahas

> > chid jaye.

> >

> > Khair maja aata hai aapke mails mein. Sach baat hai, aapke

wajah

> seh

> > aur aap jaise logon seh yeh Forum mein thodi jaan lagti hai,

> > thodi jinda dili aur kuch baat bhi ho jaati hai.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I do not have much knowledge or predictive abilities - but

> while

> > having lots of discussions with many good astrologers (local

> ones) -

> > I am always told that - predictive success comes from 8th

house.

> > >

> > > Yes, i agree analytical skills comes from 5th; Jupiter has

> bigger

> > role too - but it is venus, who too is great in terms of more

> > secretive skills (even compared to guru). 2nd house is speech

> > too...guru in 8th blesses native for positive predictions;

and

> saturn

> > in 8th for negative predictions.

> > >

> > > Analytical skills are good enough, only until learning

> > astrology..for prediction - it is delivery of reading !!!

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

wouldn't

> life

> > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > rajiventerprises@

> > > > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:21 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > > >

> > > > My Dear Boss,

> > > >

> > > > Apne ko kisko astrologer banana hai ? Bana do- usko-agar

> > > > sach bolta hai jab mooh kholta hai. Kya karna hai 8th

house

> > > > or 5th or analytical skills ko ? Is Forum mein toh aise

> > > > bhi kitne members hain jo predict karte hain? ek aur sahi.

> > > > Senior logon ka kaam bach jayega toh hum unko paas jaake

> > > > seekhenge unke spare time mein unke charnon mein baithkar.

> > > >

> > > > By the way if You know Shri Sanjay Rathiji personally

then

> please

> > > > ask him is comments on 5th house and Jupiters aspect on

same

> for

> > > > prediction purpose.

> > > >

> > > > I do not know really know how come 8th Lord will figure

in

> giving

> > > > good predictions.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> sir

> > > >>

> > > >> correct prediction can be given, even without knowing

> astrology -

> > > > one needs very strong 8th house.

> > > >>

> > > >> Successful astrologer will require good 8th house /

lords;

> 5th

> > > > house can give good analytical skils - not necessarily

good

> > predictor.

> > > >>

> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >>

> > > >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

> wouldn't

> > life

> > > > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little

while.

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> rajiventerprises@

> > > >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:46:54 -0000

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > > >>>

> > > >>> For various Dashas rules have been given, which one to

use

> as

> > per

> > > > the

> > > >>> strong planet in Horoscope. Vimsottary has been widely

> accepted

> > to

> > > >>> fit in all cases mostly,the lack of knowledge of other

> dashas

> > and

> > > >>> their utility for individual horoscopes may be one of

the

> > factores

> > > >>> for all of them not being used. We have to be thankful

to

> these

> > > >>> great people for having given us so many options to

choose.

> > > > Asregards

> > > >>> to question marks, we can question any thing on earth

and

> above,

> > > > the

> > > >>> Tajmahal also can be commented by critics for certain

flaws

> as

> > per

> > > >>> ones views and so can the Moon above too.

> > > >>> As long as the purpose is being solved and people are

being

> > > > helped to

> > > >>> lead better lives , I dont look for question marks.

> > > >>> Who has the time to stand and care or stare ?

> > > >>> Lets do something constructive like the little squirrel

> helping

> > > >>> Lord Rama built a bridge on his great Mission.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> regards,

> > > >>> Bhaskar.

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> > > >>> wrote:

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> In dasha system - except Vimshottari - not necessarily

all

> > > > planets

> > > >>> are considered !!! Application of Vimshottari dasha is

also

> a

> > big

> > > >>> question mark - and Parashar referred so many

conditional

> > > > dashas !!

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Why can not we use them like western astrologers are

doing

> > > >>> (including aspects / progression etc).

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

> wouldn't

> > > > life

> > > >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little

while.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> rajiventerprises@

> > > >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:23:20 -0000

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> KP System as You understand it, and as is commonly

> understood

> > is

> > > >>>>> seperate ,which is in fact not.

> > > >>>>> How do we check the Dasha at time of birth ?

> > > >>>>> By checking what Nakshatra Moon is in . Is it not ?

> > > >>>>> Suppose Moon is in Sagiitarius 8 degrees 28"

> > > >>>>> The Nakshatra would be Moola, the Lord would be Ketu.

> > > >>>>> So the person/child is born in Ketus Maha Dasha , Is

it

> not ?

> > > >>>>> How would You check the antar Dasha.

> > > >>>>> Check the Sub lord. What is it ? Jupiter.

> > > >>>>> Then You will write in Janmapatri Ketu Maha Dasha ,

> > > >>>>> and Guru antar at childs birth.

> > > >>>>> So the Sub lord is nothing but.........

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> How to use this Sub Lord is the key to KP system .

> > > >>>>> This is not a deviation from the Vedic system but

> > > >>>>> perfecting a particular aspect by dedication.

> > > >>>>> Why should we be biased if someone has perfected it ?

> > > >>>>> We should be respectful towards these great people

Shri BV

> > > > Raman,

> > > >>>>> and Sri KrishnaMurthy who have given us this

heritage .

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> KP is nothing but cream taken out from the same

milk.....

> > > >>>>> just like Jaimini is nothing but again cream taken

out

> with a

> > > >>>>> diffrent flavour from the same milk......

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> KP has no reference in vedas, neither will Shri

Sanjay

> Rath

> > have

> > > >>>>> neither does Shri BV Raman have, but these are

masters,

> we are

> > > >>>>> following what they have understood from the Vedas

itself

> and

> > > > not

> > > >>> out

> > > >>>>> of air .

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> There is no harm in considering Pluto also for mass

> > destructions

> > > >>> etc.

> > > >>>>> but pray tell me where would You put Pluto, Neptune

and

> > Herschel

> > > >>> in

> > > >>>>> the Dasha system and how many years would You allot

it ?

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> regards,

> > > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> - In , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> > > >>>>> wrote:

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> If I remember, MC Jain - in his case studies has

used

> all

> > three

> > > >>>>> outer planets for mundane charts and for seeing

unnatural

> > > > deaths /

> > > >>>>> fatal accidents / assasinations etc.

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> What is wrong is considering, if it adds another

> parameter to

> > > >>>>> jyotish. Are we not following KP sublord, which has

no

> > reference

> > > >>> in

> > > >>>>> vedas ?

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then

> wouldn't

> > > >>> life

> > > >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little

> while.

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> gbp_kumar@

> > > >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:47:01 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Re: ANGREJON KI NAKAL- PLUTO 18/8

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Ganesh

> > > >>>>>>> good post,

> > > >>>>>>> Veda vyasa in Maha Bharatha is said to have

discribed

> > > > Uranus,

> > > >>>>> Neptune

> > > >>>>>>> to the precise point can be wored back words for

thos

> who

> > want

> > > >>>>> to, thei

> > > >>>>>>> color, composition etc and said they have ni impact

on

> human

> > > >>>>> affairs.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> this adds more weight to veda vyasa's

point.whichhe

> said

> > at

> > > >>>>> least over

> > > >>>>>>> 5000 yrs ago.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > > >>>>>>> Dear all,

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Good attributes like Law n Order, Discipline,

> commitment

> > to

> > > >>>>> ones work,

> > > >>>>>>> respectful hireaarchy etc, which can be copied

from

> small

> > or

> > > >>> big

> > > >>>>>>> from enemy or friends,from domestic or phoren is

> > acceptable

> > > >>> and

> > > >>>>> good

> > > >>>>>>> too for ones progress, but what happens when one

> copies in

> > > >>>>> matters

> > > >>>>>>> where our Rishi Munis already have had their say

is

> best

> > > > given

> > > >>>>> below.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> ASTRONOMERS - PLUTO is not a Planet.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> A panel appointed by the International

Astronomical

> Union

> > > > has

> > > >>>>> come up

> > > >>>>>>> with a compromise to the years-long struggle over

> whether

> > we

> > > >>>>> should

> > > >>>>>>> continue to count Pluto as a Planet.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> It is felt that it would be better to expel Pluto

> from the

> > > >>>>> planetary

> > > >>>>>>> Ranks altogether since it is far smaller than

what it

> was

> > > >>> first

> > > >>>>>>> thought to be. Further its orbit is more

eplitical

> and is

> > > >>>>> tilted in a

> > > >>>>>>> different plane than those of the other planets.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Now the panel has come up with a new definition

of

> the

> > word

> > > >>>>> planet :

> > > >>>>>>> any celestial body that orbits around a star and

is

> large

> > > >>>>> enough for

> > > >>>>>>> its own gravity to pull into a spherical shape.

Pluto

> > would

> > > >>>>> hence be

> > > >>>>>>> shunted into a new category called Plutons, which

> would

> > > >>> include

> > > >>>>> any

> > > >>>>>>> object that meets the definition of a planet and

has

> an

> > > > orbit

> > > >>>>> beyond

> > > >>>>>>> Neptunes.

> > > >>>>>>> - The New York Times.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> You may also check " The Guardian" which has an

> article on

> > > > the

> > > >>>>> above

> > > >>>>>>> on net.I dont have the link.The Guardian papers

> comments

> > are

> > > >>>>> more

> > > >>>>>>> strong on this issue.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Now In India when we have started using

Neptune,Pluto

> and

> > > >>>>> Herschel

> > > >>>>>>> after the foreigners started doing this,

> > > >>>>>>> again all these may have to be removed from

Indias top

> > > >>>>> Astrological

> > > >>>>>>> institutions, I mean reference of Pluto and hope

in

> time

> > to

> > > >>>>> come also

> > > >>>>>>> Herschel and Neptune.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> If we had stuck to the 7+2 Planets before

hand ,it

> would

> > > > have

> > > >>>>> been

> > > >>>>>>> more

> > > >>>>>>> respectable.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> But its great to know that after thousands of

years

> also

> > > >>>>> whatever is

> > > >>>>>>> mentioned in the Vedas, all is one by one,time to

time

> > > >>>>> discovered by

> > > >>>>>>> the scientists. We cannot give this a name as

> Inventions

> > by

> > > >>>>> these

> > > >>>>>>> people, just discoveries., because already it was

> > discovered

> > > >>> by

> > > >>>>> our

> > > >>>>>>> ancients.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> regards,

> > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Prashantkumar G B

> > > >>>>>>>

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[Guest guest]

dear Prashant,

I agree with ur observations,since this site has

people from India and also from other countries.

 

k.gopu