Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear members, Thanks to all members for their views. I have gone through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. First So many members told me that this house can give too much this thing and that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to talk about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so many things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir Nakshtra based prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or time of event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just conclude average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in lagan so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very fond of occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). But I think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere concerned with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has its favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in love this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone loss money similarly every house have good and bad things related to that house. But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th house, very good if some planets are very harmonious especially Jupiter, ju with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities making a person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments all the saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here second angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So moon decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition of mind sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is in good condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can connect the moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati(for them whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha which is damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our desire, So many people are happy only in their own created word. If there desire fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the damage to 5th house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri Bhaskar ji Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. Sure Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss nakshtra based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. Thanks all members vivek > > hi vivek, > > > > good article.. > > for kumbha lagna,,,,5th and 8th lord is mercury...what happens if it > > is placed in lagna ..5th lord placed in lagna which is 9th to 5th > > house, and also 8th lord placed in lagna which is 6th to 8th...what > > will be the intelligence of that person and will he be good > > astrologer...? > > > > sriganeshh > > > > , "vivek" <viveck2001@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > There are two terms disappointment and the second is > > > depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. In > > > our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers takes > > > its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I will > > > discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above word. > > > first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no planets) > > > in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet like > > > saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person)allmost > > > alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like mars, > > > ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes cause > > > of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but if > > they > > > owns this house disappointent > > > level also increase with the same strenth. Here some astrologers > > > can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if that > > > is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated > > always > > > gives very > > > bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if it > > is > > > in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated and > > > with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in 5th > > > house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in > > > conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in > > > dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then it > > > is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not disturbing > > > moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative > > > role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th lord > > > with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed > > > with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart and > > > only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some > > harmony. > > > example: > > > (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it happened > > > see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. > > > (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is > > harmonius > > > that will happen. > > > Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of 8th > > > house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is one > > of > > > unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not > > > good can give great dissappointments. > > > For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can > > > estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. > > > At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to its > > > nature always cause of dissappointments. > > > Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. > > > vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > > but > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Vivek I think u've have to think and revise ur original msg, if it was clear then the response u got and the response to it will not be so diffferent. and in the end u also added other factors, say diferent failures, sade sat, Moon and so on so pl clarify if u have alreadyhad someting in min and did not say so but expected others to endorse what they really did not know. I feel the response to 8th was balanced and covered may aspects it represents and 8this never isolated except for Dhanur, Makara Signs so 8th has to have a say in 10 signs for other houses as well. I am not sure what u r protestig about. also nakshatra padathi is used from a long time and 1st work in English came by R G RO or meena called Nadi astrology it is more stellar well done and this one KP used, KP did sythasize many concepts even Linda Godman's characteristics verbattim. vivek <viveck2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear members, Thanks to all members for their views. I have gone through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. First So many members told me that this house can give too much this thing and that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to talk about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so many things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir Nakshtra based prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or time of event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just conclude average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in lagan so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very fond of occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). But I think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere concerned with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has its favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in love this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone loss money similarly every house have good and bad things related to that house. But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th house, very good if some planets are very harmonious especially Jupiter, ju with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities making a person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments all the saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here second angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So moon decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition of mind sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is in good condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can connect the moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati(for them whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha which is damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our desire, So many people are happy only in their own created word. If there desire fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the damage to 5th house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri Bhaskar ji Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. Sure Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss nakshtra based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. Thanks all members vivek > > hi vivek, > > > > good article.. > > for kumbha lagna,,,,5th and 8th lord is mercury...what happens if it > > is placed in lagna ..5th lord placed in lagna which is 9th to 5th > > house, and also 8th lord placed in lagna which is 6th to 8th...what > > will be the intelligence of that person and will he be good > > astrologer...? > > > > sriganeshh > > > > , "vivek" <viveck2001@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > There are two terms disappointment and the second is > > > depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. In > > > our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers takes > > > its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I will > > > discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above word. > > > first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no planets) > > > in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet like > > > saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person)allmost > > > alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like mars, > > > ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes cause > > > of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but if > > they > > > owns this house disappointent > > > level also increase with the same strenth. Here some astrologers > > > can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if that > > > is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated > > always > > > gives very > > > bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if it > > is > > > in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated and > > > with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in 5th > > > house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in > > > conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in > > > dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then it > > > is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not disturbing > > > moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative > > > role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th lord > > > with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed > > > with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart and > > > only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some > > harmony. > > > example: > > > (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it happened > > > see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. > > > (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is > > harmonius > > > that will happen. > > > Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of 8th > > > house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is one > > of > > > unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not > > > good can give great dissappointments. > > > For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can > > > estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. > > > At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to its > > > nature always cause of dissappointments. > > > Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. > > > vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > > but > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Vivek ji You mentioned sade sati and concurring dasha. Fundamentally - sade sati blocks the dasha phal (except when it is karka) and gives the results strictly per karma. Dasha is bhagya chakra for native, and if it cease to operate - then why to correlate it with transit. regards / Prafulla Gang If you seat yourself next to someone instead of opposite them, then the tables will never seem to turn. > > gbp_kumar > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:28:54 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: 8th house and disappointments /2 > > Vivek > I think u've have to think and revise ur original msg, if it was clear > then the response u got and the response to it will not be so > diffferent. > and in the end u also added other factors, say diferent failures, sade > sat, Moon and so on so pl clarify if u have alreadyhad someting in min > and did not say so but expected others to endorse what they really did > not know. > > I feel the response to 8th was balanced and covered may aspects it > represents and 8this never isolated except for Dhanur, Makara Signs so > 8th has to have a say in 10 signs for other houses as well. > > I am not sure what u r protestig about. > > also nakshatra padathi is used from a long time and 1st work in English > came by R G RO or meena called Nadi astrology it is more stellar well > done and this one KP used, KP did sythasize many concepts even Linda > Godman's characteristics verbattim. > > vivek <viveck2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear members, > Thanks to all members for their views. I have gone > through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. First So > many members told me that this house can give too much this thing and > that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to talk > about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so many > things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir Nakshtra based > prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or time of > event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just conclude > average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in lagan > so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very fond of > occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). But I > think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. > Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere concerned > with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has its > favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in love > this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone loss money > similarly every house have good and bad things related to that house. > But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th house, > very good if some planets are very harmonious especially Jupiter, ju > with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities making a > person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments all the > saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here second > angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So moon > decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition of mind > sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is in good > condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can connect the > moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati(for them > whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha which is > damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our desire, So > many people are happy only in their own created word. If there desire > fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the damage to 5th > house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. > Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri Bhaskar ji > Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. Sure > Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss nakshtra > based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. > Thanks all members > vivek > > > > hi vivek, > > > > > > > good article.. > > > for kumbha lagna,,,,5th and 8th lord is mercury...what happens if > it > > > is placed in lagna ..5th lord placed in lagna which is 9th to 5th > > > house, and also 8th lord placed in lagna which is 6th to > 8th...what > > > will be the intelligence of that person and will he be good > > > astrologer...? > > > > > > sriganeshh > > > > > > , "vivek" <viveck2001@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > There are two terms disappointment and the second > is > > > > depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. > In > > > > our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers > takes > > > > its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I > will > > > > discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above > word. > > > > first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no > planets) > > > > in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet > like > > > > saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a > person)allmost > > > > alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like > mars, > > > > ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes > cause > > > > of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but if > > > they > > > > owns this house disappointent > > > > level also increase with the same strenth. Here some > astrologers > > > > can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if > that > > > > is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated > > > always > > > > gives very > > > > bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if > it > > > is > > > > in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated > and > > > > with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in 5th > > > > house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in > > > > conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in > > > > dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then > it > > > > is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not disturbing > > > > moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative > > > > role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th > lord > > > > with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed > > > > with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart and > > > > only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some > > > harmony. > > > > example: > > > > (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it > happened > > > > see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. > > > > (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is > > > harmonius > > > > that will happen. > > > > Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of > 8th > > > > house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is > one > > > of > > > > unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not > > > > good can give great dissappointments. > > > > For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can > > > > estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. > > > > At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to > its > > > > nature always cause of dissappointments. > > > > Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. > > > > vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > group > > > but > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ > > > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Vivek ji I have no comments on Linda Godman or Kp on this thread !! On sade sati..I have my views, reasonaly tested..so no arguments. Dasha phal cease..but there are other planets also, whose transit also have the role...and so of D charts.. It is not the sani alone or dasha alone, which gives mearriage !!! regards / Prafulla Gang If you seat yourself next to someone instead of opposite them, then the tables will never seem to turn. > > viveck2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in > Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:41:49 -0000 > > Re: 8th house and disappointments to praffula > > Dear Parfulla ji, > I am not agree with you. Just take a example of > a girl her bhagya is her husband it means if saturn being not the > karka in her kundli then she can't marry in sadesati or she can marry > with her own efforts. What you say that is your opinion. Second abt > linda godman i read that book 10 years before. In indian context it > is just predicting 40 to 50 percent nature of human being. And second > you mentioned KP. KP is very good science but KP don't have answers > to so many questions. kp not explain all the things the origion is KP > also vedic. Vedic jyotish have answer for every good and bad in your > horoscope. But time come not to protest, but try to change something > with time otherwise nobody will trust us. > vivek > Dear members, > Thanks to all members for their views. I have gone > through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. First So > many members told me that this house can give too much this thing and > that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to talk > about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so many > things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir Nakshtra based > prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or time of > event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just conclude > average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in lagan > so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very fond of > occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). But I > think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. > Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere concerned > with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has its > favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in love > this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone loss money > similarly every house have good and bad things related to that house. > But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th house, > very good if some planets are very harmonious especially Jupiter, ju > with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities making a > person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments all the > saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here second > angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So moon > decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition of mind > sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is in good > condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can connect the > moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati(for them > whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha which is > damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our desire, So > many people are happy only in their own created word. If there desire > fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the damage to 5th > house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. > Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri Bhaskar ji > Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. Sure > Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss nakshtra > based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. > Thanks all members > vivek > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Vivek ji >> >> You mentioned sade sati and concurring dasha. >> >> Fundamentally - sade sati blocks the dasha phal (except when it is > karka) and gives the results strictly per karma. Dasha is bhagya > chakra for native, and if it cease to operate - then why to correlate > it with transit. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >>> vivek <viveck2001 wrote: >>> Dear members, >>> Thanks to all members for their views. I have > gone >>> through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. > First So >>> many members told me that this house can give too much this > thing and >>> that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to > talk >>> about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so > many >>> things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir > Nakshtra based >>> prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or > time of >>> event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just > conclude >>> average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in > lagan >>> so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very > fond of >>> occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). > But I >>> think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. >>> Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere > concerned >>> with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has > its >>> favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in > love >>> this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone loss > money >>> similarly every house have good and bad things related to that > house. >>> But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th > house, >>> very good if some planets are very harmonious especially > Jupiter, ju >>> with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities making a >>> person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments > all the >>> saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here > second >>> angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So > moon >>> decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition > of mind >>> sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is > in good >>> condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can > connect the >>> moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati > (for them >>> whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha > which is >>> damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our > desire, So >>> many people are happy only in their own created word. If there > desire >>> fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the damage > to 5th >>> house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. >>> Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri > Bhaskar ji >>> Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. > Sure >>> Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss > nakshtra >>> based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. >>> Thanks all members >>> vivek >>> >>> > > hi vivek, >>> >>> > > >>> > > good article.. >>> > > for kumbha lagna,,,,5th and 8th lord is mercury...what > happens if >>> it >>> > > is placed in lagna ..5th lord placed in lagna which is > 9th to 5th >>> > > house, and also 8th lord placed in lagna which is 6th to >>> 8th...what >>> > > will be the intelligence of that person and will he be > good >>> > > astrologer...? >>> > > >>> > > sriganeshh >>> > > >>> > > , "vivek" > <viveck2001@> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Dear members, >>> > > > There are two terms disappointment and > the second >>> is >>> > > > depression. Here I am going to discuss about > disappointments. >>> In >>> > > > our chart 8th house is very important. So many > astrologers >>> takes >>> > > > its importance or call it house of accident,death etc > which I >>> will >>> > > > discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the > above >>> word. >>> > > > first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no >>> planets) >>> > > > in this house. This is very good for you. Because the > planet >>> like >>> > > > saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a >>> person)allmost >>> > > > alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet > like >>> mars, >>> > > > ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects > becomes >>> cause >>> > > > of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very > rash) but if >>> > > they >>> > > > owns this house disappointent >>> > > > level also increase with the same strenth. Here some >>> astrologers >>> > > > can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a > planet if >>> that >>> > > > is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or > debiliated >>> > > always >>> > > > gives very >>> > > > bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling > planet if >>> it >>> > > is >>> > > > in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is > situated >>> and >>> > > > with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it > is in 5th >>> > > > house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon > is in >>> > > > conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in >>> > > > dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu > lagan). then >>> it >>> > > > is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not > disturbing >>> > > > moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a > negative >>> > > > role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I > mean 8th >>> lord >>> > > > with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly > placed >>> > > > with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad > chart and >>> > > > only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep > some >>> > > harmony. >>> > > > example: >>> > > > (1) You never expected this thing can happen but > it >>> happened >>> > > > see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big > role. >>> > > > (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house > is >>> > > harmonius >>> > > > that will happen. >>> > > > Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, > Dasha of >>> 8th >>> > > > house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because > this is >>> one >>> > > of >>> > > > unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and > if not >>> > > > good can give great dissappointments. >>> > > > For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. > We can >>> > > > estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. >>> > > > At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets > opposite to >>> its >>> > > > nature always cause of dissappointments. >>> > > > Above all based upon my own research and any comments > welcome. >>> > > > vivek >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Prashantkumar G B >>> > > >>> > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > >>> group >>> > > but >>> > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail > or phone. >>> > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID > also >>> > > >>> > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ >>> > > 09840051861 >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 How does it matter..if we agree or not agree!! Jyotish is bigger than that. Is not it!! regards / Prafulla Gang Every exit is an entry somewhere. > > viveck2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in > Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:41:05 -0000 > > Re: 8th house and disappointments to prafula ji > > Dear Parfulla ji, > Hope you will be fine. I am fully agree with you > sir . One more thing I want to add every one have his own opinion and > and whenever we write something we cannot conclude in some words. We > need so many lines to explain one line. This is astrology just like > sea. That is why in my article I have tried to focus on one word but > in my writing I mentioned some other things also. I am very happy > that you noticed them next time On my article I will keep in mind all > these things. parfulla ji it is my intrest but the astrologers whose > proffession, they must be more accurate on predicting due to > experience. > yours always > vivek > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Vivek ji >> >> I have no comments on Linda Godman or Kp on this thread !! >> >> On sade sati..I have my views, reasonaly tested..so no arguments. > Dasha phal cease..but there are other planets also, whose transit > also have the role..and so of D charts.. >> >> It is not the sani alone or dasha alone, which gives mearriage !!! >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> If you seat yourself next to someone instead of opposite them, then > the tables will never seem to turn. >> >> >>> >>> viveck2001 >>> Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:41:49 -0000 >>> >>> Re: 8th house and disappointments to praffula >>> >>> Dear Parfulla ji, >>> I am not agree with you. Just take a example of >>> a girl her bhagya is her husband it means if saturn being not the >>> karka in her kundli then she can't marry in sadesati or she can > marry >>> with her own efforts. What you say that is your opinion. Second > abt >>> linda godman i read that book 10 years before. In indian context > it >>> is just predicting 40 to 50 percent nature of human being. And > second >>> you mentioned KP. KP is very good science but KP don't have > answers >>> to so many questions. kp not explain all the things the origion > is KP >>> also vedic. Vedic jyotish have answer for every good and bad in > your >>> horoscope. But time come not to protest, but try to change > something >>> with time otherwise nobody will trust us. >>> vivek >>> Dear members, >>> Thanks to all members for their views. I have gone >>> through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. > First So >>> many members told me that this house can give too much this thing > and >>> that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to > talk >>> about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so > many >>> things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir Nakshtra > based >>> prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or > time of >>> event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just > conclude >>> average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in > lagan >>> so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very > fond of >>> occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). > But I >>> think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. >>> Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere concerned >>> with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has its >>> favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in love >>> this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone loss > money >>> similarly every house have good and bad things related to that > house. >>> But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th house, >>> very good if some planets are very harmonious especially Jupiter, > ju >>> with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities making a >>> person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments > all the >>> saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here second >>> angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So moon >>> decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition of > mind >>> sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is in > good >>> condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can > connect the >>> moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati(for > them >>> whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha which > is >>> damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our desire, > So >>> many people are happy only in their own created word. If there > desire >>> fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the damage > to 5th >>> house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. >>> Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri > Bhaskar ji >>> Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. Sure >>> Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss nakshtra >>> based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. >>> Thanks all members >>> vivek >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Vivek ji >>>> >>>> You mentioned sade sati and concurring dasha. >>>> >>>> Fundamentally - sade sati blocks the dasha phal (except when it > is >>> karka) and gives the results strictly per karma. Dasha is bhagya >>> chakra for native, and if it cease to operate - then why to > correlate >>> it with transit. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>>> vivek <viveck2001@> wrote: >>>>> Dear members, >>>>> Thanks to all members for their views. I have >>> gone >>>>> through all the mails and want to answer where I find needed. >>> First So >>>>> many members told me that this house can give too much this >>> thing and >>>>> that thing but I mentioned in my first line that I am going to >>> talk >>>>> about disappointments. Every one knows 8th house represents so >>> many >>>>> things. First let me reply to Bhaskar ji. Respected Sir >>> Nakshtra based >>>>> prediction which I found are very accurate, it tells event or >>> time of >>>>> event. On the whole when we say something good or bad we just >>> conclude >>>>> average. Now to Ganesh ji : Respected Sir 5th and 8th house in >>> lagan >>>>> so many lines we can write about that, the person must be very >>> fond of >>>>> occult sciences and must be taking life as gamble(saint type). >>> But I >>>>> think ganesh ji this way I will go off the track. >>>>> Let me back on track, Disappointments somewhere >>> concerned >>>>> with our expectations from other or from life. Every house has >>> its >>>>> favorable and unfavorable house concerned. Some one failed in >>> love >>>>> this also disappointment. Some one failed in exam, someone > loss >>> money >>>>> similarly every house have good and bad things related to that >>> house. >>>>> But we as a body and lagan represent soul. Now take the 8th >>> house, >>>>> very good if some planets are very harmonious especially >>> Jupiter, ju >>>>> with mer and then ju with moon all with other qualities > making a >>>>> person like saint. But all of us know how many disappointments >>> all the >>>>> saints have faced. There life is full of difficulties. Here >>> second >>>>> angle change as most of us feel happy or sad due to mind. So >>> moon >>>>> decides we are happy or not, No moon only tells the condition >>> of mind >>>>> sometime it gives trouble on small things and some time it is >>> in good >>>>> condition we can face big problems very easily. So you can >>> connect the >>>>> moon with 8th house. For example some people are in sadesati >>> (for them >>>>> whom it is not favourable) and also starts 8th house dasha >>> which is >>>>> damaged now this will give bad effects. 5th house yes our >>> desire, So >>>>> many people are happy only in their own created word. If there >>> desire >>>>> fulfill they gets everything. Again cause of concern the > damage >>> to 5th >>>>> house with damaged 8th house can be great disappointments. >>>>> Sir I will write some other time and I want to thanks Shri >>> Bhaskar ji >>>>> Whose one word strike me :welcome vivek become little active. >>> Sure >>>>> Bhaskar ji I will try my best. I will also try to discuss >>> nakshtra >>>>> based predictions with you which I gone through very deeply. >>>>> Thanks all members >>>>> vivek >>>>> >>>>> > > hi vivek, >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> > > good article.. >>>>> > > for kumbha lagna,,,,5th and 8th lord is mercury...what >>> happens if >>>>> it >>>>> > > is placed in lagna ..5th lord placed in lagna which is >>> 9th to 5th >>>>> > > house, and also 8th lord placed in lagna which is 6th to >>>>> 8th...what >>>>> > > will be the intelligence of that person and will he be >>> good >>>>> > > astrologer...? >>>>> > > >>>>> > > sriganeshh >>>>> > > >>>>> > > , "vivek" >>> <viveck2001@> >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > Dear members, >>>>> > > > There are two terms disappointment and >>> the second >>>>> is >>>>> > > > depression. Here I am going to discuss about >>> disappointments. >>>>> In >>>>> > > > our chart 8th house is very important. So many >>> astrologers >>>>> takes >>>>> > > > its importance or call it house of accident,death etc >>> which I >>>>> will >>>>> > > > discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on > the >>> above >>>>> word. >>>>> > > > first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety > (no >>>>> planets) >>>>> > > > in this house. This is very good for you. Because the >>> planet >>>>> like >>>>> > > > saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a >>>>> person)allmost >>>>> > > > alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet >>> like >>>>> mars, >>>>> > > > ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects >>> becomes >>>>> cause >>>>> > > > of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very >>> rash) but if >>>>> > > they >>>>> > > > owns this house disappointent >>>>> > > > level also increase with the same strenth. Here some >>>>> astrologers >>>>> > > > can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a >>> planet if >>>>> that >>>>> > > > is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or >>> debiliated >>>>> > > always >>>>> > > > gives very >>>>> > > > bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling >>> planet if >>>>> it >>>>> > > is >>>>> > > > in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is >>> situated >>>>> and >>>>> > > > with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it >>> is in 5th >>>>> > > > house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon >>> is in >>>>> > > > conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go > in >>>>> > > > dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu >>> lagan). then >>>>> it >>>>> > > > is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not >>> disturbing >>>>> > > > moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a >>> negative >>>>> > > > role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I >>> mean 8th >>>>> lord >>>>> > > > with bad planets or itself not good and moon also > badly >>> placed >>>>> > > > with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad >>> chart and >>>>> > > > only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep >>> some >>>>> > > harmony. >>>>> > > > example: >>>>> > > > (1) You never expected this thing can happen but >>> it >>>>> happened >>>>> > > > see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very > big >>> role. >>>>> > > > (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th > house >>> is >>>>> > > harmonius >>>>> > > > that will happen. >>>>> > > > Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, >>> Dasha of >>>>> 8th >>>>> > > > house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because >>> this is >>>>> one >>>>> > > of >>>>> > > > unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and >>> if not >>>>> > > > good can give great dissappointments. >>>>> > > > For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. >>> We can >>>>> > > > estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. >>>>> > > > At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets >>> opposite to >>>>> its >>>>> > > > nature always cause of dissappointments. >>>>> > > > Above all based upon my own research and any comments >>> welcome. >>>>> > > > vivek >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Prashantkumar G B >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on >>> >>>>> group >>>>> > > but >>>>> > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail >>> or phone. >>>>> > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID >>> also >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ >>>>> > > 09840051861 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the >>> US (and >>>>> 30+ >>>>> > > countries) for 2¢/min or less. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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