Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... Regards Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* Dear Rafal, Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? Thanks || May all people be happy || OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava . swami_rcs mob 9412268768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Rafal Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... Regards Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Hare Rama krsna Pranam Srivastava-ji namaste...enclosed JHS file of william shakespheare.rafel-ji here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga. jus wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein. pranam swati On 8/18/06, R.C.Srivastava <swami_rcs > wrote: > > > *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* > Dear Rafal, > Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? > Thanks > > > > || May all people be happy || > OM TAT SAT > R.C.Srivastava . > swami_rcs > mob 9412268768 > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > - > ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> > *To:* > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA > > Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's > > How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from > this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? > Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Jyotisha, Here is the chart given by astrodatabank. May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] "R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote: *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* Dear Rafal, Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? Thanks || May all people be happy || OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava . swami_rcs mob 9412268768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Rafal Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... Regards Rafal Gendarz Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility. In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known person..The date of baptism is given in http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.. htm. Then i recalled about an article in astrologicalMagazine that apperaed in April 06 issueby Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation. So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles writing. "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga. just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein." Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say. Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective cancillation. May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay .Merc is Vargottam. No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter. I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa. So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the Third child of parent the two elders were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context. ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart. Thanks for reading so far. Now at First Swati says " - Michal Dziwulski Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Jyotisha, Here is the chart given by astrodatabank. May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] "R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote: *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* Dear Rafal, Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? Thanks || May all people be happy || OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava . swami_rcs mob 9412268768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Rafal Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... Regards Rafal Gendarz Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Swati, Namaskar. Debilitation of AK in Navamsa shows that the person will be a tyagi or will be highly dissatisfied with his material conditions. I think in Jataka Tatva (may be mistaken about reference) it is noted that AK in Meena will be a tyagi or will try to give up things easily in life for which most others struggle. I have Budha AK in Meena Navamsa in my chart and I know how it feels at times. For further interest, you can study chart of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Cancellation of Debility of AK in Navamsa or rasi gives significant improvement especially if the person is very very attached to Ishta-worship. I am not providing any comments on the chart being discussed. I am just speaking my thoughts in the context of AK in debility or in Meena navamsa. Best wishes, Sourav ========================================================================\ ===================================== , "healing spaces" <healingspaces wrote: > > Hare Rama krsna > Pranam Srivastava-ji > namaste...enclosed JHS file of william shakespheare.rafel-ji here mercury > lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter which is > in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga. > jus wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people > literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein. > pranam > swati > > > > > On 8/18/06, R.C.Srivastava swami_rcs wrote: > > > > > > *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* > > Dear Rafal, > > Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? > > Thanks > > > > > > > > || May all people be happy || > > OM TAT SAT > > R.C.Srivastava . > > swami_rcs > > mob 9412268768 > > http://www.cosmograce.com > > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > > > - > > ** Rafal starsuponme > > *To:* > > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM > > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > > > HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA > > > > Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's > > > > How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from > > this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? > > Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Hare Rama krsna : : Om gurave namah Pranam Shrivatav-ji namaste, i think u missed michael wrote 1964,which is 1564. As for credibility, i also picked from astrobank and databank available in the forums. moreover the data given by me is same as Michael ji other than year...which he mistyped i believe. As for speculation and rife ,,well we can only trust the given informaton, match it to his biography and believe our instincts. infact soem days back i was going through chart of lenardo da vinci, where there is difference in date due to julian and gregorian calendar, and also the words saying 'three hrs before the midnight' which in those days had different reference. if u have any reference in given chart of W. Shakespeare 9th lord jupiter and 2nd lord sun are exalted thus royal family and rich father may be indicated. while venus is 11th lord sitting in own house,may be indicative of elder sisters... i have read his work and but not read his lifescape to comment yet. As for astrology i am still slowly progressing with blessings of my guru and contributing in little way i can. pranam swati On 8/18/06, swamircs <swami_rcs > wrote: > > Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is > from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility. > In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found > that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and > surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known > person.The date of baptism is given in > http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.. htm. Then i recalled > about an article in astrologicalMagazine that apperaed in April 06 issueby > Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation. > So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken > reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles > writing. > "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted > jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause > neech-bhanga. > just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people > literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein." > > Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little > understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough > but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say. > Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books > but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective > cancillation. > May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay > .Merc is Vargottam. > No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life > full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are > pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter. > I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are > applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa. > So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father > was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to > the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the > Third child of parent the two elders > were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context. > > ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall > contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart. > Thanks for reading so far. > Now at First Swati says " > > - > ** Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > > *To:* > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Here is the chart given by astrodatabank. > May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > *"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs >* wrote: > > > *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* > Dear Rafal, > Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? > Thanks > > > > || May all people be happy || > OM TAT SAT > R.C.Srivastava . > swami_rcs > mob 9412268768 > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > - > ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> > *To:* > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA > > Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's > > How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from > this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? > Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------------------------ > Get your email and more, right on the new .com<http://us.rd./evt=42973/*http://www./preview> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Hare Rama krsna : : Om gurave namah Pranam Shrivatav-ji namaste, i think u missed michael wrote 1964,which is 1564. As for credibility, i also picked from astrobank and databank available in the forums. moreover the data given by me is same as Michael ji other than year...which he mistyped i believe. As for speculation and rife ,,well we can only trust the given informaton, match it to his biography and believe our instincts. infact soem days back i was going through chart of lenardo da vinci, where there is difference in date due to julian and gregorian calendar, and also the words saying 'three hrs before the midnight' which in those days had different reference. if u have any reference , please pass it to me. in given chart of W. Shakespeare 9th lord jupiter and 2nd lord sun are exalted thus royal family and rich father may be indicated. while venus is 11th lord sitting in own house,may be indicative of elder sisters... i have read his work and but not read his lifescape to comment yet. As for astrology i am still slowly progressing with blessings of my guru and contributing in little way i can. Sourav and shrivastav-ji .., thanks for that note on Ak . Are there any overriders for cancellation of MKS Atmakaraka planets and if not what effects? pranam swati - Hide quoted text - On 8/18/06, swamircs <swami_rcs > wrote: > > Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is > from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility. > In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found > that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and > surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known > person.The date of baptism is given in http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline > .. htm. Then i recalled about an article in astrologicalMagazine that > apperaed in April 06 issueby Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation. > So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken > reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles > writing. > "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted > jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause > neech-bhanga. > just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people > literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein." > > Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little > understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough > but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say. > Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books > but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective > cancillation. > May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay > .Merc is Vargottam. > No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life > full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are > pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter. > I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are > applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa. > So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father > was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to > the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the > Third child of parent the two elders > were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context. > > ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall > contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart. > Thanks for reading so far. > Now at First Swati says " > > - > ** Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > > *To:* > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Here is the chart given by astrodatabank. > May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > *"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs >* wrote: > > > *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* > Dear Rafal, > Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? > Thanks > > > > || May all people be happy || > OM TAT SAT > R.C.Srivastava . > swami_rcs > mob 9412268768 > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > - > ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> > *To:* > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA > > Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's > > How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from > this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? > Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------------------------ > Get your email and more, right on the new .com<http://us.rd./evt=42973/*http://www./preview> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Swati, Namaskar. > Are there any overriders for cancellation of MKS Atmakaraka planets and if > not what effects? - Worship of the devata of the graha who is the karaka of the MKS house. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Jyotisha's Ofcouurse Vargotam possition will connect His image to writing, there is no doubt about it. Of course the Neechabhanga is working. What im concerned is neecha-avastha of AK in navamsa. Exaltation means high ambition while debilitation is opposite, therefore it is strange for me that such type of person can be described as opposition to ambition. Atmakaraka if weakly placed can damage whole chart according to BHPS, so the navamsa debilitation is VERY damagind per Sarwarth cintamani and Deva Keralam. So doubt arise like that.. I have no problem with neecha-avastha in Rasi as Jupiter is very strong in lagna. These "contradictory" yogas in charts VERSUS reality are very important to know. These lesson will give carefulness in future predictions. Waitin for Guruji response.. Regards Rafal Gendarz , "swamircs" <swami_rcs wrote: > > Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility. > In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known person.The date of baptism is given in http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.. htm. Then i recalled about an article in astrologicalMagazine that apperaed in April 06 issueby Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation. > So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles writing. > "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga. > just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein." > > Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say. > Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective cancillation. > May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay .Merc is Vargottam. > No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter. > I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa. > So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the Third child of parent the two elders > were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context. > > ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart. > Thanks for reading so far. > Now at First Swati says " > - > Michal Dziwulski > > Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Here is the chart given by astrodatabank. > May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > "R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs wrote: > > > *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* > Dear Rafal, > Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare? > Thanks > > > > || May all people be happy || > OM TAT SAT > R.C.Srivastava . > swami_rcs > mob 9412268768 > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > - > Rafal > > Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem > > > HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA > > Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's > > How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from > this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare? > Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart... > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > - ----------- > Get your email and more, right on the new .com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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