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HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

 

Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

 

How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

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*|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

Dear Rafal,

Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare?

Thanks

 

 

 

|| May all people be happy ||

OM TAT SAT

R.C.Srivastava .

swami_rcs

mob 9412268768

http://www.cosmograce.com

http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

-

Rafal

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

 

 

HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

 

Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

 

How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

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Hare Rama krsna

Pranam Srivastava-ji

namaste...enclosed JHS file of william shakespheare.rafel-ji here mercury

lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter which is

in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga.

jus wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people

literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein.

pranam

swati

 

 

 

 

On 8/18/06, R.C.Srivastava <swami_rcs > wrote:

>

>

> *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

> Dear Rafal,

> Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare?

> Thanks

>

>

>

> || May all people be happy ||

> OM TAT SAT

> R.C.Srivastava .

> swami_rcs

> mob 9412268768

> http://www.cosmograce.com

> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

>

> -

> ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

> HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

>

> Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

>

> How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

> this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

> Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

>

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

 

Dear Jyotisha,

 

Here is the chart given by astrodatabank.

May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote:

 

*|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

Dear Rafal,

Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare?

Thanks

|| May all people be happy ||

OM TAT SAT

R.C.Srivastava .

swami_rcs

mob 9412268768

http://www.cosmograce.com

http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

-

Rafal

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

 

HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

 

Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

 

How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility.

In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known person..The date of baptism is given in http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.. htm. Then i recalled about an article in astrologicalMagazine that apperaed in April 06 issueby Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation.

So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles writing.

"here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga.

just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein."

 

Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say.

Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective cancillation.

May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay .Merc is Vargottam.

No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter.

I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa.

So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the Third child of parent the two elders

were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context.

 

ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart.

Thanks for reading so far.

Now at First Swati says "

-

Michal Dziwulski

Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

 

Dear Jyotisha,

 

Here is the chart given by astrodatabank.

May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote:

 

 

*|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

Dear Rafal,

Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare?

Thanks

 

 

 

|| May all people be happy ||

OM TAT SAT

R.C.Srivastava .

swami_rcs

mob 9412268768

http://www.cosmograce.com

http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

-

Rafal

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

 

 

HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

 

Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

 

How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swati,

 

Namaskar. Debilitation of AK in Navamsa shows that

the person will be a tyagi or will be highly dissatisfied with his

material conditions. I think in Jataka Tatva (may be mistaken about

reference) it is noted that AK in Meena will be a tyagi or will try to

give up things easily in life for which most others struggle. I have

Budha AK in Meena Navamsa in my chart and I know how it feels at times.

For further interest, you can study chart of Sri Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa. Cancellation of Debility of AK in Navamsa or rasi gives

significant improvement especially if the person is very very attached

to Ishta-worship.

 

I am not providing any comments on the chart being discussed. I am just

speaking my thoughts in the context of AK in debility or in Meena

navamsa.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

========================================================================\

=====================================

 

 

 

 

, "healing spaces"

<healingspaces wrote:

>

> Hare Rama krsna

> Pranam Srivastava-ji

> namaste...enclosed JHS file of william shakespheare.rafel-ji here

mercury

> lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted jupiter

which is

> in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause neech-bhanga.

> jus wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes

people

> literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein.

> pranam

> swati

>

>

>

>

> On 8/18/06, R.C.Srivastava swami_rcs wrote:

> >

> >

> > *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

> > Dear Rafal,

> > Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William

Shakespeare?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > || May all people be happy ||

> > OM TAT SAT

> > R.C.Srivastava .

> > swami_rcs

> > mob 9412268768

> > http://www.cosmograce.com

> > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

> >

> > -

> > ** Rafal starsuponme

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

> > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

> >

> > HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

> >

> > Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

> >

> > How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

> > this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

> > Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hare Rama krsna : : Om gurave namah

Pranam Shrivatav-ji

namaste, i think u missed michael wrote 1964,which is 1564. As for

credibility, i also picked from astrobank and databank available in the

forums. moreover the data given by me is same as Michael ji other than

year...which he mistyped i believe.

As for speculation and rife ,,well we can only trust the given informaton,

match it to his biography and believe our instincts.

 

infact soem days back i was going through chart of lenardo da vinci, where

there is difference in date due to julian and gregorian calendar, and also

the words saying 'three hrs before the midnight' which in those days had

different reference. if u have any reference

 

in given chart of W. Shakespeare 9th lord jupiter and 2nd lord sun are

exalted thus royal family and rich father may be indicated. while venus is

11th lord sitting in own house,may be indicative of elder sisters... i have

read his work and but not read his lifescape to comment yet. As for

astrology i am still slowly progressing with blessings of my guru and

contributing in little way i can.

 

pranam

swati

 

On 8/18/06, swamircs <swami_rcs > wrote:

>

> Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is

> from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility.

> In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found

> that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and

> surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known

> person.The date of baptism is given in

> http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.. htm. Then i recalled

> about an article in astrologicalMagazine that apperaed in April 06 issueby

> Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation.

> So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken

> reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles

> writing.

> "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted

> jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause

> neech-bhanga.

> just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people

> literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein."

>

> Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little

> understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough

> but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say.

> Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books

> but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective

> cancillation.

> May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay

> .Merc is Vargottam.

> No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life

> full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are

> pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter.

> I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are

> applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa.

> So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father

> was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to

> the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the

> Third child of parent the two elders

> were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context.

>

> ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall

> contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart.

> Thanks for reading so far.

> Now at First Swati says "

>

> -

> ** Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> Here is the chart given by astrodatabank.

> May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> *"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs >* wrote:

>

>

> *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

> Dear Rafal,

> Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare?

> Thanks

>

>

>

> || May all people be happy ||

> OM TAT SAT

> R.C.Srivastava .

> swami_rcs

> mob 9412268768

> http://www.cosmograce.com

> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

>

> -

> ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

> HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

>

> Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

>

> How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

> this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

> Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> ------------------------------

> Get your email and more, right on the new .com<http://us.rd./evt=42973/*http://www./preview>

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>

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Hare Rama krsna : : Om gurave namah

Pranam Shrivatav-ji

namaste, i think u missed michael wrote 1964,which is 1564. As for

credibility, i also picked from astrobank and databank available in the

forums. moreover the data given by me is same as Michael ji other than

year...which he mistyped i believe.

As for speculation and rife ,,well we can only trust the given informaton,

match it to his biography and believe our instincts.

 

infact soem days back i was going through chart of lenardo da vinci, where

there is difference in date due to julian and gregorian calendar, and also

the words saying 'three hrs before the midnight' which in those days had

different reference. if u have any reference , please pass it to me.

 

in given chart of W. Shakespeare 9th lord jupiter and 2nd lord sun are

exalted thus royal family and rich father may be indicated. while venus is

11th lord sitting in own house,may be indicative of elder sisters... i have

read his work and but not read his lifescape to comment yet. As for

astrology i am still slowly progressing with blessings of my guru and

contributing in little way i can.

 

Sourav and shrivastav-ji .., thanks for that note on Ak .

 

Are there any overriders for cancellation of MKS Atmakaraka planets and if

not what effects?

 

pranam

swati

- Hide quoted text -

 

 

On 8/18/06, swamircs <swami_rcs > wrote:

>

> Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states data is

> from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility.

> In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and found

> that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are speculative. and

> surprisingly web gave an impression that writing were from some less known

> person.The date of baptism is given in http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline

> .. htm. Then i recalled about an article in astrologicalMagazine that

> apperaed in April 06 issueby Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation.

> So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be taken

> reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with Dr Wagles

> writing.

> "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of exalted

> jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able to cause

> neech-bhanga.

> just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes people

> literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein."

>

> Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little

> understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not enough

> but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is having a say.

> Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books and books

> but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in case of ineffective

> cancillation.

> May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of 3 rdMay

> .Merc is Vargottam.

> No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole life

> full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are

> pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter.

> I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are

> applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa.

> So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His father

> was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined after 1577 to

> the extent he suffered disgarce and died under debt.Shakespeare was the

> Third child of parent the two elders

> were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context.

>

> ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i shall

> contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart.

> Thanks for reading so far.

> Now at First Swati says "

>

> -

> ** Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> Here is the chart given by astrodatabank.

> May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> *"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs >* wrote:

>

>

> *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

> Dear Rafal,

> Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William Shakespeare?

> Thanks

>

>

>

> || May all people be happy ||

> OM TAT SAT

> R.C.Srivastava .

> swami_rcs

> mob 9412268768

> http://www.cosmograce.com

> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

>

> -

> ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

> HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

>

> Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

>

> How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or fame from

> this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

> Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong chart...

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> ------------------------------

> Get your email and more, right on the new .com<http://us.rd./evt=42973/*http://www./preview>

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>

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swati,

 

Namaskar.

> Are there any overriders for cancellation of MKS Atmakaraka planets

and if

> not what effects?

 

 

- Worship of the devata of the graha who is the karaka of the MKS house.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Jyotisha's

 

Ofcouurse Vargotam possition will connect His image to writing,

there is no doubt about it. Of course the Neechabhanga is working.

What im concerned is neecha-avastha of AK in navamsa. Exaltation

means high ambition while debilitation is opposite, therefore it is

strange for me that such type of person can be described as

opposition to ambition. Atmakaraka if weakly placed can damage whole

chart according to BHPS, so the navamsa debilitation is VERY

damagind per Sarwarth cintamani and Deva Keralam. So doubt arise

like that.. I have no problem with neecha-avastha in Rasi as Jupiter

is very strong in lagna.

 

These "contradictory" yogas in charts VERSUS reality are very

important to know. These lesson will give carefulness in future

predictions. Waitin for Guruji response..

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

, "swamircs" <swami_rcs

wrote:

>

> Dear Michal ,swati Thanks for prompt response.Sh Michal states

data is from astrodatabank.So this chart be given credibility.

> In fact when i saw Sh Rafal 's posting i started searching web and

found that detailed information about Shakespeare birth are

speculative. and surprisingly web gave an impression that writing

were from some less known person.The date of baptism is given in

http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.. htm. Then i

recalled about an article in astrologicalMagazine that apperaed in

April 06 issueby Dr Wagle, that is also full of speculation.

> So chart could be of use for academic interest and can not be

taken reliable.Even dates and planetary positions do not tally with

Dr Wagles writing.

> "here mercury lies in kendra to moon , while there is a aspect of

exalted jupiter which is in kendra to lagna, wouldn't this be able

to cause neech-bhanga.

> just wondering if debilated mercury is all that weak, if it makes

people literary and scholarly like shakespheare or einstein."

>

> Swati many times question of Neechbhanga is debated , my little

understanding tells me to take that conditions of Neechbhanga is not

enough but their multiplicity and strength of Cancelling planet is

having a say.

> Pt Rath once jokingly commented a man will have all around books

and books but may not have wisdom, such can beMercury's effect in

case of ineffective cancillation.

> May be my memory failing in understanding but in case of Chart of

3 rdMay .Merc is Vargottam.

> No need for cancillation it self.It is AK the king in office.Whole

life full of manifestations through language. thoughts that are

pictersque.specially its dispositor is exaled Jupiter.

> I am certain It is difficult chart for Three conditional dasa are

applicable Sataabdika, Dwi-saptati sama dasa and panchottari dasa.

> So one need to work more to asses correctness of chart first.His

father was a fairly rich and in Government whose fortunes declined

after 1577 to the extent he suffered disgarce and died under

debt.Shakespeare was the Third child of parent the two elders

> were Sisters. Sorry i am going out of context.

>

> ForSh rafal observation . i have to understand his question and i

shall contribute tomorrow what i undestandfrom chart.

> Thanks for reading so far.

> Now at First Swati says "

> -

> Michal Dziwulski

>

> Friday, August 18, 2006 5:10 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> Here is the chart given by astrodatabank.

> May 3rd, 1964, 8:30am, 0:07west, 1w41 - 52n12.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> "R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs wrote:

>

>

> *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*

> Dear Rafal,

> Nameste,Chart data be posted You are examining for William

Shakespeare?

> Thanks

>

>

>

> || May all people be happy ||

> OM TAT SAT

> R.C.Srivastava .

> swami_rcs

> mob 9412268768

> http://www.cosmograce.com

> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com

> -

> Rafal

>

> Friday, August 18, 2006 4:00 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Shakespeare Dillem

>

>

> HRAUM NAMAH ADITYAYA

>

> Dear Guruji & Other Jyotisha's

>

> How can neecha-ak(rise denied) Buddha(writting skils, or

fame from

> this at least)(!) exists in chart of William Shakespeare?

> Comments are welcome:) Pls. tell me that I have wrong

chart...

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

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