Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji For all bulk gains / unearned gains - role of 8th lord and 5th lord (and houses) are critical. I have predicted in past quite sucessfully, with 8th house. regards / Prafulla Gang If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > > rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:49:24 -0000 > > Re: 8th house and disappointments > > That has got no connection. On the contrary if connection is there > then it indicates losses. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Can one earn from lottery / speculation, without fortified 8th > house and 8th lord ? >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >> >> >>> >>> rajiventerprises >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:57 -0000 >>> >>> Re: 8th house and disappointments >>> >>> Sorry aapko late jawab diya. Soch kar dena padta hai aapko jara. >>> >>> I would see lottery, speculation, share market from 5th house, >>> investments in Mutual Funds and alike from 12th house, >>> and lotteries from 5th house too, >>> >>> But Business money i would see from 6th House. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> what about lottery, money from business !!! >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't > life >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> rajiventerprises@ >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:02:48 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: 8th house and disappointments >>>>> >>>>> Dear, >>>>> >>>>> Among the good attributes which can be recd. from the 8th house. >>>>> >>>>> -Long life. >>>>> -properties of wife recd. as stree dhan. >>>>> -others money recd. to study. >>>>> >>>>> But whatever money/wealth is recd, will come only after some >>>>> unhappiness Ghatna (Incident)for ex. Get inheritance of fathers >>>>> wealth after his death, Get Funds, Gratuity, after retired from >>>>> service or expelled from service, Insurance money after some > limb >>>>> lost by accident, >>>>> and also dowry money (Dowry does not always come in with > respect). >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Vivek ji >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks for posting your research capsule. >>>>>> >>>>>> When does 8th lord / planets in 8th can give good results, not >>> the >>>>> disappointments? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I know few, posting here for reference: >>>>>> >>>>>> 8th house is the only house - along with 5th - which can bless >>> huge >>>>> wealth. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2nd lord in 8th is preferred than being in 2nd. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7th lord in 8th ensures contunity of married life. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't >>> life >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> viveck2001@ >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:16:41 -0000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8th house and disappointments >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>> There are two terms disappointment and the > second >>> is >>>>>>> depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. > In >>>>>>> our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers > takes >>>>>>> its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I >>> will >>>>>>> discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above >>>>> word. >>>>>>> first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no >>> planets) >>>>>>> in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet >>> like >>>>>>> saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person) >>>>> allmost >>>>>>> alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like >>> mars, >>>>>>> ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes >>> cause >>>>>>> of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but > if >>>>> they >>>>>>> owns this house disappointent >>>>>>> level also increase with the same strenth. Here some > astrologers >>>>>>> can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if >>>>> that >>>>>>> is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated >>>>> always >>>>>>> gives very >>>>>>> bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if > it >>>>> is >>>>>>> in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated >>> and >>>>>>> with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in > 5th >>>>>>> house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in >>>>>>> conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in >>>>>>> dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then > it >>>>>>> is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not > disturbing >>>>>>> moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative >>>>>>> role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th >>> lord >>>>>>> with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed >>>>>>> with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart > and >>>>>>> only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some >>>>> harmony. >>>>>>> example: >>>>>>> (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it >>> happened >>>>>>> see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. >>>>>>> (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is >>>>> harmonius >>>>>>> that will happen. >>>>>>> Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of > 8th >>>>>>> house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is >>>>> one of >>>>>>> unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not >>>>>>> good can give great dissappointments. >>>>>>> For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can >>>>>>> estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. >>>>>>> At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to >>> its >>>>>>> nature always cause of dissappointments. >>>>>>> Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. >>>>>>> vivek >>>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>> features! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>> >> >> __________ >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > friends and family! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >> __________ PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN & COMPUTER - Monitor and manage activity on your computer! Visit http://www.crawlerparental.com/install and find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Prafullaji, This has already been discussed when I had mentioned the positives of 8th house. Your question was whether can one "Earn" without fortified 8th house or 8th lord, for which my answer still remains that except for what I have mentioned in the positives, which You have repeated again, a person cannot earn through the 8th house. Speculative earnings or lottery come in the category of 5th house. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > For all bulk gains / unearned gains - role of 8th lord and 5th lord (and houses) are critical. I have predicted in past quite sucessfully, with 8th house. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > > > > > > rajiventerprises > > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:49:24 -0000 > > > > Re: 8th house and disappointments > > > > That has got no connection. On the contrary if connection is there > > then it indicates losses. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Can one earn from lottery / speculation, without fortified 8th > > house and 8th lord ? > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life > > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> rajiventerprises@ > >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:57 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: 8th house and disappointments > >>> > >>> Sorry aapko late jawab diya. Soch kar dena padta hai aapko jara. > >>> > >>> I would see lottery, speculation, share market from 5th house, > >>> investments in Mutual Funds and alike from 12th house, > >>> and lotteries from 5th house too, > >>> > >>> But Business money i would see from 6th House. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> what about lottery, money from business !!! > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't > > life > >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> rajiventerprises@ > >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:02:48 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: 8th house and disappointments > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear, > >>>>> > >>>>> Among the good attributes which can be recd. from the 8th house. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Long life. > >>>>> -properties of wife recd. as stree dhan. > >>>>> -others money recd. to study. > >>>>> > >>>>> But whatever money/wealth is recd, will come only after some > >>>>> unhappiness Ghatna (Incident)for ex. Get inheritance of fathers > >>>>> wealth after his death, Get Funds, Gratuity, after retired from > >>>>> service or expelled from service, Insurance money after some > > limb > >>>>> lost by accident, > >>>>> and also dowry money (Dowry does not always come in with > > respect). > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Vivek ji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many thanks for posting your research capsule. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When does 8th lord / planets in 8th can give good results, not > >>> the > >>>>> disappointments? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I know few, posting here for reference: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is the only house - along with 5th - which can bless > >>> huge > >>>>> wealth. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2nd lord in 8th is preferred than being in 2nd. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 7th lord in 8th ensures contunity of married life. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't > >>> life > >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> viveck2001@ > >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:16:41 -0000 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 8th house and disappointments > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear members, > >>>>>>> There are two terms disappointment and the > > second > >>> is > >>>>>>> depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. > > In > >>>>>>> our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers > > takes > >>>>>>> its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I > >>> will > >>>>>>> discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above > >>>>> word. > >>>>>>> first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no > >>> planets) > >>>>>>> in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet > >>> like > >>>>>>> saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person) > >>>>> allmost > >>>>>>> alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like > >>> mars, > >>>>>>> ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes > >>> cause > >>>>>>> of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but > > if > >>>>> they > >>>>>>> owns this house disappointent > >>>>>>> level also increase with the same strenth. Here some > > astrologers > >>>>>>> can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if > >>>>> that > >>>>>>> is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated > >>>>> always > >>>>>>> gives very > >>>>>>> bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if > > it > >>>>> is > >>>>>>> in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated > >>> and > >>>>>>> with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in > > 5th > >>>>>>> house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in > >>>>>>> conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in > >>>>>>> dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then > > it > >>>>>>> is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not > > disturbing > >>>>>>> moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative > >>>>>>> role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th > >>> lord > >>>>>>> with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed > >>>>>>> with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart > > and > >>>>>>> only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some > >>>>> harmony. > >>>>>>> example: > >>>>>>> (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it > >>> happened > >>>>>>> see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. > >>>>>>> (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is > >>>>> harmonius > >>>>>>> that will happen. > >>>>>>> Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of > > 8th > >>>>>>> house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is > >>>>> one of > >>>>>>> unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not > >>>>>>> good can give great dissappointments. > >>>>>>> For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can > >>>>>>> estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. > >>>>>>> At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to > >>> its > >>>>>>> nature always cause of dissappointments. > >>>>>>> Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. > >>>>>>> vivek > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> __________ > >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > >>> features! > >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >>>> > >> > >> __________ > >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > > friends and family! > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > >> > > __________ > PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN & COMPUTER - Monitor and manage activity on your computer! > Visit http://www.crawlerparental.com/install and find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Prafullji, What happens if there is mercury in 5th house debilitated beign 8th house lord in scorpion. Mercury is in exchange with Jupiter in 11th House and venus exalted in 5th house as well. As per my analysis it is a tremendous speculation money-givign yoga. May God Bless All Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji For all bulk gains / unearned gains - role of 8th lord and 5th lord (and houses) are critical. I have predicted in past quite sucessfully, with 8th house. regards / Prafulla Gang If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > > rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:49:24 -0000 > > Re: 8th house and disappointments > > That has got no connection. On the contrary if connection is there > then it indicates losses. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Can one earn from lottery / speculation, without fortified 8th > house and 8th lord ? >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >> >> >>> >>> rajiventerprises >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:57 -0000 >>> >>> Re: 8th house and disappointments >>> >>> Sorry aapko late jawab diya. Soch kar dena padta hai aapko jara. >>> >>> I would see lottery, speculation, share market from 5th house, >>> investments in Mutual Funds and alike from 12th house, >>> and lotteries from 5th house too, >>> >>> But Business money i would see from 6th House. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> what about lottery, money from business !!! >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't > life >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> rajiventerprises@ >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:02:48 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: 8th house and disappointments >>>>> >>>>> Dear, >>>>> >>>>> Among the good attributes which can be recd. from the 8th house. >>>>> >>>>> -Long life. >>>>> -properties of wife recd. as stree dhan. >>>>> -others money recd. to study. >>>>> >>>>> But whatever money/wealth is recd, will come only after some >>>>> unhappiness Ghatna (Incident)for ex. Get inheritance of fathers >>>>> wealth after his death, Get Funds, Gratuity, after retired from >>>>> service or expelled from service, Insurance money after some > limb >>>>> lost by accident, >>>>> and also dowry money (Dowry does not always come in with > respect). >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Vivek ji >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks for posting your research capsule. >>>>>> >>>>>> When does 8th lord / planets in 8th can give good results, not >>> the >>>>> disappointments? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I know few, posting here for reference: >>>>>> >>>>>> 8th house is the only house - along with 5th - which can bless >>> huge >>>>> wealth. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2nd lord in 8th is preferred than being in 2nd. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7th lord in 8th ensures contunity of married life. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't >>> life >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> viveck2001@ >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:16:41 -0000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8th house and disappointments >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>> There are two terms disappointment and the > second >>> is >>>>>>> depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. > In >>>>>>> our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers > takes >>>>>>> its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I >>> will >>>>>>> discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above >>>>> word. >>>>>>> first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no >>> planets) >>>>>>> in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet >>> like >>>>>>> saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person) >>>>> allmost >>>>>>> alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like >>> mars, >>>>>>> ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes >>> cause >>>>>>> of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but > if >>>>> they >>>>>>> owns this house disappointent >>>>>>> level also increase with the same strenth. Here some > astrologers >>>>>>> can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if >>>>> that >>>>>>> is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated >>>>> always >>>>>>> gives very >>>>>>> bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if > it >>>>> is >>>>>>> in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated >>> and >>>>>>> with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in > 5th >>>>>>> house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in >>>>>>> conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in >>>>>>> dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then > it >>>>>>> is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not > disturbing >>>>>>> moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative >>>>>>> role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th >>> lord >>>>>>> with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed >>>>>>> with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart > and >>>>>>> only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some >>>>> harmony. >>>>>>> example: >>>>>>> (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it >>> happened >>>>>>> see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. >>>>>>> (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is >>>>> harmonius >>>>>>> that will happen. >>>>>>> Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of > 8th >>>>>>> house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is >>>>> one of >>>>>>> unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not >>>>>>> good can give great dissappointments. >>>>>>> For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can >>>>>>> estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. >>>>>>> At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to >>> its >>>>>>> nature always cause of dissappointments. >>>>>>> Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. >>>>>>> vivek >>>>>> >>>> >>>> ________ >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>> features! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>> >> >> ________ >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > friends and family! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >> ________ PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN & COMPUTER - Monitor and manage activity on your computer! Visit http://www.crawlerparental.com/install and find out more! ACA Sumit Bajaj Consultant (Astrologer and Technical Analyst) "Keep smiling and be positive with confidence" Contact: +91-98300-84593 Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Sumitji, Me and Prafullaji were talking of solitary 8th house or 8th Lord being fortified.,for earning money. We were not talking of exchanges. If we talk of exchanges then Lord of 8th house who are having dual ownership too, there will be hundreds of cases where we can show lots of money being earned by speculation or so many other matters. In your example You are bringing 3 planets in play to form that Yoga which I am not going into to check, as it will take more time. regards, Bhaskar. , Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000 wrote: > > Dear Prafullji, > > What happens if there is mercury in 5th house debilitated beign 8th house lord in scorpion. Mercury is in exchange with Jupiter in 11th House and venus exalted in 5th house as well. As per my analysis it is a tremendous speculation money-givign yoga. > > May God Bless All > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji > > For all bulk gains / unearned gains - role of 8th lord and 5th lord (and houses) are critical. I have predicted in past quite sucessfully, with 8th house. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > > > > > rajiventerprises > > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:49:24 -0000 > > > > Re: 8th house and disappointments > > > > That has got no connection. On the contrary if connection is there > > then it indicates losses. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Can one earn from lottery / speculation, without fortified 8th > > house and 8th lord ? > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life > > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> rajiventerprises@ > >>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:57 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: 8th house and disappointments > >>> > >>> Sorry aapko late jawab diya. Soch kar dena padta hai aapko jara. > >>> > >>> I would see lottery, speculation, share market from 5th house, > >>> investments in Mutual Funds and alike from 12th house, > >>> and lotteries from 5th house too, > >>> > >>> But Business money i would see from 6th House. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> what about lottery, money from business !!! > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't > > life > >>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> rajiventerprises@ > >>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:02:48 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: 8th house and disappointments > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear, > >>>>> > >>>>> Among the good attributes which can be recd. from the 8th house. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Long life. > >>>>> -properties of wife recd. as stree dhan. > >>>>> -others money recd. to study. > >>>>> > >>>>> But whatever money/wealth is recd, will come only after some > >>>>> unhappiness Ghatna (Incident)for ex. Get inheritance of fathers > >>>>> wealth after his death, Get Funds, Gratuity, after retired from > >>>>> service or expelled from service, Insurance money after some > > limb > >>>>> lost by accident, > >>>>> and also dowry money (Dowry does not always come in with > > respect). > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Vivek ji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many thanks for posting your research capsule. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When does 8th lord / planets in 8th can give good results, not > >>> the > >>>>> disappointments? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I know few, posting here for reference: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is the only house - along with 5th - which can bless > >>> huge > >>>>> wealth. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2nd lord in 8th is preferred than being in 2nd. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 7th lord in 8th ensures contunity of married life. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't > >>> life > >>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> viveck2001@ > >>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:16:41 -0000 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 8th house and disappointments > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear members, > >>>>>>> There are two terms disappointment and the > > second > >>> is > >>>>>>> depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. > > In > >>>>>>> our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers > > takes > >>>>>>> its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I > >>> will > >>>>>>> discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above > >>>>> word. > >>>>>>> first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no > >>> planets) > >>>>>>> in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet > >>> like > >>>>>>> saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person) > >>>>> allmost > >>>>>>> alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like > >>> mars, > >>>>>>> ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes > >>> cause > >>>>>>> of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but > > if > >>>>> they > >>>>>>> owns this house disappointent > >>>>>>> level also increase with the same strenth. Here some > > astrologers > >>>>>>> can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if > >>>>> that > >>>>>>> is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated > >>>>> always > >>>>>>> gives very > >>>>>>> bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if > > it > >>>>> is > >>>>>>> in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated > >>> and > >>>>>>> with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in > > 5th > >>>>>>> house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in > >>>>>>> conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in > >>>>>>> dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then > > it > >>>>>>> is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not > > disturbing > >>>>>>> moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative > >>>>>>> role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th > >>> lord > >>>>>>> with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed > >>>>>>> with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart > > and > >>>>>>> only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some > >>>>> harmony. > >>>>>>> example: > >>>>>>> (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it > >>> happened > >>>>>>> see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. > >>>>>>> (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is > >>>>> harmonius > >>>>>>> that will happen. > >>>>>>> Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of > > 8th > >>>>>>> house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is > >>>>> one of > >>>>>>> unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not > >>>>>>> good can give great dissappointments. > >>>>>>> For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can > >>>>>>> estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. > >>>>>>> At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to > >>> its > >>>>>>> nature always cause of dissappointments. > >>>>>>> Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. > >>>>>>> vivek > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________ > >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > >>> features! > >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >>>> > >> > >> ________ > >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > > friends and family! > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > >> > > ________ > PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN & COMPUTER - Monitor and manage activity on your computer! > Visit http://www.crawlerparental.com/install and find out more! > > > > > > ACA Sumit Bajaj > Consultant > (Astrologer and Technical Analyst) > "Keep smiling and be positive with confidence" > Contact: +91-98300-84593 > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Sumit ji I rate 8th lord very high for bulk gains (all bulk gains , even sudden royal gifts - speculation and others are recent phenomenon) if it has connection with 5th house (debilitated planet and exalted planets - both give good materialistic gains). and if it has relationship with 11th lord and exalted venus in 5th; and it consolidates the gain. The only factor - required to support the sustainenance is LL / lagna's strength. How is mars placed in the chart? One more thing, look at the role of sun too (natural significator of speculations / royal favours). Jupiter's aspect (or exchange) will also indicate good brokerage income. At one stage of my jyotish pursuance - I analysed large data for dhan yoga (my greedy mind !!), and discussed with very good astrologers. They always pointed me to 8th house and 5th house for the gains. I am sure of the role of 8th house (look at 8th house - 4th from 5th; 2nd from 7th; 11th from 10th; 9th from 11th etc). Ravana Samhita has listed lot many principles for dhan yoga from 8th (specially, what I recall - venus and jupiter in 8th ). 8th is malefic from health / fatalistic accidents perspective. If it has moola trikona sign - then, its lord will afflict the houses occupied / aspected (more so, it is at bhava madhya). regards / Prafulla Gang If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > > sumitbajaj2000 > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:14:51 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: 8th house and disappointments > > Dear Prafullji, > > What happens if there is mercury in 5th house debilitated beign 8th > house lord in scorpion. Mercury is in exchange with Jupiter in 11th House > and venus exalted in 5th house as well. As per my analysis it is a > tremendous speculation money-givign yoga. > > May God Bless All > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji > > For all bulk gains / unearned gains - role of 8th lord and 5th lord (and > houses) are critical. I have predicted in past quite sucessfully, with > 8th house. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be > grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. > >> >> rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com >> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:49:24 -0000 >> >> Re: 8th house and disappointments >> >> That has got no connection. On the contrary if connection is there >> then it indicates losses. >> >> regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish >> wrote: >>> >>> Can one earn from lottery / speculation, without fortified 8th >> house and 8th lord ? >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life >> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> rajiventerprises >>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:57 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: 8th house and disappointments >>>> >>>> Sorry aapko late jawab diya. Soch kar dena padta hai aapko jara. >>>> >>>> I would see lottery, speculation, share market from 5th house, >>>> investments in Mutual Funds and alike from 12th house, >>>> and lotteries from 5th house too, >>>> >>>> But Business money i would see from 6th House. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Bhaskar. >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> what about lottery, money from business !!! >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't >> life >>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> rajiventerprises@ >>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:02:48 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: 8th house and disappointments >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear, >>>>>> >>>>>> Among the good attributes which can be recd. from the 8th house. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Long life. >>>>>> -properties of wife recd. as stree dhan. >>>>>> -others money recd. to study. >>>>>> >>>>>> But whatever money/wealth is recd, will come only after some >>>>>> unhappiness Ghatna (Incident)for ex. Get inheritance of fathers >>>>>> wealth after his death, Get Funds, Gratuity, after retired from >>>>>> service or expelled from service, Insurance money after some >> limb >>>>>> lost by accident, >>>>>> and also dowry money (Dowry does not always come in with >> respect). >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >> <jyotish@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Vivek ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks for posting your research capsule. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When does 8th lord / planets in 8th can give good results, not >>>> the >>>>>> disappointments? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know few, posting here for reference: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8th house is the only house - along with 5th - which can bless >>>> huge >>>>>> wealth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2nd lord in 8th is preferred than being in 2nd. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7th lord in 8th ensures contunity of married life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't >>>> life >>>>>> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> viveck2001@ >>>>>>>> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:16:41 -0000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 8th house and disappointments >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>> There are two terms disappointment and the >> second >>>> is >>>>>>>> depression. Here I am going to discuss about disappointments. >> In >>>>>>>> our chart 8th house is very important. So many astrologers >> takes >>>>>>>> its importance or call it house of accident,death etc which I >>>> will >>>>>>>> discuss later now i am going to concentrate only on the above >>>>>> word. >>>>>>>> first see this house in your chart ok. Is this empety(no >>>> planets) >>>>>>>> in this house. This is very good for you. Because the planet >>>> like >>>>>>>> saturn karka also plays a very negative role(makes a person) >>>>>> allmost >>>>>>>> alone(good for age matters). Now second if some planet like >>>> mars, >>>>>>>> ketu and sun occupying this house gives bad effects becomes >>>> cause >>>>>>>> of several disappointments(nature is somewhat very rash) but >> if >>>>>> they >>>>>>>> owns this house disappointent >>>>>>>> level also increase with the same strenth. Here some >> astrologers >>>>>>>> can say a planet not destroy his own house. No sir a planet if >>>>>> that >>>>>>>> is in his house if in transit it becomes vakri or debiliated >>>>>> always >>>>>>>> gives very >>>>>>>> bad results.Because planet behaves just like ruling planet if >> it >>>>>> is >>>>>>>> in its own house. Now see where eighth house lord is situated >>>> and >>>>>>>> with whom. Disappointment level again increases if it is in >> 5th >>>>>>>> house or 1st house and if it is with moon. Yes if moon is in >>>>>>>> conjuction with 8th lord, then moon dasha allmost go in >>>>>>>> dissappointments. if moon is the 8th owner(dhanu lagan). then >> it >>>>>>>> is very neceassary to see some cruel planet must not >> disturbing >>>>>>>> moon. Other wise the planet in conj. with moon play a negative >>>>>>>> role in its dasha. If both the conditions satisfy I mean 8th >>>> lord >>>>>>>> with bad planets or itself not good and moon also badly placed >>>>>>>> with fifth house also damaged then that becomes a bad chart >> and >>>>>>>> only remedies with changing dasha antar dasha can keep some >>>>>> harmony. >>>>>>>> example: >>>>>>>> (1) You never expected this thing can happen but it >>>> happened >>>>>>>> see somewhere your 8th house that is playing a very big role. >>>>>>>> (2) Something which looks impossible if 8th house is >>>>>> harmonius >>>>>>>> that will happen. >>>>>>>> Always take care the planets visiting in 8th house, Dasha of >> 8th >>>>>>>> house lord, Dasha of the planets in 8th house. Because this is >>>>>> one of >>>>>>>> unimaginable house which can take you to the skies and if not >>>>>>>> good can give great dissappointments. >>>>>>>> For a good astrologer 8th house must be very good. We can >>>>>>>> estimate the level of skill from his 8th house. >>>>>>>> At last again if moon is there in 8th with planets opposite to >>>> its >>>>>>>> nature always cause of dissappointments. >>>>>>>> Above all based upon my own research and any comments welcome. >>>>>>>> vivek >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________ >>>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>>> features! >>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>>> >>> >>> ________ >>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your >> friends and family! >>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >>> > > ________ > PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN & COMPUTER - Monitor and manage activity on your > computer! > Visit http://www.crawlerparental.com/install and find out more! > > > > > > ACA Sumit Bajaj > Consultant > (Astrologer and Technical Analyst) > "Keep smiling and be positive with confidence" > Contact: +91-98300-84593 > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 dear sri bhaskar, thanks for ur reply. I just have a doubt. Merc and venus in 10th from the moon (kanya rasi)along with sun. is it because of sun the amala effects get reduced? I retired from my company this year june so I got my retirement benefits so the 11th lord(ie 8th form lagna) from the 10th as per ur observation. My parents passed away inthe yr 1999 & 2002. My mother had a mixed amount of happy and very unhappy life. she did died of colon cancer which was really unbearable sight tosee her suffer for 6months. thanks for sparing ur valuable time, may god shower upon u all the best, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Gopu Ji Would you like to share your birth details for my study purpose ? Best Wishes Jagdish K Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: dear sri bhaskar, thanks for ur reply. I just have a doubt. Merc and venus in 10th from the moon (kanya rasi)along with sun. is it because of sun the amala effects get reduced? I retired from my company this year june so I got my retirement benefits so the 11th lord(ie 8th form lagna) from the 10th as per ur observation. My parents passed away inthe yr 1999 & 2002. My mother had a mixed amount of happy and very unhappy life. she did died of colon cancer which was really unbearable sight tosee her suffer for 6months. thanks for sparing ur valuable time, may god shower upon u all the best, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 dear jagadish, my birth details are, 14th june 1948. time 4.45pm place : mayavaram(near tanjore) long:79*E 42" lat: 11*N 6" Looking forward to ur observations in my chart. with good wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Hello Gopu Ji, Greetings My observations are 1) You are confident or i should say over-confident and its in the range of "arrogance." 2) You have/had a very high status position. 3) You earned well in life and expenditures were also as high as income. 4) Saturn/Mercury is running. You are bound to get some unearned gain BUT it will not be an easy road. 5) How was your time from 1968 to 1986 ? I feel that you must be enjoying good status in job over this time period with with disease or some litigation on some point. Please let me how much correct i am. I would like to go furthur if i am right. Best Wishes Jagdish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Jagdish. Since I have not made or studied the chart of Gopuji, I shall reserve my comments , for later on when I study it. But one thing, I did not find any arrogance in few weeks reading his communications, in his tone of writing, so I feel some injustice may be there. You may rephrase Your sentence "You are confident or i should say very much confident at times and people may find You arrogant,due to this over confidence, though You may be not." Are bhai maaro, magar pyaar se. Kato magar meethi churi se. Native ko baat batao magar tareeke se. Appreciate Your attempt to solve the puzzle namely Gopuji, keep coming. regards, Bhaskar. , "upaoakcrest" <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Hello Gopu Ji, > > Greetings > > My observations are > > 1) You are confident or i should say over-confident and its in the > range of "arrogance." > > 2) You have/had a very high status position. > > 3) You earned well in life and expenditures were also as high as > income. > > 4) Saturn/Mercury is running. You are bound to get some unearned > gain BUT it will not be an easy road. > > 5) How was your time from 1968 to 1986 ? I feel that you must be > enjoying good status in job over this time period with with disease > or some litigation on some point. > > Please let me how much correct i am. I would like to go furthur if i > am right. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Thank you Bhaskar Ji, I dont mean to say anything bad to GopuJi but i could not find other mild words to represent myself as i am a novice. Best Wishes Jagdish Bhaskar <rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Jagdish. Since I have not made or studied the chart of Gopuji, I shall reserve my comments , for later on when I study it. But one thing, I did not find any arrogance in few weeks reading his communications, in his tone of writing, so I feel some injustice may be there. You may rephrase Your sentence "You are confident or i should say very much confident at times and people may find You arrogant,due to this over confidence, though You may be not." Are bhai maaro, magar pyaar se. Kato magar meethi churi se. Native ko baat batao magar tareeke se. Appreciate Your attempt to solve the puzzle namely Gopuji, keep coming. regards, Bhaskar. , "upaoakcrest" <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Hello Gopu Ji, > > Greetings > > My observations are > > 1) You are confident or i should say over-confident and its in the > range of "arrogance." > > 2) You have/had a very high status position. > > 3) You earned well in life and expenditures were also as high as > income. > > 4) Saturn/Mercury is running. You are bound to get some unearned > gain BUT it will not be an easy road. > > 5) How was your time from 1968 to 1986 ? I feel that you must be > enjoying good status in job over this time period with with disease > or some litigation on some point. > > Please let me how much correct i am. I would like to go furthur if i > am right. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 dear Mr.Jagadish, thanks for the interest u had evinced in my horoscope. ur observations as such, i am confident but not arrogant I didnt occupy high status,I was working as a Medical representative. but my job was very,very comfortable without higher ups interference maybe due to vipareeta raj yoga. I was an office bearer in my association which in turn gave me a bit of an authority and at the same time all the higher ups were very appreciative of my work and in particular to my sincerity. my earnings were not very high when compared to present day software industry but at the same time I could tailor my life as per my earnings, since ketu in 12th which acts as a scissor curtailing desires and expenses. 1968 -1986 period was very uncertain, because I started a pharma mfg company with 3more people and after 4yrs of operation we had to wind up because of the accumulated losses. After 1986 there was a gradual growth in the income though struggles were there but could withstand. it is because of Guru dasa though Jupiter doesnt confer much of wealth but it never lets u down at the hour of need. I am very much settled now over here at chennai with children at abroad. with my limited knowledge in astrology I have given an over view of the happenings. I am trying to learn astrology thro contributors from this site not with the intention of making money. once again thank u for the observation good luck, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 dear Bhaskar, I am happy to note ur observation in regards to my behaviour. I admit I have never been arrogant, i always have a feeling that I am lucky to be placed like this whereas millions arent having any of the bear essentials. my heart always goes to such people. I have replied to Mr.jagadish's observations giving the factual position. with good wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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