BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8 p2

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Prashantji....my name is ganesh...(lol)

 

now thanks for your post...this is exactly what i referred as i have

seen many cases and it is my personal view that marriage analysis

taking 7th house alone these days may not give you fair

predictions...

these days relations never fit in the five types of marriage like

gandharva, sakun, mind etc., (if u know the five types, please list

it for me)...it is more of a convenience happening...in that case,

just taking 7th house may be misleading for me...rather i would like

to see wholistic picture of the chart and then decide what is what..?

 

now coming to another interesting aspect on this issue, what are the

factors for denial of marital bliss to men and woman...as we see

many of them are living single these days...i wld like to know the

contributing factors so that we can work out some remedial measures

for this...which in my opinion will take care of repairability of

destiny...(pointer to praffulla)

 

i can quote two factors from my observations

 

1. the placement of 7th lord in 12th house

2. the aspect of saturn on venus

3. sometimes the 7th becomes bhadhaka stana

4. malefics present in bhadaka stana

 

though i have noticed only small no of charts, but all the charts

show this...

 

sriganeshh

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Hanesh,

>

> If u r referring to my redifined dushhana, malefics on the 25/2

post, and now mariage also u are expecting a such a view if any?

>

> well on marriage most of the compatility rules are set for a

dharmic society and a Dharmapatni in absence of Dharma it is more a

contract as said. the 8th house comes in.

> where Dharma counts then many thigns can be balanced as per

destiny.

> today by work atmosphere we have man, women work long hrs share

more of their wake state with them than their married partners and

quite often we have seen them leading to marriages, or affairs.

>

> BUT now u have new trend parallel marriages both spouses who

are married may still have a relationship both PHYSICAL,

EMOTIONAL, SPIRITUAL With their collegues, sub-ordinates and the

couples adjusting to such reality some break up not adjusting to

it. I have counselled many of them so trust me, that too for so

called conservative Chennai where I Live apart for other cities an

dparts of the world.

>

> THIS IS FROM MANY CASES WE SEE now a days esp Medical field,

Banks used to be so for 2-3 decades ago, IT sector., service sector

and ITES SECTOR are in this s tream.

>

> I may hear a lot of protests behing this, but THIS IS A FACT of

life today. only one I can see for support here is Prafulla being

in such a sector.

> I only mean he would have seen such cases not such a case

himself. and anyone who have seen may support this fact I don't

approve of this but we r mere witness to it. The family as a

instutuon is almost on the deciline if not decay.

> When there is happiness in the family there is happiness inthe

society a happy society make a happy village, town, city nation

world Plato said but the reverse is happening now.

>

> I quotd plate as many like western implants, but many of our

Rishis, thinkers have said this too,

>

>

> sriganeshh <sriganeshh

wrote: Dear

Prashantji,

>

> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage still

> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking why

the

> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

thread

> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

comments

>

> sriganeshh

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Prafulla

> >

> > I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> > if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will get

a

> right chart and even marry.

> >

> > if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

rectify

> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

fate

> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

seen

> these happen.

> >

> > AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> endangered species.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote: Dear

Bhaskar

> ji

> >

> > Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

have

> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test

> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

someone,

> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> >

> > My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

These

> are my observations!!

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

insignificance.

> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity of life around you.

> >

> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

complicate

> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

never,

> to forget.

> >

> > >

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Prafullaji,

> > >

> > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > > comment,

> > > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

life

> will

> > > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

Aap

> doosri

> > > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

astrologers

> > > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married

to a

> > > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

found

> > > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

> picture

> > > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

qualities

> > > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> question.

> > > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> would have

> > > been too small, the girl would have been totally

authoratarian.

> > >

> > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

property,

> > > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as

the

> > > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as

> > > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> > > of the query in question.

> > >

> > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> without any

> > > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause

> > > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

nutshell is

> > > different than what looks apparently.

> > >

> > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

> wall ? How

> > > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because

of

> destiny

> > > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> > >

> > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> > >

> > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> discuss

> > > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >>

> > >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made

a

> very

> > > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance

of

> > > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we

are

> here

> > > on the forum.

> > >>

> > >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

measure !!

> Please

> > > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> compatibility

> > > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

additional

> > > question - has it worked?

> > >>

> > >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

of

> personal

> > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

> etc). Do

> > > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

tests?

> > >>

> > >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have

> > > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!!

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance. To

> > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> disparity

> > > of life around you.

> > >>

> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

all, to

> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

never,

> never,

> > > to forget.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>

> > >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> > >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> > >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to

the

> > > issue.

> > >>>

> > >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

compatibility

> tests

> > >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers

> > > capability

> > >>> of doing a good job ?

> > >>>

> > >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

compatibility

> > > tests

> > >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> > > incapability

> > >>> to do a good job ?

> > >>>

> > >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above

in

> > >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> > >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

the

> right

> > >>> subject for us to persue.

> > >>>

> > >>> Now,

> > >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable

and

> the

> > >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

> will not

> > >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even

> > >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

> even if

> > >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

mood

> and

> > > make

> > >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> > >>>

> > >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by

> > >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> > >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

> > >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> > >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my

Jup

> > >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> quarter

> > >>> whisky daily ?

> > >>>

> > >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I

sit

> at

> > > home

> > >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> dasha and

> > >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making

hay

> while

> > >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> > >>>

> > >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

person

> to

> > > give

> > >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> > >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> > >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

watching a

> chart

> > >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> deliverance

> > >>> of actions on part of the native.

> > >>>

> > >>> regards,

> > >>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as

to

> why did

> > >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

disaster

> or

> > > could

> > >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> through

> > >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> eagerly

> > >>> listening.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>

> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance. To

> > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> > > disparity

> > >>> of life around you.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

> > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

all,

> to

> > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

never,

> > > never,

> > >>> to forget.

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

advisors

> > >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> understand the

> > >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those

who

> have

> > > not

> > >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

have

> not

> > >>> been

> > >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another

way

> to

> > > save

> > >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

only,so

> when can

> > >>> be

> > >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

Just

> Guna,

> > >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

help in

> > >>> solitary,

> > >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

whether

> the boy

> > >>> (If

> > >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

life

> after

> > >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> sustaining

> > > the

> > >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

> other

> > >>> ones ,

> > >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

, "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> > > <jyotish@>

> > >>>>>> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> > > professional

> > >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> > >>> compatibility

> > >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm

it;

> for

> > >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> house, 7th

> > >>>>> from

> > >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

venus

> for

> > > man

> > >>>>> and

> > >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> wicked

> > >>> league

> > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> woman, in

> > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

> great

> > >>> thing,

> > >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> > >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

is

> waiting

> > >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting

for

> her

> > > man,

> > >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

even

> if the

> > >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> > >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

praise

> for her

> > >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> considered a

> > >>>>> real

> > >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he

may

> not

> > > have

> > >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

cannot.

> > >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> latter

> > >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> bataiye.

> > >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

Gang

> > >>>>> <jyotish@>

> > >>>>>>>> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives,

be

> happy

> > >>>>> with

> > >>>>>>>> wife.

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in

a

> wicked

> > >>>>> league

> > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

young

> woman,

> > > in

> > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> > >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> > >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> , "jaibabedi2004"

> > >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will

find

> > >>>>>> difference

> > >>>>>>>>>> of

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> house.

> > >>>>> Computer

> > >>>>>>>>>>> will

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

different

> > > time,

> > >>>>>> Your

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

> watch

> > > will

> > >>>>>> show

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

every

> > > birth

> > >>>>> the

> > >>>>>>>>>>> time

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> required

> > > while

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time

is

> going

> > > to

> > >>>>>>>>>> create

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

predictions

> given

> > > to

> > >>>>>>>>>> client

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

science

> > > itself.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

birth

> time

> > > and

> > >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

whichever

> Bhava

> > >>>>>> question

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

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Dear Prafulla,

 

thanks...i also thought the same way till i encountered practical

situations which is completely reverse...i have quoted these factors

after careful reading of divorce and single charts...(here 95% of

the charts are female charts and in the case of singles, inspite of

getting good matches they refuse to marry because of the reasons

best known to them...),,,this is something puzzling me..

my main intention is to find out the planetary combination which

contributes to this state of affairs in the lives, what is the main

cause behind such things...(ref: purva janma nirnaya phala) and

whether it can be subject to remedial measures or not...if not

why...? this is purely academic from an angle if we tackle the hard

part then we may be able to arrive at right remedial measures to

overcome problems in the marriage relations...i hope i made you

understand...):

 

There was one good article some time back in AM on saturn aspecting

venus may not be so good as far as marriage is concerned and it in

fact takes the person away from pleasures...a sort of denial.

 

sriganeshh

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sriganeshh,

>

> your astro pointers for difficult marriages (or even denials)-

>

> UL, D9 and venus (its strength, 7th from venus) for male nativity;

and mars for female nativity has bigger role than even 7th lord. 7th

lord in 6th (as mentioned on thread) is also complex - (in kala

purusha 7th lord venus is debilitated in 6th house). 8th lord in 7th

does harm the marital ties.

>

> 7th lord in 12th will not be complex - as in kala purusha 7th lord

venus is exalted in 12th (if 7th lord mercury and is in 12th house -

will give troubles in marriage)

>

> shani / venus belongs to same group, and are best friends. Unless

shani is FM - will not harm the marriage. On the contrary, it will

give god bondage in relations.

>

> 7th house is badhaka - so for all those lagnas, the marriage must

always be a puzzle !!! Just see, the other factors for such problems

too.

>

> Denial of marriage and relationships are two different issues (as

you mentioned). and combination for celibacy needs to be seen for

such natives.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life

be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

>

>

> >

> > sriganeshh

> > Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:01:40 -0000

> >

> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8

p2

> >

> > Prashantji....my name is ganesh...(lol)

> >

> > now thanks for your post...this is exactly what i referred as i

have

> > seen many cases and it is my personal view that marriage analysis

> > taking 7th house alone these days may not give you fair

> > predictions...

> > these days relations never fit in the five types of marriage like

> > gandharva, sakun, mind etc., (if u know the five types, please

list

> > it for me)...it is more of a convenience happening...in that

case,

> > just taking 7th house may be misleading for me...rather i would

like

> > to see wholistic picture of the chart and then decide what is

what..?

> >

> > now coming to another interesting aspect on this issue, what are

the

> > factors for denial of marital bliss to men and woman...as we see

> > many of them are living single these days...i wld like to know

the

> > contributing factors so that we can work out some remedial

measures

> > for this...which in my opinion will take care of repairability of

> > destiny...(pointer to praffulla)

> >

> > i can quote two factors from my observations

> >

> > 1. the placement of 7th lord in 12th house

> > 2. the aspect of saturn on venus

> > 3. sometimes the 7th becomes bhadhaka stana

> > 4. malefics present in bhadaka stana

> >

> > though i have noticed only small no of charts, but all the charts

> > show this...

> >

> > sriganeshh

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Hanesh,

> >>

> >> If u r referring to my redifined dushhana, malefics on the

25/2

> > post, and now mariage also u are expecting a such a view if any?

> >>

> >> well on marriage most of the compatility rules are set for a

> > dharmic society and a Dharmapatni in absence of Dharma it is

more a

> > contract as said. the 8th house comes in.

> >> where Dharma counts then many thigns can be balanced as per

> > destiny.

> >> today by work atmosphere we have man, women work long hrs

share

> > more of their wake state with them than their married partners

and

> > quite often we have seen them leading to marriages, or affairs.

> >>

> >> BUT now u have new trend parallel marriages both spouses who

> > are married may still have a relationship both PHYSICAL,

> > EMOTIONAL, SPIRITUAL With their collegues, sub-ordinates and the

> > couples adjusting to such reality some break up not adjusting to

> > it. I have counselled many of them so trust me, that too for so

> > called conservative Chennai where I Live apart for other cities

an

> > dparts of the world.

> >>

> >> THIS IS FROM MANY CASES WE SEE now a days esp Medical field,

> > Banks used to be so for 2-3 decades ago, IT sector., service

sector

> > and ITES SECTOR are in this s tream.

> >>

> >> I may hear a lot of protests behing this, but THIS IS A FACT

of

> > life today. only one I can see for support here is Prafulla

being

> > in such a sector.

> >> I only mean he would have seen such cases not such a case

> > himself. and anyone who have seen may support this fact I don't

> > approve of this but we r mere witness to it. The family as a

> > instutuon is almost on the deciline if not decay.

> >> When there is happiness in the family there is happiness inthe

> > society a happy society make a happy village, town, city nation

> > world Plato said but the reverse is happening now.

> >>

> >> I quotd plate as many like western implants, but many of our

> > Rishis, thinkers have said this too,

> >>

> >>

> >> sriganeshh <sriganeshh@>

> > wrote: Dear

> > Prashantji,

> >>

> >> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

still

> >> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

why

> > the

> >> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> > thread

> >> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> > comments

> >>

> >> sriganeshh

> >>

> >> , Prashant Kumar G B

> >> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Prafulla

> >> >

> >> > I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> >> > if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

get

> > a

> >> right chart and even marry.

> >> >

> >> > if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

> > rectify

> >> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

a

> >> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

> > fate

> >> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

> > seen

> >> these happen.

> >> >

> >> > AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> >> endangered species.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> >> wrote: Dear

> > Bhaskar

> >> ji

> >> >

> >> > Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

> > have

> >> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

test

> >> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

> > someone,

> >> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> >> >

> >> > My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

> > These

> >> are my observations!!

> >> >

> >> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> >

> >> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > insignificance.

> >> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> >> disparity of life around you.

> >> >

> >> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > complicate

> >> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

to

> >> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > never,

> >> to forget.

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> >> > >

> >> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Dear Prafullaji,

> >> > >

> >> > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> >> > > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> >> > > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> >> > > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> >> > > comment,

> >> > > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> >> > > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko.

Your

> > life

> >> will

> >> > > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

> > Aap

> >> doosri

> >> > > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

> > astrologers

> >> > > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

married

> > to a

> >> > > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> >> > > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would

have

> > found

> >> > > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

whole

> >> picture

> >> > > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> >> > > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> >> > > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

> > qualities

> >> > > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> >> > > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> >> > > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> >> question.

> >> > > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers

observations

> >> would have

> >> > > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> > authoratarian.

> >> > >

> >> > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> >> > > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> > property,

> >> > > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

as

> > the

> >> > > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is

treated as

> >> > > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> >> > > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> >> > > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact

results

> >> > > of the query in question.

> >> > >

> >> > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> >> without any

> >> > > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

cause

> >> > > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

> > nutshell is

> >> > > different than what looks apparently.

> >> > >

> >> > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

the

> >> wall ? How

> >> > > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

because

> > of

> >> destiny

> >> > > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> >> > >

> >> > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> >> > >

> >> > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata

hai

> >> discuss

> >> > > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> >> > >

> >> > > regards,

> >> > > Bhaskar.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > , Prafulla Gang

> >> <jyotish@>

> >> > > wrote:

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

made

> > a

> >> very

> >> > > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

relevance

> > of

> >> > > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

we

> > are

> >> here

> >> > > on the forum.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

> > measure !!

> >> Please

> >> > > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> >> compatibility

> >> > > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> > additional

> >> > > question - has it worked?

> >> > >>

> >> > >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

> > of

> >> personal

> >> > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

issues

> >> etc). Do

> >> > > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

> > tests?

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

have

> >> > > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

proven!!!

> >> > >>

> >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> > >>

> >> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >> insignificance. To

> >> > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> > vulgar

> >> disparity

> >> > > of life around you.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> >> complicate

> >> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> > all, to

> >> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > never,

> >> never,

> >> > > to forget.

> >> > >>

> >> > >>

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> >> > >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> >> > >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

to

> > the

> >> > > issue.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

> > compatibility

> >> tests

> >> > >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

astrologers

> >> > > capability

> >> > >>> of doing a good job ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> > compatibility

> >> > > tests

> >> > >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to

astrologers

> >> > > incapability

> >> > >>> to do a good job ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

above

> > in

> >> > >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in

remedies),or

> >> > >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

> > the

> >> right

> >> > >>> subject for us to persue.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> Now,

> >> > >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

irreperable

> > and

> >> the

> >> > >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli,

or

> >> will not

> >> > >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

even

> >> > >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer,

or

> >> even if

> >> > >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

> > mood

> >> and

> >> > > make

> >> > >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is

made by

> >> > >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny,

I

> >> > >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

time

> >> > >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> >> > >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

my

> > Jup

> >> > >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> >> quarter

> >> > >>> whisky daily ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if

I

> > sit

> >> at

> >> > > home

> >> > >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for

that

> >> dasha and

> >> > >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

making

> > hay

> >> while

> >> > >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

> > person

> >> to

> >> > > give

> >> > >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> >> > >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> >> > >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

> > watching a

> >> chart

> >> > >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> >> deliverance

> >> > >>> of actions on part of the native.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> regards,

> >> > >>> Bhaskar.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> >> <jyotish@>

> >> > >>> wrote:

> >> > >>>>

> >> > >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

as

> > to

> >> why did

> >> > >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

> > disaster

> >> or

> >> > > could

> >> > >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having

marriage

> >> through

> >> > >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> >> eagerly

> >> > >>> listening.

> >> > >>>>

> >> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> > >>>>

> >> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >> insignificance. To

> >> > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> > vulgar

> >> > > disparity

> >> > >>> of life around you.

> >> > >>>>

> >> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> >> complicate

> >> > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power.

Above

> > all,

> >> to

> >> > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > never,

> >> > > never,

> >> > >>> to forget.

> >> > >>>>

> >> > >>>>

> >> > >>>>>

> >> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> >> > >>>>>

> >> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> > >>>>>

> >> > >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> > advisors

> >> > >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> >> understand the

> >> > >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

those

> > who

> >> have

> >> > > not

> >> > >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their

charts

> > have

> >> not

> >> > >>> been

> >> > >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

another

> > way

> >> to

> >> > > save

> >> > >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

> > only,so

> >> when can

> >> > >>> be

> >> > >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all

cases.

> > Just

> >> Guna,

> >> > >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

> > help in

> >> > >>> solitary,

> >> > >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

> > whether

> >> the boy

> >> > >>> (If

> >> > >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming

in

> > life

> >> after

> >> > >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> >> sustaining

> >> > > the

> >> > >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

from

> >> other

> >> > >>> ones ,

> >> > >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> >> > >>>>>

> >> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> > >>>>>

> >> > >>>>>

> >> > >>>>> --- In

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >> > >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >> > >>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> >> > >>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>> regards,

> >> > >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> > >>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>> , Prafulla

Gang

> >> > > <jyotish@>

> >> > >>>>>> wrote:

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge

for

> >> > > professional

> >> > >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The

chart

> >> > >>> compatibility

> >> > >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

harm

> > it;

> >> for

> >> > >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house,

2nd

> >> house, 7th

> >> > >>>>> from

> >> > >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

> > venus

> >> for

> >> > > man

> >> > >>>>> and

> >> > >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in

a

> >> wicked

> >> > >>> league

> >> > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

young

> >> woman, in

> >> > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife

is a

> >> great

> >> > >>> thing,

> >> > >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> >> > >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

> > is

> >> waiting

> >> > >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

waiting

> > for

> >> her

> >> > > man,

> >> > >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

> > even

> >> if the

> >> > >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> >> > >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

> > praise

> >> for her

> >> > >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> >> considered a

> >> > >>>>> real

> >> > >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

he

> > may

> >> not

> >> > > have

> >> > >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

> > cannot.

> >> > >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence

ke

> >> latter

> >> > >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> >> bataiye.

> >> > >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>> regards,

> >> > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

> > Gang

> >> > >>>>> <jyotish@>

> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >> > >>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

wives,

> > be

> >> happy

> >> > >>>>> with

> >> > >>>>>>>> wife.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> > >>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

in

> > a

> >> wicked

> >> > >>>>> league

> >> > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> > young

> >> woman,

> >> > > in

> >> > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> >> , "jaibabedi2004"

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> >> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

will

> > find

> >> > >>>>>> difference

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> of

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your

own

> >> house.

> >> > >>>>> Computer

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> will

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> > different

> >> > > time,

> >> > >>>>>> Your

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

wrist

> >> watch

> >> > > will

> >> > >>>>>> show

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that

for

> > every

> >> > > birth

> >> > >>>>> the

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> time

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> >> required

> >> > > while

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

time

> > is

> >> going

> >> > > to

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> create

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

> > predictions

> >> given

> >> > > to

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> client

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> > science

> >> > > itself.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

> > birth

> >> time

> >> > > and

> >> > >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

> > whichever

> >> Bhava

> >> > >>>>>> question

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not

> > Charged

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or

any

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged.

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>>

> >> > >>>>>>

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> >> >

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Saturn may tend to indicate matured wife - if not older. So is saturn in 7th or aspecting 7th.

 

Saturn in 7th also ensures confirmity with traditions.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

 

 

>

> gbp_kumar

> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:37:31 -0700 (PDT)

>

> ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8 p2, 18/8

>

> Ganesh,

> Sani Venus is not a problem or one causing denial of mariage but gives

> one a better placed spouse

> this can be academic, assets, status, age, wrok etc.

>

> in Ramayana u find Rama having it and the fact that Sita was older to

> rama is also well know.

> in Mahabharatha

> so too Krishna too had this and of the 8 wives Radha i solder than him

> similarly Jambavans daughter who is one of the wives is said to have

> lived 3 Yugas and remained young, beautiful wish she is living in the

> 4th Yuga as well ...! I can quote form clasical ref only.

>

> and know many who r married like this

>

> one example i can give is few astrolgoers who did not have a PC used to

> send their cases for printing their clinet horoscopes and those I rarely

> see or comment

> one case I did in 98 Feb and asked the father is ur son married he said

> no and I addd he willg et married to a older women he was furuoious and

> the expression on his face `wha asked you and or ah forget it..'

> but I was in Blr till Nov that yr with my guru and this person waited

> for me and came with a chart saying his son is interested in a women

> 4.5 yrs older to him.

> if this is the one ok as I had already said so, they r married. can

> gvie such data

>

> I know many who have affairs with older women than their wives too.

>

>

> sriganeshh <sriganeshh > wrote:

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> thanks...i also thought the same way till i encountered practical

> situations which is completely reverse...i have quoted these factors

> after careful reading of divorce and single charts...(here 95% of

> the charts are female charts and in the case of singles, inspite of

> getting good matches they refuse to marry because of the reasons

> best known to them...),,,this is something puzzling me..

> my main intention is to find out the planetary combination which

> contributes to this state of affairs in the lives, what is the main

> cause behind such things...(ref: purva janma nirnaya phala) and

> whether it can be subject to remedial measures or not...if not

> why...? this is purely academic from an angle if we tackle the hard

> part then we may be able to arrive at right remedial measures to

> overcome problems in the marriage relations...i hope i made you

> understand...):

>

> There was one good article some time back in AM on saturn aspecting

> venus may not be so good as far as marriage is concerned and it in

> fact takes the person away from pleasures...a sort of denial.

>

> sriganeshh

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sriganeshh,

> >

> > your astro pointers for difficult marriages (or even denials)-

> >

> > UL, D9 and venus (its strength, 7th from venus) for male nativity;

> and mars for female nativity has bigger role than even 7th lord. 7th

> lord in 6th (as mentioned on thread) is also complex - (in kala

> purusha 7th lord venus is debilitated in 6th house). 8th lord in 7th

> does harm the marital ties.

> >

> > 7th lord in 12th will not be complex - as in kala purusha 7th lord

> venus is exalted in 12th (if 7th lord mercury and is in 12th house -

> will give troubles in marriage)

> >

> > shani / venus belongs to same group, and are best friends. Unless

> shani is FM - will not harm the marriage. On the contrary, it will

> give god bondage in relations.

> >

> > 7th house is badhaka - so for all those lagnas, the marriage must

> always be a puzzle !!! Just see, the other factors for such problems

> too.

> >

> > Denial of marriage and relationships are two different issues (as

> you mentioned). and combination for celibacy needs to be seen for

> such natives.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life

> be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > sriganeshh

> > > Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:01:40 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8

> p2

> > >

> > > Prashantji....my name is ganesh...(lol)

> > >

> > > now thanks for your post...this is exactly what i referred as i

> have

> > > seen many cases and it is my personal view that marriage analysis

> > > taking 7th house alone these days may not give you fair

> > > predictions...

> > > these days relations never fit in the five types of marriage like

> > > gandharva, sakun, mind etc., (if u know the five types, please

> list

> > > it for me)...it is more of a convenience happening...in that

> case,

> > > just taking 7th house may be misleading for me...rather i would

> like

> > > to see wholistic picture of the chart and then decide what is

> what..?

> > >

> > > now coming to another interesting aspect on this issue, what are

> the

> > > factors for denial of marital bliss to men and woman...as we see

> > > many of them are living single these days...i wld like to know

> the

> > > contributing factors so that we can work out some remedial

> measures

> > > for this...which in my opinion will take care of repairability of

> > > destiny...(pointer to praffulla)

> > >

> > > i can quote two factors from my observations

> > >

> > > 1. the placement of 7th lord in 12th house

> > > 2. the aspect of saturn on venus

> > > 3. sometimes the 7th becomes bhadhaka stana

> > > 4. malefics present in bhadaka stana

> > >

> > > though i have noticed only small no of charts, but all the charts

> > > show this...

> > >

> > > sriganeshh

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Hanesh,

> > >>

> > >> If u r referring to my redifined dushhana, malefics on the

> 25/2

> > > post, and now mariage also u are expecting a such a view if any?

> > >>

> > >> well on marriage most of the compatility rules are set for a

> > > dharmic society and a Dharmapatni in absence of Dharma it is

> more a

> > > contract as said. the 8th house comes in.

> > >> where Dharma counts then many thigns can be balanced as per

> > > destiny.

> > >> today by work atmosphere we have man, women work long hrs

> share

> > > more of their wake state with them than their married partners

> and

> > > quite often we have seen them leading to marriages, or affairs.

> > >>

> > >> BUT now u have new trend parallel marriages both spouses who

> > > are married may still have a relationship both PHYSICAL,

> > > EMOTIONAL, SPIRITUAL With their collegues, sub-ordinates and the

> > > couples adjusting to such reality some break up not adjusting to

> > > it. I have counselled many of them so trust me, that too for so

> > > called conservative Chennai where I Live apart for other cities

> an

> > > dparts of the world.

> > >>

> > >> THIS IS FROM MANY CASES WE SEE now a days esp Medical field,

> > > Banks used to be so for 2-3 decades ago, IT sector., service

> sector

> > > and ITES SECTOR are in this s tream.

> > >>

> > >> I may hear a lot of protests behing this, but THIS IS A FACT

> of

> > > life today. only one I can see for support here is Prafulla

> being

> > > in such a sector.

> > >> I only mean he would have seen such cases not such a case

> > > himself. and anyone who have seen may support this fact I don't

> > > approve of this but we r mere witness to it. The family as a

> > > instutuon is almost on the deciline if not decay.

> > >> When there is happiness in the family there is happiness inthe

> > > society a happy society make a happy village, town, city nation

> > > world Plato said but the reverse is happening now.

> > >>

> > >> I quotd plate as many like western implants, but many of our

> > > Rishis, thinkers have said this too,

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> sriganeshh <sriganeshh@>

> > > wrote: Dear

> > > Prashantji,

> > >>

> > >> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

> still

> > >> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

> why

> > > the

> > >> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> > > thread

> > >> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> > > comments

> > >>

> > >> sriganeshh

> > >>

> > >> , Prashant Kumar G B

> > >> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > Prafulla

> > >> >

> > >> > I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> > >> > if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

> get

> > > a

> > >> right chart and even marry.

> > >> >

> > >> > if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

> > > rectify

> > >> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

> a

> > >> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

> > > fate

> > >> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

> > > seen

> > >> these happen.

> > >> >

> > >> > AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> > >> endangered species.

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > >> wrote: Dear

> > > Bhaskar

> > >> ji

> > >> >

> > >> > Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

> > > have

> > >> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

> test

> > >> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

> > > someone,

> > >> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> > >> >

> > >> > My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

> > > These

> > >> are my observations!!

> > >> >

> > >> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> >

> > >> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > > insignificance.

> > >> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > >> disparity of life around you.

> > >> >

> > >> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > > complicate

> > >> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

> to

> > >> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > > never,

> > >> to forget.

> > >> >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Dear Prafullaji,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > >> > > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > >> > > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > >> > > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > >> > > comment,

> > >> > > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > >> > > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko.

> Your

> > > life

> > >> will

> > >> > > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

> > > Aap

> > >> doosri

> > >> > > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

> > > astrologers

> > >> > > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

> married

> > > to a

> > >> > > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > >> > > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would

> have

> > > found

> > >> > > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

> whole

> > >> picture

> > >> > > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > >> > > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > >> > > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

> > > qualities

> > >> > > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > >> > > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > >> > > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> > >> question.

> > >> > > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers

> observations

> > >> would have

> > >> > > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> > > authoratarian.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > >> > > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> > > property,

> > >> > > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

> as

> > > the

> > >> > > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is

> treated as

> > >> > > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > >> > > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > >> > > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact

> results

> > >> > > of the query in question.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> > >> without any

> > >> > > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

> cause

> > >> > > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

> > > nutshell is

> > >> > > different than what looks apparently.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

> the

> > >> wall ? How

> > >> > > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

> because

> > > of

> > >> destiny

> > >> > > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata

> hai

> > >> discuss

> > >> > > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > regards,

> > >> > > Bhaskar.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > , Prafulla Gang

> > >> <jyotish@>

> > >> > > wrote:

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

> made

> > > a

> > >> very

> > >> > > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

> relevance

> > > of

> > >> > > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

> we

> > > are

> > >> here

> > >> > > on the forum.

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

> > > measure !!

> > >> Please

> > >> > > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> > >> compatibility

> > >> > > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> > > additional

> > >> > > question - has it worked?

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

> > > of

> > >> personal

> > >> > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

> issues

> > >> etc). Do

> > >> > > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

> > > tests?

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

> have

> > >> > > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

> proven!!!

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > >> insignificance. To

> > >> > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> > > vulgar

> > >> disparity

> > >> > > of life around you.

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > >> complicate

> > >> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> > > all, to

> > >> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > > never,

> > >> never,

> > >> > > to forget.

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> > >> > >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> > >> > >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

> to

> > > the

> > >> > > issue.

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

> > > compatibility

> > >> tests

> > >> > >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

> astrologers

> > >> > > capability

> > >> > >>> of doing a good job ?

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> > > compatibility

> > >> > > tests

> > >> > >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to

> astrologers

> > >> > > incapability

> > >> > >>> to do a good job ?

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

> above

> > > in

> > >> > >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in

> remedies),or

> > >> > >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

> > > the

> > >> right

> > >> > >>> subject for us to persue.

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> Now,

> > >> > >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

> irreperable

> > > and

> > >> the

> > >> > >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli,

> or

> > >> will not

> > >> > >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

> even

> > >> > >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer,

> or

> > >> even if

> > >> > >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

> > > mood

> > >> and

> > >> > > make

> > >> > >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is

> made by

> > >> > >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny,

> I

> > >> > >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

> time

> > >> > >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> > >> > >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

> my

> > > Jup

> > >> > >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> > >> quarter

> > >> > >>> whisky daily ?

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if

> I

> > > sit

> > >> at

> > >> > > home

> > >> > >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for

> that

> > >> dasha and

> > >> > >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

> making

> > > hay

> > >> while

> > >> > >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

> > > person

> > >> to

> > >> > > give

> > >> > >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> > >> > >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> > >> > >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

> > > watching a

> > >> chart

> > >> > >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> > >> deliverance

> > >> > >>> of actions on part of the native.

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> regards,

> > >> > >>> Bhaskar.

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>>

> > >> > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> > >> <jyotish@>

> > >> > >>> wrote:

> > >> > >>>>

> > >> > >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

> as

> > > to

> > >> why did

> > >> > >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

> > > disaster

> > >> or

> > >> > > could

> > >> > >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having

> marriage

> > >> through

> > >> > >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> > >> eagerly

> > >> > >>> listening.

> > >> > >>>>

> > >> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> > >>>>

> > >> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > >> insignificance. To

> > >> > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> > > vulgar

> > >> > > disparity

> > >> > >>> of life around you.

> > >> > >>>>

> > >> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > >> complicate

> > >> > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power.

> Above

> > > all,

> > >> to

> > >> > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > > never,

> > >> > > never,

> > >> > >>> to forget.

> > >> > >>>>

> > >> > >>>>

> > >> > >>>>>

> > >> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> > >> > >>>>>

> > >> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> > >>>>>

> > >> > >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> > > advisors

> > >> > >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> > >> understand the

> > >> > >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

> those

> > > who

> > >> have

> > >> > > not

> > >> > >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their

> charts

> > > have

> > >> not

> > >> > >>> been

> > >> > >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

> another

> > > way

> > >> to

> > >> > > save

> > >> > >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

> > > only,so

> > >> when can

> > >> > >>> be

> > >> > >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all

> cases.

> > > Just

> > >> Guna,

> > >> > >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

> > > help in

> > >> > >>> solitary,

> > >> > >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

> > > whether

> > >> the boy

> > >> > >>> (If

> > >> > >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming

> in

> > > life

> > >> after

> > >> > >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> > >> sustaining

> > >> > > the

> > >> > >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

> from

> > >> other

> > >> > >>> ones ,

> > >> > >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> > >> > >>>>>

> > >> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> > >>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>

> > >> > >>>>> --- In

> > > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >> > >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >> > >>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> > >> > >>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>> regards,

> > >> > >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> > >>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

> > >> > > <jyotish@>

> > >> > >>>>>> wrote:

> > >> > >>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge

> for

> > >> > > professional

> > >> > >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The

> chart

> > >> > >>> compatibility

> > >> > >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> > >> > >>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

> harm

> > > it;

> > >> for

> > >> > >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house,

> 2nd

> > >> house, 7th

> > >> > >>>>> from

> > >> > >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

> > > venus

> > >> for

> > >> > > man

> > >> > >>>>> and

> > >> > >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> > >> > >>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> > >>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in

> a

> > >> wicked

> > >> > >>> league

> > >> > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> young

> > >> woman, in

> > >> > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >> > >>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife

> is a

> > >> great

> > >> > >>> thing,

> > >> > >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

> > > is

> > >> waiting

> > >> > >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

> waiting

> > > for

> > >> her

> > >> > > man,

> > >> > >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

> > > even

> > >> if the

> > >> > >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> > >> > >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

> > > praise

> > >> for her

> > >> > >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> > >> considered a

> > >> > >>>>> real

> > >> > >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

> he

> > > may

> > >> not

> > >> > > have

> > >> > >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

> > > cannot.

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence

> ke

> > >> latter

> > >> > >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> > >> bataiye.

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> regards,

> > >> > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

> > > Gang

> > >> > >>>>> <jyotish@>

> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

> wives,

> > > be

> > >> happy

> > >> > >>>>> with

> > >> > >>>>>>>> wife.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

> in

> > > a

> > >> wicked

> > >> > >>>>> league

> > >> > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> > > young

> > >> woman,

> > >> > > in

> > >> > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > >> , "jaibabedi2004"

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > >> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

> will

> > > find

> > >> > >>>>>> difference

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> of

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your

> own

> > >> house.

> > >> > >>>>> Computer

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> will

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> > > different

> > >> > > time,

> > >> > >>>>>> Your

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

> wrist

> > >> watch

> > >> > > will

> > >> > >>>>>> show

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that

> for

> > > every

> > >> > > birth

> > >> > >>>>> the

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> time

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> > >> required

> > >> > > while

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

> time

> > > is

> > >> going

> > >> > > to

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> create

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

> > > predictions

> > >> given

> > >> > > to

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> client

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> > > science

> > >> > > itself.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

> > > birth

> > >> time

> > >> > > and

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

> > > whichever

> > >> Bhava

> > >> > >>>>>> question

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Prafulla,

 

thanks ..can you give the message nos for my studies...

 

sriganeshh

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sriganeshh,

>

> I am not saying from theory either. You might have observed those

results, but just see - if those were the sole factors or there are

other afflictions as well (e.g. saturn / venus are FM; 7th lord is

FM; close aspect of rahu / ketu; close affliction by other FM) or

the planets causing them are afflicted in D 9 as well; UL is

afflicted etc.

>

> I have venus / saturn in 8th; I posted a chart of lady (happily

married at young age of 18) with saturn / venus; My wife (kumbha

lagna - venus / saturn in 4th); I postd a chart - male - 7th Lord

mercury in 12th (marriage took place, after 5 years of marriage had

5 years of seperation; and then again started living together).

>

> I am not stating that - those combinations will not cause

difficulties in marriage; but will not necessarily cause celibacy.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't life

be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

>

>

> >

> > sriganeshh

> > Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:34:36 -0000

> >

> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8

p2

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > thanks...i also thought the same way till i encountered practical

> > situations which is completely reverse...i have quoted these

factors

> > after careful reading of divorce and single charts...(here 95% of

> > the charts are female charts and in the case of singles, inspite

of

> > getting good matches they refuse to marry because of the reasons

> > best known to them...),,,this is something puzzling me..

> > my main intention is to find out the planetary combination which

> > contributes to this state of affairs in the lives, what is the

main

> > cause behind such things...(ref: purva janma nirnaya phala) and

> > whether it can be subject to remedial measures or not...if not

> > why...? this is purely academic from an angle if we tackle the

hard

> > part then we may be able to arrive at right remedial measures to

> > overcome problems in the marriage relations...i hope i made you

> > understand...):

> >

> > There was one good article some time back in AM on saturn

aspecting

> > venus may not be so good as far as marriage is concerned and it

in

> > fact takes the person away from pleasures...a sort of denial.

> >

> > sriganeshh

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Sriganeshh,

> >>

> >> your astro pointers for difficult marriages (or even denials)-

> >>

> >> UL, D9 and venus (its strength, 7th from venus) for male

nativity;

> > and mars for female nativity has bigger role than even 7th lord.

7th

> > lord in 6th (as mentioned on thread) is also complex - (in kala

> > purusha 7th lord venus is debilitated in 6th house). 8th lord in

7th

> > does harm the marital ties.

> >>

> >> 7th lord in 12th will not be complex - as in kala purusha 7th

lord

> > venus is exalted in 12th (if 7th lord mercury and is in 12th

house -

> > will give troubles in marriage)

> >>

> >> shani / venus belongs to same group, and are best friends.

Unless

> > shani is FM - will not harm the marriage. On the contrary, it

will

> > give god bondage in relations.

> >>

> >> 7th house is badhaka - so for all those lagnas, the marriage

must

> > always be a puzzle !!! Just see, the other factors for such

problems

> > too.

> >>

> >> Denial of marriage and relationships are two different issues

(as

> > you mentioned). and combination for celibacy needs to be seen for

> > such natives.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> If patience is a virtue and ignorance is bliss, then wouldn't

life

> > be grand if we all were dumb and could wait a little while.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> sriganeshh@

> >>> Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:01:40 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8

> > p2

> >>>

> >>> Prashantji....my name is ganesh...(lol)

> >>>

> >>> now thanks for your post...this is exactly what i referred as i

> > have

> >>> seen many cases and it is my personal view that marriage

analysis

> >>> taking 7th house alone these days may not give you fair

> >>> predictions...

> >>> these days relations never fit in the five types of marriage

like

> >>> gandharva, sakun, mind etc., (if u know the five types, please

> > list

> >>> it for me)...it is more of a convenience happening...in that

> > case,

> >>> just taking 7th house may be misleading for me...rather i would

> > like

> >>> to see wholistic picture of the chart and then decide what is

> > what..?

> >>>

> >>> now coming to another interesting aspect on this issue, what

are

> > the

> >>> factors for denial of marital bliss to men and woman...as we

see

> >>> many of them are living single these days...i wld like to know

> > the

> >>> contributing factors so that we can work out some remedial

> > measures

> >>> for this...which in my opinion will take care of repairability

of

> >>> destiny...(pointer to praffulla)

> >>>

> >>> i can quote two factors from my observations

> >>>

> >>> 1. the placement of 7th lord in 12th house

> >>> 2. the aspect of saturn on venus

> >>> 3. sometimes the 7th becomes bhadhaka stana

> >>> 4. malefics present in bhadaka stana

> >>>

> >>> though i have noticed only small no of charts, but all the

charts

> >>> show this...

> >>>

> >>> sriganeshh

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , Prashant Kumar G B

> >>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Hanesh,

> >>>>

> >>>> If u r referring to my redifined dushhana, malefics on the

> > 25/2

> >>> post, and now mariage also u are expecting a such a view if

any?

> >>>>

> >>>> well on marriage most of the compatility rules are set for a

> >>> dharmic society and a Dharmapatni in absence of Dharma it is

> > more a

> >>> contract as said. the 8th house comes in.

> >>>> where Dharma counts then many thigns can be balanced as per

> >>> destiny.

> >>>> today by work atmosphere we have man, women work long hrs

> > share

> >>> more of their wake state with them than their married partners

> > and

> >>> quite often we have seen them leading to marriages, or

affairs.

> >>>>

> >>>> BUT now u have new trend parallel marriages both spouses who

> >>> are married may still have a relationship both PHYSICAL,

> >>> EMOTIONAL, SPIRITUAL With their collegues, sub-ordinates and

the

> >>> couples adjusting to such reality some break up not adjusting

to

> >>> it. I have counselled many of them so trust me, that too for

so

> >>> called conservative Chennai where I Live apart for other

cities

> > an

> >>> dparts of the world.

> >>>>

> >>>> THIS IS FROM MANY CASES WE SEE now a days esp Medical field,

> >>> Banks used to be so for 2-3 decades ago, IT sector., service

> > sector

> >>> and ITES SECTOR are in this s tream.

> >>>>

> >>>> I may hear a lot of protests behing this, but THIS IS A FACT

> > of

> >>> life today. only one I can see for support here is Prafulla

> > being

> >>> in such a sector.

> >>>> I only mean he would have seen such cases not such a case

> >>> himself. and anyone who have seen may support this fact I

don't

> >>> approve of this but we r mere witness to it. The family as a

> >>> instutuon is almost on the deciline if not decay.

> >>>> When there is happiness in the family there is happiness

inthe

> >>> society a happy society make a happy village, town, city

nation

> >>> world Plato said but the reverse is happening now.

> >>>>

> >>>> I quotd plate as many like western implants, but many of our

> >>> Rishis, thinkers have said this too,

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> sriganeshh <sriganeshh@>

> >>> wrote: Dear

> >>> Prashantji,

> >>>>

> >>>> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

> > still

> >>>> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

> > why

> >>> the

> >>>> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> >>> thread

> >>>> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> >>> comments

> >>>>

> >>>> sriganeshh

> >>>>

> >>>> , Prashant Kumar G B

> >>>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Prafulla

> >>>> >

> >>>> > I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> >>>> > if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

> > get

> >>> a

> >>>> right chart and even marry.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

> >>> rectify

> >>>> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

> > a

> >>>> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

> >>> fate

> >>>> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

> >>> seen

> >>>> these happen.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or

an

> >>>> endangered species.

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> >>>> wrote: Dear

> >>> Bhaskar

> >>>> ji

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined

to

> >>> have

> >>>> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

> > test

> >>>> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

> >>> someone,

> >>>> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

> >>> These

> >>>> are my observations!!

> >>>> >

> >>>> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> >

> >>>> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >>> insignificance.

> >>>> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> >>>> disparity of life around you.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> >>> complicate

> >>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

all,

> > to

> >>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

never,

> >>> never,

> >>>> to forget.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Dear Prafullaji,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests

fail ?

> >>>> > > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> >>>> > > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> >>>> > > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> >>>> > > comment,

> >>>> > > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> >>>> > > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko.

> > Your

> >>> life

> >>>> will

> >>>> > > become hell, she will try to control You all Your

life.

> >>> Aap

> >>>> doosri

> >>>> > > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

> >>> astrologers

> >>>> > > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

> > married

> >>> to a

> >>>> > > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How

come ?

> >>>> > > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would

> > have

> >>> found

> >>>> > > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

> > whole

> >>>> picture

> >>>> > > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but

sublord

> >>>> > > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> >>>> > > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

> >>> qualities

> >>>> > > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> >>>> > > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> >>>> > > which point would have been missed by the astrologer

in

> >>>> question.

> >>>> > > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers

> > observations

> >>>> would have

> >>>> > > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> >>> authoratarian.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> >>>> > > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> >>> property,

> >>>> > > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

> > as

> >>> the

> >>>> > > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is

> > treated as

> >>>> > > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> >>>> > > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life,

same

> >>>> > > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact

> > results

> >>>> > > of the query in question.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such

researches

> >>>> without any

> >>>> > > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

> > cause

> >>>> > > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

> >>> nutshell is

> >>>> > > different than what looks apparently.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

> > the

> >>>> wall ? How

> >>>> > > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

> > because

> >>> of

> >>>> destiny

> >>>> > > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata

> > hai

> >>>> discuss

> >>>> > > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > regards,

> >>>> > > Bhaskar.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > , Prafulla Gang

> >>>> <jyotish@>

> >>>> > > wrote:

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

> > made

> >>> a

> >>>> very

> >>>> > > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

> > relevance

> >>> of

> >>>> > > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is

why

> > we

> >>> are

> >>>> here

> >>>> > > on the forum.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

> >>> measure !!

> >>>> Please

> >>>> > > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> >>>> compatibility

> >>>> > > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> >>> additional

> >>>> > > question - has it worked?

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in

terms

> >>> of

> >>>> personal

> >>>> > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

> > issues

> >>>> etc). Do

> >>>> > > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

> >>> tests?

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

> > have

> >>>> > > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

> > proven!!!

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >>>> insignificance. To

> >>>> > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> >>> vulgar

> >>>> disparity

> >>>> > > of life around you.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> >>>> complicate

> >>>> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power.

Above

> >>> all, to

> >>>> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> >>> never,

> >>>> never,

> >>>> > > to forget.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> >>>> > >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> >>>> > >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your

approach

> > to

> >>> the

> >>>> > > issue.

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

> >>> compatibility

> >>>> tests

> >>>> > >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

> > astrologers

> >>>> > > capability

> >>>> > >>> of doing a good job ?

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> >>> compatibility

> >>>> > > tests

> >>>> > >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to

> > astrologers

> >>>> > > incapability

> >>>> > >>> to do a good job ?

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

> > above

> >>> in

> >>>> > >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in

> > remedies),or

> >>>> > >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is

not

> >>> the

> >>>> right

> >>>> > >>> subject for us to persue.

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> Now,

> >>>> > >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

> > irreperable

> >>> and

> >>>> the

> >>>> > >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma

kundli,

> > or

> >>>> will not

> >>>> > >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

> > even

> >>>> > >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good

astrologer,

> > or

> >>>> even if

> >>>> > >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a

proper

> >>> mood

> >>>> and

> >>>> > > make

> >>>> > >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is

> > made by

> >>>> > >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it

destiny,

> > I

> >>>> > >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

> > time

> >>>> > >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce

to

> >>>> > >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli

if

> > my

> >>> Jup

> >>>> > >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking

one

> >>>> quarter

> >>>> > >>> whisky daily ?

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and

if

> > I

> >>> sit

> >>>> at

> >>>> > > home

> >>>> > >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for

> > that

> >>>> dasha and

> >>>> > >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

> > making

> >>> hay

> >>>> while

> >>>> > >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

> >>> person

> >>>> to

> >>>> > > give

> >>>> > >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> >>>> > >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> >>>> > >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

> >>> watching a

> >>>> chart

> >>>> > >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much,

in

> >>>> deliverance

> >>>> > >>> of actions on part of the native.

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> regards,

> >>>> > >>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>>

> >>>> > >>> , Prafulla

Gang

> >>>> <jyotish@>

> >>>> > >>> wrote:

> >>>> > >>>>

> >>>> > >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

> > as

> >>> to

> >>>> why did

> >>>> > >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

> >>> disaster

> >>>> or

> >>>> > > could

> >>>> > >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having

> > marriage

> >>>> through

> >>>> > >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I

am

> >>>> eagerly

> >>>> > >>> listening.

> >>>> > >>>>

> >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> > >>>>

> >>>> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >>>> insignificance. To

> >>>> > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> >>> vulgar

> >>>> > > disparity

> >>>> > >>> of life around you.

> >>>> > >>>>

> >>>> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated

or

> >>>> complicate

> >>>> > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power.

> > Above

> >>> all,

> >>>> to

> >>>> > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away.

And

> >>> never,

> >>>> > > never,

> >>>> > >>> to forget.

> >>>> > >>>>

> >>>> > >>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> >>>> > >>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> > >>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> >>> advisors

> >>>> > >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> >>>> understand the

> >>>> > >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

> > those

> >>> who

> >>>> have

> >>>> > > not

> >>>> > >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their

> > charts

> >>> have

> >>>> not

> >>>> > >>> been

> >>>> > >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

> > another

> >>> way

> >>>> to

> >>>> > > save

> >>>> > >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

> >>> only,so

> >>>> when can

> >>>> > >>> be

> >>>> > >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all

> > cases.

> >>> Just

> >>>> Guna,

> >>>> > >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

> >>> help in

> >>>> > >>> solitary,

> >>>> > >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

> >>> whether

> >>>> the boy

> >>>> > >>> (If

> >>>> > >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming

> > in

> >>> life

> >>>> after

> >>>> > >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable

of

> >>>> sustaining

> >>>> > > the

> >>>> > >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

> > from

> >>>> other

> >>>> > >>> ones ,

> >>>> > >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> >>>> > >>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> > >>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>> --- In

> >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >>>> > >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>>> > >>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> >>>> > >>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>> regards,

> >>>> > >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> > >>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>> , Prafulla

> > Gang

> >>>> > > <jyotish@>

> >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:

> >>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge

> > for

> >>>> > > professional

> >>>> > >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The

> > chart

> >>>> > >>> compatibility

> >>>> > >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

> > harm

> >>> it;

> >>>> for

> >>>> > >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house,

> > 2nd

> >>>> house, 7th

> >>>> > >>>>> from

> >>>> > >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from

UL;

> >>> venus

> >>>> for

> >>>> > > man

> >>>> > >>>>> and

> >>>> > >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

in

> > a

> >>>> wicked

> >>>> > >>> league

> >>>> > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> > young

> >>>> woman, in

> >>>> > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife

> > is a

> >>>> great

> >>>> > >>> thing,

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving

wife,who

> >>> is

> >>>> waiting

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

> > waiting

> >>> for

> >>>> her

> >>>> > > man,

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet

word,

> >>> even

> >>>> if the

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

> >>> praise

> >>>> for her

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> >>>> considered a

> >>>> > >>>>> real

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

> > he

> >>> may

> >>>> not

> >>>> > > have

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

> >>> cannot.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence

> > ke

> >>>> latter

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai

to

> >>>> bataiye.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> regards,

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> ,

Prafulla

> >>> Gang

> >>>> > >>>>> <jyotish@>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

> > wives,

> >>> be

> >>>> happy

> >>>> > >>>>> with

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> wife.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

> > in

> >>> a

> >>>> wicked

> >>>> > >>>>> league

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> >>> young

> >>>> woman,

> >>>> > > in

> >>>> > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> >>>> , "jaibabedi2004"

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> >>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his

words.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

> > will

> >>> find

> >>>> > >>>>>> difference

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your

> > own

> >>>> house.

> >>>> > >>>>> Computer

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> will

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> >>> different

> >>>> > > time,

> >>>> > >>>>>> Your

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

> > wrist

> >>>> watch

> >>>> > > will

> >>>> > >>>>>> show

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that

> > for

> >>> every

> >>>> > > birth

> >>>> > >>>>> the

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> time

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy

is

> >>>> required

> >>>> > > while

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

> > time

> >>> is

> >>>> going

> >>>> > > to

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> create

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

> >>> predictions

> >>>> given

> >>>> > > to

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> client

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> >>> science

> >>>> > > itself.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

> >>> birth

> >>>> time

> >>>> > > and

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

> >>> whichever

> >>>> Bhava

> >>>> > >>>>>> question

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not

> >>> Charged

> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone,

or

> > any

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> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

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> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

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