marriage..current perspective

August 16, 2006

Dear Sri Ganesh,

Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

orator.

He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on astrology and

planets etc.

But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

KrishnaMurthiji.

I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

am not convinced.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sriganeshh

>

> Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

article on predicting on marriage - including type of marriages. (I

think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too clear as

well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the rationale

of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

>

> Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

elaboratedly.

>

> Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine tuned

the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings for

antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study to

read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage relationships,

marriage breakups etc.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To

never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity

of life around you.

>

> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never,

to forget.

>

> >

> > sriganeshh

> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

> >

> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

> >

> > Dear Prashantji,

> >

> > just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage still

> > valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking why

the

> > failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

thread

> > of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

comments

> >

> > sriganeshh

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Prafulla

> >>

> >> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> >> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will get a

> > right chart and even marry.

> >>

> >> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will rectify

> > it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

> > copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her fate

> > to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've seen

> > these happen.

> >>

> >> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> > endangered species.

> >>

> >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote: Dear

Bhaskar

> > ji

> >>

> >> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to have

> > a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test

> > (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone,

> > with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> >>

> >> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments. These

> > are my observations!!

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

> > To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > disparity of life around you.

> >>

> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

complicate

> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

never,

> > to forget.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> >> >

> >> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> >

> >> > Dear Prafullaji,

> >> >

> >> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> >> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> >> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> >> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> >> > comment,

> >> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> >> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

life

> > will

> >> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap

> > doosri

> >> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers

> >> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to

a

> >> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> >> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

found

> >> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

> > picture

> >> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> >> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> >> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities

> >> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> >> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> >> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> > question.

> >> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> > would have

> >> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

authoratarian.

> >> >

> >> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> >> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

property,

> >> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the

> >> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as

> >> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> >> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> >> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> >> > of the query in question.

> >> >

> >> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> > without any

> >> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause

> >> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell

is

> >> > different than what looks apparently.

> >> >

> >> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

> > wall ? How

> >> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of

> > destiny

> >> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> >> >

> >> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> >> >

> >> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> > discuss

> >> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> >> >

> >> > regards,

> >> > Bhaskar.

> >> >

> >> > , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> >> > wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >> >>

> >> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a

> > very

> >> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of

> >> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we

are

> > here

> >> > on the forum.

> >> >>

> >> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !!

> > Please

> >> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> > compatibility

> >> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

additional

> >> > question - has it worked?

> >> >>

> >> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of

> > personal

> >> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

> > etc). Do

> >> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests?

> >> >>

> >> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have

> >> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!!

> >> >>

> >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> >>

> >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > insignificance. To

> >> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > disparity

> >> > of life around you.

> >> >>

> >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > complicate

> >> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

to

> >> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > never,

> >> > to forget.

> >> >>

> >> >>>

> >> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> >> >>>

> >> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> >>>

> >> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> >> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> >> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to

the

> >> > issue.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility

> > tests

> >> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers

> >> > capability

> >> >>> of doing a good job ?

> >> >>>

> >> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

compatibility

> >> > tests

> >> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> >> > incapability

> >> >>> to do a good job ?

> >> >>>

> >> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in

> >> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> >> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the

> > right

> >> >>> subject for us to persue.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> Now,

> >> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and

> > the

> >> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

> > will not

> >> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even

> >> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

> > even if

> >> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood

> > and

> >> > make

> >> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> >> >>>

> >> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by

> >> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> >> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

> >> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> >> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my

Jup

> >> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> > quarter

> >> >>> whisky daily ?

> >> >>>

> >> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit

> > at

> >> > home

> >> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> > dasha and

> >> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay

> > while

> >> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person

> > to

> >> > give

> >> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> >> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> >> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching

a

> > chart

> >> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> > deliverance

> >> >>> of actions on part of the native.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> regards,

> >> >>> Bhaskar.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> >> >>> wrote:

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to

> > why did

> >> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster

> > or

> >> > could

> >> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> > through

> >> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> > eagerly

> >> >>> listening.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > insignificance. To

> >> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> >> > disparity

> >> >>> of life around you.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > complicate

> >> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

all,

> > to

> >> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

never,

> >> > never,

> >> >>> to forget.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

advisors

> >> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> > understand the

> >> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who

> > have

> >> > not

> >> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

have

> > not

> >> >>> been

> >> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way

> > to

> >> > save

> >> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so

> > when can

> >> >>> be

> >> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

Just

> > Guna,

> >> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help

in

> >> >>> solitary,

> >> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether

> > the boy

> >> >>> (If

> >> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

life

> > after

> >> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> > sustaining

> >> > the

> >> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

> > other

> >> >>> ones ,

> >> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> >>>>>

, "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>> regards,

> >> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> >> > <jyotish@>

> >> >>>>>> wrote:

> >> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> >> > professional

> >> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> >> >>> compatibility

> >> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> >> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm

it;

> > for

> >> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> > house, 7th

> >> >>>>> from

> >> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus

> > for

> >> > man

> >> >>>>> and

> >> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> >> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> > wicked

> >> >>> league

> >> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> > woman, in

> >> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> >> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

> > great

> >> >>> thing,

> >> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> >> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is

> > waiting

> >> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for

> > her

> >> > man,

> >> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even

> > if the

> >> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> >> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise

> > for her

> >> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> > considered a

> >> >>>>> real

> >> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may

> > not

> >> > have

> >> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> >> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot.

> >> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> > latter

> >> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> > bataiye.

> >> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> >> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>> regards,

> >> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> >> >>>>> <jyotish@>

> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be

> > happy

> >> >>>>> with

> >> >>>>>>>> wife.

> >> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> > wicked

> >> >>>>> league

> >> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> > woman,

> >> > in

> >> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> >> >>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >> >>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> >> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> >> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> >> >>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > , "jaibabedi2004"

> >> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will

find

> >> >>>>>> difference

> >> >>>>>>>>>> of

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> > house.

> >> >>>>> Computer

> >> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

different

> >> > time,

> >> >>>>>> Your

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

> > watch

> >> > will

> >> >>>>>> show

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

every

> >> > birth

> >> >>>>> the

> >> >>>>>>>>>>> time

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> > required

> >> > while

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is

> > going

> >> > to

> >> >>>>>>>>>> create

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions

> > given

> >> > to

> >> >>>>>>>>>> client

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

science

> >> > itself.

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth

> > time

> >> > and

> >> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever

> > Bhava

> >> >>>>>> question

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

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August 16, 2006

Dear Prafullaji,

I do not have much analytical prowess maybe, but whatever I have ,

dont You think I have put my explanations technical for ex.birth

rectification etc. while predicting for all to learn ?

I have also aaccepted with all humility that there is always a inner

desire to earn also alongwith giving free service ?

These both characteristics You ave witnessed in me what would You

call that ?

Why do we always put our hands beneath/behind back of stalwarts and

not on small people who are also upcoming in their own way ?

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

>

> In my experience, Shri San is superb. His analytical skills are

unmatched. In modern context, he is at par with many stalwarts. And

one big thing, he shares his knowledge. and he demonstrates his

application. His reading, even on forum - will seldom be one liner.

and All his students, follow this practice. That is why, his forums

are best learning ground for jyotish students. Perhaps, limited

interactions will not make one know of his abilities.

>

> I skipped few more good names - Ash (of KAS list), Visti, Rafal,

Sanjay P, Ranjan ji, Ganapathy Sharma etc on - who has impressed me

over the years. I have great respect for their analytical skills and

rationalized predictive abilities. Personally, I always have liked

the astrologers, who do not hide into intuitive reasonings. and they

predict with the reasons. This is done by Shri Kumar ji on this forum

to an extent..so it is excellent. This is strictly, my personal

opinion.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To

never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity

of life around you.

>

> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never,

to forget.

>

> >

> > bhaskar_jyotish

> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:44:40 -0000

> >

> > Re: marriage..current perspective

> >

> > Dear Sri Ganesh,

> >

> > Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

> > orator.

> > He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on astrology

and

> > planets etc.

> > But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

> > I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

> > KrishnaMurthiji.

> > I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

> > am not convinced.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Sriganeshh

> >>

> >> Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

> > article on predicting on marriage - including type of marriages.

(I

> > think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

> > explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

> > astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

> > current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

> > knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too

clear as

> > well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

rationale

> > of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

> > stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

> >>

> >> Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

> > elaboratedly.

> >>

> >> Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

tuned

> > the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings for

> > antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study to

> > read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

relationships,

> > marriage breakups etc.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To

> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

disparity

> > of life around you.

> >>

> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

never,

> > to forget.

> >>

> >>>

> >>> sriganeshh@

> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

> >>>

> >>> Dear Prashantji,

> >>>

> >>> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage still

> >>> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking why

> > the

> >>> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> > thread

> >>> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> > comments

> >>>

> >>> sriganeshh

> >>>

> >>> , Prashant Kumar G B

> >>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Prafulla

> >>>>

> >>>> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> >>>> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will get

a

> >>> right chart and even marry.

> >>>>

> >>>> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

rectify

> >>> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

> >>> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

fate

> >>> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

seen

> >>> these happen.

> >>>>

> >>>> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> >>> endangered species.

> >>>>

> >>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> >>> wrote: Dear

> > Bhaskar

> >>> ji

> >>>>

> >>>> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

have

> >>> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test

> >>> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

someone,

> >>> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> >>>>

> >>>> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

These

> >>> are my observations!!

> >>>>

> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>

> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

insignificance.

> >>> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> >>> disparity of life around you.

> >>>>

> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > complicate

> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > never,

> >>> to forget.

> >>>>

> >>>> >

> >>>> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Dear Prafullaji,

> >>>> >

> >>>> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> >>>> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> >>>> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> >>>> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> >>>> > comment,

> >>>> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> >>>> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

> > life

> >>> will

> >>>> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap

> >>> doosri

> >>>> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

astrologers

> >>>> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married

to

> > a

> >>>> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> >>>> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

> > found

> >>>> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

> >>> picture

> >>>> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> >>>> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> >>>> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

qualities

> >>>> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> >>>> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> >>>> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> >>> question.

> >>>> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> >>> would have

> >>>> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> > authoratarian.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> >>>> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> > property,

> >>>> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as

the

> >>>> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as

> >>>> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> >>>> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> >>>> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> >>>> > of the query in question.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> >>> without any

> >>>> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause

> >>>> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell

> > is

> >>>> > different than what looks apparently.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

> >>> wall ? How

> >>>> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because

of

> >>> destiny

> >>>> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> >>> discuss

> >>>> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > regards,

> >>>> > Bhaskar.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > , Prafulla Gang

> >>> <jyotish@>

> >>>> > wrote:

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made

a

> >>> very

> >>>> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance

of

> >>>> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we

> > are

> >>> here

> >>>> > on the forum.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !!

> >>> Please

> >>>> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> >>> compatibility

> >>>> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> > additional

> >>>> > question - has it worked?

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of

> >>> personal

> >>>> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

> >>> etc). Do

> >>>> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

tests?

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have

> >>>> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!!

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >>> insignificance. To

> >>>> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> >>> disparity

> >>>> > of life around you.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> >>> complicate

> >>>> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

all,

> > to

> >>>> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

never,

> >>> never,

> >>>> > to forget.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> >>>> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> >>>> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to

> > the

> >>>> > issue.

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

compatibility

> >>> tests

> >>>> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers

> >>>> > capability

> >>>> >>> of doing a good job ?

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> > compatibility

> >>>> > tests

> >>>> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> >>>> > incapability

> >>>> >>> to do a good job ?

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above

in

> >>>> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> >>>> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the

> >>> right

> >>>> >>> subject for us to persue.

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> Now,

> >>>> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable

and

> >>> the

> >>>> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

> >>> will not

> >>>> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even

> >>>> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

> >>> even if

> >>>> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

mood

> >>> and

> >>>> > make

> >>>> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by

> >>>> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> >>>> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

> >>>> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> >>>> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my

> > Jup

> >>>> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> >>> quarter

> >>>> >>> whisky daily ?

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I

sit

> >>> at

> >>>> > home

> >>>> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> >>> dasha and

> >>>> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making

hay

> >>> while

> >>>> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

person

> >>> to

> >>>> > give

> >>>> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> >>>> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> >>>> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

watching

> > a

> >>> chart

> >>>> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> >>> deliverance

> >>>> >>> of actions on part of the native.

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> regards,

> >>>> >>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> , Prafulla Gang

> >>> <jyotish@>

> >>>> >>> wrote:

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as

to

> >>> why did

> >>>> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

disaster

> >>> or

> >>>> > could

> >>>> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> >>> through

> >>>> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> >>> eagerly

> >>>> >>> listening.

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> >>> insignificance. To

> >>>> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> >>>> > disparity

> >>>> >>> of life around you.

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> >>> complicate

> >>>> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> > all,

> >>> to

> >>>> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > never,

> >>>> > never,

> >>>> >>> to forget.

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>>>

> >>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> >>>> >>>>>

> >>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> >>>>>

> >>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> > advisors

> >>>> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> >>> understand the

> >>>> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those

who

> >>> have

> >>>> > not

> >>>> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

> > have

> >>> not

> >>>> >>> been

> >>>> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another

way

> >>> to

> >>>> > save

> >>>> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so

> >>> when can

> >>>> >>> be

> >>>> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

> > Just

> >>> Guna,

> >>>> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help

> > in

> >>>> >>> solitary,

> >>>> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether

> >>> the boy

> >>>> >>> (If

> >>>> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

> > life

> >>> after

> >>>> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> >>> sustaining

> >>>> > the

> >>>> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

> >>> other

> >>>> >>> ones ,

> >>>> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> >>>> >>>>>

> >>>> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> >>>>>

> >>>> >>>>> --- In

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >>>> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> >>>> >>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>> regards,

> >>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> >>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> >>>> > <jyotish@>

> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> >>>> > professional

> >>>> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> >>>> >>> compatibility

> >>>> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm

> > it;

> >>> for

> >>>> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> >>> house, 7th

> >>>> >>>>> from

> >>>> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

venus

> >>> for

> >>>> > man

> >>>> >>>>> and

> >>>> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> >>> wicked

> >>>> >>> league

> >>>> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> >>> woman, in

> >>>> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

> >>> great

> >>>> >>> thing,

> >>>> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is

> >>> waiting

> >>>> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting

for

> >>> her

> >>>> > man,

> >>>> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

even

> >>> if the

> >>>> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> >>>> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise

> >>> for her

> >>>> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> >>> considered a

> >>>> >>>>> real

> >>>> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he

may

> >>> not

> >>>> > have

> >>>> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

cannot.

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> >>> latter

> >>>> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> >>> bataiye.

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> regards,

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

Gang

> >>>> >>>>> <jyotish@>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives,

be

> >>> happy

> >>>> >>>>> with

> >>>> >>>>>>>> wife.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> >>> wicked

> >>>> >>>>> league

> >>>> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> >>> woman,

> >>>> > in

> >>>> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> >>> , "jaibabedi2004"

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will

> > find

> >>>> >>>>>> difference

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> >>> house.

> >>>> >>>>> Computer

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> > different

> >>>> > time,

> >>>> >>>>>> Your

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

> >>> watch

> >>>> > will

> >>>> >>>>>> show

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

> > every

> >>>> > birth

> >>>> >>>>> the

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> >>> required

> >>>> > while

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time

is

> >>> going

> >>>> > to

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> create

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

predictions

> >>> given

> >>>> > to

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> client

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> > science

> >>>> > itself.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

birth

> >>> time

> >>>> > and

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

whichever

> >>> Bhava

> >>>> >>>>>> question

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not

Charged

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>

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> >>>>

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August 16, 2006

Dear Prafullaji,

Interaction is not necessary to know about any individual. Did we all

have enough interaction with Shri BV Raman or Shri KrishnaMurty or

Mr. Amitabh Bachhan or Aishwarya Rai,to form a decesion about them ?

Did You notice that I have always been straight forwad in putting my

views before the Forum members at the cost of making few adversaries

at the same time asking for forgiveness whenever I have hurt them

intenionally or unintenionally ?

Would You ever have a good word for me ?

Or till I am able to form a good relationship with You or a good

public name like Shri Rathji, will You reserve Your good comments

till then ?

Its very easy to condemn but once in a while a few words of

encouragement always helps.

regards,

Bhaskar .

, "bhaskar_jyotish"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Prafullaji,

>

> I do not have much analytical prowess maybe, but whatever I have ,

> dont You think I have put my explanations technical for ex.birth

> rectification etc. while predicting for all to learn ?

> I have also aaccepted with all humility that there is always a

inner

> desire to earn also alongwith giving free service ?

> These both characteristics You ave witnessed in me what would You

> call that ?

> Why do we always put our hands beneath/behind back of stalwarts and

> not on small people who are also upcoming in their own way ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji

> >

> > In my experience, Shri San is superb. His analytical skills are

> unmatched. In modern context, he is at par with many stalwarts. And

> one big thing, he shares his knowledge. and he demonstrates his

> application. His reading, even on forum - will seldom be one liner.

> and All his students, follow this practice. That is why, his forums

> are best learning ground for jyotish students. Perhaps, limited

> interactions will not make one know of his abilities.

> >

> > I skipped few more good names - Ash (of KAS list), Visti, Rafal,

> Sanjay P, Ranjan ji, Ganapathy Sharma etc on - who has impressed me

> over the years. I have great respect for their analytical skills

and

> rationalized predictive abilities. Personally, I always have liked

> the astrologers, who do not hide into intuitive reasonings. and

they

> predict with the reasons. This is done by Shri Kumar ji on this

forum

> to an extent..so it is excellent. This is strictly, my personal

> opinion.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To

> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

disparity

> of life around you.

> >

> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never,

> to forget.

> >

> > >

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:44:40 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: marriage..current perspective

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Ganesh,

> > >

> > > Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

> > > orator.

> > > He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on

astrology

> and

> > > planets etc.

> > > But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

> > > I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

> > > KrishnaMurthiji.

> > > I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

> > > am not convinced.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear Sriganeshh

> > >>

> > >> Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

> > > article on predicting on marriage - including type of

marriages.

> (I

> > > think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

> > > explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

> > > astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

> > > current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

> > > knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too

> clear as

> > > well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

> rationale

> > > of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

> > > stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

> > >>

> > >> Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

> > > elaboratedly.

> > >>

> > >> Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

> tuned

> > > the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings

for

> > > antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study

to

> > > read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

> relationships,

> > > marriage breakups etc.

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

To

> > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity

> > > of life around you.

> > >>

> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

complicate

> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> never,

> > > to forget.

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> sriganeshh@

> > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Prashantji,

> > >>>

> > >>> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

still

> > >>> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

why

> > > the

> > >>> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> > > thread

> > >>> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> > > comments

> > >>>

> > >>> sriganeshh

> > >>>

> > >>> , Prashant Kumar G B

> > >>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Prafulla

> > >>>>

> > >>>> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> > >>>> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

get

> a

> > >>> right chart and even marry.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

> rectify

> > >>> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

a

> > >>> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

> fate

> > >>> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

> seen

> > >>> these happen.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> > >>> endangered species.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > >>> wrote: Dear

> > > Bhaskar

> > >>> ji

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

> have

> > >>> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

test

> > >>> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

> someone,

> > >>> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

> These

> > >>> are my observations!!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>

> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance.

> > >>> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > >>> disparity of life around you.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > > complicate

> > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

to

> > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > > never,

> > >>> to forget.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Dear Prafullaji,

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > >>>> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > >>>> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > >>>> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > >>>> > comment,

> > >>>> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > >>>> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

> > > life

> > >>> will

> > >>>> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

Aap

> > >>> doosri

> > >>>> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

> astrologers

> > >>>> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

married

> to

> > > a

> > >>>> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > >>>> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

> > > found

> > >>>> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

whole

> > >>> picture

> > >>>> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > >>>> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > >>>> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

> qualities

> > >>>> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > >>>> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > >>>> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> > >>> question.

> > >>>> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> > >>> would have

> > >>>> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> > > authoratarian.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > >>>> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> > > property,

> > >>>> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

as

> the

> > >>>> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated

as

> > >>>> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > >>>> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > >>>> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> > >>>> > of the query in question.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> > >>> without any

> > >>>> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

cause

> > >>>> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

nutshell

> > > is

> > >>>> > different than what looks apparently.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

the

> > >>> wall ? How

> > >>>> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

because

> of

> > >>> destiny

> > >>>> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> > >>> discuss

> > >>>> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > regards,

> > >>>> > Bhaskar.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > , Prafulla Gang

> > >>> <jyotish@>

> > >>>> > wrote:

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

made

> a

> > >>> very

> > >>>> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

relevance

> of

> > >>>> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

we

> > > are

> > >>> here

> > >>>> > on the forum.

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

measure !!

> > >>> Please

> > >>>> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> > >>> compatibility

> > >>>> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> > > additional

> > >>>> > question - has it worked?

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

of

> > >>> personal

> > >>>> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

issues

> > >>> etc). Do

> > >>>> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

> tests?

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

have

> > >>>> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

proven!!!

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > >>> insignificance. To

> > >>>> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> > >>> disparity

> > >>>> > of life around you.

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >>>> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > >>> complicate

> > >>>> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> all,

> > > to

> > >>>> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> never,

> > >>> never,

> > >>>> > to forget.

> > >>>> >>

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> > >>>> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> > >>>> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

to

> > > the

> > >>>> > issue.

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

> compatibility

> > >>> tests

> > >>>> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

astrologers

> > >>>> > capability

> > >>>> >>> of doing a good job ?

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> > > compatibility

> > >>>> > tests

> > >>>> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> > >>>> > incapability

> > >>>> >>> to do a good job ?

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

above

> in

> > >>>> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> > >>>> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

the

> > >>> right

> > >>>> >>> subject for us to persue.

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> Now,

> > >>>> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

irreperable

> and

> > >>> the

> > >>>> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli,

or

> > >>> will not

> > >>>> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

even

> > >>>> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer,

or

> > >>> even if

> > >>>> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

> mood

> > >>> and

> > >>>> > make

> > >>>> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made

by

> > >>>> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> > >>>> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

time

> > >>>> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> > >>>> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

my

> > > Jup

> > >>>> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> > >>> quarter

> > >>>> >>> whisky daily ?

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if

I

> sit

> > >>> at

> > >>>> > home

> > >>>> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> > >>> dasha and

> > >>>> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

making

> hay

> > >>> while

> > >>>> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

> person

> > >>> to

> > >>>> > give

> > >>>> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> > >>>> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> > >>>> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

> watching

> > > a

> > >>> chart

> > >>>> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> > >>> deliverance

> > >>>> >>> of actions on part of the native.

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> regards,

> > >>>> >>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>> >>>

> > >>>> >>> , Prafulla Gang

> > >>> <jyotish@>

> > >>>> >>> wrote:

> > >>>> >>>>

> > >>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

as

> to

> > >>> why did

> > >>>> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

> disaster

> > >>> or

> > >>>> > could

> > >>>> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> > >>> through

> > >>>> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> > >>> eagerly

> > >>>> >>> listening.

> > >>>> >>>>

> > >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>> >>>>

> > >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > >>> insignificance. To

> > >>>> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> vulgar

> > >>>> > disparity

> > >>>> >>> of life around you.

> > >>>> >>>>

> > >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >>>> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > >>> complicate

> > >>>> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> > > all,

> > >>> to

> > >>>> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > > never,

> > >>>> > never,

> > >>>> >>> to forget.

> > >>>> >>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> > >>>> >>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>> >>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> > > advisors

> > >>>> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> > >>> understand the

> > >>>> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

those

> who

> > >>> have

> > >>>> > not

> > >>>> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

> > > have

> > >>> not

> > >>>> >>> been

> > >>>> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

another

> way

> > >>> to

> > >>>> > save

> > >>>> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

only,so

> > >>> when can

> > >>>> >>> be

> > >>>> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

> > > Just

> > >>> Guna,

> > >>>> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

help

> > > in

> > >>>> >>> solitary,

> > >>>> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

whether

> > >>> the boy

> > >>>> >>> (If

> > >>>> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

> > > life

> > >>> after

> > >>>> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> > >>> sustaining

> > >>>> > the

> > >>>> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

from

> > >>> other

> > >>>> >>> ones ,

> > >>>> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> > >>>> >>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>> >>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>> --- In

> > > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >>>> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>>> >>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> > >>>> >>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>> regards,

> > >>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>> >>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla

Gang

> > >>>> > <jyotish@>

> > >>>> >>>>>> wrote:

> > >>>> >>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> > >>>> > professional

> > >>>> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> > >>>> >>> compatibility

> > >>>> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

harm

> > > it;

> > >>> for

> > >>>> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> > >>> house, 7th

> > >>>> >>>>> from

> > >>>> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

> venus

> > >>> for

> > >>>> > man

> > >>>> >>>>> and

> > >>>> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>> >>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> > >>> wicked

> > >>>> >>> league

> > >>>> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> > >>> woman, in

> > >>>> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is

a

> > >>> great

> > >>>> >>> thing,

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

is

> > >>> waiting

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

waiting

> for

> > >>> her

> > >>>> > man,

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

> even

> > >>> if the

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

praise

> > >>> for her

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> > >>> considered a

> > >>>> >>>>> real

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

he

> may

> > >>> not

> > >>>> > have

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

> cannot.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> > >>> latter

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> > >>> bataiye.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

> > >>>> >>>>> <jyotish@>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

wives,

> be

> > >>> happy

> > >>>> >>>>> with

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> wife.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

in a

> > >>> wicked

> > >>>> >>>>> league

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

young

> > >>> woman,

> > >>>> > in

> > >>>> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > >>> , "jaibabedi2004"

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

will

> > > find

> > >>>> >>>>>> difference

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> of

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> > >>> house.

> > >>>> >>>>> Computer

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> > > different

> > >>>> > time,

> > >>>> >>>>>> Your

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

wrist

> > >>> watch

> > >>>> > will

> > >>>> >>>>>> show

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

> > > every

> > >>>> > birth

> > >>>> >>>>> the

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> > >>> required

> > >>>> > while

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

time

> is

> > >>> going

> > >>>> > to

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> create

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

> predictions

> > >>> given

> > >>>> > to

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> client

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> > > science

> > >>>> > itself.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

> birth

> > >>> time

> > >>>> > and

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

> whichever

> > >>> Bhava

> > >>>> >>>>>> question

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not

> Charged

> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or

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August 16, 2006

Praises got to be contextual.

BTW, We form opinion based upon the experiences about people. I will like to know your bad experiences, making you to comment against Shri Rath ji. Do you know the selfless efforts, he does for jyotish promotion; the number of research papers he publishes !!

I know, many people (on various groups) writes wrong about him - for their own incompetencies and professional jealousy. Do not misread this with your note.

regards / Prafulla Gang

To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you.

To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget.

>

> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in

> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:51:01 -0000

>

> Re: marriage..current perspective

>

> Dear Prafullaji,

>

> Interaction is not necessary to know about any individual. Did we all

> have enough interaction with Shri BV Raman or Shri KrishnaMurty or

> Mr. Amitabh Bachhan or Aishwarya Rai,to form a decesion about them ?

> Did You notice that I have always been straight forwad in putting my

> views before the Forum members at the cost of making few adversaries

> at the same time asking for forgiveness whenever I have hurt them

> intenionally or unintenionally ?

> Would You ever have a good word for me ?

> Or till I am able to form a good relationship with You or a good

> public name like Shri Rathji, will You reserve Your good comments

> till then ?

> Its very easy to condemn but once in a while a few words of

> encouragement always helps.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar .

>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>>

>> Dear Prafullaji,

>>

>> I do not have much analytical prowess maybe, but whatever I have ,

>> dont You think I have put my explanations technical for ex.birth

>> rectification etc. while predicting for all to learn ?

>> I have also aaccepted with all humility that there is always a

> inner

>> desire to earn also alongwith giving free service ?

>> These both characteristics You ave witnessed in me what would You

>> call that ?

>> Why do we always put our hands beneath/behind back of stalwarts and

>> not on small people who are also upcoming in their own way ?

>>

>> regards,

>> Bhaskar.

>>

>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Bhaskar ji

>>>

>>> In my experience, Shri San is superb. His analytical skills are

>> unmatched. In modern context, he is at par with many stalwarts. And

>> one big thing, he shares his knowledge. and he demonstrates his

>> application. His reading, even on forum - will seldom be one liner.

>> and All his students, follow this practice. That is why, his forums

>> are best learning ground for jyotish students. Perhaps, limited

>> interactions will not make one know of his abilities.

>>>

>>> I skipped few more good names - Ash (of KAS list), Visti, Rafal,

>> Sanjay P, Ranjan ji, Ganapathy Sharma etc on - who has impressed me

>> over the years. I have great respect for their analytical skills

> and

>> rationalized predictive abilities. Personally, I always have liked

>> the astrologers, who do not hide into intuitive reasonings. and

> they

>> predict with the reasons. This is done by Shri Kumar ji on this

> forum

>> to an extent..so it is excellent. This is strictly, my personal

>> opinion.

>>>

>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>

>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To

>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity

>> of life around you.

>>>

>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never,

>> to forget.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:44:40 -0000

>>>>

>>>> Re: marriage..current perspective

>>>>

>>>> Dear Sri Ganesh,

>>>>

>>>> Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

>>>> orator.

>>>> He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on

> astrology

>> and

>>>> planets etc.

>>>> But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

>>>> I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

>>>> KrishnaMurthiji.

>>>> I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

>>>> am not convinced.

>>>>

>>>> regards,

>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>

>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Sriganeshh

>>>>>

>>>>> Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

>>>> article on predicting on marriage - including type of

> marriages.

>> (I

>>>> think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

>>>> explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

>>>> astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

>>>> current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

>>>> knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too

>> clear as

>>>> well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

>> rationale

>>>> of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

>>>> stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

>>>>>

>>>>> Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

>>>> elaboratedly.

>>>>>

>>>>> Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

>> tuned

>>>> the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings

> for

>>>> antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study

> to

>>>> read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

>> relationships,

>>>> marriage breakups etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>

>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

> To

>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

>> disparity

>>>> of life around you.

>>>>>

>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

>> never,

>>>> to forget.

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> sriganeshh@

>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Prashantji,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

> still

>>>>>> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

> why

>>>> the

>>>>>> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

>>>> thread

>>>>>> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

>>>> comments

>>>>>>

>>>>>> sriganeshh

>>>>>>

>>>>>> , Prashant Kumar G B

>>>>>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Prafulla

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

>>>>>>> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

> get

>> a

>>>>>> right chart and even marry.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

>> rectify

>>>>>> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

> a

>>>>>> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

>> fate

>>>>>> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

>> seen

>>>>>> these happen.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

>>>>>> endangered species.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>>>>>> wrote: Dear

>>>> Bhaskar

>>>>>> ji

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

>> have

>>>>>> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

> test

>>>>>> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

>> someone,

>>>>>> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

>> These

>>>>>> are my observations!!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>> insignificance.

>>>>>> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

>>>>>> disparity of life around you.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>> complicate

>>>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

> to

>>>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

>>>> never,

>>>>>> to forget.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>>> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > Dear Prafullaji,

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

>>>>>>> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

>>>>>>> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

>>>>>>> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

>>>>>>> > comment,

>>>>>>> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

>>>>>>> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

>>>> life

>>>>>> will

>>>>>>> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

> Aap

>>>>>> doosri

>>>>>>> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

>> astrologers

>>>>>>> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

> married

>> to

>>>> a

>>>>>>> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

>>>>>>> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

>>>> found

>>>>>>> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

> whole

>>>>>> picture

>>>>>>> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

>>>>>>> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

>>>>>>> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

>> qualities

>>>>>>> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

>>>>>>> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

>>>>>>> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

>>>>>> question.

>>>>>>> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

>>>>>> would have

>>>>>>> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

>>>> authoratarian.

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

>>>>>>> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

>>>> property,

>>>>>>> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

> as

>> the

>>>>>>> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated

> as

>>>>>>> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

>>>>>>> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

>>>>>>> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

>>>>>>> > of the query in question.

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

>>>>>> without any

>>>>>>> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

> cause

>>>>>>> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

> nutshell

>>>> is

>>>>>>> > different than what looks apparently.

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

> the

>>>>>> wall ? How

>>>>>>> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

> because

>> of

>>>>>> destiny

>>>>>>> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

>>>>>> discuss

>>>>>>> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > regards,

>>>>>>> > Bhaskar.

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> > , Prafulla Gang

>>>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

> made

>> a

>>>>>> very

>>>>>>> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

> relevance

>> of

>>>>>>> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

> we

>>>> are

>>>>>> here

>>>>>>> > on the forum.

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

> measure !!

>>>>>> Please

>>>>>>> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

>>>>>> compatibility

>>>>>>> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

>>>> additional

>>>>>>> > question - has it worked?

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

> of

>>>>>> personal

>>>>>>> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

> issues

>>>>>> etc). Do

>>>>>>> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

>> tests?

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

> have

>>>>>>> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

> proven!!!

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>>>>>> insignificance. To

>>>>>>> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> vulgar

>>>>>> disparity

>>>>>>> > of life around you.

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>>>> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>>>> complicate

>>>>>>> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

>> all,

>>>> to

>>>>>>> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

>> never,

>>>>>> never,

>>>>>>> > to forget.

>>>>>>> >>

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>>> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

>>>>>>> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

>>>>>>> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

> to

>>>> the

>>>>>>> > issue.

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

>> compatibility

>>>>>> tests

>>>>>>> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

> astrologers

>>>>>>> > capability

>>>>>>> >>> of doing a good job ?

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

>>>> compatibility

>>>>>>> > tests

>>>>>>> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

>>>>>>> > incapability

>>>>>>> >>> to do a good job ?

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

> above

>> in

>>>>>>> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

>>>>>>> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

> the

>>>>>> right

>>>>>>> >>> subject for us to persue.

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> Now,

>>>>>>> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

> irreperable

>> and

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli,

> or

>>>>>> will not

>>>>>>> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

> even

>>>>>>> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer,

> or

>>>>>> even if

>>>>>>> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

>> mood

>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> > make

>>>>>>> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made

> by

>>>>>>> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

>>>>>>> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

> time

>>>>>>> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

>>>>>>> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

> my

>>>> Jup

>>>>>>> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

>>>>>> quarter

>>>>>>> >>> whisky daily ?

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if

> I

>> sit

>>>>>> at

>>>>>>> > home

>>>>>>> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

>>>>>> dasha and

>>>>>>> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

> making

>> hay

>>>>>> while

>>>>>>> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

>> person

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> > give

>>>>>>> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

>>>>>>> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

>>>>>>> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

>> watching

>>>> a

>>>>>> chart

>>>>>>> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

>>>>>> deliverance

>>>>>>> >>> of actions on part of the native.

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> regards,

>>>>>>> >>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>>> >>> , Prafulla Gang

>>>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>>>> >>> wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

> as

>> to

>>>>>> why did

>>>>>>> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

>> disaster

>>>>>> or

>>>>>>> > could

>>>>>>> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

>>>>>> through

>>>>>>> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

>>>>>> eagerly

>>>>>>> >>> listening.

>>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>>>>>> insignificance. To

>>>>>>> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

>> vulgar

>>>>>>> > disparity

>>>>>>> >>> of life around you.

>>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>>>> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>>>> complicate

>>>>>>> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

>>>> all,

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

>>>> never,

>>>>>>> > never,

>>>>>>> >>> to forget.

>>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>>> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

>>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

>>>> advisors

>>>>>>> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

>>>>>> understand the

>>>>>>> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

> those

>> who

>>>>>> have

>>>>>>> > not

>>>>>>> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

>>>> have

>>>>>> not

>>>>>>> >>> been

>>>>>>> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

> another

>> way

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> > save

>>>>>>> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

> only,so

>>>>>> when can

>>>>>>> >>> be

>>>>>>> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

>>>> Just

>>>>>> Guna,

>>>>>>> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

> help

>>>> in

>>>>>>> >>> solitary,

>>>>>>> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

> whether

>>>>>> the boy

>>>>>>> >>> (If

>>>>>>> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

>>>> life

>>>>>> after

>>>>>>> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

>>>>>> sustaining

>>>>>>> > the

>>>>>>> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

> from

>>>>>> other

>>>>>>> >>> ones ,

>>>>>>> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

>>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>> --- In

>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>>>>>>> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>> regards,

>>>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

>>>>>>> > <jyotish@>

>>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

>>>>>>> > professional

>>>>>>> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

>>>>>>> >>> compatibility

>>>>>>> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

> harm

>>>> it;

>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

>>>>>> house, 7th

>>>>>>> >>>>> from

>>>>>>> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

>> venus

>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> > man

>>>>>>> >>>>> and

>>>>>>> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

>>>>>> wicked

>>>>>>> >>> league

>>>>>>> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

>>>>>> woman, in

>>>>>>> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is

> a

>>>>>> great

>>>>>>> >>> thing,

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

> is

>>>>>> waiting

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

> waiting

>> for

>>>>>> her

>>>>>>> > man,

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

>> even

>>>>>> if the

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

> praise

>>>>>> for her

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

>>>>>> considered a

>>>>>>> >>>>> real

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

> he

>> may

>>>>>> not

>>>>>>> > have

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

>> cannot.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

>>>>>> latter

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

>>>>>> bataiye.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

>> Gang

>>>>>>> >>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

> wives,

>> be

>>>>>> happy

>>>>>>> >>>>> with

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wife.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

> in a

>>>>>> wicked

>>>>>>> >>>>> league

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> young

>>>>>> woman,

>>>>>>> > in

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004"

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

> will

>>>> find

>>>>>>> >>>>>> difference

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

>>>>>> house.

>>>>>>> >>>>> Computer

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

>>>> different

>>>>>>> > time,

>>>>>>> >>>>>> Your

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

> wrist

>>>>>> watch

>>>>>>> > will

>>>>>>> >>>>>> show

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

>>>> every

>>>>>>> > birth

>>>>>>> >>>>> the

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

>>>>>> required

>>>>>>> > while

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

> time

>> is

>>>>>> going

>>>>>>> > to

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> create

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

>> predictions

>>>>>> given

>>>>>>> > to

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> client

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

>>>> science

>>>>>>> > itself.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

>> birth

>>>>>> time

>>>>>>> > and

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

>> whichever

>>>>>> Bhava

>>>>>>> >>>>>> question

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

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August 17, 2006

Dear Bhaskarji,

I have not said anything abt sri.sanjay rathji and it is just

prafulla has directed me to read his notes and conveyed his personal

opinion but you addressing me specially in this context makes me

little nervous as i am a student of SJC and i dont want my guruji's

to see me in bad light...

second abt astrological predictions, i am of the opinion it is all

personal based on planetary movements of individual astrologers as

well as seekers at the time of analysis. I remember reading sometime

back that there is some verse in brihat jataka or samhita saying

only when the good time comes, the seeker will get good astrologer.

I dont like comparing today's people with stalwarts etc as i feel it

is wrong as every individual is unique and different in their own

way and in fact i firmly believe sri.sanjay rathji and narasimhaji

and host of others are truly a step ahead in disseminating their

knowledge freely through all forms of media ..where will you get

such a nice software like jhora with full features freely ...in fact

in this competitive world where your predictions are being

questioned by all and sundries, it is really commendable job they

are doing and i bow to these greats in reverence...

I had experience of consulting more than 15 years and i have seen

quite a precision predictions coming true which are done by my blind

astrologer sitting in remote part of this country and also some of

the ashtamangala prasna gone wrong inspite of the greatness of the

person concerned...what it conveys to me is as long as you are

humble and devote this vidya to goddess saraswathi or any form of

brain which controls your analysis part, you will come good

otherwise time will tell ...

hope you see this mail in right spirit....no offence intended..

regards

sriganeshh

, "bhaskar_jyotish"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Ganesh,

>

> Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

> orator.

> He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on astrology

and

> planets etc.

> But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

> I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

> KrishnaMurthiji.

> I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

> am not convinced.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sriganeshh

> >

> > Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

> article on predicting on marriage - including type of marriages.

(I

> think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

> explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

> astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

> current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

> knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too clear

as

> well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

rationale

> of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

> stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

> >

> > Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

> elaboratedly.

> >

> > Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

tuned

> the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings for

> antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study to

> read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

relationships,

> marriage breakups etc.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

To

> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

disparity

> of life around you.

> >

> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

never,

> to forget.

> >

> > >

> > > sriganeshh@

> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

> > >

> > > Dear Prashantji,

> > >

> > > just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

still

> > > valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

why

> the

> > > failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> thread

> > > of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> comments

> > >

> > > sriganeshh

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Prafulla

> > >>

> > >> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> > >> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

get a

> > > right chart and even marry.

> > >>

> > >> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

rectify

> > > it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

> > > copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

fate

> > > to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

seen

> > > these happen.

> > >>

> > >> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> > > endangered species.

> > >>

> > >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > > wrote: Dear

> Bhaskar

> > > ji

> > >>

> > >> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

have

> > > a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

test

> > > (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

someone,

> > > with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> > >>

> > >> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

These

> > > are my observations!!

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

insignificance.

> > > To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > > disparity of life around you.

> > >>

> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

to

> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> never,

> > > to forget.

> > >>

> > >> >

> > >> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> > >> >

> > >> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> >

> > >> > Dear Prafullaji,

> > >> >

> > >> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > >> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > >> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > >> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > >> > comment,

> > >> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > >> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

> life

> > > will

> > >> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

Aap

> > > doosri

> > >> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

astrologers

> > >> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married

to

> a

> > >> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > >> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

> found

> > >> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

> > > picture

> > >> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > >> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > >> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

qualities

> > >> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > >> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > >> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> > > question.

> > >> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> > > would have

> > >> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> authoratarian.

> > >> >

> > >> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > >> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> property,

> > >> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as

the

> > >> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated

as

> > >> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > >> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > >> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> > >> > of the query in question.

> > >> >

> > >> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> > > without any

> > >> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

cause

> > >> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

nutshell

> is

> > >> > different than what looks apparently.

> > >> >

> > >> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

> > > wall ? How

> > >> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

because of

> > > destiny

> > >> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> > >> >

> > >> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> > >> >

> > >> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> > > discuss

> > >> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> > >> >

> > >> > regards,

> > >> > Bhaskar.

> > >> >

> > >> > , Prafulla Gang

> > > <jyotish@>

> > >> > wrote:

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >> >>

> > >> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

made a

> > > very

> > >> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance

of

> > >> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

we

> are

> > > here

> > >> > on the forum.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

measure !!

> > > Please

> > >> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> > > compatibility

> > >> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> additional

> > >> > question - has it worked?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

of

> > > personal

> > >> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

> > > etc). Do

> > >> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

tests?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

have

> > >> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

proven!!!

> > >> >>

> > >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> >>

> > >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > > insignificance. To

> > >> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> > > disparity

> > >> > of life around you.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > > complicate

> > >> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

all,

> to

> > >> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

never,

> > > never,

> > >> > to forget.

> > >> >>

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> > >> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> > >> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

to

> the

> > >> > issue.

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

compatibility

> > > tests

> > >> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

astrologers

> > >> > capability

> > >> >>> of doing a good job ?

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> compatibility

> > >> > tests

> > >> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> > >> > incapability

> > >> >>> to do a good job ?

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above

in

> > >> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> > >> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

the

> > > right

> > >> >>> subject for us to persue.

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> Now,

> > >> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable

and

> > > the

> > >> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

> > > will not

> > >> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

even

> > >> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

> > > even if

> > >> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

mood

> > > and

> > >> > make

> > >> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made

by

> > >> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> > >> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

> > >> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> > >> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

my

> Jup

> > >> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> > > quarter

> > >> >>> whisky daily ?

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I

sit

> > > at

> > >> > home

> > >> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> > > dasha and

> > >> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making

hay

> > > while

> > >> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

person

> > > to

> > >> > give

> > >> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> > >> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> > >> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

watching

> a

> > > chart

> > >> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> > > deliverance

> > >> >>> of actions on part of the native.

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> regards,

> > >> >>> Bhaskar.

> > >> >>>

> > >> >>> , Prafulla Gang

> > > <jyotish@>

> > >> >>> wrote:

> > >> >>>>

> > >> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as

to

> > > why did

> > >> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

disaster

> > > or

> > >> > could

> > >> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> > > through

> > >> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> > > eagerly

> > >> >>> listening.

> > >> >>>>

> > >> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> >>>>

> > >> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > > insignificance. To

> > >> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

vulgar

> > >> > disparity

> > >> >>> of life around you.

> > >> >>>>

> > >> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > > complicate

> > >> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> all,

> > > to

> > >> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> never,

> > >> > never,

> > >> >>> to forget.

> > >> >>>>

> > >> >>>>>

> > >> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> > >> >>>>>

> > >> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> >>>>>

> > >> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> advisors

> > >> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> > > understand the

> > >> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those

who

> > > have

> > >> > not

> > >> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

> have

> > > not

> > >> >>> been

> > >> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another

way

> > > to

> > >> > save

> > >> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

only,so

> > > when can

> > >> >>> be

> > >> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

> Just

> > > Guna,

> > >> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

help

> in

> > >> >>> solitary,

> > >> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

whether

> > > the boy

> > >> >>> (If

> > >> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

> life

> > > after

> > >> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> > > sustaining

> > >> > the

> > >> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

> > > other

> > >> >>> ones ,

> > >> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> > >> >>>>>

> > >> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> >>>>>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >> >>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> > >> >>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>> regards,

> > >> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> >>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>> , Prafulla

Gang

> > >> > <jyotish@>

> > >> >>>>>> wrote:

> > >> >>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> > >> > professional

> > >> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> > >> >>> compatibility

> > >> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> > >> >>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

harm

> it;

> > > for

> > >> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> > > house, 7th

> > >> >>>>> from

> > >> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

venus

> > > for

> > >> > man

> > >> >>>>> and

> > >> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> > >> >>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> >>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> > > wicked

> > >> >>> league

> > >> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> > > woman, in

> > >> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >> >>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> > >> >>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> >>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

> > > great

> > >> >>> thing,

> > >> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> > >> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

is

> > > waiting

> > >> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting

for

> > > her

> > >> > man,

> > >> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

even

> > > if the

> > >> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> > >> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

praise

> > > for her

> > >> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> > > considered a

> > >> >>>>> real

> > >> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he

may

> > > not

> > >> > have

> > >> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> > >> >>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

cannot.

> > >> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> > > latter

> > >> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> > > bataiye.

> > >> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> > >> >>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>> regards,

> > >> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> >>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

Gang

> > >> >>>>> <jyotish@>

> > >> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

wives, be

> > > happy

> > >> >>>>> with

> > >> >>>>>>>> wife.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in

a

> > > wicked

> > >> >>>>> league

> > >> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

young

> > > woman,

> > >> > in

> > >> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > > , "jaibabedi2004"

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

will

> find

> > >> >>>>>> difference

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> of

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> > > house.

> > >> >>>>> Computer

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> different

> > >> > time,

> > >> >>>>>> Your

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

> > > watch

> > >> > will

> > >> >>>>>> show

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

> every

> > >> > birth

> > >> >>>>> the

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> time

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> > > required

> > >> > while

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

time is

> > > going

> > >> > to

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> create

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

predictions

> > > given

> > >> > to

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> client

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> science

> > >> > itself.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

birth

> > > time

> > >> > and

> > >> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

whichever

> > > Bhava

> > >> >>>>>> question

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not

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> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or

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> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged.

> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

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August 17, 2006

Dear Sri Ganeshji,

Absolutely seconded. I have already mentioned in my previous mail

that I really respect Shri Rathji very much. Whenever I may

have time in future I have earmarked it for listening to his lectures.

He speaks so beautifully. His predictive powers.... may be I have

said that because continous interactions for few years has not been

done with, on my part as Shri Prafullaji suggested, But thats an

individual opinion and opinions do change with passage of time,

so not to think much.

Theres no question that the man is great in disseminating all

knowledge he posseses freely to all students, and knowledge he

has is plenty, no doubt, as of today I may say he is one of

the best living astrologers in India we are fortunate to be in

shadow of. I bow to his oratory powers and style of teaching.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "sriganeshh"

<sriganeshh wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I have not said anything abt sri.sanjay rathji and it is just

> prafulla has directed me to read his notes and conveyed his

personal

> opinion but you addressing me specially in this context makes me

> little nervous as i am a student of SJC and i dont want my guruji's

> to see me in bad light...

>

> second abt astrological predictions, i am of the opinion it is all

> personal based on planetary movements of individual astrologers as

> well as seekers at the time of analysis. I remember reading

sometime

> back that there is some verse in brihat jataka or samhita saying

> only when the good time comes, the seeker will get good astrologer.

>

> I dont like comparing today's people with stalwarts etc as i feel

it

> is wrong as every individual is unique and different in their own

> way and in fact i firmly believe sri.sanjay rathji and narasimhaji

> and host of others are truly a step ahead in disseminating their

> knowledge freely through all forms of media ..where will you get

> such a nice software like jhora with full features freely ...in

fact

> in this competitive world where your predictions are being

> questioned by all and sundries, it is really commendable job they

> are doing and i bow to these greats in reverence...

>

> I had experience of consulting more than 15 years and i have seen

> quite a precision predictions coming true which are done by my

blind

> astrologer sitting in remote part of this country and also some of

> the ashtamangala prasna gone wrong inspite of the greatness of the

> person concerned...what it conveys to me is as long as you are

> humble and devote this vidya to goddess saraswathi or any form of

> brain which controls your analysis part, you will come good

> otherwise time will tell ...

>

> hope you see this mail in right spirit....no offence intended..

>

> regards

> sriganeshh

>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Ganesh,

> >

> > Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

> > orator.

> > He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on astrology

> and

> > planets etc.

> > But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

> > I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

> > KrishnaMurthiji.

> > I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

> > am not convinced.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sriganeshh

> > >

> > > Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

> > article on predicting on marriage - including type of marriages.

> (I

> > think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

> > explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

> > astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

> > current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

> > knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too

clear

> as

> > well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

> rationale

> > of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

> > stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

> > >

> > > Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

> > elaboratedly.

> > >

> > > Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

> tuned

> > the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings

for

> > antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study to

> > read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

> relationships,

> > marriage breakups etc.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

> To

> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity

> > of life around you.

> > >

> > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

complicate

> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> never,

> > to forget.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > sriganeshh@

> > > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashantji,

> > > >

> > > > just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

> still

> > > > valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

> why

> > the

> > > > failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

> > thread

> > > > of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

> > comments

> > > >

> > > > sriganeshh

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> Prafulla

> > > >>

> > > >> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> > > >> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

> get a

> > > > right chart and even marry.

> > > >>

> > > >> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

> rectify

> > > > it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

a

> > > > copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

> fate

> > > > to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

> seen

> > > > these happen.

> > > >>

> > > >> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> > > > endangered species.

> > > >>

> > > >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote: Dear

> > Bhaskar

> > > > ji

> > > >>

> > > >> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

> have

> > > > a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

> test

> > > > (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

> someone,

> > > > with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> > > >>

> > > >> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

> These

> > > > are my observations!!

> > > >>

> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >>

> > > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance.

> > > > To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > > > disparity of life around you.

> > > >>

> > > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > complicate

> > > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

> to

> > > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > never,

> > > > to forget.

> > > >>

> > > >> >

> > > >> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > >> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Dear Prafullaji,

> > > >> >

> > > >> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > > >> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > > >> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > > >> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > > >> > comment,

> > > >> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > > >> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko.

Your

> > life

> > > > will

> > > >> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

> Aap

> > > > doosri

> > > >> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

> astrologers

> > > >> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

married

> to

> > a

> > > >> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > > >> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would

have

> > found

> > > >> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

whole

> > > > picture

> > > >> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > > >> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > > >> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

> qualities

> > > >> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > > >> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > > >> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> > > > question.

> > > >> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> > > > would have

> > > >> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

> > authoratarian.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > > >> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

> > property,

> > > >> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

as

> the

> > > >> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated

> as

> > > >> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > > >> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > > >> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> > > >> > of the query in question.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> > > > without any

> > > >> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

> cause

> > > >> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

> nutshell

> > is

> > > >> > different than what looks apparently.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

the

> > > > wall ? How

> > > >> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

> because of

> > > > destiny

> > > >> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> > > > discuss

> > > >> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > regards,

> > > >> > Bhaskar.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > , Prafulla Gang

> > > > <jyotish@>

> > > >> > wrote:

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

> made a

> > > > very

> > > >> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

relevance

> of

> > > >> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

> we

> > are

> > > > here

> > > >> > on the forum.

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

> measure !!

> > > > Please

> > > >> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> > > > compatibility

> > > >> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

> > additional

> > > >> > question - has it worked?

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

> of

> > > > personal

> > > >> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

issues

> > > > etc). Do

> > > >> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

> tests?

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

> have

> > > >> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

> proven!!!

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > > > insignificance. To

> > > >> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> vulgar

> > > > disparity

> > > >> > of life around you.

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > > >> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > > > complicate

> > > >> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> all,

> > to

> > > >> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> never,

> > > > never,

> > > >> > to forget.

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > >> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> > > >> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> > > >> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

> to

> > the

> > > >> > issue.

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

> compatibility

> > > > tests

> > > >> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

> astrologers

> > > >> > capability

> > > >> >>> of doing a good job ?

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

> > compatibility

> > > >> > tests

> > > >> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> > > >> > incapability

> > > >> >>> to do a good job ?

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

above

> in

> > > >> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> > > >> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

> the

> > > > right

> > > >> >>> subject for us to persue.

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> Now,

> > > >> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

irreperable

> and

> > > > the

> > > >> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli,

or

> > > > will not

> > > >> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

> even

> > > >> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer,

or

> > > > even if

> > > >> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

> mood

> > > > and

> > > >> > make

> > > >> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made

> by

> > > >> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> > > >> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

time

> > > >> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> > > >> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

> my

> > Jup

> > > >> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> > > > quarter

> > > >> >>> whisky daily ?

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if

I

> sit

> > > > at

> > > >> > home

> > > >> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> > > > dasha and

> > > >> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

making

> hay

> > > > while

> > > >> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

> person

> > > > to

> > > >> > give

> > > >> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> > > >> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> > > >> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

> watching

> > a

> > > > chart

> > > >> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> > > > deliverance

> > > >> >>> of actions on part of the native.

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> regards,

> > > >> >>> Bhaskar.

> > > >> >>>

> > > >> >>> , Prafulla Gang

> > > > <jyotish@>

> > > >> >>> wrote:

> > > >> >>>>

> > > >> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

as

> to

> > > > why did

> > > >> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

> disaster

> > > > or

> > > >> > could

> > > >> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> > > > through

> > > >> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> > > > eagerly

> > > >> >>> listening.

> > > >> >>>>

> > > >> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >> >>>>

> > > >> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> > > > insignificance. To

> > > >> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> vulgar

> > > >> > disparity

> > > >> >>> of life around you.

> > > >> >>>>

> > > >> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > > >> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> > > > complicate

> > > >> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power.

Above

> > all,

> > > > to

> > > >> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> > never,

> > > >> > never,

> > > >> >>> to forget.

> > > >> >>>>

> > > >> >>>>>

> > > >> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > >> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> > > >> >>>>>

> > > >> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > > >> >>>>>

> > > >> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

> > advisors

> > > >> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> > > > understand the

> > > >> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

those

> who

> > > > have

> > > >> > not

> > > >> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their

charts

> > have

> > > > not

> > > >> >>> been

> > > >> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

another

> way

> > > > to

> > > >> > save

> > > >> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

> only,so

> > > > when can

> > > >> >>> be

> > > >> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all

cases.

> > Just

> > > > Guna,

> > > >> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

> help

> > in

> > > >> >>> solitary,

> > > >> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

> whether

> > > > the boy

> > > >> >>> (If

> > > >> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming

in

> > life

> > > > after

> > > >> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> > > > sustaining

> > > >> > the

> > > >> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

from

> > > > other

> > > >> >>> ones ,

> > > >> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> > > >> >>>>>

> > > >> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > >> >>>>>

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > >> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >> >>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> > > >> >>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>> regards,

> > > >> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > >> >>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

> > > >> > <jyotish@>

> > > >> >>>>>> wrote:

> > > >> >>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> > > >> > professional

> > > >> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> > > >> >>> compatibility

> > > >> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> > > >> >>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

> harm

> > it;

> > > > for

> > > >> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> > > > house, 7th

> > > >> >>>>> from

> > > >> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

> venus

> > > > for

> > > >> > man

> > > >> >>>>> and

> > > >> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> > > >> >>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >> >>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> > > > wicked

> > > >> >>> league

> > > >> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> > > > woman, in

> > > >> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > > >> >>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> > > >> >>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > > >> >>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is

a

> > > > great

> > > >> >>> thing,

> > > >> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

> is

> > > > waiting

> > > >> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

waiting

> for

> > > > her

> > > >> > man,

> > > >> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

> even

> > > > if the

> > > >> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> > > >> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

> praise

> > > > for her

> > > >> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> > > > considered a

> > > >> >>>>> real

> > > >> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

he

> may

> > > > not

> > > >> > have

> > > >> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

> cannot.

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> > > > latter

> > > >> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> > > > bataiye.

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> regards,

> > > >> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

> > > >> >>>>> <jyotish@>

> > > >> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

> wives, be

> > > > happy

> > > >> >>>>> with

> > > >> >>>>>>>> wife.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

in

> a

> > > > wicked

> > > >> >>>>> league

> > > >> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> young

> > > > woman,

> > > >> > in

> > > >> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > > > , "jaibabedi2004"

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

> will

> > find

> > > >> >>>>>> difference

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> of

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> > > > house.

> > > >> >>>>> Computer

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

> > different

> > > >> > time,

> > > >> >>>>>> Your

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

wrist

> > > > watch

> > > >> > will

> > > >> >>>>>> show

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that

for

> > every

> > > >> > birth

> > > >> >>>>> the

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> time

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> > > > required

> > > >> > while

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

> time is

> > > > going

> > > >> > to

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> create

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

> predictions

> > > > given

> > > >> > to

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> client

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

> > science

> > > >> > itself.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

> birth

> > > > time

> > > >> > and

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

> whichever

> > > > Bhava

> > > >> >>>>>> question

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>

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August 17, 2006

Dear Bhaskar ji

Good to read your good words !!

regards / Prafulla Gang

To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you.

To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget.

>

> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in

> Thu, 17 Aug 2006 05:18:04 -0000

>

> Re: marriage..current perspective

>

> Dear Sri Ganeshji,

>

> Absolutely seconded. I have already mentioned in my previous mail

> that I really respect Shri Rathji very much. Whenever I may

> have time in future I have earmarked it for listening to his lectures.

> He speaks so beautifully. His predictive powers.... may be I have

> said that because continous interactions for few years has not been

> done with, on my part as Shri Prafullaji suggested, But thats an

> individual opinion and opinions do change with passage of time,

> so not to think much.

> Theres no question that the man is great in disseminating all

> knowledge he posseses freely to all students, and knowledge he

> has is plenty, no doubt, as of today I may say he is one of

> the best living astrologers in India we are fortunate to be in

> shadow of. I bow to his oratory powers and style of teaching.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "sriganeshh"

> <sriganeshh wrote:

>>

>> Dear Bhaskarji,

>>

>> I have not said anything abt sri.sanjay rathji and it is just

>> prafulla has directed me to read his notes and conveyed his

> personal

>> opinion but you addressing me specially in this context makes me

>> little nervous as i am a student of SJC and i dont want my guruji's

>> to see me in bad light...

>>

>> second abt astrological predictions, i am of the opinion it is all

>> personal based on planetary movements of individual astrologers as

>> well as seekers at the time of analysis. I remember reading

> sometime

>> back that there is some verse in brihat jataka or samhita saying

>> only when the good time comes, the seeker will get good astrologer.

>>

>> I dont like comparing today's people with stalwarts etc as i feel

> it

>> is wrong as every individual is unique and different in their own

>> way and in fact i firmly believe sri.sanjay rathji and narasimhaji

>> and host of others are truly a step ahead in disseminating their

>> knowledge freely through all forms of media ..where will you get

>> such a nice software like jhora with full features freely ...in

> fact

>> in this competitive world where your predictions are being

>> questioned by all and sundries, it is really commendable job they

>> are doing and i bow to these greats in reverence...

>>

>> I had experience of consulting more than 15 years and i have seen

>> quite a precision predictions coming true which are done by my

> blind

>> astrologer sitting in remote part of this country and also some of

>> the ashtamangala prasna gone wrong inspite of the greatness of the

>> person concerned...what it conveys to me is as long as you are

>> humble and devote this vidya to goddess saraswathi or any form of

>> brain which controls your analysis part, you will come good

>> otherwise time will tell ...

>>

>> hope you see this mail in right spirit....no offence intended..

>>

>> regards

>> sriganeshh

>>

>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Sri Ganesh,

>>>

>>> Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

>>> orator.

>>> He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on astrology

>> and

>>> planets etc.

>>> But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

>>> I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

>>> KrishnaMurthiji.

>>> I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

>>> am not convinced.

>>>

>>> regards,

>>> Bhaskar.

>>>

>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Sriganeshh

>>>>

>>>> Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

>>> article on predicting on marriage - including type of marriages.

>> (I

>>> think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

>>> explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

>>> astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

>>> current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

>>> knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too

> clear

>> as

>>> well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

>> rationale

>>> of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

>>> stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

>>>>

>>>> Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

>>> elaboratedly.

>>>>

>>>> Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

>> tuned

>>> the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings

> for

>>> antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study to

>>> read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

>> relationships,

>>> marriage breakups etc.

>>>>

>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>

>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

>> To

>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

>> disparity

>>> of life around you.

>>>>

>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

>> never,

>>> to forget.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> sriganeshh@

>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

>>>>>

>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Prashantji,

>>>>>

>>>>> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

>> still

>>>>> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

>> why

>>> the

>>>>> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

>>> thread

>>>>> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

>>> comments

>>>>>

>>>>> sriganeshh

>>>>>

>>>>> , Prashant Kumar G B

>>>>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Prafulla

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

>>>>>> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

>> get a

>>>>> right chart and even marry.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

>> rectify

>>>>> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was

> a

>>>>> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

>> fate

>>>>> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

>> seen

>>>>> these happen.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

>>>>> endangered species.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>>>>> wrote: Dear

>>> Bhaskar

>>>>> ji

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

>> have

>>>>> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

>> test

>>>>> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

>> someone,

>>>>> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

>> These

>>>>> are my observations!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>

>>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>> insignificance.

>>>>> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

>>>>> disparity of life around you.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>> complicate

>>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

>> to

>>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

>>> never,

>>>>> to forget.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Dear Prafullaji,

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

>>>>>> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

>>>>>> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

>>>>>> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

>>>>>> > comment,

>>>>>> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

>>>>>> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko.

> Your

>>> life

>>>>> will

>>>>>> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

>> Aap

>>>>> doosri

>>>>>> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

>> astrologers

>>>>>> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been

> married

>> to

>>> a

>>>>>> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

>>>>>> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would

> have

>>> found

>>>>>> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the

> whole

>>>>> picture

>>>>>> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

>>>>>> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

>>>>>> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

>> qualities

>>>>>> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

>>>>>> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

>>>>>> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

>>>>> question.

>>>>>> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

>>>>> would have

>>>>>> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

>>> authoratarian.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

>>>>>> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

>>> property,

>>>>>> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord

> as

>> the

>>>>>> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated

>> as

>>>>>> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

>>>>>> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

>>>>>> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

>>>>>> > of the query in question.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

>>>>> without any

>>>>>> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

>> cause

>>>>>> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

>> nutshell

>>> is

>>>>>> > different than what looks apparently.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of

> the

>>>>> wall ? How

>>>>>> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

>> because of

>>>>> destiny

>>>>>> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

>>>>> discuss

>>>>>> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > regards,

>>>>>> > Bhaskar.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > , Prafulla Gang

>>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

>> made a

>>>>> very

>>>>>> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with

> relevance

>> of

>>>>>> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

>> we

>>> are

>>>>> here

>>>>>> > on the forum.

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

>> measure !!

>>>>> Please

>>>>>> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

>>>>> compatibility

>>>>>> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

>>> additional

>>>>>> > question - has it worked?

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

>> of

>>>>> personal

>>>>>> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny

> issues

>>>>> etc). Do

>>>>>> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

>> tests?

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

>> have

>>>>>> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

>> proven!!!

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>>>>> insignificance. To

>>>>>> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

>> vulgar

>>>>> disparity

>>>>>> > of life around you.

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>>> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>>> complicate

>>>>>> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

>> all,

>>> to

>>>>>> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

>> never,

>>>>> never,

>>>>>> > to forget.

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

>>>>>> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

>>>>>> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

>> to

>>> the

>>>>>> > issue.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

>> compatibility

>>>>> tests

>>>>>> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

>> astrologers

>>>>>> > capability

>>>>>> >>> of doing a good job ?

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

>>> compatibility

>>>>>> > tests

>>>>>> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

>>>>>> > incapability

>>>>>> >>> to do a good job ?

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the

> above

>> in

>>>>>> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

>>>>>> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

>> the

>>>>> right

>>>>>> >>> subject for us to persue.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> Now,

>>>>>> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is

> irreperable

>> and

>>>>> the

>>>>>> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli,

> or

>>>>> will not

>>>>>> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

>> even

>>>>>> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer,

> or

>>>>> even if

>>>>>> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

>> mood

>>>>> and

>>>>>> > make

>>>>>> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made

>> by

>>>>>> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

>>>>>> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same

> time

>>>>>> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

>>>>>> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

>> my

>>> Jup

>>>>>> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

>>>>> quarter

>>>>>> >>> whisky daily ?

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if

> I

>> sit

>>>>> at

>>>>>> > home

>>>>>> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

>>>>> dasha and

>>>>>> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be

> making

>> hay

>>>>> while

>>>>>> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

>> person

>>>>> to

>>>>>> > give

>>>>>> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

>>>>>> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

>>>>>> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

>> watching

>>> a

>>>>> chart

>>>>>> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

>>>>> deliverance

>>>>>> >>> of actions on part of the native.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> regards,

>>>>>> >>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>> , Prafulla Gang

>>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>>> >>> wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define

> as

>> to

>>>>> why did

>>>>>> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

>> disaster

>>>>> or

>>>>>> > could

>>>>>> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

>>>>> through

>>>>>> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

>>>>> eagerly

>>>>>> >>> listening.

>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>>>>> insignificance. To

>>>>>> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

>> vulgar

>>>>>> > disparity

>>>>>> >>> of life around you.

>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>>> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>>> complicate

>>>>>> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power.

> Above

>>> all,

>>>>> to

>>>>>> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

>>> never,

>>>>>> > never,

>>>>>> >>> to forget.

>>>>>> >>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

>>> advisors

>>>>>> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

>>>>> understand the

>>>>>> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and

> those

>> who

>>>>> have

>>>>>> > not

>>>>>> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their

> charts

>>> have

>>>>> not

>>>>>> >>> been

>>>>>> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is

> another

>> way

>>>>> to

>>>>>> > save

>>>>>> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

>> only,so

>>>>> when can

>>>>>> >>> be

>>>>>> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all

> cases.

>>> Just

>>>>> Guna,

>>>>>> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

>> help

>>> in

>>>>>> >>> solitary,

>>>>>> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

>> whether

>>>>> the boy

>>>>>> >>> (If

>>>>>> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming

> in

>>> life

>>>>> after

>>>>>> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

>>>>> sustaining

>>>>>> > the

>>>>>> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart

> from

>>>>> other

>>>>>> >>> ones ,

>>>>>> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>> --- In

>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>>>>>> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

>>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>> regards,

>>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla

>> Gang

>>>>>> > <jyotish@>

>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

>>>>>> > professional

>>>>>> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

>>>>>> >>> compatibility

>>>>>> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

>> harm

>>> it;

>>>>> for

>>>>>> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

>>>>> house, 7th

>>>>>> >>>>> from

>>>>>> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

>> venus

>>>>> for

>>>>>> > man

>>>>>> >>>>> and

>>>>>> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

>>>>> wicked

>>>>>> >>> league

>>>>>> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

>>>>> woman, in

>>>>>> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is

> a

>>>>> great

>>>>>> >>> thing,

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

>> is

>>>>> waiting

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day

> waiting

>> for

>>>>> her

>>>>>> > man,

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

>> even

>>>>> if the

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

>> praise

>>>>> for her

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

>>>>> considered a

>>>>>> >>>>> real

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though

> he

>> may

>>>>> not

>>>>>> > have

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

>> cannot.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

>>>>> latter

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

>>>>> bataiye.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

>> Gang

>>>>>> >>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

>> wives, be

>>>>> happy

>>>>>> >>>>> with

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wife.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman,

> in

>> a

>>>>> wicked

>>>>>> >>>>> league

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

>> young

>>>>> woman,

>>>>>> > in

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004"

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

>> will

>>> find

>>>>>> >>>>>> difference

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

>>>>> house.

>>>>>> >>>>> Computer

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

>>> different

>>>>>> > time,

>>>>>> >>>>>> Your

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your

> wrist

>>>>> watch

>>>>>> > will

>>>>>> >>>>>> show

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that

> for

>>> every

>>>>>> > birth

>>>>>> >>>>> the

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

>>>>> required

>>>>>> > while

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

>> time is

>>>>> going

>>>>>> > to

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> create

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

>> predictions

>>>>> given

>>>>>> > to

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> client

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

>>> science

>>>>>> > itself.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

>> birth

>>>>> time

>>>>>> > and

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

>> whichever

>>>>> Bhava

>>>>>> >>>>>> question

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

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>> Charged

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>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged.

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August 17, 2006

Dear Sriganeshh,

Very well said.

regards / Prafulla Gang

To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you.

To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget.

>

> sriganeshh

> Thu, 17 Aug 2006 05:01:22 -0000

>

> Re: marriage..current perspective

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I have not said anything abt sri.sanjay rathji and it is just

> prafulla has directed me to read his notes and conveyed his personal

> opinion but you addressing me specially in this context makes me

> little nervous as i am a student of SJC and i dont want my guruji's

> to see me in bad light...

>

> second abt astrological predictions, i am of the opinion it is all

> personal based on planetary movements of individual astrologers as

> well as seekers at the time of analysis. I remember reading sometime

> back that there is some verse in brihat jataka or samhita saying

> only when the good time comes, the seeker will get good astrologer.

>

> I dont like comparing today's people with stalwarts etc as i feel it

> is wrong as every individual is unique and different in their own

> way and in fact i firmly believe sri.sanjay rathji and narasimhaji

> and host of others are truly a step ahead in disseminating their

> knowledge freely through all forms of media ..where will you get

> such a nice software like jhora with full features freely ...in fact

> in this competitive world where your predictions are being

> questioned by all and sundries, it is really commendable job they

> are doing and i bow to these greats in reverence...

>

> I had experience of consulting more than 15 years and i have seen

> quite a precision predictions coming true which are done by my blind

> astrologer sitting in remote part of this country and also some of

> the ashtamangala prasna gone wrong inspite of the greatness of the

> person concerned...what it conveys to me is as long as you are

> humble and devote this vidya to goddess saraswathi or any form of

> brain which controls your analysis part, you will come good

> otherwise time will tell ...

>

> hope you see this mail in right spirit....no offence intended..

>

> regards

> sriganeshh

>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>>

>> Dear Sri Ganesh,

>>

>> Sanjay rathji ki main ijjat bahut karta hoon. He is a great

>> orator.

>> He can superbly give lectures on philosphical issues on astrology

> and

>> planets etc.

>> But predictive powers, I am not yet convinced,

>> I cannot put him in league of Shri Late BV Raman or Shri

>> KrishnaMurthiji.

>> I cannot put even Shri KN rao in that league uptil now I

>> am not convinced.

>>

>> regards,

>> Bhaskar.

>>

>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Sriganeshh

>>>

>>> Very valid point. BTW, Dear Sanjay Rath ji has very elaborated

>> article on predicting on marriage - including type of marriages.

> (I

>> think posted in file section of Sohamsa forum). As usual, he has

>> explained it very well and I must admit, he is one of the finest

>> astrologer (along with Shri VK Choudhry, Dear Narasimha etc) of

>> current generation- I have interacted so far. His clarity and

>> knowledgebase is just wonderful. and his predictions are too clear

> as

>> well. Best part about his method is that - he explains the

> rationale

>> of his reading. There are very few who can really climb to his

>> stature (in league of BV Raman, KN Rao, MC Jain etc).

>>>

>>> Jaimini has indeed explored marriage related issues quite

>> elaboratedly.

>>>

>>> Recently, I read note of Pratap ji as well, who has well fine

> tuned

>> the Mahadasha for mariage timing. Let us wait for his findings for

>> antardasha etc as well. It will really be an interesting study to

>> read, if he can extend his findings for non marriage

> relationships,

>> marriage breakups etc.

>>>

>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>

>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

> To

>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity

>> of life around you.

>>>

>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> never,

>> to forget.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> sriganeshh@

>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:52:05 -0000

>>>>

>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

>>>>

>>>> Dear Prashantji,

>>>>

>>>> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage

> still

>>>> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking

> why

>> the

>>>> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier

>> thread

>>>> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your

>> comments

>>>>

>>>> sriganeshh

>>>>

>>>> , Prashant Kumar G B

>>>> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Prafulla

>>>>>

>>>>> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

>>>>> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will

> get a

>>>> right chart and even marry.

>>>>>

>>>>> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will

> rectify

>>>> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

>>>> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her

> fate

>>>> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've

> seen

>>>> these happen.

>>>>>

>>>>> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

>>>> endangered species.

>>>>>

>>>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

>>>> wrote: Dear

>> Bhaskar

>>>> ji

>>>>>

>>>>> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to

> have

>>>> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility

> test

>>>> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry

> someone,

>>>> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

>>>>>

>>>>> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments.

> These

>>>> are my observations!!

>>>>>

>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>

>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance.

>>>> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

>>>> disparity of life around you.

>>>>>

>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>> complicate

>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

> to

>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

>> never,

>>>> to forget.

>>>>>

>>>>> >

>>>>> > bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Dear Prafullaji,

>>>>> >

>>>>> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

>>>>> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

>>>>> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

>>>>> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

>>>>> > comment,

>>>>> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

>>>>> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your

>> life

>>>> will

>>>>> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life.

> Aap

>>>> doosri

>>>>> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most

> astrologers

>>>>> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married

> to

>> a

>>>>> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

>>>>> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have

>> found

>>>>> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

>>>> picture

>>>>> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

>>>>> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

>>>>> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian

> qualities

>>>>> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

>>>>> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

>>>>> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

>>>> question.

>>>>> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

>>>> would have

>>>>> > been too small, the girl would have been totally

>> authoratarian.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

>>>>> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children,

>> property,

>>>>> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as

> the

>>>>> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated

> as

>>>>> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

>>>>> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

>>>>> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

>>>>> > of the query in question.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

>>>> without any

>>>>> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the

> cause

>>>>> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a

> nutshell

>> is

>>>>> > different than what looks apparently.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

>>>> wall ? How

>>>>> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working

> because of

>>>> destiny

>>>>> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

>>>> discuss

>>>>> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > regards,

>>>>> > Bhaskar.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > , Prafulla Gang

>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I

> made a

>>>> very

>>>>> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance

> of

>>>>> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why

> we

>> are

>>>> here

>>>>> > on the forum.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial

> measure !!

>>>> Please

>>>>> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

>>>> compatibility

>>>>> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my

>> additional

>>>>> > question - has it worked?

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms

> of

>>>> personal

>>>>> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

>>>> etc). Do

>>>>> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility

> tests?

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages

> have

>>>>> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be

> proven!!!

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>>>> insignificance. To

>>>>> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> vulgar

>>>> disparity

>>>>> > of life around you.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>> complicate

>>>>> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

> all,

>> to

>>>>> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

> never,

>>>> never,

>>>>> > to forget.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

>>>>> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

>>>>> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach

> to

>> the

>>>>> > issue.

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having

> compatibility

>>>> tests

>>>>> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to

> astrologers

>>>>> > capability

>>>>> >>> of doing a good job ?

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having

>> compatibility

>>>>> > tests

>>>>> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

>>>>> > incapability

>>>>> >>> to do a good job ?

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above

> in

>>>>> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

>>>>> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not

> the

>>>> right

>>>>> >>> subject for us to persue.

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> Now,

>>>>> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable

> and

>>>> the

>>>>> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

>>>> will not

>>>>> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or

> even

>>>>> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

>>>> even if

>>>>> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper

> mood

>>>> and

>>>>> > make

>>>>> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made

> by

>>>>> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

>>>>> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

>>>>> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

>>>>> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if

> my

>> Jup

>>>>> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

>>>> quarter

>>>>> >>> whisky daily ?

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I

> sit

>>>> at

>>>>> > home

>>>>> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

>>>> dasha and

>>>>> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making

> hay

>>>> while

>>>>> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the

> person

>>>> to

>>>>> > give

>>>>> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

>>>>> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

>>>>> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of

> watching

>> a

>>>> chart

>>>>> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

>>>> deliverance

>>>>> >>> of actions on part of the native.

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> regards,

>>>>> >>> Bhaskar.

>>>>> >>>

>>>>> >>> , Prafulla Gang

>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>> >>> wrote:

>>>>> >>>>

>>>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as

> to

>>>> why did

>>>>> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the

> disaster

>>>> or

>>>>> > could

>>>>> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

>>>> through

>>>>> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

>>>> eagerly

>>>>> >>> listening.

>>>>> >>>>

>>>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>> >>>>

>>>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

>>>> insignificance. To

>>>>> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the

> vulgar

>>>>> > disparity

>>>>> >>> of life around you.

>>>>> >>>>

>>>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

>>>>> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

>>>> complicate

>>>>> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above

>> all,

>>>> to

>>>>> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And

>> never,

>>>>> > never,

>>>>> >>> to forget.

>>>>> >>>>

>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many

>> advisors

>>>>> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

>>>> understand the

>>>>> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those

> who

>>>> have

>>>>> > not

>>>>> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts

>> have

>>>> not

>>>>> >>> been

>>>>> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another

> way

>>>> to

>>>>> > save

>>>>> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that

> only,so

>>>> when can

>>>>> >>> be

>>>>> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases.

>> Just

>>>> Guna,

>>>>> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to

> help

>> in

>>>>> >>> solitary,

>>>>> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check

> whether

>>>> the boy

>>>>> >>> (If

>>>>> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in

>> life

>>>> after

>>>>> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

>>>> sustaining

>>>>> > the

>>>>> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

>>>> other

>>>>> >>> ones ,

>>>>> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>> >>>>> --- In

>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>>>>> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>> regards,

>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>> >>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

>>>>> > <jyotish@>

>>>>> >>>>>> wrote:

>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

>>>>> > professional

>>>>> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

>>>>> >>> compatibility

>>>>> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not

> harm

>> it;

>>>> for

>>>>> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

>>>> house, 7th

>>>>> >>>>> from

>>>>> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL;

> venus

>>>> for

>>>>> > man

>>>>> >>>>> and

>>>>> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

>>>> wicked

>>>>> >>> league

>>>>> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

>>>> woman, in

>>>>> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

>>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

>>>> great

>>>>> >>> thing,

>>>>> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who

> is

>>>> waiting

>>>>> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting

> for

>>>> her

>>>>> > man,

>>>>> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word,

> even

>>>> if the

>>>>> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

>>>>> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and

> praise

>>>> for her

>>>>> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

>>>> considered a

>>>>> >>>>> real

>>>>> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he

> may

>>>> not

>>>>> > have

>>>>> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives

> cannot.

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

>>>> latter

>>>>> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

>>>> bataiye.

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla

> Gang

>>>>> >>>>> <jyotish@>

>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have

> wives, be

>>>> happy

>>>>> >>>>> with

>>>>> >>>>>>>> wife.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in

> a

>>>> wicked

>>>>> >>>>> league

>>>>> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive

> young

>>>> woman,

>>>>> > in

>>>>> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>> , "jaibabedi2004"

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You

> will

>> find

>>>>> >>>>>> difference

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

>>>> house.

>>>>> >>>>> Computer

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show

>> different

>>>>> > time,

>>>>> >>>>>> Your

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

>>>> watch

>>>>> > will

>>>>> >>>>>> show

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for

>> every

>>>>> > birth

>>>>> >>>>> the

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> time

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

>>>> required

>>>>> > while

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth

> time is

>>>> going

>>>>> > to

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> create

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and

> predictions

>>>> given

>>>>> > to

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> client

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the

>> science

>>>>> > itself.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the

> birth

>>>> time

>>>>> > and

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress

> whichever

>>>> Bhava

>>>>> >>>>>> question

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

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>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or

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>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged.

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