BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p.

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Dear Prashantji,

 

just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage still

valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking why the

failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier thread

of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your comments

 

sriganeshh

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Prafulla

>

> I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will get a

right chart and even marry.

>

> if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will rectify

it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her fate

to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've seen

these happen.

>

> AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

endangered species.

>

>

>

>

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote: Dear Bhaskar

ji

>

> Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to have

a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test

(any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone,

with whom his chart compatibility fails.

>

> My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments. These

are my observations!!

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

disparity of life around you.

>

> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never,

to forget.

>

> >

> > bhaskar_jyotish

> > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> >

> > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >

> >

> > Dear Prafullaji,

> >

> > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > comment,

> > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life

will

> > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap

doosri

> > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers

> > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a

> > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found

> > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

picture

> > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities

> > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

question.

> > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

would have

> > been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian.

> >

> > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property,

> > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the

> > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as

> > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> > of the query in question.

> >

> > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

without any

> > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause

> > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is

> > different than what looks apparently.

> >

> > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

wall ? How

> > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of

destiny

> > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> >

> > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> >

> > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

discuss

> > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >>

> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a

very

> > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of

> > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are

here

> > on the forum.

> >>

> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !!

Please

> > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

compatibility

> > test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional

> > question - has it worked?

> >>

> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of

personal

> > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

etc). Do

> > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests?

> >>

> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have

> > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!!

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

insignificance. To

> > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

disparity

> > of life around you.

> >>

> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

complicate

> > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

never,

> > to forget.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>

> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the

> > issue.

> >>>

> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility

tests

> >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers

> > capability

> >>> of doing a good job ?

> >>>

> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility

> > tests

> >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> > incapability

> >>> to do a good job ?

> >>>

> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in

> >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the

right

> >>> subject for us to persue.

> >>>

> >>> Now,

> >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and

the

> >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

will not

> >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even

> >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

even if

> >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood

and

> > make

> >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> >>>

> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by

> >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

> >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup

> >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

quarter

> >>> whisky daily ?

> >>>

> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit

at

> > home

> >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

dasha and

> >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay

while

> >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> >>>

> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person

to

> > give

> >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a

chart

> >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

deliverance

> >>> of actions on part of the native.

> >>>

> >>> regards,

> >>> Bhaskar.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to

why did

> >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster

or

> > could

> >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

through

> >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

eagerly

> >>> listening.

> >>>>

> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>

> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

insignificance. To

> >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > disparity

> >>> of life around you.

> >>>>

> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

complicate

> >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

to

> >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > never,

> >>> to forget.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors

> >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

understand the

> >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who

have

> > not

> >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have

not

> >>> been

> >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way

to

> > save

> >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so

when can

> >>> be

> >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just

Guna,

> >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in

> >>> solitary,

> >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether

the boy

> >>> (If

> >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life

after

> >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

sustaining

> > the

> >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

other

> >>> ones ,

> >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> regards,

> >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> >>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> > professional

> >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> >>> compatibility

> >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it;

for

> >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

house, 7th

> >>>>> from

> >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus

for

> > man

> >>>>> and

> >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

wicked

> >>> league

> >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

woman, in

> >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

great

> >>> thing,

> >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is

waiting

> >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for

her

> > man,

> >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even

if the

> >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise

for her

> >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

considered a

> >>>>> real

> >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may

not

> > have

> >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot.

> >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

latter

> >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

bataiye.

> >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> regards,

> >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> >>>>> <jyotish@>

> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be

happy

> >>>>> with

> >>>>>>>> wife.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

wicked

> >>>>> league

> >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

woman,

> > in

> >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

, "jaibabedi2004"

> >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

, "bhaskar_jyotish"

> >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find

> >>>>>> difference

> >>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

house.

> >>>>> Computer

> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different

> > time,

> >>>>>> Your

> >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

watch

> > will

> >>>>>> show

> >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every

> > birth

> >>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>> time

> >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

required

> > while

> >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is

going

> > to

> >>>>>>>>>> create

> >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions

given

> > to

> >>>>>>>>>> client

> >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science

> > itself.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth

time

> > and

> >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever

Bhava

> >>>>>> question

> >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Kumar ji

 

Yes..modern yuga and profession have their own challenges, for people engaged in those professions.

 

At micro level - UL and 2nd from UL will hint at marriage related issues; and A7 for any other associations. As per hinduism (contrary to many other religious beliefs), marriage is not a contract. The prevailing practices of divorces etc have also complicated the compatibility related issues.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you.

 

To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget.

 

 

>

> gbp_kumar

> Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:51:06 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matching 16/8 p. 17/8 p2

>

> Hanesh,

>

> If u r referring to my redifined dushhana, malefics on the 25/2 post,

> and now mariage also u are expecting a such a view if any?

>

> well on marriage most of the compatility rules are set for a dharmic

> society and a Dharmapatni in absence of Dharma it is more a contract as

> said. the 8th house comes in.

> where Dharma counts then many thigns can be balanced as per destiny.

> today by work atmosphere we have man, women work long hrs share more of

> their wake state with them than their married partners and quite often

> we have seen them leading to marriages, or affairs.

>

> BUT now u have new trend parallel marriages both spouses who are

> married may still have a relationship both PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL,

> SPIRITUAL With their collegues, sub-ordinates and the couples adjusting

> to such reality some break up not adjusting to it. I have counselled

> many of them so trust me, that too for so called conservative Chennai

> where I Live apart for other cities an dparts of the world.

>

> THIS IS FROM MANY CASES WE SEE now a days esp Medical field, Banks used

> to be so for 2-3 decades ago, IT sector., service sector and ITES SECTOR

> are in this s tream.

>

> I may hear a lot of protests behing this, but THIS IS A FACT of life

> today. only one I can see for support here is Prafulla being in such a

> sector.

> I only mean he would have seen such cases not such a case himself. and

> anyone who have seen may support this fact I don't approve of this but

> we r mere witness to it. The family as a instutuon is almost on the

> deciline if not decay.

> When there is happiness in the family there is happiness inthe society

> a happy society make a happy village, town, city nation world Plato said

> but the reverse is happening now.

>

> I quotd plate as many like western implants, but many of our Rishis,

> thinkers have said this too,

>

>

> sriganeshh <sriganeshh > wrote:

> Dear Prashantji,

>

> just for your thought only...is old definition of marriage still

> valid in the present world....? giving you lead for thinking why the

> failures takes place...i am just taking you back to earlier thread

> of assigning new meanings to concepts...waiting to hear your comments

>

> sriganeshh

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar wrote:

> >

> > Prafulla

> >

> > I think the i can cover it in 2 ways

> > if the person is destined to get a good marriage he will get a

> right chart and even marry.

> >

> > if by mistake it is a wrong one a good astrologer will rectify

> it and the girl/boys side may even acknoweledge that is was a

> copying or typing mistake etc and this will also be his/her fate

> to see and get a good astrolgoers advice successfully, I've seen

> these happen.

> >

> > AND LVIE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER this is sure a minority or an

> endangered species.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote: Dear Bhaskar

> ji

> >

> > Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to have

> a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test

> (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone,

> with whom his chart compatibility fails.

> >

> > My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments. These

> are my observations!!

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance.

> To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity of life around you.

> >

> > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate

> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never,

> to forget.

> >

> > >

> > > bhaskar_jyotish

> > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Prafullaji,

> > >

> > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ?

> > > It also requires proper competency on our part.

> > > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage.

> > > I will take it to a astrologer who will first

> > > comment,

> > > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai

> > > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life

> will

> > > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap

> doosri

> > > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers

> > > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a

> > > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ?

> > > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found

> > > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole

> picture

> > > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord

> > > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this

> > > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities

> > > which would give some pacification and flexibility

> > > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits ,

> > > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in

> question.

> > > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations

> would have

> > > been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian.

> > >

> > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc.

> > > Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property,

> > > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the

> > > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as

> > > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes

> > > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same

> > > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results

> > > of the query in question.

> > >

> > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches

> without any

> > > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause

> > > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is

> > > different than what looks apparently.

> > >

> > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the

> wall ? How

> > > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of

> destiny

> > > and not because they have done compatibility tests ?

> > >

> > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ?

> > >

> > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai

> discuss

> > > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >>

> > >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a

> very

> > > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of

> > > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are

> here

> > > on the forum.

> > >>

> > >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !!

> Please

> > > check the statistics of the married couple - who have

> compatibility

> > > test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional

> > > question - has it worked?

> > >>

> > >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of

> personal

> > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues

> etc). Do

> > > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests?

> > >>

> > >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have

> > > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!!

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance. To

> > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> disparity

> > > of life around you.

> > >>

> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

> > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to

> > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> never,

> > > to forget.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>

> > >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts.

> > >>> You also like to argue, and I like that.

> > >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the

> > > issue.

> > >>>

> > >>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility

> tests

> > >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers

> > > capability

> > >>> of doing a good job ?

> > >>>

> > >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility

> > > tests

> > >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers

> > > incapability

> > >>> to do a good job ?

> > >>>

> > >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in

> > >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or

> > >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the

> right

> > >>> subject for us to persue.

> > >>>

> > >>> Now,

> > >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and

> the

> > >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or

> will not

> > >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even

> > >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or

> even if

> > >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood

> and

> > > make

> > >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc..

> > >>>

> > >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by

> > >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I

> > >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time

> > >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to

> > >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup

> > >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one

> quarter

> > >>> whisky daily ?

> > >>>

> > >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit

> at

> > > home

> > >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that

> dasha and

> > >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay

> while

> > >>> Sun shines which I am not.

> > >>>

> > >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person

> to

> > > give

> > >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ?

> > >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ?

> > >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a

> chart

> > >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in

> deliverance

> > >>> of actions on part of the native.

> > >>>

> > >>> regards,

> > >>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to

> why did

> > >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster

> or

> > > could

> > >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage

> through

> > >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am

> eagerly

> > >>> listening.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>

> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own

> insignificance. To

> > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar

> > > disparity

> > >>> of life around you.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty

> > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or

> complicate

> > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all,

> to

> > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never,

> > > never,

> > >>> to forget.

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors

> > >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to

> understand the

> > >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who

> have

> > > not

> > >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have

> not

> > >>> been

> > >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way

> to

> > > save

> > >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so

> when can

> > >>> be

> > >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just

> Guna,

> > >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in

> > >>> solitary,

> > >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether

> the boy

> > >>> (If

> > >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life

> after

> > >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of

> sustaining

> > > the

> > >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from

> other

> > >>> ones ,

> > >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> VERY TRUE.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> > > <jyotish@>

> > >>>>>> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for

> > > professional

> > >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart

> > >>> compatibility

> > >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it;

> for

> > >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd

> house, 7th

> > >>>>> from

> > >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus

> for

> > > man

> > >>>>> and

> > >>>>>> mars for female nativity.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> wicked

> > >>> league

> > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> woman, in

> > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a

> great

> > >>> thing,

> > >>>>>>>> forget wives.

> > >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is

> waiting

> > >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for

> her

> > > man,

> > >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even

> if the

> > >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50-

> > >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise

> for her

> > >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be

> considered a

> > >>>>> real

> > >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may

> not

> > > have

> > >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot.

> > >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke

> latter

> > >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to

> bataiye.

> > >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>> <jyotish@>

> > >>>>>>>> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be

> happy

> > >>>>> with

> > >>>>>>>> wife.

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a

> wicked

> > >>>>> league

> > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young

> woman,

> > > in

> > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil.

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ?

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> YEAH.

> > >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required.

> > >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......?

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>> --- In

> , "jaibabedi2004"

> > >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>> --- In

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find

> > >>>>>> difference

> > >>>>>>>>>> of

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own

> house.

> > >>>>> Computer

> > >>>>>>>>>>> will

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different

> > > time,

> > >>>>>> Your

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist

> watch

> > > will

> > >>>>>> show

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every

> > > birth

> > >>>>> the

> > >>>>>>>>>>> time

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?"

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is

> required

> > > while

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is

> going

> > > to

> > >>>>>>>>>> create

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions

> given

> > > to

> > >>>>>>>>>> client

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match,

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science

> > > itself.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth

> time

> > > and

> > >>>>>>>>>> confirm

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever

> Bhava

> > >>>>>> question

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> regards,

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any

> > >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged.

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>

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