Classic Case of Twins with KP System (Males)

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Dear All,

 

Hundreds of you had mailed to be personally, than in the group,

asking about the ways for to be calculated.

 

Question I posted yesterday.

 

How would you explain about two people born on the same time

(recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-

poor,Healthy-weak etc.

 

The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having

thesame exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have

anywealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill.

DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore.

 

(1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two.

(2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a

decentsalary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991),

married -love (21-1-1990) with a kid then.

 

Answer... in my way.

 

I am not also trying to prove one system of analysis is better than

other. I am also learning here (even after 6300 charts in 17+

years). I would say even the first time recorded is not that

accurate by few seconds.

 

I am not analysing the entire chart, but giving the pointers of the

houses concerned as given.

 

What has heppened in life (paterns), is shown above with that extra

20 secs.

 

Here is small explanation with KP system, with the Cuspal Sub Lord

theory. (I am not explaining on Significators and Ruling Planets

here).

 

(1) 7.30 AM - time corrected (shows about his health and matches

with education)

 

Asc with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ve, 3rd, Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju, 7th

Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ke, 11th Sa/Ju and Other RPs Su-Su-Sa,

Mo-Mo-Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

 

Ra with Ve late marrage for (2,7,11) also one of the cause for low

education (3,8,5).

 

(2) 7.30.20 AM - Doctor/Nurse has confirmed, it took about 15 to 20

seconds, to move the second baby out.

 

ASC with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ke, 3rd Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju , 7th

Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ve, 11th Sa/Ju Other RPs Su-Su-Sa, Mo-Mo-

Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

 

Now what is different from above?

 

Only CSL of Ke instead of Ve changes in 2 and 10.

That was enough for change in his fate.

 

7th shows about marrage, confirmed as love for (2, 11) and marriage

date matched.

Also his 8, 12, 2 and 7 has shown serious health issues on Sun

Transit time during May 1991 (Kethu effect).

Also Su and Ve helped in profession (10).

 

Rgds

Vijay

[Guest guest]

Thanks Vijay for the detailed write up.....I do appreciate and acknowledge

that KP system gives better explanation to case of "Twins" analysis.

Vimshottari also gives results in such cases, but not much study has been

done atleast to my knowledge in terms of demonstrative examples. In

Vimshottari we use higher levels of Divisional charts for analysis in such

cases of identical birth times..., can be area of further research study.

 

Can I take your permission to use the birth data given by for my own

research analysis ?? Should you have any other data, kindly share with

Offline/ privately.

 

with regards,

sreeram srinivas

sreeram64 (AT) satyam (DOT) net.in

 

_____

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] On Behalf Of vinivj

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:02 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Classic Case of Twins with KP System (Males)

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

Hundreds of you had mailed to be personally, than in the group,

asking about the ways for to be calculated.

 

Question I posted yesterday.

 

How would you explain about two people born on the same time

(recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-

poor,Healthy-weak etc.

 

The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having

thesame exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have

anywealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill.

DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore.

 

(1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two.

(2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a

decentsalary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991),

married -love (21-1-1990) with a kid then.

 

Answer... in my way.

 

I am not also trying to prove one system of analysis is better than

other. I am also learning here (even after 6300 charts in 17+

years). I would say even the first time recorded is not that

accurate by few seconds.

 

I am not analysing the entire chart, but giving the pointers of the

houses concerned as given.

 

What has heppened in life (paterns), is shown above with that extra

20 secs.

 

Here is small explanation with KP system, with the Cuspal Sub Lord

theory. (I am not explaining on Significators and Ruling Planets

here).

 

(1) 7.30 AM - time corrected (shows about his health and matches

with education)

 

Asc with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ve, 3rd, Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju, 7th

Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ke, 11th Sa/Ju and Other RPs Su-Su-Sa,

Mo-Mo-Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

 

Ra with Ve late marrage for (2,7,11) also one of the cause for low

education (3,8,5).

 

(2) 7.30.20 AM - Doctor/Nurse has confirmed, it took about 15 to 20

seconds, to move the second baby out.

 

ASC with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ke, 3rd Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju , 7th

Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ve, 11th Sa/Ju Other RPs Su-Su-Sa, Mo-Mo-

Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

 

Now what is different from above?

 

Only CSL of Ke instead of Ve changes in 2 and 10.

That was enough for change in his fate.

 

7th shows about marrage, confirmed as love for (2, 11) and marriage

date matched.

Also his 8, 12, 2 and 7 has shown serious health issues on Sun

Transit time during May 1991 (Kethu effect).

Also Su and Ve helped in profession (10).

 

Rgds

Vijay

 

 

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Vijay,

 

Please confirm the data,

you said " DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore."

and you have used "1) 7.30 AM " did you mean to say 7.5AM to mean 7:30 AM?.

 

Thank you

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

On 8/15/06, vinivj <vinivj > wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Hundreds of you had mailed to be personally, than in the group,

> asking about the ways for to be calculated.

>

> Question I posted yesterday.

>

> How would you explain about two people born on the same time

> (recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-

> poor,Healthy-weak etc.

>

> The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having

> thesame exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have

> anywealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill.

> DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore.

>

> (1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two.

> (2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a

> decentsalary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991),

> married -love (21-1-1990) with a kid then.

>

> Answer... in my way.

>

> I am not also trying to prove one system of analysis is better than

> other. I am also learning here (even after 6300 charts in 17+

> years). I would say even the first time recorded is not that

> accurate by few seconds.

>

> I am not analysing the entire chart, but giving the pointers of the

> houses concerned as given.

>

> What has heppened in life (paterns), is shown above with that extra

> 20 secs.

>

> Here is small explanation with KP system, with the Cuspal Sub Lord

> theory. (I am not explaining on Significators and Ruling Planets

> here).

>

> (1) 7.30 AM - time corrected (shows about his health and matches

> with education)

>

> Asc with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ve, 3rd, Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju, 7th

> Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ke, 11th Sa/Ju and Other RPs Su-Su-Sa,

> Mo-Mo-Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

>

> Ra with Ve late marrage for (2,7,11) also one of the cause for low

> education (3,8,5).

>

> (2) 7.30.20 AM - Doctor/Nurse has confirmed, it took about 15 to 20

> seconds, to move the second baby out.

>

> ASC with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ke, 3rd Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju , 7th

> Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ve, 11th Sa/Ju Other RPs Su-Su-Sa, Mo-Mo-

> Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

>

> Now what is different from above?

>

> Only CSL of Ke instead of Ve changes in 2 and 10.

> That was enough for change in his fate.

>

> 7th shows about marrage, confirmed as love for (2, 11) and marriage

> date matched.

> Also his 8, 12, 2 and 7 has shown serious health issues on Sun

> Transit time during May 1991 (Kethu effect).

> Also Su and Ve helped in profession (10).

>

> Rgds

> Vijay

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

I have used the time correction technique as per KP, to match the

education and health (some minimum events). So, backwards of 20

minutes. I did tell in the post, "time corrected (shows about his

health and matches with education)".

 

There is also another case with KP, where the recorded birth time

was, 6.18AM (Male, 27-2-1974, at 77E45, 11N47) which was corrected

to 6.40.20 AM, to match his education X fail, marriage date 15-9-

2000 and non technical adoption at age 5. The predictions that came

true after that was, his starting of another shop in 2003, building

change and his onsite travel (he was joking he never had a passport,

and never intend to get one, but did travel later with wife). Now

the big issue of them is no kids. As per KP it is denied. Can adopt.

I dont know how to read yogas based on Traditional method.

 

These are purely my research and my style.

 

Rgds

Vijay

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Prabhakaran"

<sanjaychettiar wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Please confirm the data,

> you said " DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore."

> and you have used "1) 7.30 AM " did you mean to say 7.5AM to mean

7:30 AM?.

>

> Thank you

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

>

>

> On 8/15/06, vinivj <vinivj wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Hundreds of you had mailed to be personally, than in the group,

> > asking about the ways for to be calculated.

> >

> > Question I posted yesterday.

> >

> > How would you explain about two people born on the same time

> > (recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-

> > poor,Healthy-weak etc.

> >

> > The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having

> > thesame exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not

have

> > anywealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill.

> > DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore.

> >

> > (1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two.

> > (2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a

> > decentsalary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991),

> > married -love (21-1-1990) with a kid then.

> >

> > Answer... in my way.

> >

> > I am not also trying to prove one system of analysis is better

than

> > other. I am also learning here (even after 6300 charts in 17+

> > years). I would say even the first time recorded is not that

> > accurate by few seconds.

> >

> > I am not analysing the entire chart, but giving the pointers of

the

> > houses concerned as given.

> >

> > What has heppened in life (paterns), is shown above with that

extra

> > 20 secs.

> >

> > Here is small explanation with KP system, with the Cuspal Sub

Lord

> > theory. (I am not explaining on Significators and Ruling Planets

> > here).

> >

> > (1) 7.30 AM - time corrected (shows about his health and matches

> > with education)

> >

> > Asc with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ve, 3rd, Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju, 7th

> > Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ke, 11th Sa/Ju and Other RPs Su-Su-

Sa,

> > Mo-Mo-Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

> >

> > Ra with Ve late marrage for (2,7,11) also one of the cause for

low

> > education (3,8,5).

> >

> > (2) 7.30.20 AM - Doctor/Nurse has confirmed, it took about 15 to

20

> > seconds, to move the second baby out.

> >

> > ASC with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ke, 3rd Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju , 7th

> > Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ve, 11th Sa/Ju Other RPs Su-Su-Sa,

Mo-Mo-

> > Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

> >

> > Now what is different from above?

> >

> > Only CSL of Ke instead of Ve changes in 2 and 10.

> > That was enough for change in his fate.

> >

> > 7th shows about marrage, confirmed as love for (2, 11) and

marriage

> > date matched.

> > Also his 8, 12, 2 and 7 has shown serious health issues on Sun

> > Transit time during May 1991 (Kethu effect).

> > Also Su and Ve helped in profession (10).

> >

> > Rgds

> > Vijay

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay,

 

Beautiful analysis.

 

Thanks

 

Souvik

vedic astrology, "vinivj" <vinivj wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Hundreds of you had mailed to be personally, than in the group,

> asking about the ways for to be calculated.

>

> Question I posted yesterday.

>

> How would you explain about two people born on the same time

> (recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-

> poor,Healthy-weak etc.

>

> The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having

> thesame exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have

> anywealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill.

> DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore.

>

> (1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two.

> (2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a

> decentsalary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991),

> married -love (21-1-1990) with a kid then.

>

> Answer... in my way.

>

> I am not also trying to prove one system of analysis is better

than

> other. I am also learning here (even after 6300 charts in 17+

> years). I would say even the first time recorded is not that

> accurate by few seconds.

>

> I am not analysing the entire chart, but giving the pointers of

the

> houses concerned as given.

>

> What has heppened in life (paterns), is shown above with that

extra

> 20 secs.

>

> Here is small explanation with KP system, with the Cuspal Sub Lord

> theory. (I am not explaining on Significators and Ruling Planets

> here).

>

> (1) 7.30 AM - time corrected (shows about his health and matches

> with education)

>

> Asc with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ve, 3rd, Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju, 7th

> Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ke, 11th Sa/Ju and Other RPs Su-Su-Sa,

> Mo-Mo-Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

>

> Ra with Ve late marrage for (2,7,11) also one of the cause for low

> education (3,8,5).

>

> (2) 7.30.20 AM - Doctor/Nurse has confirmed, it took about 15 to

20

> seconds, to move the second baby out.

>

> ASC with Mo/Ju, 2nd STL/CSL Ra/Ke, 3rd Sa/Ju, 5th Mo/Ju , 7th

> Sat/Jup, 8th Ve/Ve, 10th Ra/Ve, 11th Sa/Ju Other RPs Su-Su-Sa, Mo-

Mo-

> Ma, Ve-Ra-Ju, Sa-Ma-Sa

>

> Now what is different from above?

>

> Only CSL of Ke instead of Ve changes in 2 and 10.

> That was enough for change in his fate.

>

> 7th shows about marrage, confirmed as love for (2, 11) and

marriage

> date matched.

> Also his 8, 12, 2 and 7 has shown serious health issues on Sun

> Transit time during May 1991 (Kethu effect).

> Also Su and Ve helped in profession (10).

>

> Rgds

> Vijay

>