Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Dear Sreeram How would you explain about two people born on the same time (recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-poor, Healthy-weak etc. The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having the same exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have any wealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill. DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore. (1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two. (2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a decent salary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991), married - love (21-1-1990) with a kid then. Rgds Vijay vedic astrology, "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Birth time rectification is not an easy process and there are only few > handful of people who know & do it genuinely. I am yet to come across > someone who has the real skill of doing birth time rectification on this > forum. Secondly, why do you require the birth rectification in first > place ??? Are you not sure of the birth time ?? else, what is the error > that you anticipate for the Lagna is not going to change even after 45 > minutes before or after in short !! What makes you to question the birth > data ?? or did someone put you into a groove ??!! > > With the limited information that you have given in the email, it > corroborates the events correctly including your settlement abroad. Kindly > do not get influenced by novice astro on net or elsewhere. First know the > quality of astro_people that you are interacting first, before you submit > questions on this highly skilled & astro_intelligent subjects of birth time > rectification. Your quality of life has improved from Year 2002 onwards > with the advent of Mercury Mahadasha both professionally and satisfaction. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > sreeram64 > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Pinnamaneni Family > Paris > Monday, August 14, 2006 1:46 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Request for TOB correction > > > > Dear Gurujis, > > Namassthe. > > Can you please help me to correct my TOB. > > Here are details: > > December 29, 1955 > Time: 6:35:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 80 E 59' 00", 16 N 27' 00" Gudivada (A.P), India > Gender: Male > > Some important events: > > (1) B.Sc. in 1975 and M.Sc. in 1977 > (2) Marriage: 3rd Oct 1979 > (3) First Female child: 12 Nov 1980 > (4) Second Female Child: 4th June 1982 > (5) First Foreign travel: 20th Feb 1987 to France. Settled in France. > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > NOTE: It will be great if you can give also details how this chart is > adjusted. > > Best regards > Bhanu > > > . > > <http://geo./serv? s=97359714&grpId=1229044&grpspId=1600082686&msgId > =78649&stime=1155554249&nc1=3848642&nc2=2&nc3=3> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I accept your contention and also want to say that mere horoscope is not enough to probe into the details of why the dis-similarities in life in such cases of identical birth times. It is also a subject of Desh, Kaal & Patra. Further, it is also a function of respective parent's good or bad karma. Hence, mere existence of Yogas ( refer the case recently floated as Quiz by Mr. Noname i.e. nameseigo where in the child inherited a fortune of $ 750 millions ) does not mean that everyone would earn a fortune or mis-fortune !! There could be many other children of identical births, but the quantum of inheritance may vary depending upon the Desh, Kaal & Patra. This is where the Law of Karma comes into picture. further, to have accurate birth time is a function of methods used in analysis. Nadi people do not use Longitudes ( again some variations are there here too !! ) neither the lagna matters to them. KP system requires "accurate & correct birth time" due to its "multiple divisions" in reaching sub-lord...etc.. What is that you are predicting finally, an broad based event. Unless one is intended to predict the next few minutes...it is a different case. Coming back to your point, let me answer in a different way - consider the two different horoscopes given below - Male - 19th March 1958, Masulipatnam, Andhra Pradesh 81E08 & 16N10 Male - 2nd Jan 1960, Masulipatnam, Andhra Pradesh 81E08 & 16N10 They are two distinct personalites. They life has been so similar ( broadly)since their birth, in so many respects it is baffling - be it be food or thoughts or education or academic performance ( many times the marks obtained are too close to be called "duplicate" !! ) or profession or changes in professions or getting married (wives also bear identical names ), for I know both of them very closely, I am able to share this without any biasness. One needs to apply methods after evaluating each case separately. In the referred case of Mr. Pinnamaneni Family Paris [bhanuparis ] his education is very much in line with Vimshottari System - Jupiter Mahadasha & going abroad in Saturn-Mercury - Sun period where there is a connection of 12H & 9H, 7H, 2H & 3H, 4H...etc..with so many houses getting activiated, I feel in my personal opinion the birth data is satisfactory. This also raises another interesting question - which event do you reckon as birth time - umbilical cord or first cry or touching mother earth or...any new theory...etc..add to this the unending confusion over ayanamsa...etc.. then again use of 360 or 365 days.....we are not Varahamirhira in our predictive skills, finally what is that you get .....AN APPROXIMATE TIME !!!! Finally is it worth ??? for doing normal predictions. Let me also reproduce the e-mail of Mr. Ramesh Tendulkar [ram_t_1968 (AT) (DOT) co.in] dt. 14th Aug. 2006 Quote At least without birth time rectification, nothing comes accurate in KP system. That is why I give the disclaimer. Shri KSK's son Mr Subramaniam at Chennai with 40+ years of experience, says a handful of people give correct birth time. (is it first cry of baby? what if born thru operation.... etc). When planets governing are changing every minute, and with 249 x 12 x 9 possible combinations for a minute, imagine the results. It would be stories only, when you predict. It is laborious and take 1 to 12 hours, setting the ASC CSL and SSL to the MO's STL and CSL. For free reading nobody does it. Unquote with regards, sreeram srinivas _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of vinivj Monday, August 14, 2006 7:04 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: About TOB correction Dear Sreeram How would you explain about two people born on the same time (recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-poor, Healthy-weak etc. The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having the same exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have any wealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill. DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore. (1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two. (2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a decent salary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991), married - love (21-1-1990) with a kid then. Rgds Vijay vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Birth time rectification is not an easy process and there are only few > handful of people who know & do it genuinely. I am yet to come across > someone who has the real skill of doing birth time rectification on this > forum. Secondly, why do you require the birth rectification in first > place ??? Are you not sure of the birth time ?? else, what is the error > that you anticipate for the Lagna is not going to change even after 45 > minutes before or after in short !! What makes you to question the birth > data ?? or did someone put you into a groove ??!! > > With the limited information that you have given in the email, it > corroborates the events correctly including your settlement abroad. Kindly > do not get influenced by novice astro on net or elsewhere. First know the > quality of astro_people that you are interacting first, before you submit > questions on this highly skilled & astro_intelligent subjects of birth time > rectification. Your quality of life has improved from Year 2002 onwards > with the advent of Mercury Mahadasha both professionally and satisfaction. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > sreeram64 .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714&grpId=1229044&grpspId=1600082686&msgId =78659&stime=1155562695&nc1=3848641&nc2=2&nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 That's true. Even with correct Navamsa, we work on approximate data only. P.Kumar - vinivj vedic astrology Monday, August 14, 2006 7:03 PM [vedic astrology] Re: About TOB correction Dear Sreeram How would you explain about two people born on the same time (recorded), at the same hospital having different fates? Rich-poor, Healthy-weak etc. The classic case of twins, born to a mother by operation, having the same exact Natal Chart. (Lagna, Stars,...). Father did not have any wealth at all, he was a bag lifter in a cotton mill. DOB 19-1-1964, 7.50AM, Coimbatore. (1) One is surviving who has Polio, is poor. Unmarried. Plus two. (2) The other one very Healthy, Civil Engineer and had a decent salary, passed away in an accident at age 27 (21-5-1991), married - love (21-1-1990) with a kid then. Rgds Vijay vedic astrology, "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Birth time rectification is not an easy process and there are only few > handful of people who know & do it genuinely. I am yet to come across > someone who has the real skill of doing birth time rectification on this > forum. Secondly, why do you require the birth rectification in first > place ??? Are you not sure of the birth time ?? else, what is the error > that you anticipate for the Lagna is not going to change even after 45 > minutes before or after in short !! What makes you to question the birth > data ?? or did someone put you into a groove ??!! > > With the limited information that you have given in the email, it > corroborates the events correctly including your settlement abroad. Kindly > do not get influenced by novice astro on net or elsewhere. First know the > quality of astro_people that you are interacting first, before you submit > questions on this highly skilled & astro_intelligent subjects of birth time > rectification. Your quality of life has improved from Year 2002 onwards > with the advent of Mercury Mahadasha both professionally and satisfaction. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > sreeram64 > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Pinnamaneni Family > Paris > Monday, August 14, 2006 1:46 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Request for TOB correction > > > > Dear Gurujis, > > Namassthe. > > Can you please help me to correct my TOB. > > Here are details: > > December 29, 1955 > Time: 6:35:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 80 E 59' 00", 16 N 27' 00" Gudivada (A.P), India > Gender: Male > > Some important events: > > (1) B.Sc. in 1975 and M.Sc. in 1977 > (2) Marriage: 3rd Oct 1979 > (3) First Female child: 12 Nov 1980 > (4) Second Female Child: 4th June 1982 > (5) First Foreign travel: 20th Feb 1987 to France. Settled in France. > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > NOTE: It will be great if you can give also details how this chart is > adjusted. > > Best regards > Bhanu > > > . > > <http://geo./serv? s=97359714&grpId=1229044&grpspId=1600082686&msgId > =78649&stime=1155554249&nc1=3848642&nc2=2&nc3=3> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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