Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Dear Friends, I wish to bring to notice about selective utterances very much necessary in communications whether verbal,or written or via someone ,with our natives/clients. a) We have witnessed in the latest episode ,what happens- the uproar of the native who was linked to extra marital relationships, though not directly but one astrologer talking to another and asking to clarify. I shudder to imagine what would have been my plight had I even given any indirect shade to that client as suggested by my friend astrologer, which would have amounted to character assasination on my part. I shudder more to think that had I said anything to that effect to the native on a personal meeting with him,what would have been my fate, and more shudder if that client would have been aggressive in nature. This shows and proves about the necessity of selective talking with any client/native. b) I met an astrologer ,his experience with one client in first person. " One man came to me asking for Muhurta for Divorce, I said that people come for Muhurta for marriages-garlanding time at time of saat pheras and not for divorce. But that man said that "I want a muhurta so that my divorce takes place withou any hassles. " Anyway i asked him to show his horoscope. I checked his 7th Cusp and Dasha running, but I noticed there was no divorce noticeable there. So i questioned him why do You want a divorce. The client said that "why do You want to know that, You please answer my question." I said that Your answer is connected to my answer to You. Then he replied that "I dont have a child . My in laws are asking me to go for fertility checking whether I have the required sperms or not, which i dont want to do. And they are pestering me for the same. I dont like this...." I then checked his 5th cusp which showed clearly that he can bear children. I asked him to show his wifes horoscope too which he did, and that too showed that her wife was fertile too, and their child was expected after 18 months time. But I did not tell the native this. I said no need to check Your fertility, You can bear children., and You will have too in future. But the client replied that "Sir dont give me lecture about other things , I have already decided, just give me answer when should I file papers for divorce." I then told this native that You will have to wait for at least 12 months more otherwise You will have lot of problems and may end up paying most of Your property to this woman. He said that he would wait. He paid my fees and left. This native came back to me after 9 months with a box of pedas saying that his wife was pregnant and now he does not want divorce. I took out his horoscope papers from my file and showed him what I had written in my remarks when he had come to meet me for the first time. I had written "Native will have child after 18 months and will not go for divorce." He said "why did not You tell me before," I then told him that You were not ready to listen so I had to put fear in You to wait for 12 months." The second instance shows that slective talking and at times shielding the facts for the good of the native is also permissible, if the end is well. Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Dear Shri Kumar ji and Bhaskar ji While reading the chart, many a times - an astrologer need to confirm events / trends. For that purpose, foremost important thing is to build a trust relationship with client. This, at times becomes difficult on forum driven chart readings (specially when an astrologer does not know the native well).. In view of my observation of handling this issue by experienced astrologers - they reply in brief with reasoning, and stick to the issue. Yes, during consultation in person, these facts validation exercise can be done little more interactively and openly. In my personal opinion, if astrologer choose to predict on forum for reading request - he must avoid asking embrassing questions on the forum (and ask them through private mail). and such prediction must be made alongwith the rationale. In the event, astrologer does not want to discuss the reasoning, then he must post his reply privately to the querent. There are lot many helpful and far competent astrologers on other forums as well and almost all of them follow these norms. Unfortunately, this forum is not adequately moderated and lacks the compliance with commonly known requisite reading norms. regards / Prafulla Gang The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. > > gbp_kumar > Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:29:10 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: SELECTIVE TALKING 13/8 > > Bhaskar, > ur mail has 3 parts > > 1st tha tin a `public forum' some ones chart was disected on a > sensitive subject which is reserved for private 121 scenarion. > > 2nd can an astrolgoer ask akward questions? YEST TRUTH is alays bitter > and to verify u can alwyas ask. I I have asked, and seen my guru ask > > In fact a close client of his where many events tallied, just to test > the interpretations laind in BPHS vol 2 he asked his client `right now > do u have a relationship with a pregnant widow' he was outraged, furious > and demand how he can say ut then my Guru showed him the sloka in BPHS > VOL2 he said the sage must be drunk, insane to write it and left in > huff, a few day slater he came and said i ant this book, and read it > paitnetly again and did admit it, that he had a relationship with a > women was pregnant and her husband died just aftr she was pregnant. > 3. so u can make sure, and truth will prevail it depends on how u ask > and also support ur statement,. v few works show u this combination. and > have to update ur knowledge and also the scriptres r right, if people > admit them instead of hiding or brusing it under the carpet. > > > u must ask in a way that does'nt hurt anyone it may initially this is > where ur competence as a counseller, a pyschic healer, comes into play. > > SAT-CHIT-ANANDA is truth not blunt words= facts r bitter, bitter things > r not facts. > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I wish to bring to notice about selective utterances very much > necessary in communications > whether verbal,or written or via someone ,with our natives/clients. > > a) We have witnessed in the latest episode ,what happens- the uproar > of the native who was > linked to extra marital relationships, though not directly but > one astrologer talking to another > and asking to clarify. I shudder to imagine what would have been > my plight had I even given > any indirect shade to that client as suggested by my friend > astrologer, which would > have amounted to character assasination on my part. I shudder > more to think that had > I said anything to that effect to the native on a personal > meeting with him,what would > have been my fate, and more shudder if that client would have > been aggressive in nature. > This shows and proves about the necessity of selective talking > with any client/native. > > b) I met an astrologer ,his experience with one client in first > person. > " One man came to me asking for Muhurta for Divorce, I said that > people come for > Muhurta for marriages-garlanding time at time of saat pheras > and not for divorce. But that > man said that > "I want a muhurta so that my divorce takes place withou any > hassles. " Anyway i asked him > to show his horoscope. I checked his 7th Cusp and Dasha running, but > I noticed there was no divorce noticeable there. So i questioned him > why do You want a divorce. The client said that > "why do You want to know that, You please answer my question." I said > that Your answer is connected to my answer to You. Then he replied > that "I dont have a child . My in laws are asking me to go for > fertility checking whether I have the required sperms or not, which i > dont want to do. And they are pestering me for the same. I dont like > this...." I then checked his 5th cusp which showed clearly that he > can bear children. > I asked him to show his wifes horoscope too which he did, and that > too showed that her wife was fertile too, > and their child was expected after 18 months time. But I did not tell > the native this. I said no need to > check Your fertility, You can bear children., and You will have too > in future. But the client replied that > "Sir dont give me lecture about other things , I have already > decided, just give me answer when should > I file papers for divorce." I then told this native that You will > have to wait for at least 12 months more > otherwise You will have lot of problems and may end up paying most of > Your property to this woman. > He said that he would wait. He paid my fees and left. This native > came back to me after 9 months with a box of pedas saying that his > wife was pregnant and now he does not want divorce. I > took out his horoscope papers from my file and showed him what I had > written in my > remarks when he had come to meet me for the first time. I had > written "Native will have child > after 18 months and will not go for divorce." He said "why did not > You tell me before," I then told him that You were not ready to > listen so I had to put fear in You to wait for 12 months." > > The second instance shows that slective talking and at times > shielding the facts for the good of > the native is also permissible, if the end is well. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > but > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > Please fix times for this in advance -*- > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar > 09840051861 > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out MessengerÂ’s low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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