Marriage-Astroresearch-2

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Dear Suri, Namaskar

 

I agree with Ramesh (though using different

techniques!) that something doesn't add up.

 

UL is in Virgo with it's lord debilitated and

suffering a curse, and the house itself has the

graha drsti of three malefics. Further, the lord

of the 2nd from UL is in a dusthana in Rasi and

debilitated in Navamsa. I cannot see how this

marriage can be the one you are describing - this

UL shows a strained relationship. I am inclined

now to think that this UL is showing a

relationship prior to marriage that did not last.

 

Could you share the spouse's chart with us? Is

she quite spiritual? Talkative?

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

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Om Namah Shivai!

Dear Samir jee, namaskar,

What is that doesn't add up, Me is debilitated, deep debilitation point for Me is 15degree in Pi. In case of native, Me is 1 degree Pi and it is in neechabhanga status, 1st lord in 10, 10th lord in 1st.

What kind of curse is it?, please explain. both are very spiritual.

Let us understand UL, little better, UL, signifies, marriage and spouse,but does not signify length of marriage.

8th house from UL signifies length of marriage, which is aries in this case and no planets are present, lord Ma is exalted in 3 of 9.

2nd and 7th from UL are for end of marriage, 2nd from UL is also 5th from lagna, and is aspected by Ju, any negative tendencies of Venus are checked by Ju only ( The couple are blessed with two daughters, 1995, 2003.) Ju mahadasa was the best for native till now, in all spheres of life, 7th from UL is occupied by Sun, Ma and Me, aspecting UL?.

This is clear indication that there is a possibility of end of marriage as a rule, but the big question is when? after Ju mahadasa it is sani mahadasa, and sani is atmakaraka, present in its own moolatrikona, and also 9th from lagna, dharma, and aspected by jupiter, what else do you want, this is the best any chart can have. but Sun, Ma, Me are present in 10th house, If in any way Me shows its debilitation, it would be in its antaradasa, but it will hit the native in career, Sun and Ma would aid the native.

There is no problem in relationship between Ve and Sa. so we have to wait till Sun antara in Sani maha 2009-2010 and Ma antara in Sani maha 2012 - 2013. But Sani atmakaraka, in 9th, 2nd cycle of sade sati, will make this native very mature very early.

Again, 7th from moon, lagna, is Sg, lord Ju in lagna, and aspecting it with moon, no malefics any where near it, if UL caused this marriage, Ju and moon will sustain it.

Previous relationsip to this marriage. The native turned 18 in 1984, Ju mahadasa, 1983-1999, if Venus does not help the marriage, will it help forming relations and that to in presence of Ju in Ju mahadasa, in middle class society of india.

We are asking too much. but I would like to know how you arrived at this new point. please help me understand.

Om Namah Shivai!

SPI

Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote:

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Dear Suri, Namaskar

 

I agree with Ramesh (though using different techniques!) that something doesn't add up.

 

UL is in Virgo with it's lord debilitated and suffering a curse, and the house itself has the graha drsti of three malefics. Further, the lord of the 2nd from UL is in a dusthana in Rasi and debilitated in Navamsa. I cannot see how this marriage can be the one you are describing - this UL shows a strained relationship. I am inclined now to think that this UL is showing a relationship prior to marriage that did not last.

 

Could you share the spouse's chart with us? Is she quite spiritual? Talkative?

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Suri, Namaskar

 

I have tried to respond to your queries below

 

At 01:21 14/08/2006, you wrote:

> Om Namah Shivai!

> Dear Samir jee, namaskar,

>What is that doesn't add up, Me is debilitated,

>deep debilitation point for Me is 15degree in

>Pi. In case of native, Me is 1 degree Pi and it

>is in neechabhanga status, 1st lord in 10, 10th lord in 1st.

 

[samir] What doesn't add up is that I don't think

this first relationship could have lasted. The

UL is weak and afflicted, and so is the 2nd from it (sustenance for UL).

 

> What kind of curse is it?, please explain. both are very spiritual.

 

[samir] Mercury is afflicted causing a curse of

uncle. It is debilitated, and retrograde,

meaning the curse cannot be remedied

easily. This occurs in the 10th house showing

that it will cause problems in career. But the

whole combination is aspecting the UL and AL,

whilst Mercury is the lord, so both of these will suffer also.

 

> Let us understand UL, little better, UL,

> signifies, marriage and spouse,but does not signify length of marriage.

 

[samir] If the UL is weak, will it be able to

keep the relationship going? Further, the 2nd

from the UL is what sustains it. If it is weak,

then the marriage will break early. Here, Venus

is debilitated in Navamsa and Libra has the

dristi of two malefics. I have already pointed

out that the UL itself is severely afflicted. It

is receiving the graha dristi of three malefics!

 

> 8th house from UL signifies length of

> marriage, which is aries in this case and no

> planets are present, lord Ma is exalted in 3 of 9.

 

[samir] I was taught that the 8th from the UL

shows the NEXT relationship. But the UL and the

2nd from it will give us an idea how long the marriage lasts.

 

> 2nd and 7th from UL are for end of

> marriage, 2nd from UL is also 5th from lagna,

> and is aspected by Ju, any negative tendencies

> of Venus are checked by Ju only ( The couple

> are blessed with two daughters, 1995,

> 2003.) Ju mahadasa was the best for native

> till now, in all spheres of life, 7th from UL

> is occupied by Sun, Ma and Me, aspecting UL?.

 

[samir] Venus is debilitated in Navamsa. If we

do not have the blessings of God (bhagya, Navamsa), how can we keep going?

 

>This is clear indication that there is a

>possibility of end of marriage as a rule, but

>the big question is when? after Ju mahadasa it

>is sani mahadasa, and sani is atmakaraka,

>present in its own moolatrikona, and also 9th

>from lagna, dharma, and aspected by jupiter,

>what else do you want, this is the best any chart can have.

 

[samir] What does this have to do with the UL?

 

>but Sun, Ma, Me are present in 10th house, If in

>any way Me shows its debilitation, it would be

>in its antaradasa, but it will hit the native in

>career, Sun and Ma would aid the native.

 

[samir] I disagree - there is a curse here, and

Mars and Sun cause an eclipse yoga that will further damage Mercury.

 

>There is no problem in relationship between Ve

>and Sa. so we have to wait till Sun antara in

>Sani maha 2009-2010 and Ma antara in Sani maha

>2012 - 2013. But Sani atmakaraka, in 9th, 2nd

>cycle of sade sati, will make this native very mature very early.

>Again, 7th from moon, lagna, is Sg, lord Ju in

>lagna, and aspecting it with moon, no malefics

>any where near it, if UL caused this marriage, Ju and moon will sustain it.

>Previous relationsip to this marriage. The

>native turned 18 in 1984, Ju mahadasa,

>1983-1999, if Venus does not help the marriage,

>will it help forming relations and that to in

>presence of Ju in Ju mahadasa, in middle class society of india.

 

[samir] Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

 

[samir] Please share the spouse's chart, so we

can try and find out which UL it is for this

person. I think the person is on the UL3 -

Scorpio. The two relationships before this, in

my opinion, could not have lasted for 10

years. I have given the reasons for this

already. But I could be wrong, so the best way is to check the spouse's chart.

 

Best wishes

 

Samir