Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Dear Asutosh, Bhaskar, as Prafulla has said it will be nice if both of u put ur energy more in astro words than personal swipes. Does affect the image of the group. I was initially put off by Bhaskars comments in early days when before he came on to chart reading did make strong comments on a few posts and when I pointed to some he misread it and over reacted, [i wish after sensing it as misread and an over-reaction I still failed and reply to it and went for a low slang show] but did not allow it to drag too far. In some posts I do observe Bhaskar overdoing it but it is not my job to watch over any one and sure everyone must set their own standards this i refer to his attack on Surya was TOO STRONG as even Pt.Arjun said as Surya was not even reacting badly to anyone of the taunts every member threw at him so there was overboard. REST OF US HAVE pushed surya to a point that he either stick to astro or BLOW THE whistle against the wind his choice now we find Bhaskar also in line so this is a welcome change. BUT BHAsKAR pl see this is not personal but I appreciate the change so far in ur posts. and now asotosh mars+rahu if he said w.r.t full chart reading of urs esp when the thread was on did make MORE SENSE than serve a slant here. really these episodes have allowed me also like others to know ourselves better and check our weak sides and become better persons, life is a eternal learning. process AGAIN IF U NOTICE TODAY ALSO CHANDRA+RAHU WE HAD A FEW in the past months at least the ones i remember in Jam, Feb was on RR , later by TARUN CHOPRA twice, june - Tarun agarwal twice and me and Bhaskar once in July. but I will surely not react that way again, I feel if other eis no truth in a thread no use giving it life. I TRIED TO MIX MY STYLE and Pt.arjuns who dos this job as he is relocating and needs time , resources to start going again am filling his space, voice too. again no hard feelings plz this is just a mix of well done on a few and need to do well in few cases no policing. Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Dear Shri Kumar ji I agree to possible outbursts with moon / rahu in transit; but very seldom, can appreciate the direct reference to any poster's chart data (e.g. mars / rahu in close cojunction). I still advocates the open and free discussion, against the masked communication. Yes, personal comments are not welcome (many a times, each of us do react to the personal comments made against us, so such reaction is again part of natural way of living). Fortunately, we all are matured people, without any personal prejudices, so any such reference is still manageable and eventually settles like any matured society. Shri Kumar ji, the biggest risk in masked writing is that - we pretend in the name of idealism..and it is much more harmful, as carrying negativity inside us, is harmful than expression. I am personally happy to see, naturally inclined writings than masked one (except personal attacks !!). So, tough writing is not necessily war, but a healthy argument. It will always help in constructive learning. I always try to speak - freely and with heart..carrying negativity in heart harms both the sides. and One more thing, vocal writers are easy to be resolved for any conflicts, than cold blooded writers. In short term, cold blooded writers can create good opinion amongst readers, but at some stage, they fall with the weight of their own heavy image.... I too, have been party to conflicting situations on thread - with tarun chopra, once on Jupiter, tarun agarwal and so on..but they were contextual and I will like to take them sportingly. Fouls are part of socer game, sometime strategic too..but umpire got to watch it..These are not offences.. regards / Prafulla Gang The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. > > gbp_kumar > Sat, 12 Aug 2006 04:38:26 -0700 (PDT) > > Bhskar , asutosh > > Dear Asutosh, Bhaskar, > > as Prafulla has said it will be nice if both of u put ur energy more > in astro words than personal swipes. Does affect the image of the group. > > I was initially put off by Bhaskars comments in early days when before > he came on to chart reading did make strong comments on a few posts and > when I pointed to some he misread it and over reacted, [i wish after > sensing it as misread and an over-reaction I still failed and reply to > it and went for a low slang show] but did not allow it to drag too far. > > In some posts I do observe Bhaskar overdoing it but it is not my job to > watch over any one and sure everyone must set their own standards this i > refer to his attack on Surya was TOO STRONG as even Pt.Arjun said as > Surya was not even reacting badly to anyone of the taunts every member > threw at him so there was overboard. > > REST OF US HAVE pushed surya to a point that he either stick to astro > or BLOW THE whistle against the wind his choice now we find Bhaskar also > in line so this is a welcome change. > > BUT BHAsKAR pl see this is not personal but I appreciate the change so > far in ur posts. and now asotosh mars+rahu if he said w.r.t full chart > reading of urs esp when the thread was on did make MORE SENSE than serve > a slant here. really these episodes have allowed me also like others to > know ourselves better and check our weak sides and become better > persons, life is a eternal learning. > process > > AGAIN IF U NOTICE TODAY ALSO CHANDRA+RAHU > > WE HAD A FEW in the past months at least the ones i remember in Jam, > Feb was on RR , later by TARUN CHOPRA twice, june - Tarun agarwal twice > and me and Bhaskar once in July. but I will surely not react that way > again, I feel if other eis no truth in a thread no use giving it life. > > I TRIED TO MIX MY STYLE and Pt.arjuns who dos this job as he is > relocating and needs time , resources to start going again am filling > his space, voice too. > > again no hard feelings plz this is just a mix of well done on a few and > need to do well in few cases no policing. > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Shri Prashant Sahab, Pranam. I agree that I should have let the comments of the latest threads on me pass, and not over reacted.But not being so mature as want to be,strong words were unleashed from my side too. I know that my weak point is immediate reactions , without sparing a thought for rereading the mail, or rewording it in a more polite tone, which should be, when I have to address any grieveance. This has put me in embarassing positions many a times, and am trying to change myself. I hope in future I shall not give cause for You having to correct me. But know this that I like You to correct me, your corrections are always welcome, just like elder persons affectionate admonishments to a younger one. Please forgive me for having spoilt the discipline of the Forum, I agree at least I should have been patient and more understanding. PleaseSir, without any hesitation let me know in future too, whenever I go out of step. affectioantely, Bhaskar. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Asutosh, Bhaskar, > > as Prafulla has said it will be nice if both of u put ur energy more in astro words than personal swipes. Does affect the image of the group. > > I was initially put off by Bhaskars comments in early days when before he came on to chart reading did make strong comments on a few posts and when I pointed to some he misread it and over reacted, [i wish after sensing it as misread and an over-reaction I still failed and reply to it and went for a low slang show] but did not allow it to drag too far. > > In some posts I do observe Bhaskar overdoing it but it is not my job to watch over any one and sure everyone must set their own standards this i refer to his attack on Surya was TOO STRONG as even Pt.Arjun said as Surya was not even reacting badly to anyone of the taunts every member threw at him so there was overboard. > > REST OF US HAVE pushed surya to a point that he either stick to astro or BLOW THE whistle against the wind his choice now we find Bhaskar also in line so this is a welcome change. > > BUT BHAsKAR pl see this is not personal but I appreciate the change so far in ur posts. and now asotosh mars+rahu if he said w.r.t full chart reading of urs esp when the thread was on did make MORE SENSE than serve a slant here. really these episodes have allowed me also like others to know ourselves better and check our weak sides and become better persons, life is a eternal learning. > process > > AGAIN IF U NOTICE TODAY ALSO CHANDRA+RAHU > > WE HAD A FEW in the past months at least the ones i remember in Jam, Feb was on RR , later by TARUN CHOPRA twice, june - Tarun agarwal twice and me and Bhaskar once in July. but I will surely not react that way again, I feel if other eis no truth in a thread no use giving it life. > > I TRIED TO MIX MY STYLE and Pt.arjuns who dos this job as he is relocating and needs time , resources to start going again am filling his space, voice too. > > again no hard feelings plz this is just a mix of well done on a few and need to do well in few cases no policing. > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Forum postings are like economics, where no fundamental is correct / applicable in all the circumstances. All principles / mode have their own fallacies, and peraps - all are right in the context / circumstances. *****example *** Feudalism: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk. Fascism: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk. Communism: You have two cows. You must take care of them, but the government takes all the milk. Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income. Enron Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt-equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred through an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company. The Enron annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. ******* Last one with bad intention is fraud..so that must be avoided!!!! regards / Prafulla Gang The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:03:12 -0000 > > Re: Bhskar , asutosh > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > Pranam. > > I agree that I should have let the comments of the latest threads > on me pass, and not over reacted.But not being so mature as want to > be,strong words were unleashed from my side too. > I know that my weak point is immediate reactions , without > sparing a thought for rereading the mail, or rewording it in a more > polite tone, which should be, when I have to address any grieveance. > This has put me in embarassing positions many a times, and am > trying to change myself. > > I hope in future I shall not give cause for You having to > correct me. But know this that I like You to correct me, your > corrections are always welcome, just like elder persons > affectionate admonishments to a younger one. > > Please forgive me for having spoilt the discipline of the Forum, > I agree at least I should have been patient and more understanding. > > PleaseSir, without any hesitation let me know in future too, > whenever I go out of step. > > affectioantely, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar wrote: >> >> Dear Asutosh, Bhaskar, >> >> as Prafulla has said it will be nice if both of u put ur energy > more in astro words than personal swipes. Does affect the image of > the group. >> >> I was initially put off by Bhaskars comments in early days when > before he came on to chart reading did make strong comments on a few > posts and when I pointed to some he misread it and over reacted, [i > wish after sensing it as misread and an over-reaction I still failed > and reply to it and went for a low slang show] but did not allow it > to drag too far. >> >> In some posts I do observe Bhaskar overdoing it but it is not my > job to watch over any one and sure everyone must set their own > standards this i refer to his attack on Surya was TOO STRONG as even > Pt.Arjun said as Surya was not even reacting badly to anyone of the > taunts every member threw at him so there was overboard. >> >> REST OF US HAVE pushed surya to a point that he either stick to > astro or BLOW THE whistle against the wind his choice now we find > Bhaskar also in line so this is a welcome change. >> >> BUT BHAsKAR pl see this is not personal but I appreciate the > change so far in ur posts. and now asotosh mars+rahu if he said > w.r.t full chart reading of urs esp when the thread was on did make > MORE SENSE than serve a slant here. really these episodes have > allowed me also like others to know ourselves better and check our > weak sides and become better persons, life is a eternal learning. >> process >> >> AGAIN IF U NOTICE TODAY ALSO CHANDRA+RAHU >> >> WE HAD A FEW in the past months at least the ones i remember in > Jam, Feb was on RR , later by TARUN CHOPRA twice, june - Tarun > agarwal twice and me and Bhaskar once in July. but I will surely not > react that way again, I feel if other eis no truth in a thread no > use giving it life. >> >> I TRIED TO MIX MY STYLE and Pt.arjuns who dos this job as he is > relocating and needs time , resources to start going again am > filling his space, voice too. >> >> again no hard feelings plz this is just a mix of well done on a > few and need to do well in few cases no policing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Yes sir, i personally like your open and frank writings. regards / Prafulla Gang The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. > > gbp_kumar > Sat, 12 Aug 2006 05:15:38 -0700 (PDT) > > RE: Bhskar , asutosh 12/8 p2 > > Der Prafulla, > sure i did say the mars+rahu was not in right spirit and when there was > 3-4 week debate on various aspcts of BM's chart it cud have been pointed > if he so desired, would have helped him as well than trun it as a trump > card or a joker and that to in such a mean manner. But hope things wil > settle down and WHEN RAHU moves out of Meena at least chand+rahu > conjunctions don't generate such dust and heat. we need LIGHT. > > and u've seen enuf of my posts where ever i can add my views and if > there is merrit, it is open and frank, and for defending Hinduism [all > religions born in South asia] , vedic culture, Swami Vivekakanda or > Raman sure I will never hesitate to reply in full steam or warm blooded > reply. > hot or cold is self distructive. > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Shri Kumar ji > > I agree to possible outbursts with moon / rahu in transit; but very > seldom, can appreciate the direct reference to any poster's chart data > (e.g. mars / rahu in close cojunction). > > I still advocates the open and free discussion, against the masked > communication. Yes, personal comments are not welcome (many a times, > each of us do react to the personal comments made against us, so such > reaction is again part of natural way of living). Fortunately, we all > are matured people, without any personal prejudices, so any such > reference is still manageable and eventually settles like any matured > society. > > Shri Kumar ji, the biggest risk in masked writing is that - we pretend > in the name of idealism..and it is much more harmful, as carrying > negativity inside us, is harmful than expression. I am personally happy > to see, naturally inclined writings than masked one (except personal > attacks !!). So, tough writing is not necessily war, but a healthy > argument. It will always help in constructive learning. I always try to > speak - freely and with heart..carrying negativity in heart harms both > the sides. and One more thing, vocal writers are easy to be resolved for > any conflicts, than cold blooded writers. In short term, cold blooded > writers can create good opinion amongst readers, but at some stage, they > fall with the weight of their own heavy image... > > I too, have been party to conflicting situations on thread - with tarun > chopra, once on Jupiter, tarun agarwal and so on..but they were > contextual and I will like to take them sportingly. Fouls are part of > socer game, sometime strategic too..but umpire got to watch it..These > are not offences.. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting > otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. > > > > > gbp_kumar > > Sat, 12 Aug 2006 04:38:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Bhskar , asutosh > > > > Dear Asutosh, Bhaskar, > > > > as Prafulla has said it will be nice if both of u put ur energy > more > > in astro words than personal swipes. Does affect the image of the > group. > > > > I was initially put off by Bhaskars comments in early days when > before > > he came on to chart reading did make strong comments on a few posts > and > > when I pointed to some he misread it and over reacted, [i wish after > > sensing it as misread and an over-reaction I still failed and reply > to > > it and went for a low slang show] but did not allow it to drag too > far. > > > > In some posts I do observe Bhaskar overdoing it but it is not my > job to > > watch over any one and sure everyone must set their own standards > this i > > refer to his attack on Surya was TOO STRONG as even Pt.Arjun said as > > Surya was not even reacting badly to anyone of the taunts every > member > > threw at him so there was overboard. > > > > REST OF US HAVE pushed surya to a point that he either stick to > astro > > or BLOW THE whistle against the wind his choice now we find Bhaskar > also > > in line so this is a welcome change. > > > > BUT BHAsKAR pl see this is not personal but I appreciate the change > so > > far in ur posts. and now asotosh mars+rahu if he said w.r.t full > chart > > reading of urs esp when the thread was on did make MORE SENSE than > serve > > a slant here. really these episodes have allowed me also like others > to > > know ourselves better and check our weak sides and become better > > persons, life is a eternal learning. > > process > > > > AGAIN IF U NOTICE TODAY ALSO CHANDRA+RAHU > > > > WE HAD A FEW in the past months at least the ones i remember in > Jam, > > Feb was on RR , later by TARUN CHOPRA twice, june - Tarun agarwal > twice > > and me and Bhaskar once in July. but I will surely not react that way > > again, I feel if other eis no truth in a thread no use giving it > life. > > > > I TRIED TO MIX MY STYLE and Pt.arjuns who dos this job as he is > > relocating and needs time , resources to start going again am filling > > his space, voice too. > > > > again no hard feelings plz this is just a mix of well done on a few > and > > need to do well in few cases no policing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Prafulla, well said may be post this to Prakash Karat too. and all the left channels NDTV, CNN IBN, DOOR DARSHAN, ie PAPERS TOO. Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji Forum postings are like economics, where no fundamental is correct / applicable in all the circumstances. All principles / mode have their own fallacies, and peraps - all are right in the context / circumstances. *****example *** Feudalism: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk. Fascism: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk. Communism: You have two cows. You must take care of them, but the government takes all the milk. Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income. Enron Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt-equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred through an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company. The Enron annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. ******* Last one with bad intention is fraud..so that must be avoided!!!! regards / Prafulla Gang The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:03:12 -0000 > > Re: Bhskar , asutosh > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > Pranam. > > I agree that I should have let the comments of the latest threads > on me pass, and not over reacted.But not being so mature as want to > be,strong words were unleashed from my side too. > I know that my weak point is immediate reactions , without > sparing a thought for rereading the mail, or rewording it in a more > polite tone, which should be, when I have to address any grieveance. > This has put me in embarassing positions many a times, and am > trying to change myself. > > I hope in future I shall not give cause for You having to > correct me. But know this that I like You to correct me, your > corrections are always welcome, just like elder persons > affectionate admonishments to a younger one. > > Please forgive me for having spoilt the discipline of the Forum, > I agree at least I should have been patient and more understanding. > > PleaseSir, without any hesitation let me know in future too, > whenever I go out of step. > > affectioantely, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar wrote: >> >> Dear Asutosh, Bhaskar, >> >> as Prafulla has said it will be nice if both of u put ur energy > more in astro words than personal swipes. Does affect the image of > the group. >> >> I was initially put off by Bhaskars comments in early days when > before he came on to chart reading did make strong comments on a few > posts and when I pointed to some he misread it and over reacted, [i > wish after sensing it as misread and an over-reaction I still failed > and reply to it and went for a low slang show] but did not allow it > to drag too far. >> >> In some posts I do observe Bhaskar overdoing it but it is not my > job to watch over any one and sure everyone must set their own > standards this i refer to his attack on Surya was TOO STRONG as even > Pt.Arjun said as Surya was not even reacting badly to anyone of the > taunts every member threw at him so there was overboard. >> >> REST OF US HAVE pushed surya to a point that he either stick to > astro or BLOW THE whistle against the wind his choice now we find > Bhaskar also in line so this is a welcome change. >> >> BUT BHAsKAR pl see this is not personal but I appreciate the > change so far in ur posts. and now asotosh mars+rahu if he said > w.r.t full chart reading of urs esp when the thread was on did make > MORE SENSE than serve a slant here. really these episodes have > allowed me also like others to know ourselves better and check our > weak sides and become better persons, life is a eternal learning. >> process >> >> AGAIN IF U NOTICE TODAY ALSO CHANDRA+RAHU >> >> WE HAD A FEW in the past months at least the ones i remember in > Jam, Feb was on RR , later by TARUN CHOPRA twice, june - Tarun > agarwal twice and me and Bhaskar once in July. but I will surely not > react that way again, I feel if other eis no truth in a thread no > use giving it life. >> >> I TRIED TO MIX MY STYLE and Pt.arjuns who dos this job as he is > relocating and needs time , resources to start going again am > filling his space, voice too. >> >> again no hard feelings plz this is just a mix of well done on a > few and need to do well in few cases no policing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Next-gen email? 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