Professional consultations and fees 10/8 P2

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Dear Pratap, Rajan, Prafulla others

I have replied to this thread seconding Rajans approach.

NOW I CAN ADD like prafulla's views on Pratap mine too is same we can't judge any professional it is his work, his clientele and his YOGAs that work to give him knowledge,name, fame and or money too, and how much money.

But for the fact to state it is not a Free service and a free4all approach at least one has to say it is a paid service like any profession, only then u tend to appreciate it and also take note of it as u do with otter professionals.

BUT ON MAKING A FORTUNE as some do it is not possible for all to be Rupart Murdock's, Bill Gates, Narayana Murthy, Amzad Ali Khan or zakir Hussein the last 3 musicians for example charge over 40k an hr. there are many good ones languishing is street mefils-lack of opportunity or a weak yoga or no yoga or a yoga to fruit later.

I CAN QUOTE FROM MY 1st Guru ref he was an Architect and structural Er. and did evaluation for over 300 schools and many govt bodies etc had a great source of income. but to test it he did take a decision for next 30 days he will not take a pie and give only Free service he almost did it on the 30th day a client came to him saying that they had a bill pending for a yr and was sorry and wanted hi to take it, My Guru refused saying please come tomorrow and give I will take it. as i am under a vow not to take money for 30 days. client pleaded saying today was his last day as the treasurer and tom morrow a new one will take over and when he takes over I want him to have empty coffers so take it. HE HAD TO else next fellow may take yr to pay or may even refuse previous bills.

MORAL OF THE STORY WHAT IS URS WILL BE YOURS, WILL COME ANYWAY,.

if people thank u for ur effort it is 1st reward and good things happening and timely advice on health, surgeries, accidents, weddings, child birth etc will make a big difference in their lives and thus in a professional astrologers too

BY PROFESSIONAL [MY STYLE] work professionally don't charge like one as not sure if he can pay or borrows and pays, will be sad to share his debt, would rather say pl pay when u r in shape.

one other senior astro who wrties is out of NET is relocationg, will reply when he is back on NET.

 

Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria > wrote: Dear Rajan,

I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise.

There are no set fee structure in any profession. A computer professional may be working at 30$/hr and I know some who work for $200/hr. A singer sings a song for $10000 Rs /song and there are singers who would charge 1 crore /song. I know lawyers who work for $25/hr and some who charge $1200/hr.

A professional astrologer has no obligation whatsoever to disclose or even discuss his fee structure. If his fees are high compared to what he can deliver he will end up with no business. I can see a chart for $10 but then it will be waste of client's money.

Thank all the astrologers who are reading even one chart a week for free. They could be all seeing only private clients and make some money.

I hardly ever take part in any discussion. But I couldn't stand the thought of all these generous astrologers being pressured to give more and more for free.

Regards,

Pratap

rajanshekhaawat <rajanshekhaawat (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Sirs,

The silence of the professional astrologers on this matter is

unsettling { intriguing would be a strong word}. Wondering if they'd

come out with a tentative fee structure for all to know.

With regards,

Rajan

, "bhaskar_jyotish"

wrote:

>

> Shri Prafullji,

>

> a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives

> point of view, because I have not done any judgement or

> suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises.

>

> b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma..........

> Very true.

>

> And second all the rest of Your views.

>

> Regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji

> >

> > Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is

> easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism.

So,

> let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes,

> irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native

> must also should not push the astrologer.

> >

> > Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as

> astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his

> limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading

views

> about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial

one

> or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting

> native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to

> client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native

> may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to

be

> his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be

> clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or

> unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the

> process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer.

> >

> > Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of

> opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being

> notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But

> misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when

person

> accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by

countless

> cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life

> depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from

life

> depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to

work

> and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of

the

> bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are

> spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make

> the cables strong!!

> >

> >

> > >

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: Professional consultations and fees

> > >

> > > Shri Prafullaji,

> > >

> > > This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for

any

> > > surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both

> astrologer

> > > and client.

> > >

> > > Regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then

> > > possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at

the

> time

> > > of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or

discount

> it.

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by

> countless

> > > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in

life

> > > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from

> life

> > > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to

> work

> > > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span

of

> the

> > > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you

are

> > > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day.

Make

> > > the cables strong!!

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Sir,

> > >>>

> > >>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees

would

> > > vary

> > >>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor

person

> > >>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to

pay

> > > just

> > >>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some

> > >>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related

to

> > >>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves

contain

> 20

> > >>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may

be

> very

> > >>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half

an

> > > hour

> > >>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours

chatting

> > > with

> > >>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some

may

> be

> > >>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality

or a

> > >>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to

> answer

> > >>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case

Your

> > > Fees

> > >>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000-

> > >>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure.

> > >>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense

> > >>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want

more,

> > > and

> > >>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking.

> > >>>

> > >>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service,

but

> no

> > >>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its

> understood

> > >>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed

> days

> > > are

> > >>> over, till next time.

> > >>>

> > >>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware

of.,

> > >>> and mostly following them too.

> > >>>

> > >>> Regards,

> > >>> Bhaskar.

> > >>> , "rajanshekhaawat"

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Sirs,

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in

this

> > >>> group

> > >>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice

know

> > > what

> > >>>> they are getting into.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete

and

> > >>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the

> > >>> seekers

> > >>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if

they

> > > want

> > >>> to

> > >>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Thanks,

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Rajan

> > >>>>

> > >>

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