Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Shri Prafullaji, This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for any surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both astrologer and client. Regards/Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at the time of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or discount it. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 > > > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees would vary > > for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor person > > who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to pay just > > Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some > > people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related to > > their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves contain 20 > > questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may be very > > specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half an hour > > of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours chatting with > > You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some may be > > simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality or a > > business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to answer > > rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case Your Fees > > may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- > > So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. > > But the natives themselves should realise and have sense > > that if they come on private ids, it means that they want more, and > > should be ready to part money or offer without asking. > > > > Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, but no > > sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its understood > > that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed days are > > over, till next time. > > > > About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware of., > > and mostly following them too. > > > > Regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , "rajanshekhaawat" > > <rajanshekhaawat@> wrote: > >> > >> Sirs, > >> > >> > >> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in this > > group > >> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice know what > >> they are getting into. > >> > >> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete and > >> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the > > seekers > >> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if they want > > to > >> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. > >> > >> But let the charges be known to all publicly. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Rajan > >> > > __________ > GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. So, let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native must also should not push the astrologer. Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading views about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial one or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to be his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when person accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. regards / Prafulla Gang The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > Shri Prafullaji, > > This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for any > surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both astrologer > and client. > > Regards/Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then > possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at the time > of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or discount it. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > the cables strong!! >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 >>> >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>> >>> Dear Sir, >>> >>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees would > vary >>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor person >>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to pay > just >>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some >>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related to >>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves contain 20 >>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may be very >>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half an > hour >>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours chatting > with >>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some may be >>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality or a >>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to answer >>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case Your > Fees >>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- >>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. >>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense >>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want more, > and >>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. >>> >>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, but no >>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its understood >>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed days > are >>> over, till next time. >>> >>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware of., >>> and mostly following them too. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> , "rajanshekhaawat" >>> <rajanshekhaawat@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sirs, >>>> >>>> >>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in this >>> group >>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice know > what >>>> they are getting into. >>>> >>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete and >>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the >>> seekers >>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if they > want >>> to >>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. >>>> >>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Rajan >>>> >> >> __________ >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > features! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Shri Prafullji, a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives point of view, because I have not done any judgement or suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... Very true. And second all the rest of Your views. Regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. So, let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native must also should not push the astrologer. > > Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading views about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial one or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to be his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. > > Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when person accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 > > > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > > > Shri Prafullaji, > > > > This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for any > > surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both astrologer > > and client. > > > > Regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then > > possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at the time > > of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or discount it. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless > > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life > > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work > > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the > > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > > the cables strong!! > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees > >>> > >>> Dear Sir, > >>> > >>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees would > > vary > >>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor person > >>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to pay > > just > >>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some > >>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related to > >>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves contain 20 > >>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may be very > >>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half an > > hour > >>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours chatting > > with > >>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some may be > >>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality or a > >>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to answer > >>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case Your > > Fees > >>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- > >>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. > >>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense > >>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want more, > > and > >>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. > >>> > >>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, but no > >>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its understood > >>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed days > > are > >>> over, till next time. > >>> > >>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware of., > >>> and mostly following them too. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> , "rajanshekhaawat" > >>> <rajanshekhaawat@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sirs, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in this > >>> group > >>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice know > > what > >>>> they are getting into. > >>>> > >>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete and > >>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the > >>> seekers > >>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if they > > want > >>> to > >>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. > >>>> > >>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Rajan > >>>> > >> > >> __________ > >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > > features! > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Sirs, The silence of the professional astrologers on this matter is unsettling { intriguing would be a strong word}. Wondering if they'd come out with a tentative fee structure for all to know. With regards, Rajan , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri Prafullji, > > a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives > point of view, because I have not done any judgement or > suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. > > b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... > Very true. > > And second all the rest of Your views. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is > easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. So, > let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, > irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native > must also should not push the astrologer. > > > > Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as > astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his > limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading views > about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial one > or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting > native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to > client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native > may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to be > his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be > clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or > unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the > process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. > > > > Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of > opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being > notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But > misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when person > accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > the cables strong!! > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 > > > > > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, > > > > > > This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for any > > > surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both > astrologer > > > and client. > > > > > > Regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then > > > possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at the > time > > > of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or discount > it. > > >> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > > >> > > >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > countless > > > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > > > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > life > > > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > work > > > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of > the > > > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > > > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > > > the cables strong!! > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > > >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 > > >>> > > >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees > > >>> > > >>> Dear Sir, > > >>> > > >>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees would > > > vary > > >>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor person > > >>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to pay > > > just > > >>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some > > >>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related to > > >>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves contain > 20 > > >>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may be > very > > >>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half an > > > hour > > >>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours chatting > > > with > > >>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some may > be > > >>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality or a > > >>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to > answer > > >>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case Your > > > Fees > > >>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- > > >>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. > > >>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense > > >>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want more, > > > and > > >>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. > > >>> > > >>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, but > no > > >>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its > understood > > >>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed > days > > > are > > >>> over, till next time. > > >>> > > >>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware of., > > >>> and mostly following them too. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> , "rajanshekhaawat" > > >>> <rajanshekhaawat@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Sirs, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in this > > >>> group > > >>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice know > > > what > > >>>> they are getting into. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete and > > >>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the > > >>> seekers > > >>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if they > > > want > > >>> to > > >>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. > > >>>> > > >>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> > > >>>> Rajan > > >>>> > > >> > > >> __________ > > >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > > > features! > > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Dear Rajan, I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. There are no set fee structure in any profession. A computer professional may be working at 30$/hr and I know some who work for $200/hr. A singer sings a song for $10000 Rs /song and there are singers who would charge 1 crore /song. I know lawyers who work for $25/hr and some who charge $1200/hr. A professional astrologer has no obligation whatsoever to disclose or even discuss his fee structure. If his fees are high compared to what he can deliver he will end up with no business. I can see a chart for $10 but then it will be waste of client's money. Thank all the astrologers who are reading even one chart a week for free. They could be all seeing only private clients and make some money. I hardly ever take part in any discussion. But I couldn't stand the thought of all these generous astrologers being pressured to give more and more for free. Regards, Pratap rajanshekhaawat <rajanshekhaawat (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sirs, The silence of the professional astrologers on this matter is unsettling { intriguing would be a strong word}. Wondering if they'd come out with a tentative fee structure for all to know. With regards, Rajan , "bhaskar_jyotish" wrote: > > Shri Prafullji, > > a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives > point of view, because I have not done any judgement or > suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. > > b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... > Very true. > > And second all the rest of Your views. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is > easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. So, > let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, > irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native > must also should not push the astrologer. > > > > Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as > astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his > limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading views > about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial one > or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting > native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to > client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native > may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to be > his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be > clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or > unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the > process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. > > > > Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of > opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being > notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But > misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when person > accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > the cables strong!! > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 > > > > > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, > > > > > > This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for any > > > surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both > astrologer > > > and client. > > > > > > Regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then > > > possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at the > time > > > of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or discount > it. > > >> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > > >> > > >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > countless > > > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > > > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > life > > > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > work > > > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of > the > > > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > > > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > > > the cables strong!! > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > > >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 > > >>> > > >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees > > >>> > > >>> Dear Sir, > > >>> > > >>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees would > > > vary > > >>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor person > > >>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to pay > > > just > > >>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some > > >>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related to > > >>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves contain > 20 > > >>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may be > very > > >>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half an > > > hour > > >>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours chatting > > > with > > >>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some may > be > > >>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality or a > > >>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to > answer > > >>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case Your > > > Fees > > >>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- > > >>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. > > >>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense > > >>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want more, > > > and > > >>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. > > >>> > > >>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, but > no > > >>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its > understood > > >>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed > days > > > are > > >>> over, till next time. > > >>> > > >>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware of., > > >>> and mostly following them too. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> , "rajanshekhaawat" > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Sirs, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in this > > >>> group > > >>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice know > > > what > > >>>> they are getting into. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete and > > >>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the > > >>> seekers > > >>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if they > > > want > > >>> to > > >>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. > > >>>> > > >>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> > > >>>> Rajan > > >>>> > > >> > > >> __________ > > >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > > > features! > > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > > >> > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I did not say that you have made any comments on judgements. regards / Prafulla Gang The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:47:02 -0000 > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > Shri Prafullji, > > a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives > point of view, because I have not done any judgement or > suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. > > b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... > Very true. > > And second all the rest of Your views. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is > easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. So, > let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, > irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native > must also should not push the astrologer. >> >> Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as > astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his > limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading views > about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial one > or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting > native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to > client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native > may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to be > his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be > clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or > unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the > process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. >> >> Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of > opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being > notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But > misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when person > accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > the cables strong!! >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 >>> >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>> >>> Shri Prafullaji, >>> >>> This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for any >>> surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both > astrologer >>> and client. >>> >>> Regards/Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then >>> possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at the > time >>> of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or discount > it. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > countless >>> cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life >>> depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > life >>> depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > work >>> and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of > the >>> bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are >>> spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make >>> the cables strong!! >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>>>> >>>>> Dear Sir, >>>>> >>>>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees would >>> vary >>>>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor person >>>>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to pay >>> just >>>>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some >>>>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related to >>>>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves contain > 20 >>>>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may be > very >>>>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half an >>> hour >>>>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours chatting >>> with >>>>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some may > be >>>>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality or a >>>>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to > answer >>>>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case Your >>> Fees >>>>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- >>>>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. >>>>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense >>>>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want more, >>> and >>>>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. >>>>> >>>>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, but > no >>>>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its > understood >>>>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed > days >>> are >>>>> over, till next time. >>>>> >>>>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware of., >>>>> and mostly following them too. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> , "rajanshekhaawat" >>>>> <rajanshekhaawat@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sirs, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in this >>>>> group >>>>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice know >>> what >>>>>> they are getting into. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete and >>>>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the >>>>> seekers >>>>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if they >>> want >>>>> to >>>>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rajan >>>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>> features! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>> >> __________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Dear Pratap ji Yes, there can not a benchmark for the fee. Each one can decide about his own fee structure. regards / Prafulla Gang The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > pkaneria > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:16:31 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: Professional consultations and fees > > Dear Rajan, > > I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. > > There are no set fee structure in any profession. A computer > professional may be working at 30$/hr and I know some who work for > $200/hr. A singer sings a song for $10000 Rs /song and there are singers > who would charge 1 crore /song. I know lawyers who work for $25/hr and > some who charge $1200/hr. > > A professional astrologer has no obligation whatsoever to disclose or > even discuss his fee structure. If his fees are high compared to what he > can deliver he will end up with no business. I can see a chart for $10 > but then it will be waste of client's money. > > Thank all the astrologers who are reading even one chart a week for > free. They could be all seeing only private clients and make some money. > > I hardly ever take part in any discussion. But I couldn't stand the > thought of all these generous astrologers being pressured to give more > and more for free. > > Regards, > > Pratap > > rajanshekhaawat <rajanshekhaawat (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Sirs, > > The silence of the professional astrologers on this matter is > unsettling { intriguing would be a strong word}. Wondering if they'd > come out with a tentative fee structure for all to know. > > With regards, > > Rajan > > > > > > > > > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > wrote: >> >> Shri Prafullji, >> >> a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives >> point of view, because I have not done any judgement or >> suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. >> >> b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... >> Very true. >> >> And second all the rest of Your views. >> >> Regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji >>> >>> Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is >> easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. > So, >> let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, >> irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native >> must also should not push the astrologer. >>> >>> Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as >> astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his >> limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading > views >> about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial > one >> or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting >> native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to >> client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native >> may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to > be >> his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be >> clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or >> unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the >> process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. >>> >>> Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of >> opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being >> notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But >> misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when > person >> accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > countless >> cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life >> depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > life >> depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > work >> and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of > the >> bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are >> spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make >> the cables strong!! >>> >>> >>>> >>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>>> >>>> Shri Prafullaji, >>>> >>>> This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for > any >>>> surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both >> astrologer >>>> and client. >>>> >>>> Regards/Bhaskar. >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then >>>> possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at > the >> time >>>> of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or > discount >> it. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by >> countless >>>> cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in > life >>>> depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from >> life >>>> depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to >> work >>>> and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span > of >> the >>>> bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you > are >>>> spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. > Make >>>> the cables strong!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees > would >>>> vary >>>>>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor > person >>>>>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to > pay >>>> just >>>>>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some >>>>>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related > to >>>>>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves > contain >> 20 >>>>>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may > be >> very >>>>>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half > an >>>> hour >>>>>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours > chatting >>>> with >>>>>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some > may >> be >>>>>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality > or a >>>>>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to >> answer >>>>>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case > Your >>>> Fees >>>>>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- >>>>>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. >>>>>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense >>>>>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want > more, >>>> and >>>>>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, > but >> no >>>>>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its >> understood >>>>>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed >> days >>>> are >>>>>> over, till next time. >>>>>> >>>>>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware > of., >>>>>> and mostly following them too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> , "rajanshekhaawat" >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sirs, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in > this >>>>>> group >>>>>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice > know >>>> what >>>>>>> they are getting into. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete > and >>>>>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the >>>>>> seekers >>>>>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if > they >>>> want >>>>>> to >>>>>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rajan >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>>> features! >>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Dear Rajan ji, It is always prudent for any professional to be clear about "fee". But many a times, astrologer traps a client for more and more money, in the name of remedial measures and/or frequent visits. But again, it is the professonal pursuits and many a times, such astrologers fall flat on their face. I have observed many such instances with local astrologers. But, the way natives push astrologers for reading, also can not be taken in good taste. I too, get lot of mails, for which - I decline for my own professinal commitments and lack of predictive expertise. But, yes - I try to be transparent for my inability as well. regards / Prafulla Gang The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > rajanshekhaawat (AT) (DOT) co.in > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:57:54 -0000 > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > Sirs, > > The silence of the professional astrologers on this matter is > unsettling { intriguing would be a strong word}. Wondering if they'd > come out with a tentative fee structure for all to know. > > With regards, > > Rajan > > > > > > > > > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: >> >> Shri Prafullji, >> >> a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives >> point of view, because I have not done any judgement or >> suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. >> >> b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... >> Very true. >> >> And second all the rest of Your views. >> >> Regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji >>> >>> Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is >> easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. > So, >> let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, >> irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native >> must also should not push the astrologer. >>> >>> Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as >> astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his >> limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading > views >> about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial > one >> or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting >> native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to >> client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native >> may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to > be >> his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be >> clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or >> unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the >> process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. >>> >>> Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of >> opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being >> notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But >> misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when > person >> accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > countless >> cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life >> depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > life >> depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > work >> and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of > the >> bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are >> spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make >> the cables strong!! >>> >>> >>>> >>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>>> >>>> Shri Prafullaji, >>>> >>>> This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for > any >>>> surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both >> astrologer >>>> and client. >>>> >>>> Regards/Bhaskar. >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then >>>> possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at > the >> time >>>> of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or > discount >> it. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by >> countless >>>> cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in > life >>>> depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from >> life >>>> depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to >> work >>>> and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span > of >> the >>>> bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you > are >>>> spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. > Make >>>> the cables strong!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: Professional consultations and fees >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees > would >>>> vary >>>>>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor > person >>>>>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to > pay >>>> just >>>>>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some >>>>>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related > to >>>>>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves > contain >> 20 >>>>>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may > be >> very >>>>>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half > an >>>> hour >>>>>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours > chatting >>>> with >>>>>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some > may >> be >>>>>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality > or a >>>>>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to >> answer >>>>>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case > Your >>>> Fees >>>>>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- >>>>>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. >>>>>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense >>>>>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want > more, >>>> and >>>>>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, > but >> no >>>>>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its >> understood >>>>>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed >> days >>>> are >>>>>> over, till next time. >>>>>> >>>>>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware > of., >>>>>> and mostly following them too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> , "rajanshekhaawat" >>>>>> <rajanshekhaawat@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sirs, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in > this >>>>>> group >>>>>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice > know >>>> what >>>>>>> they are getting into. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete > and >>>>>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the >>>>>> seekers >>>>>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if > they >>>> want >>>>>> to >>>>>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rajan >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>>> features! >>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Dear Shri Kumar ji Very well explained!!! regards / Prafulla Gang The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from life depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to work and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make the cables strong!! > > gbp_kumar > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:21:23 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: Professional consultations and fees 10/8 P2 > > Dear Pratap, Rajan, Prafulla others > > I have replied to this thread seconding Rajans approach. > NOW I CAN ADD like prafulla's views on Pratap mine too is same we can't > judge any professional it is his work, his clientele and his YOGAs that > work to give him knowledge,name, fame and or money too, and how much > money. > > But for the fact to state it is not a Free service and a free4all > approach at least one has to say it is a paid service like any > profession, only then u tend to appreciate it and also take note of it > as u do with otter professionals. > > BUT ON MAKING A FORTUNE as some do it is not possible for all to be > Rupart Murdock's, Bill Gates, Narayana Murthy, Amzad Ali Khan or zakir > Hussein the last 3 musicians for example charge over 40k an hr. there > are many good ones languishing is street mefils-lack of opportunity or a > weak yoga or no yoga or a yoga to fruit later. > I CAN QUOTE FROM MY 1st Guru ref he was an Architect and structural > Er. and did evaluation for over 300 schools and many govt bodies etc had > a great source of income. but to test it he did take a decision for next > 30 days he will not take a pie and give only Free service he almost did > it on the 30th day a client came to him saying that they had a bill > pending for a yr and was sorry and wanted hi to take it, My Guru refused > saying please come tomorrow and give I will take it. as i am under a vow > not to take money for 30 days. client pleaded saying today was his last > day as the treasurer and tom morrow a new one will take over and when he > takes over I want him to have empty coffers so take it. HE HAD TO else > next fellow may take yr to pay or may even refuse previous bills. > MORAL OF THE STORY WHAT IS URS WILL BE YOURS, WILL COME ANYWAY,. > if people thank u for ur effort it is 1st reward and good things > happening and timely advice on health, surgeries, accidents, weddings, > child birth etc will make a big difference in their lives and thus in a > professional astrologers too > BY PROFESSIONAL [MY STYLE] work professionally don't charge like one as > not sure if he can pay or borrows and pays, will be sad to share his > debt, would rather say pl pay when u r in shape. > > one other senior astro who wrties is out of NET is relocationg, will > reply when he is back on NET. > > > Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria > wrote: > Dear Rajan, > > I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. > > There are no set fee structure in any profession. A computer > professional may be working at 30$/hr and I know some who work for > $200/hr. A singer sings a song for $10000 Rs /song and there are singers > who would charge 1 crore /song. I know lawyers who work for $25/hr and > some who charge $1200/hr. > > A professional astrologer has no obligation whatsoever to disclose or > even discuss his fee structure. If his fees are high compared to what he > can deliver he will end up with no business. I can see a chart for $10 > but then it will be waste of client's money. > > Thank all the astrologers who are reading even one chart a week for > free. They could be all seeing only private clients and make some money. > > I hardly ever take part in any discussion. But I couldn't stand the > thought of all these generous astrologers being pressured to give more > and more for free. > > Regards, > > Pratap > > rajanshekhaawat <rajanshekhaawat (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Sirs, > > The silence of the professional astrologers on this matter is > unsettling { intriguing would be a strong word}. Wondering if they'd > come out with a tentative fee structure for all to know. > > With regards, > > Rajan > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > wrote: > > > > Shri Prafullji, > > > > a)I assume You are talking of judgement and criticism from natives > > point of view, because I have not done any judgement or > > suggested or commented on any astrologers approach and practises. > > > > b) Misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma.......... > > Very true. > > > > And second all the rest of Your views. > > > > Regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Each one has his own professional approach and practices. It is > > easy to criticise any specific modalities and live on idealism. > So, > > let us stop one short of judgement on any such modalities. Yes, > > irrespective of modalities, native must not be misled, and native > > must also should not push the astrologer. > > > > > > Very often, Native feels that - the consultation is free and as > > astrologer starts helping in good faith, native also exceeds his > > limit. Part free and part paid concept gives lots of misleading > views > > about astrologer. So, an astrologer has option to be commercial > one > > or free helper; but he got to be explicit prior to even soliciting > > native; and got to be mentioning his professional fee, prior to > > client seeking his advise (>if commercial). In the process, native > > may not like the commercial astrologers, but then it is going to > be > > his problem. Also, when native approach the astrologer, he will be > > clear in terms of fee structure. Until then, knowingly or > > unknowingly, native can not guess and confusion starts. In the > > process, he creates wrong opinion about astrologer. > > > > > > Karma is too deep a point, to be lived with from expression of > > opinions. Let each individual live per his karma without being > > notified. Who knows, what can be real bad karma !!! But > > misunderstanding is certainly not a bad karma, specially when > person > > accepts, acknowledges and do necessary clarifications. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > countless > > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in life > > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > life > > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > work > > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span of > the > > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you are > > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. Make > > the cables strong!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:26 -0000 > > > > > > > > Re: Professional consultations and fees > > > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, > > > > > > > > This can be setlled before hand so that there is no scope for > any > > > > surprises. That type of maturity has to exist bewteen both > > astrologer > > > > and client. > > > > > > > > Regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> What is wrong is defining yr fee. if fee is fluctuating, then > > > > possibility is high that native is given "good" surprise at > the > > time > > > > of payment. Astrologer always ha4ve option to waive or > discount > > it. > > > >> > > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > > > >> > > > >> The long span of the bridge of your life is supported by > > countless > > > > cables called habits, attitudes, and desires. What you do in > life > > > > depends upon what you are and what you want. What you get from > > life > > > > depends upon how much you want it, how much you are willing to > > work > > > > and plan and co-operate and use your resources. The long span > of > > the > > > > bridge of your life is supported by countless cables that you > are > > > > spinning now, and that is why today is such an important day. > Make > > > > the cables strong!! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > >>> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:45:58 -0000 > > > >>> > > > >>> Re: Professional consultations and fees > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Sir, > > > >>> > > > >>> Good suggestion but not possible practically. Because fees > would > > > > vary > > > >>> for every client.I would not charge Rs.1000- from a poor > person > > > >>> who may not be able to pay me that amount, I may ask him to > pay > > > > just > > > >>> Rs.21- or not pay at all. Then there are other factors, Some > > > >>> people ask just 2-3 questions. Some ask half a dozen related > to > > > >>> their horoscopes. Some peoples 2-3 questions themselves > contain > > 20 > > > >>> questions. Whereas some peoples half a dozen questions may > be > > very > > > >>> specific. Again some people may be happy with consuming half > an > > > > hour > > > >>> of You, and some would be happy with only after 2 hours > chatting > > > > with > > > >>> You.Some people may be oversmart with their questions. Some > may > > be > > > >>> simple. Again one client may be a minister type personality > or a > > > >>> business magnate for whom You may have to spend 2-3 days to > > answer > > > >>> rightly as You cannot afford to displease him. In that case > Your > > > > Fees > > > >>> may be Rs.10000-and not Rs.1000- > > > >>> So theres no hard n fast rule for Fees structure. > > > >>> But the natives themselves should realise and have sense > > > >>> that if they come on private ids, it means that they want > more, > > > > and > > > >>> should be ready to part money or offer without asking. > > > >>> > > > >>> Doctors serving at cataract camps would give free service, > but > > no > > > >>> sooner You approach them at their private clinics, its > > understood > > > >>> that he has a family to feed, and his free service appointed > > days > > > > are > > > >>> over, till next time. > > > >>> > > > >>> About the astrologers norms, I need not say, all are aware > of., > > > >>> and mostly following them too. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > >>> , "rajanshekhaawat" > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sirs, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> It would be a good idea if the professional astrologers in > this > > > >>> group > > > >>>> declare their fees publicly so that those seeking advice > know > > > > what > > > >>>> they are getting into. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> It is true that no professional is going to give a complete > and > > > >>>> comprehensive advice without having been paid. Therefore the > > > >>> seekers > > > >>>> can ask peripheral queries in the group for free, and if > they > > > > want > > > >>> to > > > >>>> seek a detailed analysis they might as well pay for it. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> But let the charges be known to all publicly. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Rajan > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >> ________ > > > >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > > > > features! > > > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > > > >> > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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