Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 The ancient /old vaidyas, and some even today, used this power. But its not only mere intution, rather there is a whole gamut of powers of consciousness known as siddhis. Its the original technology by which sciences have been studied in India. E.g. anima, laghima, garima and six others, plus some more. Details are in Patanjali's Yogsutras. Indians have known that consciousness is the substratum of everthing in creation. So, they developed the technology of consciousness to study /know anything n everything. In Ayurveda, when we say that Sage Bharadwaja went to Indra or Brahmaa etc, what is actually meant that the Sage awakened his Indra or Brahma-consciousness. ANybody can do this even today or anytime. The technology is known as Ashtang Yoga Yashendra Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 > wrote: Indian vaidyas have all along depended heavily on intuition, both in themselves, in nature and in their patients to evolve newer and better cures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 This author recollected a pertinent paragraph from the post of Todd Caldecott on pulse diagnosis: http://health.ayurveda/message/3504 "the attraction of formal education is obvious, but it can also blind us to the fact that healing is imbedded in our relationship with earth - in this way, the earth actually "grows" physicians, and even though they may not be all that sophisticated they can often be more effective because their experience is reflective of this relationship, and does not hinge on semantical constructs that appeal to the intellect, but in fact can be ineffective or even dangerous" And also it may be interesting to note that Siddha Vaidyas use intuition to a great extent; an interesting post by Dr Vidhyasagar is here: http://health.ayurveda/message/7526 Author remembers a paragraph from Eli Jones book, Cancer - Its causes, symptoms and treatment written in 1912. After curing more than 4200 cancer cases Eli Jones wrote this book. About expertism in diagnosis and requirements of a good doctor he writes: "He must know his specialty from A to Z. He cannot afford to make any foolish blunders. He must educate his hands -- have his eyes at his fingers' ends. The delicate, sensitive touch of the fingers will soon teach him how to detect cancer in any form in a woman's breast. By a digital examination he will learn how to differentiate cancer of the os uteri from ulceration, induration or fibroid tumor. A good deal can be learned from a study of the symptoms of cancer under the diferent forms given in other parts of this book, but very much more must be learned in the SCHOOL OF EXPERIENCE." Lastly, author wishes to emphasize that when an ayurvedist is taking pulse of the patient he is using all his intuition, cognitive skills in matching spectral signatures in the memory. http://health.ayurveda/message/7104? threaded=1&l=1 By the way, Eli Jones also writes a lot about pulse diagnosis: Many times I have noticed this fact that when the eye, the pulse, and the tongue showed the organs of the body secreting properly, good digestion, a strong, full, regular pulse, the disease itself would be at a standstill, but if the signs showed a weakened vitality, the disease would take on new life and activity. So it must be concluded that intuition is not the birth right of Indian ayurveds only, but any service minded healer using any technique. Intuitional power is the gift of Creator, and Vaidya should keep the field strong by breathing meditation or equivalent techniques. ayurveda, Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 wrote: > Indian vaidyas have all along depended heavily on intuition, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Yes, traditional physicians world over has used subtle consciousness in medical field. And intution is not used just in Ayurveda but in Allopathy as well, though they don't recognize it so openly. I remember several such cases of Late Dr. B.C. Roy of Bengal, and Late Dr. T N Banerji ( physician) and Late Dr. B. Mukhopadhyay (orthopaedics) of Patna. All from Allopathy. They could 'smell' diseases /problems !!!! However, so far I have not come across this being developed as a properly organized and methodical science ( not just random intution) and technology apart from the Vedic civilisation, though there are strong indications of its presence in South America, Egypt and some other places. The technology of Ashtang yoga forms the basis of all knowledge-pursuits in ancient India. The Gurukul system was based on it. The famous Nalanda, Taxila and Vikramshila Universities were based on this. The famous Kulpati of Nalanda - Nagarjuna-the great exponent of Ras-shashtra was a great adept in the field. Jeevak was known for his yogic powers. If we go further back, the entire Ayurveda...from Bharadwaj to Agnivesa, Charak, Sushrut, Vagbhatta etc. all used siddhis ( yoga) to explore Ayurveda. The same holds true for scientists in other fields, like Kanad, Patanjali, Vatsyayan, Vedvyasa, Kapila, etc. Apart from India, we have examples of Asur Maya whose treatises on architecture ( Maymatam) and astronomy ( Surya-Siddhanta) etc are still in use. Pythagorus picked up the knowledge from India and became a great exponent in his region. And I am sure that the builders of the pyramids in Egypt were also no less advanced. And, in modern times, Edgar Caycee of the USA has been well known. Eeven though he was not a doctor in normal state, in samadhi state he could diagnose, prescribe cures and in case of unavailability of medicine he could even name the place and shop in the world where one could find it !! People can learn these things today also, as a proper & methodical science. But one needs immense patience and dedication. Yashendra Shirish Bhate <shirishbhate > wrote: This author recollected a pertinent paragraph from the post of Todd Caldecott on pulse diagnosis: http://health.ayurveda/message/3504 "the attraction of formal education is obvious, but it can also blind us to the fact that healing is imbedded in our relationship with earth - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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