meat and chronic diseases

August 9, 2006

Dear Todd

When organic/free-range/wild meat is used in limited proportion along

with plenty of vegetables/fruits/grains etc, the fiber helps to

eliminate the wastes generated through metabolism of animal proteins

and body may be able to filter out the good nutrition(e.g. B12 Vitamin).

In order to get such a meat, one will have to live in wild, since

these days, even in Indian villages, getting organic fodder for

animals is difficult. Pesticides, chemical manures and GM seeds have

reduced land fertility. So urbanised population gets only

industrial milk, meat and eggs. The bio energy of these animal

products when they are in hands of consumer may be 10% of the wild products described by you. To get

such products, one has to become a hunter or go to the communities

you mention.

Regarding diabtes, author finds the larger proportion of indian

patients are urbanized and non-vegans as well as vegans. This supports your statements

fully. Many cancer patients find that they experience better energies

after they switch to vegan diets. And regarding american meat, the

diet recommended by American Diabetes Association is also shown to be

poor as compared to complete vegan diet, a research published last

week. Conclusions may be due to industrial meat and dairy:

Vegan diet found to markedly improve health of diabetes patients

A Low-Fat Vegan Diet Improves Glycemic Control and Cardiovascular

Risk Factors in a Randomized Clinical Trial in Individuals With Type

2 Diabetes

Neal D. Barnard, Joshua Cohen, David J.A. Jenkins, Gabrielle Turner-

McGrievy, Lise Gloede, Brent Jaster, Kim Seidl, Amber A. Green, and

Stanley Talpers

Diabetes Care 2006 29: 1777-1783.

Read above paper abstract at:

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/29/8/1777

http://www.newstarget.com/019785.html

Perhaps, as you say, the issue may not be vegetarianism vs non-

vegetarianism, but GM foods, pesticides, toxins caking up cell

membranes to cause cellular malfunctions of beta cells etc....Due to poor diet, meat/milk/eggs causing more toxic sludge in the body is something one can not ignore however. Total malfunction of beta cells must be interpreted as Vatic form of Diabetes (Madhumeha?).

These exchanges should be treated as attempts to seek root causes of

diseases, technicalities of food, rather than attempts to convert non-veg population to vegans. When ayurvedic texts were written, Industrial farming, poultry and dairy did not exist. So the issues of modern society would not have been in the minds of acharyas, nor they could have imagined excesses of modern times, where war weapons produce most cruel deaths!

Due to diseases, switch to vegan phenomenon is automatic, as is being observed amongst cancer patients of U.S.A. In vegetable market too, when certain vegetable is about to become off-season/costly/or available poor quality, we switch choice to alternate vegetable!

dr Bhate

ayurveda, "Todd Caldecott" <todd

wrote:

> the fact of the matter is that ALL these studies generalize their

findings because its impossible to separate out someone who eats meat

as per the above example (which is most americans) and organic/free-

range/wild meat in a balanced diet with vegetables and other foods -

it is these same studies that tell you that dietary fat is bad, but

do not look at even basic issues in the quality and types of fat

>

> vegetarians, according to the Diabetes Atlas (2nd ed) it also has

the highest number of diabetics (35.5 million) compared neighbouring