Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA thanks for this Manoj. also Keval, for what it's worth, i appreciate your efforts. and for the record Keval's liberal policy of the more open the better, is how i see Amma, open and all encompassing, that is part of what makes Her so special. She is literally embracing the whole world, showing Love to everyOne. to me Self regulation is the ideal way, though personally i find it a constant effort. but if the guidelines did have to change maybe we could take a page from the International Astronomical Union, who i see declared that Pluto is no longer a planet. they use the following as a guideline; the new rules for a planet: "a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit." we all orbit around the Sun(Amma), so everyone qualifies there. and we all are striving to gravitate towards The Self. overcoming rigid forces and clearing the neighborhood around my orbit seem to be the challenges for me but i guess it is all a work in progress, huh. JAI MA Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammademon wrote: > > Ammachi, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> wrote: > > Surya and all, > > IMHO and respectfully, this is a classic case of "the other must > change" versus "change myself". > > The desire to see: > 1. Keval change his policies > 2. this group tranform to a more focused group etc > > belongs to the realm of "change others". > > Does Amma not tell us to live in harmony with the world by accepting > them AS IS? Did Sri Yukteshwar (Yogananda's guru) not say "live like > an ant; take the sugar, don't disturb the sand"? (Keval, I don't mean > to say you are sand!) > > a "change myself" solution would be what I suggested before but on > which no response has been registered yet: > 1. Create another group which is directly inspired by Amma and is > moderated according to Amma's instructions (maybe a Br. or a senior > devotee can oversee the moderation and take direct guidance from Amma > to lead this new group) > 2. Let all other groups flourish AS IS! > > Jai Ma! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 The point that many were making is how does this place now differ from the free speech zone? It is not about rigidity, openness, etc. It is about preference. Jai Maa! Surya - ecjensen_us Ammachi Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:37 AM Re: BIDDING FAREWELL???? -Manoj on Self Regulation OM NAMAH SIVAYA thanks for this Manoj. also Keval, for what it's worth, i appreciate your efforts. and for the record Keval's liberal policy of the more open the better, is how i see Amma, open and all encompassing, that is part of what makes Her so special. She is literally embracing the whole world, showing Love to everyOne. to me Self regulation is the ideal way, though personally i find it a constant effort. but if the guidelines did have to change maybe we could take a page from the International Astronomical Union, who i see declared that Pluto is no longer a planet. they use the following as a guideline; the new rules for a planet: "a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit." we all orbit around the Sun(Amma), so everyone qualifies there. and we all are striving to gravitate towards The Self. overcoming rigid forces and clearing the neighborhood around my orbit seem to be the challenges for me but i guess it is all a work in progress, huh. JAI MA Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammademon wrote: > > Ammachi, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> wrote: > > Surya and all, > > IMHO and respectfully, this is a classic case of "the other must > change" versus "change myself". > > The desire to see: > 1. Keval change his policies > 2. this group tranform to a more focused group etc > > belongs to the realm of "change others". > > Does Amma not tell us to live in harmony with the world by accepting > them AS IS? Did Sri Yukteshwar (Yogananda's guru) not say "live like > an ant; take the sugar, don't disturb the sand"? (Keval, I don't mean > to say you are sand!) > > a "change myself" solution would be what I suggested before but on > which no response has been registered yet: > 1. Create another group which is directly inspired by Amma and is > moderated according to Amma's instructions (maybe a Br. or a senior > devotee can oversee the moderation and take direct guidance from Amma > to lead this new group) > 2. Let all other groups flourish AS IS! > > Jai Ma! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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