Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 HI there. As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. Have you heard of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. hope i am correct ... ana_raguin <ana_raguin (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: HI there. As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. Have you heard of this? All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 really?, no yogis are wearing Indonesian rudrakshas? What do you mean by the properties would be different? The way I see it, it's like strawberries from the UK, would be still be the same as compared to strawberries from the US? One might be jucier and bigger, but they are both strawberries. I am very new to this and would really like to learn more and make sure that next time I get rudrakshas again, it would be the best. Those who are more sure of the similarities/differences of both beads, aside from the way they look, please enlighten us. The question of its power or potency has been asked a million times, but if you have any experiences on both, please also elaborate what you think. Thanks. Ana , Simone <shombaz wrote: > > hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. > > The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. > > So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! > > No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. > > hope i am correct ... > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin wrote: > HI there. > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > Have you heard of this? > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Namah Shivaya, I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the truth. I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the same time. I just don't know. All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. Bom Bholanath Mahadev! Surya - Simone Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. hope i am correct ... ana_raguin <ana_raguin (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: HI there. As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. Have you heard of this? All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 fair enough ... surya ji the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete within they have no attachment to anything external. so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been gifted with it. as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by themselves without the help of the master will benefit from rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that caused it to be costly. like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch high prices. hope this does not offend anyone ... simone Mahamuni Das <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: Namah Shivaya, I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the truth. I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the same time. I just don't know. All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. Bom Bholanath Mahadev! Surya - Simone Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. hope i am correct ... ana_raguin <ana_raguin (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: HI there. As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. Have you heard of this? All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 There are many types of mahatmas. Some definitely do go and buy rudrakshas--both for themselves and for gifts for other sadhus, disciples, etc. Many handle and spend money readily. There are many types. I have spent time with many, even many of the naked ones. What you say about marketing, may or may not be true. I don't think so actually. The scriptures talk about size and hardness, etc. They are all great! BOM! Surya - Simone Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:48 PM Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha fair enough ... surya ji the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete within they have no attachment to anything external. so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been gifted with it. as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by themselves without the help of the master will benefit from rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that caused it to be costly. like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch high prices. hope this does not offend anyone ... simone Mahamuni Das <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: Namah Shivaya, I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the truth. I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the same time. I just don't know. All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. Bom Bholanath Mahadev! Surya - Simone Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. hope i am correct ... ana_raguin <ana_raguin (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: HI there. As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. Have you heard of this? All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dear Ana, Botanically, Indonesian and Nepal rudraksha is one and the same species. Indonesian beads are more sturdy than Nepal beads. In India, Japa Malas are generally made using Indonesian beads. Nepal beads, no doubt look beautiful, however, are expensive and less sturdy than Indonesian beads. I have not seen so far a single Indonesian bead infected by fungi or insects. With best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke ana_raguin <ana_raguin (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: HI there. As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. Have you heard of this? Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Thanks to all of you. , chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Dear Ana, > > Botanically, Indonesian and Nepal rudraksha is one and the same species. Indonesian beads are more sturdy than Nepal beads. In India, Japa Malas are generally made using Indonesian beads. Nepal beads, no doubt look beautiful, however, are expensive and less sturdy than Indonesian beads. I have not seen so far a single Indonesian bead infected by fungi or insects. > > With best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin wrote: > HI there. > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > Have you heard of this? > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hi Surya, Interesting about your mention about the scriptures saying about their size and hardness. When you have time, would you please elaborate on what the scriptures say? I would really like to know on what it says there. Thanks Ana , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > There are many types of mahatmas. Some definitely do go and buy rudrakshas--both for themselves and for gifts for other sadhus, disciples, etc. Many handle and spend money readily. There are many types. I have spent time with many, even many of the naked ones. > > What you say about marketing, may or may not be true. I don't think so actually. The scriptures talk about size and hardness, etc. > > They are all great! > > BOM! > > Surya > - > Simone > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:48 PM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > > fair enough ... surya ji > > the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete within they have no attachment to anything external. > > so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been gifted with it. > > as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by themselves without the help of the master will benefit from rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. > > chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that caused it to be costly. > > like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch high prices. > > hope this does not offend anyone ... simone > > > > Mahamuni Das <mahamuni wrote: > Namah Shivaya, > > I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the truth. > > I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the same time. I just don't know. > > All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. > > Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. > > Bom Bholanath Mahadev! > > Surya > > - > Simone > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. > > The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. > > So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! > > No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. > > hope i am correct ... > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin wrote: > HI there. > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > Have you heard of this? > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hi Surya, Interesting about your mention about the scriptures saying about their size and hardness. When you have time, would you please elaborate on what the scriptures say? I would really like to know on what it says there. Thanks Ana , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > There are many types of mahatmas. Some definitely do go and buy rudrakshas--both for themselves and for gifts for other sadhus, disciples, etc. Many handle and spend money readily. There are many types. I have spent time with many, even many of the naked ones. > > What you say about marketing, may or may not be true. I don't think so actually. The scriptures talk about size and hardness, etc. > > They are all great! > > BOM! > > Surya > - > Simone > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:48 PM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > > fair enough ... surya ji > > the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete within they have no attachment to anything external. > > so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been gifted with it. > > as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by themselves without the help of the master will benefit from rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. > > chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that caused it to be costly. > > like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch high prices. > > hope this does not offend anyone ... simone > > > > Mahamuni Das <mahamuni wrote: > Namah Shivaya, > > I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the truth. > > I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the same time. I just don't know. > > All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. > > Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. > > Bom Bholanath Mahadev! > > Surya > > - > Simone > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. > > The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. > > So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! > > No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. > > hope i am correct ... > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin wrote: > HI there. > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > Have you heard of this? > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 When I have time I will. I'm very busy preparing for Ganesh Chaturthi celebrations here that I am hosting. Blessings, Surya - ana_raguin Friday, August 25, 2006 1:33 AM Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha Hi Surya, Interesting about your mention about the scriptures saying about their size and hardness. When you have time, would you please elaborate on what the scriptures say? I would really like to know on what it says there. Thanks Ana , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > There are many types of mahatmas. Some definitely do go and buy rudrakshas--both for themselves and for gifts for other sadhus, disciples, etc. Many handle and spend money readily. There are many types. I have spent time with many, even many of the naked ones. > > What you say about marketing, may or may not be true. I don't think so actually. The scriptures talk about size and hardness, etc. > > They are all great! > > BOM! > > Surya > - > Simone > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:48 PM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > > fair enough ... surya ji > > the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete within they have no attachment to anything external. > > so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been gifted with it. > > as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by themselves without the help of the master will benefit from rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. > > chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that caused it to be costly. > > like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch high prices. > > hope this does not offend anyone ... simone > > > > Mahamuni Das <mahamuni wrote: > Namah Shivaya, > > I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the truth. > > I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the same time. I just don't know. > > All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. > > Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. > > Bom Bholanath Mahadev! > > Surya > > - > Simone > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. > > The energetic composition is very very different compared to the Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. > > So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in the game of seeds that cost ! > > No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. > > hope i am correct ... > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin wrote: > HI there. > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about indonesian > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > Have you heard of this? > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 http://www.aryabhatt.com/rudraksha/Rudraksha_about.asp The link above states that it started in Indonesia. I do not know how accurate the information is. Ana , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > When I have time I will. I'm very busy preparing for Ganesh Chaturthi celebrations here that I am hosting. > > Blessings, > > Surya > > - > ana_raguin > > Friday, August 25, 2006 1:33 AM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > > Hi Surya, > > Interesting about your mention about the scriptures saying about > their size and hardness. > > When you have time, would you please elaborate on what the > scriptures say? > > I would really like to know on what it says there. > > Thanks > > Ana > > , "Mahamuni Das" > <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > There are many types of mahatmas. Some definitely do go and buy > rudrakshas--both for themselves and for gifts for other sadhus, > disciples, etc. Many handle and spend money readily. There are > many types. I have spent time with many, even many of the naked > ones. > > > > What you say about marketing, may or may not be true. I don't > think so actually. The scriptures talk about size and hardness, etc. > > > > They are all great! > > > > BOM! > > > > Surya > > - > > Simone > > > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:48 PM > > Re: Is it true? Indonesian > Rudraksha > > > > > > fair enough ... surya ji > > > > the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by > devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete > within they have no attachment to anything external. > > > > so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that > they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been > gifted with it. > > > > as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by > themselves without the help of the master will benefit from > rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. > > > > chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly > then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that > caused it to be costly. > > > > like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo > and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch > high prices. > > > > hope this does not offend anyone ... simone > > > > > > > > Mahamuni Das <mahamuni@> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya, > > > > I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the > truth. > > > > I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha > tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the > same time. I just don't know. > > > > All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost > respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are > beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. > > > > Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads > as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from > Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. > My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. > > > > Bom Bholanath Mahadev! > > > > Surya > > > > - > > Simone > > > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM > > Re: Is it true? Indonesian > Rudraksha > > > > hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were > migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species > of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is > claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. > > > > The energetic composition is very very different compared to the > Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the > introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in > my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the > texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared > to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. > > > > So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in > the game of seeds that cost ! > > > > No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment > will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... > they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. > > > > hope i am correct ... > > > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin@> wrote: > > HI there. > > > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about > indonesian > > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > > > Have you heard of this? > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get > things done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 I'd love to sell them some lots of GS and Ganesh beads for what they are asking! - ana_raguin Friday, August 25, 2006 1:52 PM Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha http://www.aryabhatt.com/rudraksha/Rudraksha_about.asp The link above states that it started in Indonesia. I do not know how accurate the information is. Ana , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > When I have time I will. I'm very busy preparing for Ganesh Chaturthi celebrations here that I am hosting. > > Blessings, > > Surya > > - > ana_raguin > > Friday, August 25, 2006 1:33 AM > Re: Is it true? Indonesian Rudraksha > > > Hi Surya, > > Interesting about your mention about the scriptures saying about > their size and hardness. > > When you have time, would you please elaborate on what the > scriptures say? > > I would really like to know on what it says there. > > Thanks > > Ana > > , "Mahamuni Das" > <mahamuni@> wrote: > > > > There are many types of mahatmas. Some definitely do go and buy > rudrakshas--both for themselves and for gifts for other sadhus, > disciples, etc. Many handle and spend money readily. There are > many types. I have spent time with many, even many of the naked > ones. > > > > What you say about marketing, may or may not be true. I don't > think so actually. The scriptures talk about size and hardness, etc. > > > > They are all great! > > > > BOM! > > > > Surya > > - > > Simone > > > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:48 PM > > Re: Is it true? Indonesian > Rudraksha > > > > > > fair enough ... surya ji > > > > the mahatmas never buy anything, usually they are gifted by > devotees ... as they are the perfect ones and since they complete > within they have no attachment to anything external. > > > > so i can only in my opinion of being with company of some - that > they only use not for the energetic benefits but they have been > gifted with it. > > > > as for the tantrics - siddhas - or anyone who is on the path by > themselves without the help of the master will benefit from > rudrakshas, crytals or personalised yantras. > > > > chikna variety of japa malas from indonesia is no doubt costly > then nepal beads but only because of great marketing strength that > caused it to be costly. > > > > like anything else you can take a block of pastic with a logo > and with marketing the price of that plastic with logo can fetch > high prices. > > > > hope this does not offend anyone ... simone > > > > > > > > Mahamuni Das <mahamuni@> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya, > > > > I am sorry Simone but what you are saying is very far from the > truth. > > > > I am not sure if there is any way of telling where the rudraksha > tree originated. It is possible it originated in both places at the > same time. I just don't know. > > > > All rudraksha are sacred and should be treated with the utmost > respect. All rudraksha are different and unique but all are > beautiful and part and parcel of Mahadev. > > > > Many yogis, swamis, saints, mahatmas, etc, wear Indonesian beads > as well as Nepali beads. Beads made from Chikna variety are all from > Indonesia and are more priced for malas generally than Nepali beads. > My Guru Amma wears them and other saints I know do as well. > > > > Bom Bholanath Mahadev! > > > > Surya > > > > - > > Simone > > > > Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:36 AM > > Re: Is it true? Indonesian > Rudraksha > > > > hey .... I thought it started in Nepal and then the plants were > migrated (by humans and maybe birds) and all the different species > of rudrakshas appeared. Some of them are not even rudrakshas but is > claimed to be rudraksha as they look like it. > > > > The energetic composition is very very different compared to the > Nepal Rudraksha. As Nepal rudrakshas are getting costly, the > introduction of Indonesian beads has created a great confusion ( in > my opinion ) as the cost is lower. Sometimes I do ask - if the > texture of the beads is different - nepal is more defined compared > to indonesian - then surely the properties will be different. > > > > So in other words ... Rudrakshas grown in Nepal ranks highest in > the game of seeds that cost ! > > > > No yogi, swami or a person seeking some type of enlightenment > will wear Indonesian beads as seen in photos ancient and new ... > they only use Rudrakshas grown in Nepal. > > > > hope i am correct ... > > > > ana_raguin <ana_raguin@> wrote: > > HI there. > > > > As I was surfing over the internet to learn more about > indonesian > > Rudrakshas, I read somewhere that rudrakshas actually started in > > Indonesia and was just planted in the Himalayas afterwards. > > > > Have you heard of this? > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get > things done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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