Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Dear Richardji: A good friend of mine recently made a donation for shaligram as he saw the benefits that I was reaping from having them in my life. The difference is I am a devotee and he is not. I do daily worship and am vegetarian as I have been a Vedic practitioner for over 30 years... He is Buddhist, but owns a number of rudraksha. He has a beautiful home altar, where the shaligram live, but I think he eats meat and don't know what sort of puja he does to the shilas ..if any. After reading this story as well as your exchange with Mr. Ole I am wishing I had not encouraged him as I had. I don't think he will be particularily fond of the notion to give them away. To return them back to where he got them would be quite costly in shipping. I would be willing to reimburse what he paid and take them , but I think he has grown attached to them as possessions.. Do you or any of the other members know what is taught scriptually as to the ramifications of not doing daily worship or eating meat and worshipping. I can't seem to find any, but I have found descriptions as to the benefits of giving them away.. I feel if he was more thoroughly educated he could make a better decision .. I feel responsible for the shaligram coming his way. Many thanks. Ariel sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear All, > > One of my clients who is a billionaire likes to collect sacred > objects, and when he read about Shalagram he asked me for one. I told > him Shalagram is not like other items, it cannot be worn as talisman > or kept as keepsake... FIRST you must be Vegetarian, and then do DAILY > puja, non-stop. That was enough to discourage him. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Richardji and Mr. Pradeep: > > > > Thank you both for your insights. > > > > Your words are very thought provoking and worth pondering. > > > > With kind regards, > > Ariel > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why > > > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the > > > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > > > > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > > > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can > > that > > > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Dear Ariel, I'm certain that Shalagram Shila is "Svatantra" or independant. He goes where He likes and is fully satisfied, from biggest temple pujas, and down to being a respected decoration... in all cases He is atmarama or Self-satisfied. That is the meaning of Shalagram, Who is Sat Chit Ananda. And as you can see that Shalagram seems happy. Shalagram is able to leave at will, but He is remaining. So blessed is your friend. Please don't worry. If you want to know a lot about Shalagram please visit this page: http://www.agt-gems.com/salagram-quotes.html In some Vedic quotes it says to have Shalagram, even without any puja, is beyond auspicious, because Bhagavan Himself has chosen to reside there. "Eko-aham bahu sama" - "I am one, but become many". There will not be any harm caused by Shalagram Shila Who is all-auspicious. Regardless of worship or respect, or even without respect is still 100% auspicious. Best rgds, Richard --- Ariel <kamael9 > wrote: > Dear Richardji: > > A good friend of mine recently made a donation for shaligram as he > saw the benefits that I was reaping from having them in my life. > > The difference is I am a devotee and he is not. > I do daily worship and am vegetarian as I have been a Vedic > practitioner for over 30 years... > > He is Buddhist, but owns a number of rudraksha. He has a beautiful > home altar, where the shaligram live, but I think he eats meat and > don't know what sort of puja he does to the shilas ..if any. > > After reading this story as well as your exchange with Mr. Ole I am > wishing I had not encouraged him as I had. > > I don't think he will be particularily fond of the notion to give > them away. To return them back to where he got them would be quite > costly in shipping. I would be willing to reimburse what he paid and > take them , but I think he has grown attached to them as > possessions.. > > Do you or any of the other members know what is taught scriptually as > > to the ramifications of not doing daily worship or eating meat and > worshipping. I can't seem to find any, but I have found descriptions > as to the benefits of giving them away.. > > I feel if he was more thoroughly educated he could make a better > decision .. I feel responsible for the shaligram coming his way. > > Many thanks. > > Ariel > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66 wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > One of my clients who is a billionaire likes to collect sacred > > objects, and when he read about Shalagram he asked me for one. I > told > > him Shalagram is not like other items, it cannot be worn as > talisman > > or kept as keepsake... FIRST you must be Vegetarian, and then do > DAILY > > puja, non-stop. That was enough to discourage him. > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Richardji and Mr. Pradeep: > > > > > > Thank you both for your insights. > > > > > > Your words are very thought provoking and worth pondering. > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > Ariel > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is > why > > > > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is > the > > > > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > > > > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > > > > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > > > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > > > > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to > worship. > > > > > > > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > > > > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number > > of > > > > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > > > > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > > > > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life > can > > > that > > > > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > > > > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! Dear Shri Richard Krishna, Shri Ariel Krishna, the self bows in respect to the self in your-selves. Krishna, yes you are right however we should not neglect HIM purposefully...there are a couple of mantras which your friend's jiva should receite and offer HIM naivaidya if he is not able to do the pooja. Since your friend is not a vegetarian the Shri Saalagrama murthy has to be donated to a temple by your friend. Those who are in a hurry can take few minutes to recite the two dhyAna slOkams, perform japam of AshtAksharam, offer milk, TaambhOlam, Karpoora haratthi. The SaaLagrama Moorthys at home should not be neglected and starved since inauspiciousness will result otherwise to the home. The two dhyAna slOkams are: dhyAyAmi Devam LakshmIsam Sankha-chakra-gadhAdharam PeethAmBara paridhAnam Padhmasannibha lOchanam Mandasmitha mhukhAmbhOjam madhanAyutha Sundaram MaayAnirmitha lOkaougam mEgasyAmaLa vigraham SrI LakshmI NaarAyaNam dhyAyAmi NamO NamasthE KaruNAlaya NamO NamasthE KamalAdhavAya NamO NamasthE JagathAm cha srashtrE namO namasthE nathsOka harthrE ThrAhi maam KaruNAsindhO ! Paahi maam KamalApathE! Thvayi bhakthi: sadhaivAsthu mama sarvArTadhAyini (PraNavam ) NamO NaarAyaNa ..Subhamasthu. Even on days in which one is unable to perform AarAdhanam for SaaLagrAma Moorthys , The ladies of the house or children can recite the above slOkAs in front of the Moorthys, offer the food cooked for the day as naivEdhyam and complete the aarAdhanam this way. When one is unable to perform SaaLagrama PoojA, which is the easiest daily ritual to perform, one should give them away to temples or to those, who can accept that daily duty. Ask your friend to donate HIM to a temple where they will take care of HIM. Like the benefits you get in charity, you do get half the dhosham if your friend delibrately ignores Sri Saligrama Aradhanam. SubhamMastu! Subham Dinam Astu! Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanam Astu! Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Ariel, I'm certain that Shalagram Shila is "Svatantra" or independant. He goes where He likes and is fully satisfied, from biggest temple pujas, and down to being a respected decoration... in all cases He is atmarama or Self-satisfied. That is the meaning of Shalagram, Who is Sat Chit Ananda. And as you can see that Shalagram seems happy. Shalagram is able to leave at will, but He is remaining. So blessed is your friend. Please don't worry. If you want to know a lot about Shalagram please visit this page: http://www.agt-gems.com/salagram-quotes.html In some Vedic quotes it says to have Shalagram, even without any puja, is beyond auspicious, because Bhagavan Himself has chosen to reside there. "Eko-aham bahu sama" - "I am one, but become many". There will not be any harm caused by Shalagram Shila Who is all-auspicious. Regardless of worship or respect, or even without respect is still 100% auspicious. Best rgds, Richard --- Ariel <kamael9 > wrote: > Dear Richardji: > > A good friend of mine recently made a donation for shaligram as he > saw the benefits that I was reaping from having them in my life. > > The difference is I am a devotee and he is not. > I do daily worship and am vegetarian as I have been a Vedic > practitioner for over 30 years... > > He is Buddhist, but owns a number of rudraksha. He has a beautiful > home altar, where the shaligram live, but I think he eats meat and > don't know what sort of puja he does to the shilas ..if any. > > After reading this story as well as your exchange with Mr. Ole I am > wishing I had not encouraged him as I had. > > I don't think he will be particularily fond of the notion to give > them away. To return them back to where he got them would be quite > costly in shipping. I would be willing to reimburse what he paid and > take them , but I think he has grown attached to them as > possessions.. > > Do you or any of the other members know what is taught scriptually as > > to the ramifications of not doing daily worship or eating meat and > worshipping. I can't seem to find any, but I have found descriptions > as to the benefits of giving them away.. > > I feel if he was more thoroughly educated he could make a better > decision .. I feel responsible for the shaligram coming his way. > > Many thanks. > > Ariel > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66 wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > One of my clients who is a billionaire likes to collect sacred > > objects, and when he read about Shalagram he asked me for one. I > told > > him Shalagram is not like other items, it cannot be worn as > talisman > > or kept as keepsake... FIRST you must be Vegetarian, and then do > DAILY > > puja, non-stop. That was enough to discourage him. > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Richardji and Mr. Pradeep: > > > > > > Thank you both for your insights. > > > > > > Your words are very thought provoking and worth pondering. > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > Ariel > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is > why > > > > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is > the > > > > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > > > > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > > > > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > > > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > > > > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to > worship. > > > > > > > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > > > > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number > > of > > > > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > > > > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > > > > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life > can > > > that > > > > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > > > > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Fantastic !!!! Many Thanks to you Maha Prabhu for your wisdom !!! With much Gratitude... A sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Ariel, > > I'm certain that Shalagram Shila is "Svatantra" or independant. He goes > where He likes and is fully satisfied, from biggest temple pujas, and > down to being a respected decoration... in all cases He is atmarama or > Self-satisfied. That is the meaning of Shalagram, Who is Sat Chit > Ananda. > > And as you can see that Shalagram seems happy. Shalagram is able to > leave at will, but He is remaining. So blessed is your friend. Please > don't worry. If you want to know a lot about Shalagram please visit > this page: http://www.agt-gems.com/salagram-quotes.html > > In some Vedic quotes it says to have Shalagram, even without any puja, > is beyond auspicious, because Bhagavan Himself has chosen to reside > there. "Eko-aham bahu sama" - "I am one, but become many". There will > not be any harm caused by Shalagram Shila Who is all-auspicious. > Regardless of worship or respect, or even without respect is still 100% > auspicious. > > Best rgds, > Richard > --- Ariel <kamael9 wrote: > > > Dear Richardji: > > > > A good friend of mine recently made a donation for shaligram as he > > saw the benefits that I was reaping from having them in my life. > > > > The difference is I am a devotee and he is not. > > I do daily worship and am vegetarian as I have been a Vedic > > practitioner for over 30 years... > > > > He is Buddhist, but owns a number of rudraksha. He has a beautiful > > home altar, where the shaligram live, but I think he eats meat and > > don't know what sort of puja he does to the shilas ..if any. > > > > After reading this story as well as your exchange with Mr. Ole I am > > wishing I had not encouraged him as I had. > > > > I don't think he will be particularily fond of the notion to give > > them away. To return them back to where he got them would be quite > > costly in shipping. I would be willing to reimburse what he paid and > > take them , but I think he has grown attached to them as > > possessions.. > > > > Do you or any of the other members know what is taught scriptually as > > > > to the ramifications of not doing daily worship or eating meat and > > worshipping. I can't seem to find any, but I have found descriptions > > as to the benefits of giving them away.. > > > > I feel if he was more thoroughly educated he could make a better > > decision .. I feel responsible for the shaligram coming his way. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Ariel > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > One of my clients who is a billionaire likes to collect sacred > > > objects, and when he read about Shalagram he asked me for one. I > > told > > > him Shalagram is not like other items, it cannot be worn as > > talisman > > > or kept as keepsake... FIRST you must be Vegetarian, and then do > > DAILY > > > puja, non-stop. That was enough to discourage him. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Richardji and Mr. Pradeep: > > > > > > > > Thank you both for your insights. > > > > > > > > Your words are very thought provoking and worth pondering. > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is > > why > > > > > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is > > the > > > > > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > > > > > > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > > > > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > > > > > > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to > > worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number > > > > of > > > > > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life > > can > > > > that > > > > > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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