Guest guest Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Namaskar to All, I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; * Max Size * Max spherical shape * Max weight * Natural hole through bead * Bright, attractive even color * Lustre (shine) * Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead * Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) popular?) * Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls * Emit positive vibrations Anything else? [:-?] Many thanks, Ole Alstrup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 On page 15 of his illustrious book "Power of Rudraksha", the venerable founder of Rudra Centre, Shri Kamal Seetha, interestingly states that "the surface of the genuine bead should not be over-thorny and should have good hardness. Any inputs about the issue of level of thorny surface protrusions? sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup wrote: > > > Namaskar to All, > > > > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of > collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; > > > > * Max Size > * Max spherical shape > * Max weight > * Natural hole through bead > * Bright, attractive even color > * Lustre (shine) > * Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead > * Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) > popular?) > * Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls > * Emit positive vibrations > > Anything else? [:-?] > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Ole Alstrup > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Surya, I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size, cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND POWER!!! I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality. That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!! Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Namaste Ole, > > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc. > > Please explain why, if you don't mind. > > Thanks, > > Surya > - > alstrup > sacred-objects > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM > Rudraksha bead quality > > > > Namaskar to All, > > > > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; > > > > a.. Max Size > b.. Max spherical shape > c.. Max weight > d.. Natural hole through bead > e.. Bright, attractive even color > f.. Lustre (shine) > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) popular?) > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls > j.. Emit positive vibrations > Anything else? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Ole Alstrup > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Richard, I would agree with you on your points. Sometimes a natural looking hole is difficult to ascertain. Hardness is a good thing. Not as much of a chance of it being chewed up inside by insects. Clear muhkis are also good, of course. But sometimes it is not always the case. Especially in GS beads, towards the inner faces. But I also would gladly pay more for better quality. But Shakti is something else, as you pointed out. The look doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Shakti. Jai Maa! Bom Mahadev! Surya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Namaste: Has been my understanding that "dry" rudraksha are older rudraksha that have not been cared for properly. Have never met a rudraksha bead that has NOT emitted positive vibration :-) Am right now looking at very sweet 12 mukhi who lives on my hard drive and he is this fantastic two tone color. Really think "multi colored beads" are quite nice & to my knowledge, not that common. Also have noticed that the very high faceted beads that I have seen are usually oblong rather that spherical. What has anybody else seen ??? Take Care. Ariel sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Surya, > > I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think > "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are > many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size, > cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND > POWER!!! > > I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I > prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY > to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc > etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality. > > That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high > quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I > prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!! > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste Ole, > > > > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why > you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even > size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc. > > > > Please explain why, if you don't mind. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Surya > > - > > alstrup > > sacred-objects > > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM > > Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > Namaskar to All, > > > > > > > > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of > collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; > > > > > > > > a.. Max Size > > b.. Max spherical shape > > c.. Max weight > > d.. Natural hole through bead > > e.. Bright, attractive even color > > f.. Lustre (shine) > > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead > > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) > popular?) > > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls > > j.. Emit positive vibrations > > Anything else? > > > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > Ole Alstrup > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Hi Surya, Both Shiva Purana and Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad state more or less the same: "Rudraksha with a natural hole is of best quality. Rudraksha with a hole made by human efforts is of medium quality." So what is the definition of a natural hole should certainly be discussed. What is interesting is that all Nepali rudraksha have natural hole where any residual soft pulp matter inside the hole (as it is not sealed/obstructed) can be easily pushed out by a tooth pick, apart from 4, 5, 6 mukhi, where I am told most beads have a strong seal on the bottom of the beads for which a drill machine is needed to remove this. True? I beleve the natural hole beads are easy to dentify as the holes are not even around the edges, while those which have been drilled have an almost perfect circular polished hole through the bead in each end, while the natural holes are round at the mouth and elongated in the tail. What do you think? As it is getting late here, I will get back later and write more about the other aspects. Looking forward to other inputs on this, Thanks, Ole Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Surya, I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size, cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND POWER!!! I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality. That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!! Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Namaste Ole, > > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc. > > Please explain why, if you don't mind. > > Thanks, > > Surya > - > alstrup > sacred-objects > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM > Rudraksha bead quality > > > > Namaskar to All, > > > > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; > > > > a.. Max Size > b.. Max spherical shape > c.. Max weight > d.. Natural hole through bead > e.. Bright, attractive even color > f.. Lustre (shine) > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) popular?) > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls > j.. Emit positive vibrations > Anything else? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Ole Alstrup > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Surya and Richard Prabhus, I just realized I made a mistake when I wrote about desired spherical shape of beads, what I meant to say all along was actually circular. Here is a shastric reference about the importance of circular shape from the Seventh Chapter of the Eleventh Book on the greatness of one faced, etc., Rudrâksam in the Mahâ Purânam S’rî Mad Devî Bhâgavatam of 18,000 verses by Mahârsi Veda Vyâsa. "Those Rudrâksa seeds that are nicely circular, smooth, hard, and whose thorns or points are distinctly visible, are the best. Those that are pierced by insects, broken in parts, whose thorns are not clearly visible, with swells and holes and those that are coated over, these six varieties of Rudrâksams are faulty. Those Rudrâksams that have their holes by nature running through and through are best; and those that base their holes pierced by men are middling. The Rudrâksa seeds that are all of uniform shape, bright, hard, and beautifully circular should be strung together by a silken thread." More later... Thanks, Ole Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Hi Surya, Both Shiva Purana and Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad state more or less the same: "Rudraksha with a natural hole is of best quality. Rudraksha with a hole made by human efforts is of medium quality." So what is the definition of a natural hole should certainly be discussed. What is interesting is that all Nepali rudraksha have natural hole where any residual soft pulp matter inside the hole (as it is not sealed/obstructed) can be easily pushed out by a tooth pick, apart from 4, 5, 6 mukhi, where I am told most beads have a strong seal on the bottom of the beads for which a drill machine is needed to remove this. True? I beleve the natural hole beads are easy to dentify as the holes are not even around the edges, while those which have been drilled have an almost perfect circular polished hole through the bead in each end, while the natural holes are round at the mouth and elongated in the tail. What do you think? As it is getting late here, I will get back later and write more about the other aspects. Looking forward to other inputs on this, Thanks, Ole Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Surya, I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size, cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND POWER!!! I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality. That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!! Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Namaste Ole, > > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc. > > Please explain why, if you don't mind. > > Thanks, > > Surya > - > alstrup > sacred-objects > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM > Rudraksha bead quality > > > > Namaskar to All, > > > > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; > > > > a.. Max Size > b.. Max spherical shape > c.. Max weight > d.. Natural hole through bead > e.. Bright, attractive even color > f.. Lustre (shine) > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) popular?) > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls > j.. Emit positive vibrations > Anything else? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Ole Alstrup > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine The all-new Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? ---Dear Ann, Some say Mustard Oil... But as Lord Shiva wears Moon on His head so Moon Oil or Sandal Wood Oil, such as from Mysore, is my favorite. There is no oil equal to Sandal Wood oil in auspiciousness. I buy my oil from Ms. Neeta of Rudra Center in Bombay...she has the PURE oil. Please contact her to get some. All the best, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. Surya - alphanov2 (AT) aol (DOT) com sacred-objects Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 As for even size mukhi facets all around bead, it can be observed in higher mukhi beads typically above 8-mukhi that this has a direct impact on the circular shape of the bead. If size of mukhi facets is not well proportioned, the bead will naturally develop an oblong shape, from the number of mukhi facets being higher in two opposite ends of the bead and less in the other ends. This is very quickly observed in higher mukhi beads. It is evident that that higher mukhi beads with circular shape are much more rare than the typical oblong shape . Also it is not very desirable to have very thin mukhi facets in a bead, as no protrusions can be found on a mukhi facet which is basically an edge. I have always found the circular shape to be naturally more attractive than oblong, but agree that oblong shaped beads can definitely emanate more shakthi than circular beads. But the other aspects of the bead quality from the criteria list is also affecting this directly. If you have ever owned a giant size bead with fulfills all the criteria listed, you will definitely know what I mean. I am very fortunate to own a 12 mukhi bead in this category... sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote: > > Dear Surya and Richard Prabhus, > > I just realized I made a mistake when I wrote about desired spherical shape of beads, what I meant to say all along was actually circular. > > Here is a shastric reference about the importance of circular shape from the Seventh Chapter of the Eleventh Book on the greatness of one faced, etc., Rudrâksam in the Mahâ Purânam S'rî Mad Devî Bhâgavatam of 18,000 verses by Mahârsi Veda Vyâsa. > > "Those Rudrâksa seeds that are nicely circular, smooth, hard, and whose thorns or points are distinctly visible, are the best. Those that are pierced by insects, broken in parts, whose thorns are not clearly visible, with swells and holes and those that are coated over, these six varieties of Rudrâksams are faulty. Those Rudrâksams that have their holes by nature running through and through are best; and those that base their holes pierced by men are middling. The Rudrâksa seeds that are all of uniform shape, bright, hard, and beautifully circular should be strung together by a silken thread." > > More later... > > Thanks, > > Ole > > > Ole Alstrup alstrup wrote: > Hi Surya, > > Both Shiva Purana and Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad state more or less the same: "Rudraksha with a natural hole is of best quality. Rudraksha with a hole made by human efforts is of medium quality." > So what is the definition of a natural hole should certainly be discussed. > What is interesting is that all Nepali rudraksha have natural hole where any residual soft pulp matter inside the hole (as it is not sealed/obstructed) can be easily pushed out by a tooth pick, apart from 4, 5, 6 mukhi, where I am told most beads have a strong seal on the bottom of the beads for which a drill machine is needed to remove this. True? I beleve the natural hole beads are easy to dentify as the holes are not even around the edges, while those which have been drilled have an almost perfect circular polished hole through the bead in each end, while the natural holes are round at the mouth and elongated in the tail. What do you think? > > As it is getting late here, I will get back later and write more about the other aspects. > > Looking forward to other inputs on this, > > Thanks, > > Ole > > Richard Shaw-Brown rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Surya, > > I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think > "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are > many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size, > cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND > POWER!!! > > I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I > prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY > to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc > etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality. > > That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high > quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I > prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!! > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" mahamuni@ > wrote: > > > > Namaste Ole, > > > > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why > you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even > size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc. > > > > Please explain why, if you don't mind. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Surya > > - > > alstrup > > sacred-objects > > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM > > Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > Namaskar to All, > > > > > > > > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of > collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads; > > > > > > > > a.. Max Size > > b.. Max spherical shape > > c.. Max weight > > d.. Natural hole through bead > > e.. Bright, attractive even color > > f.. Lustre (shine) > > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead > > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) > popular?) > > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls > > j.. Emit positive vibrations > > Anything else? > > > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > Ole Alstrup > > > > > > > > > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine > > > > The all-new Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect. There should definitely be done some research on this topic. Ole sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > Surya > > - > alphanov2 > sacred-objects > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Dear Sir, Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil usually and keep them soaked in oil. Regards, Alok sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup wrote: > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect. > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > > > Ole > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > wrote: > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > Surya > > > > - > > alphanov2@ > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I don't think any of it will be a problem. That is my firm opinion. These are the pits of a fruit. Soaking them is only to saturate them with oil. Oil is pure fat. It will not harm the longevity of the bead. Surya - alstrup sacred-objects Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:56 AM Re: Rudraksha bead quality Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect. There should definitely be done some research on this topic. Ole sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > Surya > > - > alphanov2 > sacred-objects > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Alok Ji, Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I raised the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the beneficial antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong smell. But I have no actual experience. As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled down? What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of? Thanks, ~Ole sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil > usually and keep them soaked in oil. > > Regards, > > Alok > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote: > > > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in > use in > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood > of the > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard > oil is > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, > perhaps > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation > effect. > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil > is > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a > quick > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely > my > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day > soak, I > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > - > > > alphanov2@ > > > sacred-objects > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Surya, Its not that simple, as oils contain different ratios of fatty acids. These are either saturated, monounsaturated or polyunsaturated. Then there are other compounds in an oil that also has an effect. Wood is a natural material which reacts in different ways when exposed to oils. Polyunsaturated fatty acids will oxidize quickly when exposed to air, heat and light. This could potentially harm the longevity if the bead. Olive and mustard seed oil has a lot of monounsaturated fatty acids. But the oils have different effects, mustard seed oil is more drying than olive oil. Heating/cooking an oil will also change its effects, a good example is linseed oil base for paint. I am no expert in the field of how oils affect wood, especially Rudraksha beads, that is why I am interested to know more about the reasons for the traditional use of certain oils to preserve Rudraksha beads. And since there is no traditional use of olive oil in India for Rudraksha, hence my caution to use it for beads. Thanks, Ole sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > I don't think any of it will be a problem. That is my firm opinion. These are the pits of a fruit. > > Soaking them is only to saturate them with oil. Oil is pure fat. It will not harm the longevity of the bead. > > Surya > - > alstrup > sacred-objects > Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:56 AM > Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect. > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > Ole > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" mahamuni@ > wrote: > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > Surya > > > > - > > alphanov2@ > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Yes, they do have different ratios of fatty acids, but I don't think that this fact applies to their external use with rudraksha. Olive oil was not cultivated and used in India, so of course there is no tradition with it. Mustard oil was and is. I have had no problems. Surya - alstrup sacred-objects Friday, August 18, 2006 5:15 PM Re: Rudraksha bead quality Surya, Its not that simple, as oils contain different ratios of fatty acids. These are either saturated, monounsaturated or polyunsaturated. Then there are other compounds in an oil that also has an effect. Wood is a natural material which reacts in different ways when exposed to oils. Polyunsaturated fatty acids will oxidize quickly when exposed to air, heat and light. This could potentially harm the longevity if the bead. Olive and mustard seed oil has a lot of monounsaturated fatty acids. But the oils have different effects, mustard seed oil is more drying than olive oil. Heating/cooking an oil will also change its effects, a good example is linseed oil base for paint. I am no expert in the field of how oils affect wood, especially Rudraksha beads, that is why I am interested to know more about the reasons for the traditional use of certain oils to preserve Rudraksha beads. And since there is no traditional use of olive oil in India for Rudraksha, hence my caution to use it for beads. Thanks, Ole sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > I don't think any of it will be a problem. That is my firm opinion. These are the pits of a fruit. > > Soaking them is only to saturate them with oil. Oil is pure fat. It will not harm the longevity of the bead. > > Surya > - > alstrup > sacred-objects > Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:56 AM > Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect. > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > Ole > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" mahamuni@ > wrote: > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > Surya > > > > - > > alphanov2@ > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Ole, Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha. Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties. 'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar. With best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Dear Alok Ji, Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I raised the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the beneficial antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong smell. But I have no actual experience. As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled down? What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of? Thanks, ~Ole sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil > usually and keep them soaked in oil. > > Regards, > > Alok > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote: > > > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in > use in > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood > of the > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard > oil is > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, > perhaps > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation > effect. > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil > is > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a > quick > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely > my > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day > soak, I > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > - > > > alphanov2@ > > > sacred-objects > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Chandrashekharji, Thank you for the info, it is always nice to get your educated views in these matters. Do you consider Mustard oil to be better for beads than Sesame oil? Should the Sesame oil be cured first, as is recommended when it is prepared as ayurvedic massage oil? (This to give it higher absorption rate) What is your insights about antimicrobial/antifungal properties of pure Sandalwood oil compared to other oils? As it so happens, I just received some fresh beads back from puja in India, some of them had developed some fresh external white fungus, because they had been wrapped in moist bilva leaves and inside a sealed plastic bag. I imediately soaked/cleaned beads with pure soapy water and toothbrush and soaked/flushed with clean water, also shaking the beads to get as much water out from inside beads. They are now clean. Then they have dried in air for some days with a towel underneath. Now I need to soak them in oil. I have organic sesame oil, but only enough pure sandal wood for external coating. Should I soak overnight in sesame oil first, then sun-dry and then apply sandalwood oil? How long should beads dry in sun? What if there is no useful sunlight? Thanking you as always for your insights in these matters, ~ Ole sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Dear Ole, > > Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha. > > Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties. 'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar. > > With best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > alstrup alstrup wrote: > > Dear Alok Ji, > > Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I raised > the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the beneficial > antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure > this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong > smell. But I have no actual experience. > > As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific > preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil > need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled > down? > > What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of? > > Thanks, > > ~Ole > > sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" a_jagawat@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation > > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for > > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some > > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil > > usually and keep them soaked in oil. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > > > > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in > > use in > > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood > > of the > > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard > > oil is > > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, > > perhaps > > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation > > effect. > > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil > > is > > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a > > quick > > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely > > my > > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day > > soak, I > > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > - > > > > alphanov2@ > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Dear Ole, Thank you very much for your mail. I am of the opinion that the Sandle Wood oil may be better than that of the Sesame oil due to its strong fragnance to protect beads mainly from insects attack. Shelf life of Sandle Oil is more than that of Sesame/Mustard/Oilive Oil. Rudraksha are likely to absorb more quantity of Sandle Wood oil due to its woody nature. The best way is to soak rudraksha with any oil having antimicrobial and insecticidal properties overnight and after drying thoroughly to apply sandle wood oil externally being expensive. Sesame Oil has similar chemical properties to that of Olive Oil (Unsaponifable properties). Mustard Oil, Seasame Oil and Coconut Oil are known to have antimicrobial properties. Coconut Oil has more shelf life than that of sesame or mustard oil. However, I do not have any idea about the comparative data of Mustard and Sesame Oil. The insect attack on beads is more serious than fungi. In tropical climate like India, tiny beetles is the major problem for Rudraksha. These beetles can easily drill holes in hard rudraksha stone (fruit) damaging the bead. The best way to avoid these beetles is to keep rudraksha mala in airy place. In temperate country like yours, beetles may not be the problem, however, tiny mites may spoil the bead. Mites carry fungus spores with them. Of course, mites are not that serious than beetles as far as rudraksha are concerned. In temperate countries, there is no strong Sunlight. In such cases, one can store Rudraksha beads with 'Silica Gel' bags to absorb moisture from microclimate of the beads. Thanking you and with best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji, Thank you for the info, it is always nice to get your educated views in these matters. Do you consider Mustard oil to be better for beads than Sesame oil? Should the Sesame oil be cured first, as is recommended when it is prepared as ayurvedic massage oil? (This to give it higher absorption rate) What is your insights about antimicrobial/antifungal properties of pure Sandalwood oil compared to other oils? As it so happens, I just received some fresh beads back from puja in India, some of them had developed some fresh external white fungus, because they had been wrapped in moist bilva leaves and inside a sealed plastic bag. I imediately soaked/cleaned beads with pure soapy water and toothbrush and soaked/flushed with clean water, also shaking the beads to get as much water out from inside beads. They are now clean. Then they have dried in air for some days with a towel underneath. Now I need to soak them in oil. I have organic sesame oil, but only enough pure sandal wood for external coating. Should I soak overnight in sesame oil first, then sun-dry and then apply sandalwood oil? How long should beads dry in sun? What if there is no useful sunlight? Thanking you as always for your insights in these matters, ~ Ole sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Dear Ole, > > Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha. > > Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties. 'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar. > > With best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > alstrup alstrup wrote: > > Dear Alok Ji, > > Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I raised > the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the beneficial > antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure > this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong > smell. But I have no actual experience. > > As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific > preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil > need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled > down? > > What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of? > > Thanks, > > ~Ole > > sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" a_jagawat@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation > > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for > > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some > > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil > > usually and keep them soaked in oil. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > > > > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in > > use in > > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood > > of the > > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard > > oil is > > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, > > perhaps > > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation > > effect. > > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil > > is > > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a > > quick > > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely > > my > > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day > > soak, I > > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > - > > > > alphanov2@ > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Dear Chandrashekharji, Unfortunately I dont have enough pure Sandalwood oil here right now to soak all my new beads after the soap/brush/ water cleaning. Will it suffice to oil the beads on the surface? What is the advantage of soaking, that the oil penetrates deep into the bead? If so, for how long should the beads be soaked for best effect? I do have the sesame oil, but I am worried that the beads will assimilate the sesame smell and I want to avoid that. What do you think? Input from others with practical experience of this is highly welcome! Thanks, Ole sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Dear Ole, > > Thank you very much for your mail. I am of the opinion that the Sandle Wood oil may be better than that of the Sesame oil due to its strong fragnance to protect beads mainly from insects attack. Shelf life of Sandle Oil is more than that of Sesame/Mustard/Oilive Oil. Rudraksha are likely to absorb more quantity of Sandle Wood oil due to its woody nature. The best way is to soak rudraksha with any oil having antimicrobial and insecticidal properties overnight and after drying thoroughly to apply sandle wood oil externally being expensive. > > Sesame Oil has similar chemical properties to that of Olive Oil (Unsaponifable properties). Mustard Oil, Seasame Oil and Coconut Oil are known to have antimicrobial properties. Coconut Oil has more shelf life than that of sesame or mustard oil. However, I do not have any idea about the comparative data of Mustard and Sesame Oil. > > The insect attack on beads is more serious than fungi. In tropical climate like India, tiny beetles is the major problem for Rudraksha. These beetles can easily drill holes in hard rudraksha stone (fruit) damaging the bead. The best way to avoid these beetles is to keep rudraksha mala in airy place. In temperate country like yours, beetles may not be the problem, however, tiny mites may spoil the bead. Mites carry fungus spores with them. Of course, mites are not that serious than beetles as far as rudraksha are concerned. > > In temperate countries, there is no strong Sunlight. In such cases, one can store Rudraksha beads with 'Silica Gel' bags to absorb moisture from microclimate of the beads. > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > alstrup alstrup wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > Thank you for the info, it is always nice to get your educated views in > these matters. Do you consider Mustard oil to be better for beads than > Sesame oil? Should the Sesame oil be cured first, as is recommended when > it is prepared as ayurvedic massage oil? (This to give it higher > absorption rate) What is your insights about antimicrobial/antifungal > properties of pure Sandalwood oil compared to other oils? > > As it so happens, I just received some fresh beads back from puja in > India, some of them had developed some fresh external white fungus, > because they had been wrapped in moist bilva leaves and inside a sealed > plastic bag. I imediately soaked/cleaned beads with pure soapy water and > toothbrush and soaked/flushed with clean water, also shaking the beads > to get as much water out from inside beads. They are now clean. Then > they have dried in air for some days with a towel underneath. Now I need > to soak them in oil. I have organic sesame oil, but only enough pure > sandal wood for external coating. Should I soak overnight in sesame oil > first, then sun-dry and then apply sandalwood oil? How long should beads > dry in sun? What if there is no useful sunlight? > > Thanking you as always for your insights in these matters, > > ~ Ole > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke > chphadke@ wrote: > > > > Dear Ole, > > > > Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very > strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets > polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and > therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha. > > > > Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to > give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is > the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties. > 'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed > to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual > practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar. > > > > With best wishes, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > alstrup alstrup@ wrote: > > > > Dear Alok Ji, > > > > Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I > raised > > the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the > beneficial > > antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure > > this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong > > smell. But I have no actual experience. > > > > As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific > > preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil > > need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled > > down? > > > > What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of? > > > > Thanks, > > > > ~Ole > > > > sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" a_jagawat@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation > > > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for > > > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some > > > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil > > > usually and keep them soaked in oil. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Alok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons? > > > > > > > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in > > > use in > > > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood > > > of the > > > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard > > > oil is > > > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, > > > perhaps > > > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation > > > effect. > > > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil > > > is > > > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a > > > quick > > > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely > > > my > > > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day > > > soak, I > > > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent. > > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > alphanov2@ > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM > > > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. > Get it NOW > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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