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Namaskar to All,

 

I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

 

* Max Size

* Max spherical shape * Max weight * Natural hole through

bead * Bright, attractive even color * Lustre (shine) *

Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead * Mukhi facets with max

thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna ) popular?) * Deep seated mukhi

lines with unbroken mukhi line walls * Emit positive vibrations

 

Anything else? [:-?]

 

Many thanks,

 

Ole Alstrup

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On page 15 of his illustrious book "Power of Rudraksha", the venerable

founder of Rudra Centre, Shri Kamal Seetha, interestingly states that

"the surface of the genuine bead should not be over-thorny and should

have good hardness.

 

Any inputs about the issue of level of thorny surface protrusions?

 

 

sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup wrote:

>

>

> Namaskar to All,

>

>

>

> I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

> collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

>

>

>

> * Max Size

> * Max spherical shape

> * Max weight

> * Natural hole through bead

> * Bright, attractive even color

> * Lustre (shine)

> * Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead

> * Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna )

> popular?)

> * Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls

> * Emit positive vibrations

>

> Anything else? [:-?]

>

>

>

> Many thanks,

>

>

>

> Ole Alstrup

>

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Dear Surya,

 

I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think

"quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are

many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size,

cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND

POWER!!!

 

I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I

prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY

to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc

etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality.

 

That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high

quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I

prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!!

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> Namaste Ole,

>

> How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why

you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even

size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc.

>

> Please explain why, if you don't mind.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Surya

> -

> alstrup

> sacred-objects

> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM

> Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

>

> Namaskar to All,

>

>

>

> I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

>

>

>

> a.. Max Size

> b.. Max spherical shape

> c.. Max weight

> d.. Natural hole through bead

> e.. Bright, attractive even color

> f.. Lustre (shine)

> g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead

> h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna )

popular?)

> i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls

> j.. Emit positive vibrations

> Anything else?

>

>

>

> Many thanks,

>

>

>

> Ole Alstrup

>

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Dear Richard,

 

I would agree with you on your points. Sometimes a natural looking hole is difficult to ascertain.

 

Hardness is a good thing. Not as much of a chance of it being chewed up inside by insects.

 

Clear muhkis are also good, of course. But sometimes it is not always the case. Especially in GS beads, towards the inner faces.

 

But I also would gladly pay more for better quality. But Shakti is something else, as you pointed out. The look doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Shakti.

 

Jai Maa! Bom Mahadev!

 

Surya

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Namaste:

 

Has been my understanding that "dry" rudraksha are older rudraksha

that have not been cared for properly.

 

Have never met a rudraksha bead that has NOT emitted positive

vibration :-)

 

Am right now looking at very sweet 12 mukhi who lives on my hard

drive and he is this fantastic two tone color. Really think "multi

colored beads" are quite nice & to my knowledge, not that common.

 

Also have noticed that the very high faceted beads that I have seen

are usually oblong rather that spherical. What has anybody else

seen ???

 

Take Care.

 

Ariel

 

 

sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown"

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Dear Surya,

>

> I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think

> "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there

are

> many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size,

> cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price,

AND

> POWER!!!

>

> I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking

ones; I

> prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very

EASY

> to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc

> etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality.

>

> That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high

> quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I

> prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!!

>

> Best rgds,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Ole,

> >

> > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why

> you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even

> size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc.

> >

> > Please explain why, if you don't mind.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Surya

> > -

> > alstrup

> > sacred-objects

> > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM

> > Rudraksha bead quality

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaskar to All,

> >

> >

> >

> > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

> collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

> >

> >

> >

> > a.. Max Size

> > b.. Max spherical shape

> > c.. Max weight

> > d.. Natural hole through bead

> > e.. Bright, attractive even color

> > f.. Lustre (shine)

> > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead

> > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads

(chikna )

> popular?)

> > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls

> > j.. Emit positive vibrations

> > Anything else?

> >

> >

> >

> > Many thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> > Ole Alstrup

> >

>

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Hi Surya,

Both Shiva Purana and Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad state more or less the same: "Rudraksha with a natural hole is of best quality. Rudraksha with a hole made by human efforts is of medium quality."

So what is the definition of a natural hole should certainly be discussed.

What is interesting is that all Nepali rudraksha have natural hole where any residual soft pulp matter inside the hole (as it is not sealed/obstructed) can be easily pushed out by a tooth pick, apart from 4, 5, 6 mukhi, where I am told most beads have a strong seal on the bottom of the beads for which a drill machine is needed to remove this. True? I beleve the natural hole beads are easy to dentify as the holes are not even around the edges, while those which have been drilled have an almost perfect circular polished hole through the bead in each end, while the natural holes are round at the mouth and elongated in the tail. What do you think?

 

As it is getting late here, I will get back later and write more about the other aspects.

Looking forward to other inputs on this,

Thanks,

Ole

Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

Dear Surya,

 

I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think

"quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are

many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size,

cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND

POWER!!!

 

I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I

prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY

to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc

etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality.

 

That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high

quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I

prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!!

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> Namaste Ole,

>

> How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why

you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even

size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc.

>

> Please explain why, if you don't mind.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Surya

> -

> alstrup

> sacred-objects

> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM

> Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

>

> Namaskar to All,

>

>

>

> I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

>

>

>

> a.. Max Size

> b.. Max spherical shape

> c.. Max weight

> d.. Natural hole through bead

> e.. Bright, attractive even color

> f.. Lustre (shine)

> g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead

> h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna )

popular?)

> i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls

> j.. Emit positive vibrations

> Anything else?

>

>

>

> Many thanks,

>

>

>

> Ole Alstrup

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Surya and Richard Prabhus,

I just realized I made a mistake when I wrote about desired spherical shape of beads, what I meant to say all along was actually circular.

Here is a shastric reference about the importance of circular shape from the Seventh Chapter of the Eleventh Book on the greatness of one faced, etc., Rudrâksam in the Mahâ Purânam S’rî Mad Devî Bhâgavatam of 18,000 verses by Mahârsi Veda Vyâsa.

 

"Those Rudrâksa seeds that are nicely circular, smooth, hard, and whose thorns or points are distinctly visible, are the best. Those that are pierced by insects, broken in parts, whose thorns are not clearly visible, with swells and holes and those that are coated over, these six varieties of Rudrâksams are faulty. Those Rudrâksams that have their holes by nature running through and through are best; and those that base their holes pierced by men are middling. The Rudrâksa seeds that are all of uniform shape, bright, hard, and beautifully circular should be strung together by a silken thread."

More later...

Thanks,

Ole

 

Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote:

Hi Surya,

Both Shiva Purana and Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad state more or less the same: "Rudraksha with a natural hole is of best quality. Rudraksha with a hole made by human efforts is of medium quality."

So what is the definition of a natural hole should certainly be discussed.

What is interesting is that all Nepali rudraksha have natural hole where any residual soft pulp matter inside the hole (as it is not sealed/obstructed) can be easily pushed out by a tooth pick, apart from 4, 5, 6 mukhi, where I am told most beads have a strong seal on the bottom of the beads for which a drill machine is needed to remove this. True? I beleve the natural hole beads are easy to dentify as the holes are not even around the edges, while those which have been drilled have an almost perfect circular polished hole through the bead in each end, while the natural holes are round at the mouth and elongated in the tail. What do you think?

 

As it is getting late here, I will get back later and write more about the other aspects.

Looking forward to other inputs on this,

Thanks,

Ole

Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

Dear Surya,

 

I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think

"quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are

many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size,

cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND

POWER!!!

 

I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I

prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY

to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc

etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality.

 

That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high

quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I

prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!!

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> Namaste Ole,

>

> How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why

you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even

size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc.

>

> Please explain why, if you don't mind.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Surya

> -

> alstrup

> sacred-objects

> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM

> Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

>

> Namaskar to All,

>

>

>

> I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

>

>

>

> a.. Max Size

> b.. Max spherical shape

> c.. Max weight

> d.. Natural hole through bead

> e.. Bright, attractive even color

> f.. Lustre (shine)

> g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead

> h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna )

popular?)

> i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls

> j.. Emit positive vibrations

> Anything else?

>

>

>

> Many thanks,

>

>

>

> Ole Alstrup

>

 

 

 

 

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What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

 

---Dear Ann,

 

Some say Mustard Oil... But as Lord Shiva wears Moon on His head so Moon Oil or Sandal Wood Oil, such as from Mysore, is my favorite. There is no oil equal to Sandal Wood oil in auspiciousness. I buy my oil from Ms. Neeta of Rudra Center in Bombay...she has the PURE oil. Please contact her to get some.

 

All the best, Richard

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Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

 

Surya

 

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As for even size mukhi facets all around bead, it can be observed in

higher mukhi beads typically above 8-mukhi that this has a direct impact

on the circular shape of the bead. If size of mukhi facets is not well

proportioned, the bead will naturally develop an oblong shape, from the

number of mukhi facets being higher in two opposite ends of the bead and

less in the other ends. This is very quickly observed in higher mukhi

beads. It is evident that that higher mukhi beads with circular shape

are much more rare than the typical oblong shape . Also it is not very

desirable to have very thin mukhi facets in a bead, as no protrusions

can be found on a mukhi facet which is basically an edge. I have always

found the circular shape to be naturally more attractive than oblong,

but agree that oblong shaped beads can definitely emanate more shakthi

than circular beads. But the other aspects of the bead quality from the

criteria list is also affecting this directly. If you have ever owned

a giant size bead with fulfills all the criteria listed, you will

definitely know what I mean. I am very fortunate to own a 12 mukhi bead

in this category...

 

 

sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote:

>

> Dear Surya and Richard Prabhus,

>

> I just realized I made a mistake when I wrote about desired spherical

shape of beads, what I meant to say all along was actually circular.

>

> Here is a shastric reference about the importance of circular shape

from the Seventh Chapter of the Eleventh Book on the greatness of one

faced, etc., Rudrâksam in the Mahâ Purânam S'rî Mad

Devî Bhâgavatam of 18,000 verses by Mahârsi Veda Vyâsa.

>

> "Those Rudrâksa seeds that are nicely circular, smooth, hard, and

whose thorns or points are distinctly visible, are the best. Those that

are pierced by insects, broken in parts, whose thorns are not clearly

visible, with swells and holes and those that are coated over, these six

varieties of Rudrâksams are faulty. Those Rudrâksams that have

their holes by nature running through and through are best; and those

that base their holes pierced by men are middling. The Rudrâksa seeds

that are all of uniform shape, bright, hard, and beautifully circular

should be strung together by a silken thread."

>

> More later...

>

> Thanks,

>

> Ole

>

>

> Ole Alstrup alstrup wrote:

> Hi Surya,

>

> Both Shiva Purana and Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad state more or less

the same: "Rudraksha with a natural hole is of best quality. Rudraksha

with a hole made by human efforts is of medium quality."

> So what is the definition of a natural hole should certainly be

discussed.

> What is interesting is that all Nepali rudraksha have natural hole

where any residual soft pulp matter inside the hole (as it is not

sealed/obstructed) can be easily pushed out by a tooth pick, apart from

4, 5, 6 mukhi, where I am told most beads have a strong seal on the

bottom of the beads for which a drill machine is needed to remove this.

True? I beleve the natural hole beads are easy to dentify as the holes

are not even around the edges, while those which have been drilled have

an almost perfect circular polished hole through the bead in each end,

while the natural holes are round at the mouth and elongated in the

tail. What do you think?

>

> As it is getting late here, I will get back later and write more about

the other aspects.

>

> Looking forward to other inputs on this,

>

> Thanks,

>

> Ole

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown rsbj66 wrote:

> Dear Surya,

>

> I am also interested to know what is Ole's reply to you. But I think

> "quality" is an obvious consideration in EVERYTHING. In gems there are

> many considerations, like clarity, color purity, brilliance, size,

> cutting correctness and angles,...all these aspects effect price, AND

> POWER!!!

>

> I also appreciate the "shiny" Rudraksha over the "dry" looking ones; I

> prefer the heavier, harder body, I prefer to have the mukhis very EASY

> to count and evenly seperated. I prefer a natural looking hole, etc

> etc... AND, I'll pay much more for such a superior quality.

>

> That doesn't mean that I think the power of low quality and high

> quality is different!... they are the same in shakti... STILL, I

> prefer highest quality... IN EVERYTHING!!!

>

> Best rgds,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" mahamuni@

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Ole,

> >

> > How will you know if it is a natural hole? Also I am not sure why

> you feel some of these other criteria are even important, like even

> size mukhi facets, spherical shape, etc.

> >

> > Please explain why, if you don't mind.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Surya

> > -

> > alstrup

> > sacred-objects

> > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:41 PM

> > Rudraksha bead quality

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaskar to All,

> >

> >

> >

> > I put together a draft with criteria points for evaluation of

> collector-quality variety of genuine Rudraksha beads;

> >

> >

> >

> > a.. Max Size

> > b.. Max spherical shape

> > c.. Max weight

> > d.. Natural hole through bead

> > e.. Bright, attractive even color

> > f.. Lustre (shine)

> > g.. Evenly size mukhi facets all around bead

> > h.. Mukhi facets with max thorns (why are smooth beads (chikna )

> popular?)

> > i.. Deep seated mukhi lines with unbroken mukhi line walls

> > j.. Emit positive vibrations

> > Anything else?

> >

> >

> >

> > Many thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> > Ole Alstrup

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity

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Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

 

I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in

India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the

beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is

traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps

the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect.

There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

 

 

 

Ole

 

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is

used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick

fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my

favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I

use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

>

> Surya

>

> -

> alphanov2

> sacred-objects

> Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

> What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

>

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Dear Sir,

 

Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation

and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for

the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some

" Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil

usually and keep them soaked in oil.

 

Regards,

 

Alok

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup wrote:

>

>

> Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

>

> I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in

use in

> India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood

of the

> beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard

oil is

> traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil,

perhaps

> the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation

effect.

> There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

>

>

>

> Ole

>

>

> sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil

is

> used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a

quick

> fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely

my

> favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day

soak, I

> use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> >

> > Surya

> >

> > -

> > alphanov2@

> > sacred-objects

> > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> >

> >

> > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> >

>

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I don't think any of it will be a problem. That is my firm opinion. These are the pits of a fruit.

 

Soaking them is only to saturate them with oil. Oil is pure fat. It will not harm the longevity of the bead.

 

Surya

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sacred-objects

Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:56 AM

Re: Rudraksha bead quality

 

 

 

Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

 

I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use in

India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of the

beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is

traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps

the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect.

There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

 

Ole

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is

used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick

fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my

favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I

use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

>

> Surya

>

> -

> alphanov2

> sacred-objects

> Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

> What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

>

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Dear Alok Ji,

 

Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I raised

the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the beneficial

antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure

this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong

smell. But I have no actual experience.

 

As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific

preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil

need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled

down?

 

What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of?

 

Thanks,

 

~Ole

 

sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation

> and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for

> the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some

> " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil

> usually and keep them soaked in oil.

>

> Regards,

>

> Alok

>

sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

> >

> > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in

> use in

> > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood

> of the

> > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard

> oil is

> > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil,

> perhaps

> > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation

> effect.

> > There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ole

> >

> >

> > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil

> is

> > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a

> quick

> > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely

> my

> > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day

> soak, I

> > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> > >

> > > Surya

> > >

> > > -

> > > alphanov2@

> > > sacred-objects

> > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> > >

> > >

> > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> > >

> >

>

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Surya,

 

Its not that simple, as oils contain different ratios of fatty acids.

These are either saturated, monounsaturated or polyunsaturated. Then

there are other compounds in an oil that also has an effect. Wood is a

natural material which reacts in different ways when exposed to oils.

Polyunsaturated fatty acids will oxidize quickly when exposed to air,

heat and light. This could potentially harm the longevity if the bead.

Olive and mustard seed oil has a lot of monounsaturated fatty acids. But

the oils have different effects, mustard seed oil is more drying than

olive oil. Heating/cooking an oil will also change its effects, a good

example is linseed oil base for paint. I am no expert in the field of

how oils affect wood, especially Rudraksha beads, that is why I am

interested to know more about the reasons for the traditional use of

certain oils to preserve Rudraksha beads. And since there is no

traditional use of olive oil in India for Rudraksha, hence my caution to

use it for beads.

 

Thanks,

 

Ole

 

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> I don't think any of it will be a problem. That is my firm opinion.

These are the pits of a fruit.

>

> Soaking them is only to saturate them with oil. Oil is pure fat. It

will not harm the longevity of the bead.

>

> Surya

> -

> alstrup

> sacred-objects

> Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:56 AM

> Re: Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

>

> Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

>

> I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use

in

> India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of

the

> beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is

> traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps

> the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect.

> There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

>

> Ole

>

> sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" mahamuni@

> wrote:

> >

> > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is

> used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick

> fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my

> favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I

> use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> >

> > Surya

> >

> > -

> > alphanov2@

> > sacred-objects

> > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> >

> >

> > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> >

>

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Yes, they do have different ratios of fatty acids, but I don't think that this fact applies to their external use with rudraksha. Olive oil was not cultivated and used in India, so of course there is no tradition with it. Mustard oil was and is.

 

I have had no problems.

 

Surya

 

-

alstrup

sacred-objects

Friday, August 18, 2006 5:15 PM

Re: Rudraksha bead quality

 

 

Surya,

 

Its not that simple, as oils contain different ratios of fatty acids.

These are either saturated, monounsaturated or polyunsaturated. Then

there are other compounds in an oil that also has an effect. Wood is a

natural material which reacts in different ways when exposed to oils.

Polyunsaturated fatty acids will oxidize quickly when exposed to air,

heat and light. This could potentially harm the longevity if the bead.

Olive and mustard seed oil has a lot of monounsaturated fatty acids. But

the oils have different effects, mustard seed oil is more drying than

olive oil. Heating/cooking an oil will also change its effects, a good

example is linseed oil base for paint. I am no expert in the field of

how oils affect wood, especially Rudraksha beads, that is why I am

interested to know more about the reasons for the traditional use of

certain oils to preserve Rudraksha beads. And since there is no

traditional use of olive oil in India for Rudraksha, hence my caution to

use it for beads.

 

Thanks,

 

Ole

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> I don't think any of it will be a problem. That is my firm opinion.

These are the pits of a fruit.

>

> Soaking them is only to saturate them with oil. Oil is pure fat. It

will not harm the longevity of the bead.

>

> Surya

> -

> alstrup

> sacred-objects

> Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:56 AM

> Re: Rudraksha bead quality

>

>

>

> Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

>

> I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in use

in

> India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood of

the

> beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard oil is

> traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil, perhaps

> the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation effect.

> There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

>

> Ole

>

> sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" mahamuni@

> wrote:

> >

> > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil is

> used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a quick

> fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely my

> favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day soak, I

> use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> >

> > Surya

> >

> > -

> > alphanov2@

> > sacred-objects

> > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> >

> >

> > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> >

>

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Dear Ole,

Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha.

Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties. 'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar.

With best wishes,

Chandrashekhar Phadke

alstrup <alstrup > wrote:

Dear Alok Ji,

 

Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I raised

the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the beneficial

antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure

this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong

smell. But I have no actual experience.

 

As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific

preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil

need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled

down?

 

What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of?

 

Thanks,

 

~Ole

 

sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation

> and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for

> the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some

> " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil

> usually and keep them soaked in oil.

>

> Regards,

>

> Alok

>

sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

> >

> > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in

> use in

> > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood

> of the

> > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard

> oil is

> > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil,

> perhaps

> > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation

> effect.

> > There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ole

> >

> >

> > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil

> is

> > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a

> quick

> > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely

> my

> > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day

> soak, I

> > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> > >

> > > Surya

> > >

> > > -

> > > alphanov2@

> > > sacred-objects

> > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> > >

> > >

> > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Chandrashekharji,

 

Thank you for the info, it is always nice to get your educated views in

these matters. Do you consider Mustard oil to be better for beads than

Sesame oil? Should the Sesame oil be cured first, as is recommended when

it is prepared as ayurvedic massage oil? (This to give it higher

absorption rate) What is your insights about antimicrobial/antifungal

properties of pure Sandalwood oil compared to other oils?

 

As it so happens, I just received some fresh beads back from puja in

India, some of them had developed some fresh external white fungus,

because they had been wrapped in moist bilva leaves and inside a sealed

plastic bag. I imediately soaked/cleaned beads with pure soapy water and

toothbrush and soaked/flushed with clean water, also shaking the beads

to get as much water out from inside beads. They are now clean. Then

they have dried in air for some days with a towel underneath. Now I need

to soak them in oil. I have organic sesame oil, but only enough pure

sandal wood for external coating. Should I soak overnight in sesame oil

first, then sun-dry and then apply sandalwood oil? How long should beads

dry in sun? What if there is no useful sunlight?

 

Thanking you as always for your insights in these matters,

 

~ Ole

sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke

<chphadke wrote:

>

> Dear Ole,

>

> Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very

strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets

polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and

therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha.

>

> Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to

give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is

the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties.

'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed

to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual

practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar.

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Chandrashekhar Phadke

>

>

> alstrup alstrup wrote:

>

> Dear Alok Ji,

>

> Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I

raised

> the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the

beneficial

> antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure

> this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong

> smell. But I have no actual experience.

>

> As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific

> preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil

> need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled

> down?

>

> What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of?

>

> Thanks,

>

> ~Ole

>

> sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" a_jagawat@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation

> > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for

> > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some

> > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil

> > usually and keep them soaked in oil.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Alok

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

> > >

> > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in

> > use in

> > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood

> > of the

> > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard

> > oil is

> > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil,

> > perhaps

> > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation

> > effect.

> > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil

> > is

> > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a

> > quick

> > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely

> > my

> > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day

> > soak, I

> > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> > > >

> > > > Surya

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > alphanov2@

> > > > sacred-objects

> > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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Dear Ole,

Thank you very much for your mail. I am of the opinion that the Sandle Wood oil may be better than that of the Sesame oil due to its strong fragnance to protect beads mainly from insects attack. Shelf life of Sandle Oil is more than that of Sesame/Mustard/Oilive Oil. Rudraksha are likely to absorb more quantity of Sandle Wood oil due to its woody nature. The best way is to soak rudraksha with any oil having antimicrobial and insecticidal properties overnight and after drying thoroughly to apply sandle wood oil externally being expensive.

Sesame Oil has similar chemical properties to that of Olive Oil (Unsaponifable properties). Mustard Oil, Seasame Oil and Coconut Oil are known to have antimicrobial properties. Coconut Oil has more shelf life than that of sesame or mustard oil. However, I do not have any idea about the comparative data of Mustard and Sesame Oil.

The insect attack on beads is more serious than fungi. In tropical climate like India, tiny beetles is the major problem for Rudraksha. These beetles can easily drill holes in hard rudraksha stone (fruit) damaging the bead. The best way to avoid these beetles is to keep rudraksha mala in airy place. In temperate country like yours, beetles may not be the problem, however, tiny mites may spoil the bead. Mites carry fungus spores with them. Of course, mites are not that serious than beetles as far as rudraksha are concerned.

In temperate countries, there is no strong Sunlight. In such cases, one can store Rudraksha beads with 'Silica Gel' bags to absorb moisture from microclimate of the beads.

Thanking you and with best wishes,

Chandrashekhar Phadke

alstrup <alstrup > wrote:

Dear Chandrashekharji,

 

Thank you for the info, it is always nice to get your educated views in

these matters. Do you consider Mustard oil to be better for beads than

Sesame oil? Should the Sesame oil be cured first, as is recommended when

it is prepared as ayurvedic massage oil? (This to give it higher

absorption rate) What is your insights about antimicrobial/antifungal

properties of pure Sandalwood oil compared to other oils?

 

As it so happens, I just received some fresh beads back from puja in

India, some of them had developed some fresh external white fungus,

because they had been wrapped in moist bilva leaves and inside a sealed

plastic bag. I imediately soaked/cleaned beads with pure soapy water and

toothbrush and soaked/flushed with clean water, also shaking the beads

to get as much water out from inside beads. They are now clean. Then

they have dried in air for some days with a towel underneath. Now I need

to soak them in oil. I have organic sesame oil, but only enough pure

sandal wood for external coating. Should I soak overnight in sesame oil

first, then sun-dry and then apply sandalwood oil? How long should beads

dry in sun? What if there is no useful sunlight?

 

Thanking you as always for your insights in these matters,

 

~ Ole

sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke

<chphadke wrote:

>

> Dear Ole,

>

> Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very

strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets

polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and

therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha.

>

> Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to

give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)' is

the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal properties.

'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed

to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual

practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar.

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Chandrashekhar Phadke

>

>

> alstrup alstrup wrote:

>

> Dear Alok Ji,

>

> Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I

raised

> the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the

beneficial

> antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not sure

> this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same strong

> smell. But I have no actual experience.

>

> As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific

> preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the oil

> need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled

> down?

>

> What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of?

>

> Thanks,

>

> ~Ole

>

> sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" a_jagawat@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation

> > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil for

> > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some

> > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil

> > usually and keep them soaked in oil.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Alok

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

> > >

> > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in

> > use in

> > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood

> > of the

> > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard

> > oil is

> > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil,

> > perhaps

> > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation

> > effect.

> > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard oil

> > is

> > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a

> > quick

> > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is definitely

> > my

> > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day

> > soak, I

> > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> > > >

> > > > Surya

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > alphanov2@

> > > > sacred-objects

> > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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Dear Chandrashekharji,

 

Unfortunately I dont have enough pure Sandalwood oil here right now to

soak all my new beads after the soap/brush/ water cleaning. Will it

suffice to oil the beads on the surface? What is the advantage of

soaking, that the oil penetrates deep into the bead? If so, for how long

should the beads be soaked for best effect? I do have the sesame oil,

but I am worried that the beads will assimilate the sesame smell and I

want to avoid that. What do you think?

 

Input from others with practical experience of this is highly welcome!

 

Thanks,

 

Ole

 

 

sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke

<chphadke wrote:

>

> Dear Ole,

>

> Thank you very much for your mail. I am of the opinion that the Sandle

Wood oil may be better than that of the Sesame oil due to its strong

fragnance to protect beads mainly from insects attack. Shelf life of

Sandle Oil is more than that of Sesame/Mustard/Oilive Oil. Rudraksha are

likely to absorb more quantity of Sandle Wood oil due to its woody

nature. The best way is to soak rudraksha with any oil having

antimicrobial and insecticidal properties overnight and after drying

thoroughly to apply sandle wood oil externally being expensive.

>

> Sesame Oil has similar chemical properties to that of Olive Oil

(Unsaponifable properties). Mustard Oil, Seasame Oil and Coconut Oil are

known to have antimicrobial properties. Coconut Oil has more shelf life

than that of sesame or mustard oil. However, I do not have any idea

about the comparative data of Mustard and Sesame Oil.

>

> The insect attack on beads is more serious than fungi. In tropical

climate like India, tiny beetles is the major problem for Rudraksha.

These beetles can easily drill holes in hard rudraksha stone (fruit)

damaging the bead. The best way to avoid these beetles is to keep

rudraksha mala in airy place. In temperate country like yours, beetles

may not be the problem, however, tiny mites may spoil the bead. Mites

carry fungus spores with them. Of course, mites are not that serious

than beetles as far as rudraksha are concerned.

>

> In temperate countries, there is no strong Sunlight. In such cases,

one can store Rudraksha beads with 'Silica Gel' bags to absorb moisture

from microclimate of the beads.

>

> Thanking you and with best wishes,

>

> Chandrashekhar Phadke

>

> alstrup alstrup wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekharji,

>

> Thank you for the info, it is always nice to get your educated views

in

> these matters. Do you consider Mustard oil to be better for beads than

> Sesame oil? Should the Sesame oil be cured first, as is recommended

when

> it is prepared as ayurvedic massage oil? (This to give it higher

> absorption rate) What is your insights about antimicrobial/antifungal

> properties of pure Sandalwood oil compared to other oils?

>

> As it so happens, I just received some fresh beads back from puja in

> India, some of them had developed some fresh external white fungus,

> because they had been wrapped in moist bilva leaves and inside a

sealed

> plastic bag. I imediately soaked/cleaned beads with pure soapy water

and

> toothbrush and soaked/flushed with clean water, also shaking the beads

> to get as much water out from inside beads. They are now clean. Then

> they have dried in air for some days with a towel underneath. Now I

need

> to soak them in oil. I have organic sesame oil, but only enough pure

> sandal wood for external coating. Should I soak overnight in sesame

oil

> first, then sun-dry and then apply sandalwood oil? How long should

beads

> dry in sun? What if there is no useful sunlight?

>

> Thanking you as always for your insights in these matters,

>

> ~ Ole

> sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke

> chphadke@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ole,

> >

> > Neem oil, though has antimicrobial properties, is thick and has very

> strong smell. The disadvantage of using thick oil is that it gets

> polymerised in few days making its consistency like a thick paste and

> therefore is not suitable for Rudraksha.

> >

> > Oil is mainly used to protect beads from microbial infection and to

> give lustre to beads. Other than Mustard Oil, 'Til Oil (Sesame Oil)'

is

> the best preservative for rudraksha beads. It has antifungal

properties.

> 'Til Oil' is also considered as auspicious. 'Til Oil' lamp is believed

> to emit positive energy. In Maharashtra State of India, it is a usual

> practice to lit 'Til Oil' lamp near the Puja altar.

> >

> > With best wishes,

> >

> > Chandrashekhar Phadke

> >

> >

> > alstrup alstrup@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Alok Ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your input. Neem oil was previously discussed here, I

> raised

> > the point that pure coldpressed neem oil, which contains the

> beneficial

> > antimicrobial compunds, also has a very strong smell, so I am not

sure

> > this will be preferable, as the beads will get acquire the same

strong

> > smell. But I have no actual experience.

> >

> > As for the traditional use of mustard seed oil, is there a specific

> > preference; from yellow or dark seeds, or does it matter? Does the

oil

> > need to cured first; heated up to 100 degress celcius and the cooled

> > down?

> >

> > What is the "phoolkumari" oil made of?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > ~Ole

> >

> > sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" a_jagawat@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > Mustard oil protects the bead from harmful effects of degradation

> > > and it definitley preserves the bead. You can also use Neem oil

for

> > > the same. One of the bigger Rudraksha seller i know, uses some

> > > " Phoolkumari" oil for the same. Most of them use Mustard oil

> > > usually and keep them soaked in oil.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Alok

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sacred-objects, "alstrup" alstrup@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Is it necessary to soak beads and for what reasons?

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure that olive oil is good for beads, as it was not in

> > > use in

> > > > India, we dont know if it could reduce the longevity of the wood

> > > of the

> > > > beads over many years? There could be a good reason why mustard

> > > oil is

> > > > traditionally used, according to ayurveda, it is a drying oil,

> > > perhaps

> > > > the fatty acid composition of mustard oil has a preservation

> > > effect.

> > > > There should definitely be done some research on this topic.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das"

<mahamuni@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Any will do. I normally use olive oil. Traditionally mustard

oil

> > > is

> > > > used, but I don't particularly like the smell. When just doing a

> > > quick

> > > > fix for a bead or mala, I use Sandlewood Oil, which is

definitely

> > > my

> > > > favorite to use, but is quite costly. When I do a good 1-2 day

> > > soak, I

> > > > use Olive and then follow with a light Sandlewood for scent.

> > > > >

> > > > > Surya

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > alphanov2@

> > > > > sacred-objects

> > > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:43 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: Rudraksha bead quality

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What are the best oils for soaking a rudraksha bead?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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