Origin of the Jivatma - from ADVAITA angle

[Guest guest]

AGREED!!!

 

Can anyone explain origin of the Jivatma, and it's conditional life in

Maya, according to the Advaita siddhanta of Pujya Adishankaracharya?

 

It should be known... I would like to know...

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni

wrote:

>

> Very Beautiful and well said!

>

> -

> jaymunshi

> sacred-objects

> Monday, August 07, 2006 4:27 PM

> Re: Origin of the Jivatma - from EVERY angle

>

>

> Pranam,

>

> Beautiful thoughts. I wish to narrate a story of my childhood.

>

> I was in my eight grade and as usual had gone to meet my mentor. I

> knocked the door.... as usal and he allways knew the times when used

> to come and bother him :-) but today he as in a very naughty mood

> and he yelled .... Whose it? and i said 'Jay' and he opened the door

> and asked "Are you sure???" and like that silly eigth grader.. i

> giggled. But he with his ever inspiring smile continued to gaze in

> my eyes... and some how a serenity crept over me. My mind started to

> open like a sun flower opening up to the sun seeking the divine rays

> of grace.

>

> My mentor has his own ways and a few days later... i chanced upon

> shankaracharyas Nirvana shatkam... and i ran to him just as i read

> it and said... i know who i am! and he giggled and said "Pray,

> pronounce:" And i came out with Aham Nirvakalpo Nirarkara Rupo...

> Blah Blah.. i had memorised it to impress him with my new found

> knowledge :-) and he smiled.

>

> And when he smiles that particular smile... i think or he makes me

> think. He sort of pulls my mind to direction he wants to. And i

> said, i am not sure. And i asked him what do the shastras say? And

> he said so you are what other define? So i asked him Gnan yoga... is

> it not a way to reach that Vaikuntha? Nirvana? Nirvikalpa smadhi?

> And he asked me who told you that there is a place called vaikuntha?

> did you meet someone from there?

>

> Well in the years to come i know who i am. I am someone in search

> for that answer? Who I am? 40 days of fasting doesnt give it to you.

> Gnana yoga doesnt but does quicken the process... perhaps. Karma

> yoga lessens the misery of being lost. Well for know i look for

> vaikutha in my work. Hatha yoga to keep me healthy and moving so

> that i perform my karmas well. Bhakti Yoga to open up myself for

> that divine grace. And hoping that one day i will find out who i am

> and what is jivatma.

>

> Yes philosophies are interesting but they are to cryptic to

> understand. What i feel over the years.... is that no samradaya or

> no religion has the answer. Why? cause it cant be put in words. Its

> only for us to one day realise.

>

> Well perhaps not what your question is that i answered. But yes.. my

> thoughts i did reflect on Jivatma.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Jay

>

> sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown"

> <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I have not studied other philosophies besides dvaitavad. I have

> some

> > idea about the goals of the different sampradayas, but the JIVA

> TATTVA

> > is what I'm interested to hear and learn from those who know other

> > philosophies. If every one wrote and sent in their respective

> version

> > of Jiva Tattva, according to their own Sampradaya, then we would

> have

> > a nice library on Jiva Tattva. After all, aside from Jiva tattva,

> > talismans and sacred objects have no meaning. I'm seriously

> interesed

> > to further my limited knowledge of Vedanta, and know the different

> angles.

> >

> > For example, what is JIVA TATTVA according to:

> >

> > Advaitavad

> > Astanga Yoga

> > Bhakti

> > Shivism

> > Shaaktism

> > Aghori

> > Karmavad

> > Nastic

> > Jain

> > Sikh

> > Radhaswomi

> > TM

> >

> > and any other I don't know about...

> >

> > I hope this will increase my knowledge because all members here can

> > teach me so much. I love to hear it.

> >

> > Best rgds,

> > Richard

> >

>