help please...5/8 progressive? (Arjunji and Bhaskar)

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Dear Arjunji and Bhaskar,

 

Can you please give me the address where we can submit this. Earlier

i used to submit this note books to kanchi paramacharya.Still there

is lot in the house written by my sister as she is writing this for

the last 10 years...

 

regards

sriganeshh

 

 

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear bhaskarji

>

> your last observation is very good. i too have seen many people

> writing ramakoti i.e. writing sriram one crore times and getting

> positive results. writing is followed because along with writing

> they also recite it. of course it takes several years for a

person

> to finish one crore. if one could do 12 crores in one lifetime,

he

> is a highly blessed person in this kaliyuga.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> (one word "ram" in itself is a big mantra)

>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Prafullji,

> >

> > Not meaning in any way to offend You or change Your stance or

not

> > talk in conformity with

> > what You say, I put my views also as under.

> >

> > When we indicate bad times to natives, it is not always to put

> fear

> > or spoil their efforts,

> > at times its for their own good. Suppose You see oncoming bad

> > financial time coming for a native,

> > would You not tell him, that. please pull out Your money from

the

> > share market and no more speculations for the next 6 months or 1

> > Year ? Or when You see that in no way is a particular native

going

> to

> > have great aptitude in accounts, would You then give him good

> dreams

> > if he has already started persuing career in Chartered

> accountancy.If

> > his future lies in Music or drama or TV actor, would You not

> suggest

> > him that ?

> >

> > Yet-

> > Super human Efforts which few percentage of us possess, can

change

> > the destiny to the required destination is, what I finally

> believe.As

> > the old adage goes, God helps those who help themselves.

> > If any member happens to read Late Shri Dongreji Maharaj's

version

> of

> > Ramayana, it is clearly mentioned

> > the relation of taking Gods name vis a vis efforts vis a vis the

> 12

> > houses of the Kundli or Horoscope.

> > It is clearly mentioned that if a persons does nama Japa 1 crore

> > times hist first house negatives written in destiny for him are

> > cleared, if he takes name of Ram for 2 crores his second house

> > negatives of wealth are cleared and so forth and so on. Finally

> after

> > 12 crores this venered respected personality has also

> > mentioned that a person doing Nama Japa of Lord Rama for 13

> crores,

> > is having the power to make

> > Lord Rama sit in front of him just like You and me sit in some

> > meeting.

> > So the above simply shows that fatalistic attitude is not

desired,

> > but at the same time. we need

> > more than ordinary efforts to counter the bad results coming in

> our

> > life, or change the course

> > of destiny to desired levels.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > N.B. I agree to almost to all what You have mentioned, so please

> note

> > that I am just discussing healthily.,

> > and at times supporting Your theories with illustrations.

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri kumar ji

> > >

> > > very well said.

> > >

> > > The biggest irony is that, we defend our incompetencies

(linking

> to

> > astrology) by using pointers as shani / mangal / rahu / ketu. In

> the

> > name of past glory, we boost jupiter and so on...I wanted to

bring

> > this thread to a very serious issue. Are we astrologers not

> > responsbile to an large extent for these declining "will" to

win /

> > achieve. Are we not making the population weak, by saying that -

> you

> > are destined to fail, for the planets. Should not we guide the

> nation

> > to achieve, by helping people through attributes of successful

> tasks

> > vis a vis person's strength. But jyotish has also forgot to

> > contribute to the country, in the name of destiny. Instead of

> > indicating the bad periods, we should tell how will the adoption

> of

> > trait of shani etc can help to increase performance. But in the

> name

> > of God and helping natives, do not we make them weak !! Do not

> > astrologers help in reducing productivity, by saying that good

> > muhurta is only after 4 weeks or this profession will not suit

> > them !!! So, the person starts the work with the doubtful itself

> or

> > lesser interest.

> > >

> > > These are serious questions. But can astrologer also follow

his

> > professional responsibility to the nation. Instead of focussing

on

> > scaring the natives for commercial / ego motives and then

> > providing "quick fix". Are we honest in terms of our obligation

to

> > society? We may not like to question ourselves, but we have a

> great

> > role in modern India - for its present state or in bright

> tomorrow.

> > >

> > > Why is our astrology pursued and followed so fatalistically?

> > Why "quick fix" remedies suggested need to cost people ? Are we

> > helping people or ourselves?

> > >

> > > Why does our elected PM need to trust astrologer for muhurta,

> more

> > than his own abilities?

> > >

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > "Every brain of being human to think and to reason, for what

> seeing

> > and what not seeing."

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > gbp_kumar@

> > > > Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:24:24 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >

> > > > RE: Re: help please...5/8 progressive?

> > > >

> > > > Hi Prafulla,

> > > > Most of what u said surely applies to the whole sub-

> Continent,

> > we are a

> > > > few shades better, but this is a fact that Indian can;t

> progress

> > for the

> > > > reasons u listed and we do SHINE AS INDIVIDUALS never as

team

> > players

> > > > that is why we do well even in IT, CA, Medicine, sports our

> team

> > wins

> > > > post Independence are very few in any sport 3 Olympic

hockey

> gold

> > > > medals, 1 cricket world cup, we don't win any team game

> well.

> > for

> > > > states with a passion for so called self reliance [WB] they

> cheer

> > > > Brazil, Argentina. also import players none play from there

> and

> > worse

> > > > they are the spoil sport in all development, unions, fixed

> > mindsets of

> > > > communism which original ones have deserted.

> > > > WE TALK of being Independent of USA, when Japan was

> invaded ,

> > destroyed

> > > > by US they teamed up with them in 15 years they were on par

> and

> > 20 yrs

> > > > ahead of them so when work is worship the goddess Lakshmi

> smiles

> > where

> > > > we worship communism it breeds the needless discussion,

> > obscurantists

> > > > mindsets why work ,what will i gain the company becomes

> richer,

> > they

> > > > never related their growth with companies.

> > > > the biggest curse is our film industry which even copies

of

> > Hollywood]

> > > > are modified to suit a Hero from nowhere solving all issues

> so

> > we still

> > > > look for heroes that is all the crimes committed on us by

our

> > invaders,

> > > > and terror Nations will go answered we will wait one we are

> > tolerant as

> > > > we r not affected directly, if we are what can we do we

show

> > calm and

> > > > restraint, the attackers will continue, they get solidarity

> and

> > give

> > > > solidarity for even supposed crimes in cartoons In a

foreign

> > county,

> > > > here we are cold hearted to genuine suffering\death,

> destruction

> > of our

> > > > nation, culture, wealth and human resources.

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > Sir

> > > >

> > > > I am talking of productivity and professional honesty. and

we

> > have not

> > > > been able to grow independently for various reasons..biggest

> one

> > is our

> > > > productive issues.

> > > >

> > > > The moment, person blames for non happening to "stars" and

> does

> > not try

> > > > to identify his attributes to match the challenges, then it

> is

> > self

> > > > appeasing. All these quick fix "sellers" in any profession

> > damages the

> > > > most. It makes people vulnerable to the core, without any

> > recourse. All

> > > > professions have different challenges and rewards.

> > > >

> > > > The family does not progress, by a kid getting gold medal

in

> > school. it

> > > > has to be economic progress and unfortunately - stardom /

> media

> > etc has

> > > > brought up another mess.

> > > >

> > > > Famous economic principle - A Poor is poor, because he is

> poor.

> > Why?

> > > > not because of resources (we all know, resources can be

> borrowed

> > etc),

> > > > but for sheer desire, skill and productivity.

> > > >

> > > > We work best, when we are put to tough task (not

necessarily

> > political

> > > > slavery). But how many of Indians finshes their work in

> > designated time?

> > > > How many of them like to deliver of good quality? and How

many

> of

> > > > Indians do not give excuse for non performance? How many of

> them

> > are

> > > > honest in their social / professional undertakings? How many

> of

> > Indian

> > > > students work on curriculum projects independently to learn?

> How

> > many of

> > > > Indians reach office in time? How many of them put the work

> as

> > priority

> > > > above their social committments? How many fresh Chartered

> > accountants

> > > > can read books of accounts? How many fresh engineers fix a

> car?

> > and so

> > > > on.......

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar bhai, all are difficult and embrassing questions.

so

> > How many

> > > > think honestly without any motives? A country can grow only

> with

> > honest

> > > > and committed work force. I do not mind people drinking

> (devatas

> > also

> > > > drink...), gambling and so on..as long as they work/deliver

> with

> > honesty

> > > > and productivity. So let us not get into the habbits. We

are

> > discussing

> > > > minimum requisite characteristics for self sustainable

> economic

> > growth.

> > > >

> > > > Ofcourse, we are not talking about exceptional

> > people/circumsatnces.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > "Every brain of being human to think and to reason, for

what

> > seeing and

> > > > what not seeing."

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:47:39 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: help please...

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Prafullji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Again well said, but people who are responsible for this

> > state of

> > > > > affairs are another section of Indians, and we may not

> come

> > in that

> > > > > category. Just like Sania Mirza is good for the country

> and

> > Rathor is

> > > > > good for the country, yet we have no part in their

> goodness

> > to the

> > > > > country directly, except watching their matches over a

cup

> of

> > drink

> > > > > on TV, same way we are also not responsible for the

> various

> > ills

> > > > > of India, You mentioned. We are not all, in that

category

> of

> > > > > either contributing good or contributing bad to the

> country

> > state of

> > > > > affairs as of today.

> > > > > Your attributes may be more linked to the people who

have

> been

> > > > > governing the country,their servants, and channels in

all

> > sectors,

> > > > > who may be what You assess,(Which is right), but

certainly

> > not all of

> > > > > the Indians.,today who are, or have been in the past.

> > > > > That is another story that we develop black stains on

the

> > clothes

> > > > > working in the coal mine,its difficult to develop like a

> Lotus

> > > > > in......

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Dear members

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Yes I am proud Indian, but accepting our weakness does

> not

> > affect

> > > > > my proud feeling.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> The fact remains that - we are a weak, lithargic and

> > unproductive

> > > > > race. We use rahu/ketu/shani to justify others for our

non

> > > > > performance (we are dishonest to ourselves) and use

self

> > proclaimed

> > > > > sage status to hide our desire for materialism. The

> biggest

> > reason

> > > > > for our poor performance is our unproductivity in all

> > sectors -

> > > > > government, private sector, technology adoption, farming

> etc.

> > We

> > > > > believe in talking, chatting, finding excuses, using

> > diplomacy to

> > > > > find face saving grace and so on. Japan was tormented

too

> in

> > world

> > > > > war, but they managed to progress...just for their

> > productivity.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> All these past glories, our great culture etc are not

> going

> > to

> > > > > help. It is the productive work, which determines the

> final

> > outcome.

> > > > > Let us name one profession, where we are honest and

> > productive. We

> > > > > have been slaves, and when ruled by others do well (IT

is

> the

> > best

> > > > > example - where our services are monitored by non indian

IT

> > > > > professionals and we comply to their standards, else we

> will

> > always

> > > > > find reason for self appeasement).

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I have worked in various cultures, and am sure that, how

> > > > > unproductive we are, if not monitored / demanded. I

know,

> > there may

> > > > > be strong messages for my above note,but I will be happy

> for

> > the fact

> > > > > that, i wrote - what I observed, understood and not to

> please

> > anyone.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >>

> > > > >> "Every brain of being human to think and to reason, for

> what

> > seeing

> > > > > and what not seeing."

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> panditarjun2004@

> > > > >>> Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:52:03 -0000

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Re: help please...

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> dear bhaskarji

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> most (not all) people who enter chat rooms or

> participate

> > actively

> > > > >>> in various net groups is only because they get some

> > belongingness

> > > > >>> and acceptance and love and warmth showered on them in

> this

> > > > > mythical

> > > > >>> web which is real and unreal both. needless to say

they

> > miss most

> > > > >>> of these in their real lives.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> but the first principle of karma theory says that if

you

> > want

> > > > >>> happiness, you have to give happines first i.e. make

> others

> > happy.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> as regards your praising the west, i can tell only one

> > thing.

> > > > > india

> > > > >>> remained poor in material wealth only because it has

> > welcomed all

> > > > >>> looters and allowed them to loot our country and take

> away

> > as much

> > > > >>> wealth as they can in shiploads to their countries.

> > religion

> > > > > after

> > > > >>> religion, country after country invaded india and they

> > continue to

> > > > >>> do so. you ask any australian, indian, zimbabwian,

> south

> > african

> > > > > or

> > > > >>> even a hongkong chinese how british have looted these

> > countries.

> > > > >>> how US has used nuclear bomb and made the #1 japan

come

> on

> > their

> > > > >>> knees, forced it to invest trillions of dollars in the

> US

> > and

> > > > >>> started invading various countries is known to all.

> french

> > too

> > > > > set

> > > > >>> up their own colonies. china too is annexing

> countries.

> > india

> > > > > was

> > > > >>> sliced and chopped into tiny kingdoms and divisions

> based on

> > > > >>> religion.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> still the leftover indian bone (all flesh looted by

the

> > british)

> > > > > is

> > > > >>> most sought after by the entire world and they project

> > india in

> > > > > the

> > > > >>> top three super powers in the world by 2050.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> india has, is and would always be at the giving end be

> it

> > material

> > > > >>> wealth or intellectual wealth. one must be proud of

> being

> > an

> > > > > indian

> > > > >>> and praise this great country that withstood centuries

of

> > > > > invasions

> > > > >>> and still going strong.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> with best wishes

> > > > >>> pandit arjun

> > > > >>> (to steal others' wealth is a sin as per all religions

> but

> > many

> > > > >>> superpowers of today became superpowers only by

stealing

> the

> > > > > wealth

> > > > >>> of other countries)

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Dear Haizen,

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Some thoughts to share with You-

> > > > >>>> This world has become very much

materialistic,specially

> > India.

> > > > >>>> I think You are based out of India,where most would

be

> > looking

> > > > >>>> towards spirituality rather than material, because

they

> are

> > > > > already

> > > > >>>> full there with the latter(General statement).Here we

> have

> > not

> > > > >>> seen

> > > > >>>> the former part and so no question of becoming full

and

> > searching

> > > > >>>> better options. Yet due to cultural influences and

> > traditional

> > > > >>> bring

> > > > >>>> ups in individual families, the essence has remained,

> but

> > the

> > > > > 70's

> > > > >>>> boom of USA is now the India story currently after

> > 35years. With

> > > > >>>> so many malls coming around every city in ever nook

and

> > corner,

> > > > >>> pubs

> > > > >>>> in every lane, massage parlours in every street,

discos

> all

> > > > > around

> > > > >>>> open full night.liberisation of media

> broadcasting,boozing

> > openly

> > > > >>>> below every building especially in Bombay in posh

areas

> > too,easy

> > > > >>>> access to flesh and pleasures thereof, and

availibility

> of

> > money

> > > > >>> too

> > > > >>>> in the youth of today drawing huge salaries as they

are

> > > > >>> academically

> > > > >>>> well off, and even those who are not,also drawing

good

> pay

> > checks

> > > > >>> due

> > > > >>>> to outsourcing to India -call centres, money is

> available

> > freely

> > > > >>>> today,then what was two decades ago. All this

isleading

> to

> > > > >>> flamboyant

> > > > >>>> lifestyles, I should say luxurious, as every one is

> having

> > > > >>> hightech

> > > > >>>> gadgets, personal vehicles and what not, spending

> evenings

> > in

> > > > > some

> > > > >>>> restuarant,or shopping and enjoying life.

> > > > >>>> Amongst all this,

> > > > >>>> People like me, little older not matching with high

> > academic

> > > > >>>> qualifications, neither able to mindset doing jobs

such

> as

> > > > >>>> call centres and the like, at prime of life or say

> third

> > stage ,

> > > > >>>> ready to enter fourth, are just left spectator to the

> > happennings

> > > > >>>> around staying put at home or office without

loosening

> out

> > > > > pockets

> > > > >>>> as there is not much to loosen about, feel the brunt

> > because

> > > > >>> though

> > > > >>>> we may be understanding, others around us with whom

we

> are

> > living

> > > > >>>> would nothave the bent of mind to go deep for any

> > retrospection..

> > > > >>>> They would feel the dearth, I dont blame them, its

the

> men

> > who

> > > > >>>> are bound to get grub home, but since the grub is

> limited,

> > to

> > > > >>>> satiate, considering the environments, then the

> problems

> > start

> > > > >>>> appearing in life, which is happening in most middle

> class

> > > > >>> families

> > > > >>>> in India today.

> > > > >>>> At this stage man starts thinking what is he worth ?

or

> > why is he

> > > > >>>> worthless ? Since the mental faculty does not allow

any

> > type

> > > > >>>> of harakiri in business or professional activities ,

he

> is

> > left

> > > > >>>> to creating only limited.

> > > > >>>> Hence when someone says good to that person, the

actual

> > food,the

> > > > >>> soul

> > > > >>>> wants is got. I think after the basic necessities,

what

> a

> > man

> > > > > wants

> > > > >>>> is love, caring, or if not that at least a feeling of

> being

> > > > >>> wanted,

> > > > >>>> a feeling that yes You are also required some where

> some

> > place,

> > > > >>> You

> > > > >>>> have your own identity. A single word of love or

> affection

> > coming

> > > > >>>> from the heart is what is required, to make You

> complete.

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Thanks very much

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Bhaskar.

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> , "haizen"

> <haizen@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >>>>>

> > > > >>>>> Dear Bhakar,

> > > > >>>>>

> > > > >>>>> I hope your family gets around to saying it too. But

> if

> > they

> > > > >>> don't,

> > > > >>>> I had the

> > > > >>>>> pleasure of saying it first. What's that old saying

> > about "A

> > > > >>>> prophet being without

> > > > >>>>> honor in his own country"? I'd say it's true in some

> > families

> > > > >>> too.

> > > > >>>> In the meantime,

> > > > >>>>> it has now been said and the words officially go on

> your

> > akashic

> > > > >>>> record. ;-)

> > > > >>>>>

> > > > >>>>> Sincerely, Haizen

> > > > >>>>>

> > > > >>>>>

> > > > >>>>>

> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > >>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > >>>>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> Dear Haizen ,

> > > > >>>>>> You have made my day by calling me good. I wish

> someone

> > in my

> > > > >>>> family

> > > > >>>>>> tells me that some day before I leave this

planet.....

> > (Again

> > > > >>>>>> demanding)

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> -- In , "haizen"

> > <haizen@>

> > > > >>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>> You're a good man.

> > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>> Warm regards, Haizen

> > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > >>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Haizen,

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>> You are generous.

> > > > >>>>>>>> At times though we are merged in selfless

> service,here

> > or

> > > > >>> on

> > > > >>>>>>>> other platforms, and should not expect anything in

> > > > >>>> return ,when

> > > > >>>>>>>> doing free service, yet being a human being, at

> times

> > the

> > > > >>> Ego

> > > > >>>>>>>> overcomes the intellect and perhaps in a weak

> moment

> > the

> > > > >>>> demand

> > > > >>>>>>>> for a thanks is made. This demand is actually for

> > > > >>>> acknowledgement

> > > > >>>>>>>> of your having contributed but nothing else. Yet

I

> am

> > not

> > > > >>>>>> supposed to

> > > > >>>>>>>> ask for that if it its going to be a service-

> selfless.

> > > > >>>>>>>> If 4 flats are there on a floor in a building,

and

> one

> > > > >>> person

> > > > >>>>>> comes

> > > > >>>>>>>> asking for clothes at my door, I go inside my

house

> and

> > > > >>>> search

> > > > >>>>>> for

> > > > >>>>>>>> some clothes to be given to this chap, he

> immediately

> > > > >>> leaves

> > > > >>>>>> after

> > > > >>>>>>>> taking the clothes and without any

acknowledgement

> > moves

> > > > >>> to

> > > > >>>>>> another

> > > > >>>>>>>> flat,then You feel...

> > > > >>>>>>>> Here after doing my bit,and this gentleman

receving

> my

> > > > >>> advice,

> > > > >>>>>>>> instead of writing back, straightaway put the

> > call "Please

> > > > >>>> can

> > > > >>>>>>>> any one help me" This must have hurt me and made

me

> > > > >>> demand,

> > > > >>>>>>>> what I did. I will be more thoughtful next time

> and

> > less

> > > > >>>>>>>> demanding.

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>> Haizen thanks for understanding.

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>> Regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>> , "haizen"

> > > > >>> <haizen@>

> > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>> Since you have given two free hours of your

> valuable

> > > > >>>>>>>>> time on a fruitless pursuit, *I* wish to thank

you

> > > > >>>>>>>>> though I was not the person you were trying to

> > > > >>>>>>>>> help. Everything takes time and I often wonder

> > > > >>>>>>>>> if some of the problems people have are the

result

> > > > >>>>>>>>> of being so self-absorbed or self-preoccupied

> > > > >>>>>>>>> that they forget to offer even the simplest thank

> > > > >>>>>>>>> you when someone takes their interests at heart.

> > > > >>>>>>>>> In the land of free readings, gratitude is the

coin

> > > > >>>>>>>>> of the realm. And for those who want their entire

> > > > >>>>>>>>> existence explained to them through their chart

> (!),

> > > > >>>>>>>>> the astrologer should be compensated according

> > > > >>>>>>>>> to what he or she needs, and that usually means

> > > > >>>>>>>>> being hired professionally for the hours

involved.

> > > > >>>>>>>>> Most people do not understand that what appears

> > > > >>>>>>>>> to be an effortless and easy answer by the

> astrologer,

> > > > >>>>>>>>> required *years* of study leading up to it, and

> > > > >>>>>>>>> the astrologer should not be expected or demanded

> > > > >>>>>>>>> to give their time away when they have the same

> > > > >>>>>>>>> bills to pay as everyone else. Most astrologers

do

> > > > >>>>>>>>> free readings as a way of honing their skills or

> not

> > > > >>>>>>>>> getting hung-up on the material side of things

> only,

> > > > >>>>>>>>> but their survival depends upon being hired for

> their

> > > > >>>>>>>>> talents. Astrology is a calling in life, yes,

but

> it

> > > > >>>>>>>>> is also a trade and a service and "every servant

is

> > > > >>>>>>>>> worthy of his hire." To do so permits the

> astrologer

> > > > >>>>>>>>> to serve selflessly without charge those who are

> truly

> > > > >>>>>>>>> in need--the student, those suffering from

> illness, or

> > > > >>>>>>>>> the elderly--the only people astrologers might

> > possibly

> > > > >>>>>>>>> be obliged to help. That's my own personal view,

of

> > > > >>>>>>>>> course.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>> So "Thank you." May the rewards of those two

hours

> > > > >>>>>>>>> come through some other means of abundance.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>> Haizen Paige

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>> --- In

> > > > >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > >>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> You should have typed June 7th and not July 7th.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I spent 2 hours of early morning tying to find

out

> > > > >>> Your

> > > > >>>>>> possible

> > > > >>>>>>>> birth

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> date.If You had given a word of thanks,it would

> have

> > > > >>> made

> > > > >>>> me

> > > > >>>>>> real

> > > > >>>>>>>> happy.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Its just like when a singer sings on stage and

the

> > > > >>> claps

> > > > >>>> he

> > > > >>>>>> gets

> > > > >>>>>>>> are

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> soothing to the soul in the same way............

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Any way please forget it.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> God bless ,

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> , "rebbeasher"

> > > > >>>>>>>> <rebbeasher@>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I have some questions... my birthdate is

> 7/7/1977 at

> > > > >>>> 9:56

> > > > >>>>>> 32n06

> > > > >>>>>>>> 34e47.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Should I become a jyotishi?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Will the government find my adoption papers?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What were my biological parents like? What

did

> they

> > > > >>> do?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> My religious nature?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The truth about my adoptive parents?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> When will I meet my biological parents?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why did I come to the US and why was I adopted?

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! Trying to

understand

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> > > > >>>> life.

> > > > >>>>>>>> Thank you.

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>>>

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[Guest guest]

Dear SriGanesh,

 

I have written one more post regarding this, I dont know why it has

not come.

 

If You are in Rajasthan You may go to a temple Salasarji Hamuman

Temple, where You may submit this. If in Bombay there is a good

temple at Wadala near Dadar TT Circle, (One Rama Mandir and opposite

is Hanuman Mandir-which is smaller version of Salasarji- I have seen

miracle in my own life from this temples Hanumanji my wifes ulcer

about 1/2" big like boiled chana which was not removable even after

six months of antibiotics , was removed within 3 days on its own,

after I submitted my request here)

But wherever You may be or anyone may be, any goo dtemple nearby

where prana pratishta has been done and people come for Pooja, should

suffice.

 

Regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, "sriganeshh"

<sriganeshh wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunji and Bhaskar,

>

> Can you please give me the address where we can submit this.

Earlier

> i used to submit this note books to kanchi paramacharya.Still there

> is lot in the house written by my sister as she is writing this for

> the last 10 years...

>

> regards

> sriganeshh

>

>

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear bhaskarji

> >

> > your last observation is very good. i too have seen many people

> > writing ramakoti i.e. writing sriram one crore times and getting

> > positive results. writing is followed because along with writing

> > they also recite it. of course it takes several years for a

> person

> > to finish one crore. if one could do 12 crores in one lifetime,

> he

> > is a highly blessed person in this kaliyuga.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> > (one word "ram" in itself is a big mantra)

> >

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Prafullji,

> > >

> > > Not meaning in any way to offend You or change Your stance or

> not

> > > talk in conformity with

> > > what You say, I put my views also as under.

> > >

> > > When we indicate bad times to natives, it is not always to put

> > fear

> > > or spoil their efforts,

> > > at times its for their own good. Suppose You see oncoming bad

> > > financial time coming for a native,

> > > would You not tell him, that. please pull out Your money from

> the

> > > share market and no more speculations for the next 6 months or

1

> > > Year ? Or when You see that in no way is a particular native

> going

> > to

> > > have great aptitude in accounts, would You then give him good

> > dreams

> > > if he has already started persuing career in Chartered

> > accountancy.If

> > > his future lies in Music or drama or TV actor, would You not

> > suggest

> > > him that ?

> > >

> > > Yet-

> > > Super human Efforts which few percentage of us possess, can

> change

> > > the destiny to the required destination is, what I finally

> > believe.As

> > > the old adage goes, God helps those who help themselves.

> > > If any member happens to read Late Shri Dongreji Maharaj's

> version

> > of

> > > Ramayana, it is clearly mentioned

> > > the relation of taking Gods name vis a vis efforts vis a vis

the

> > 12

> > > houses of the Kundli or Horoscope.

> > > It is clearly mentioned that if a persons does nama Japa 1

crore

> > > times hist first house negatives written in destiny for him are

> > > cleared, if he takes name of Ram for 2 crores his second house

> > > negatives of wealth are cleared and so forth and so on. Finally

> > after

> > > 12 crores this venered respected personality has also

> > > mentioned that a person doing Nama Japa of Lord Rama for 13

> > crores,

> > > is having the power to make

> > > Lord Rama sit in front of him just like You and me sit in some

> > > meeting.

> > > So the above simply shows that fatalistic attitude is not

> desired,

> > > but at the same time. we need

> > > more than ordinary efforts to counter the bad results coming in

> > our

> > > life, or change the course

> > > of destiny to desired levels.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > N.B. I agree to almost to all what You have mentioned, so

please

> > note

> > > that I am just discussing healthily.,

> > > and at times supporting Your theories with

illustrations.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri kumar ji

> > > >

> > > > very well said.

> > > >

> > > > The biggest irony is that, we defend our incompetencies

> (linking

> > to

> > > astrology) by using pointers as shani / mangal / rahu / ketu.

In

> > the

> > > name of past glory, we boost jupiter and so on...I wanted to

> bring

> > > this thread to a very serious issue. Are we astrologers not

> > > responsbile to an large extent for these declining "will" to

> win /

> > > achieve. Are we not making the population weak, by saying that -

 

> > you

> > > are destined to fail, for the planets. Should not we guide the

> > nation

> > > to achieve, by helping people through attributes of successful

> > tasks

> > > vis a vis person's strength. But jyotish has also forgot to

> > > contribute to the country, in the name of destiny. Instead of

> > > indicating the bad periods, we should tell how will the

adoption

> > of

> > > trait of shani etc can help to increase performance. But in the

> > name

> > > of God and helping natives, do not we make them weak !! Do not

> > > astrologers help in reducing productivity, by saying that good

> > > muhurta is only after 4 weeks or this profession will not suit

> > > them !!! So, the person starts the work with the doubtful

itself

> > or

> > > lesser interest.

> > > >

> > > > These are serious questions. But can astrologer also follow

> his

> > > professional responsibility to the nation. Instead of focussing

> on

> > > scaring the natives for commercial / ego motives and then

> > > providing "quick fix". Are we honest in terms of our obligation

> to

> > > society? We may not like to question ourselves, but we have a

> > great

> > > role in modern India - for its present state or in bright

> > tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > Why is our astrology pursued and followed so fatalistically?

> > > Why "quick fix" remedies suggested need to cost people ? Are we

> > > helping people or ourselves?

> > > >

> > > > Why does our elected PM need to trust astrologer for muhurta,

> > more

> > > than his own abilities?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > "Every brain of being human to think and to reason, for what

> > seeing

> > > and what not seeing."

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > gbp_kumar@

> > > > > Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:24:24 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > >

> > > > > RE: Re: help please...5/8 progressive?

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Prafulla,

> > > > > Most of what u said surely applies to the whole sub-

> > Continent,

> > > we are a

> > > > > few shades better, but this is a fact that Indian can;t

> > progress

> > > for the

> > > > > reasons u listed and we do SHINE AS INDIVIDUALS never as

> team

> > > players

> > > > > that is why we do well even in IT, CA, Medicine, sports

our

> > team

> > > wins

> > > > > post Independence are very few in any sport 3 Olympic

> hockey

> > gold

> > > > > medals, 1 cricket world cup, we don't win any team game

> > well.

> > > for

> > > > > states with a passion for so called self reliance [WB]

they

> > cheer

> > > > > Brazil, Argentina. also import players none play from

there

> > and

> > > worse

> > > > > they are the spoil sport in all development, unions, fixed

> > > mindsets of

> > > > > communism which original ones have deserted.

> > > > > WE TALK of being Independent of USA, when Japan was

> > invaded ,

> > > destroyed

> > > > > by US they teamed up with them in 15 years they were on

par

> > and

> > > 20 yrs

> > > > > ahead of them so when work is worship the goddess Lakshmi

> > smiles

> > > where

> > > > > we worship communism it breeds the needless discussion,

> > > obscurantists

> > > > > mindsets why work ,what will i gain the company becomes

> > richer,

> > > they

> > > > > never related their growth with companies.

> > > > > the biggest curse is our film industry which even copies

> of

> > > Hollywood]

> > > > > are modified to suit a Hero from nowhere solving all

issues

> > so

> > > we still

> > > > > look for heroes that is all the crimes committed on us by

> our

> > > invaders,

> > > > > and terror Nations will go answered we will wait one we

are

> > > tolerant as

> > > > > we r not affected directly, if we are what can we do we

> show

> > > calm and

> > > > > restraint, the attackers will continue, they get

solidarity

> > and

> > > give

> > > > > solidarity for even supposed crimes in cartoons In a

> foreign

> > > county,

> > > > > here we are cold hearted to genuine suffering\death,

> > destruction

> > > of our

> > > > > nation, culture, wealth and human resources.

> > > > >

> > > > > .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > Sir

> > > > >

> > > > > I am talking of productivity and professional honesty. and

> we

> > > have not

> > > > > been able to grow independently for various

reasons..biggest

> > one

> > > is our

> > > > > productive issues.

> > > > >

> > > > > The moment, person blames for non happening to "stars"

and

> > does

> > > not try

> > > > > to identify his attributes to match the challenges, then

it

> > is

> > > self

> > > > > appeasing. All these quick fix "sellers" in any profession

> > > damages the

> > > > > most. It makes people vulnerable to the core, without any

> > > recourse. All

> > > > > professions have different challenges and rewards.

> > > > >

> > > > > The family does not progress, by a kid getting gold medal

> in

> > > school. it

> > > > > has to be economic progress and unfortunately - stardom /

> > media

> > > etc has

> > > > > brought up another mess.

> > > > >

> > > > > Famous economic principle - A Poor is poor, because he is

> > poor.

> > > Why?

> > > > > not because of resources (we all know, resources can be

> > borrowed

> > > etc),

> > > > > but for sheer desire, skill and productivity.

> > > > >

> > > > > We work best, when we are put to tough task (not

> necessarily

> > > political

> > > > > slavery). But how many of Indians finshes their work in

> > > designated time?

> > > > > How many of them like to deliver of good quality? and How

> many

> > of

> > > > > Indians do not give excuse for non performance? How many of

> > them

> > > are

> > > > > honest in their social / professional undertakings? How

many

> > of

> > > Indian

> > > > > students work on curriculum projects independently to

learn?

> > How

> > > many of

> > > > > Indians reach office in time? How many of them put the work

> > as

> > > priority

> > > > > above their social committments? How many fresh Chartered

> > > accountants

> > > > > can read books of accounts? How many fresh engineers fix a

> > car?

> > > and so

> > > > > on.......

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar bhai, all are difficult and embrassing questions.

> so

> > > How many

> > > > > think honestly without any motives? A country can grow

only

> > with

> > > honest

> > > > > and committed work force. I do not mind people drinking

> > (devatas

> > > also

> > > > > drink...), gambling and so on..as long as they

work/deliver

> > with

> > > honesty

> > > > > and productivity. So let us not get into the habbits. We

> are

> > > discussing

> > > > > minimum requisite characteristics for self sustainable

> > economic

> > > growth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ofcourse, we are not talking about exceptional

> > > people/circumsatnces.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > > > "Every brain of being human to think and to reason, for

> what

> > > seeing and

> > > > > what not seeing."

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:47:39 -0000

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Re: help please...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shri Prafullji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Again well said, but people who are responsible for

this

> > > state of

> > > > > > affairs are another section of Indians, and we may not

> > come

> > > in that

> > > > > > category. Just like Sania Mirza is good for the country

> > and

> > > Rathor is

> > > > > > good for the country, yet we have no part in their

> > goodness

> > > to the

> > > > > > country directly, except watching their matches over a

> cup

> > of

> > > drink

> > > > > > on TV, same way we are also not responsible for the

> > various

> > > ills

> > > > > > of India, You mentioned. We are not all, in that

> category

> > of

> > > > > > either contributing good or contributing bad to the

> > country

> > > state of

> > > > > > affairs as of today.

> > > > > > Your attributes may be more linked to the people who

> have

> > been

> > > > > > governing the country,their servants, and channels in

> all

> > > sectors,

> > > > > > who may be what You assess,(Which is right), but

> certainly

> > > not all of

> > > > > > the Indians.,today who are, or have been in the past.

> > > > > > That is another story that we develop black stains on

> the

> > > clothes

> > > > > > working in the coal mine,its difficult to develop like

a

> > Lotus

> > > > > > in......

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prafulla Gang

> > > <jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Dear members

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Yes I am proud Indian, but accepting our weakness does

> > not

> > > affect

> > > > > > my proud feeling.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> The fact remains that - we are a weak, lithargic and

> > > unproductive

> > > > > > race. We use rahu/ketu/shani to justify others for our

> non

> > > > > > performance (we are dishonest to ourselves) and use

> self

> > > proclaimed

> > > > > > sage status to hide our desire for materialism. The

> > biggest

> > > reason

> > > > > > for our poor performance is our unproductivity in all

> > > sectors -

> > > > > > government, private sector, technology adoption,

farming

> > etc.

> > > We

> > > > > > believe in talking, chatting, finding excuses, using

> > > diplomacy to

> > > > > > find face saving grace and so on. Japan was tormented

> too

> > in

> > > world

> > > > > > war, but they managed to progress...just for their

> > > productivity.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> All these past glories, our great culture etc are not

> > going

> > > to

> > > > > > help. It is the productive work, which determines the

> > final

> > > outcome.

> > > > > > Let us name one profession, where we are honest and

> > > productive. We

> > > > > > have been slaves, and when ruled by others do well (IT

> is

> > the

> > > best

> > > > > > example - where our services are monitored by non

indian

> IT

> > > > > > professionals and we comply to their standards, else we

> > will

> > > always

> > > > > > find reason for self appeasement).

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I have worked in various cultures, and am sure that,

how

> > > > > > unproductive we are, if not monitored / demanded. I

> know,

> > > there may

> > > > > > be strong messages for my above note,but I will be

happy

> > for

> > > the fact

> > > > > > that, i wrote - what I observed, understood and not to

> > please

> > > anyone.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> "Every brain of being human to think and to reason,

for

> > what

> > > seeing

> > > > > > and what not seeing."

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> panditarjun2004@

> > > > > >>> Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:52:03 -0000

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Re: help please...

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> dear bhaskarji

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> most (not all) people who enter chat rooms or

> > participate

> > > actively

> > > > > >>> in various net groups is only because they get some

> > > belongingness

> > > > > >>> and acceptance and love and warmth showered on them

in

> > this

> > > > > > mythical

> > > > > >>> web which is real and unreal both. needless to say

> they

> > > miss most

> > > > > >>> of these in their real lives.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> but the first principle of karma theory says that if

> you

> > > want

> > > > > >>> happiness, you have to give happines first i.e. make

> > others

> > > happy.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> as regards your praising the west, i can tell only

one

> > > thing.

> > > > > > india

> > > > > >>> remained poor in material wealth only because it has

> > > welcomed all

> > > > > >>> looters and allowed them to loot our country and take

> > away

> > > as much

> > > > > >>> wealth as they can in shiploads to their countries.

> > > religion

> > > > > > after

> > > > > >>> religion, country after country invaded india and

they

> > > continue to

> > > > > >>> do so. you ask any australian, indian, zimbabwian,

> > south

> > > african

> > > > > > or

> > > > > >>> even a hongkong chinese how british have looted these

> > > countries.

> > > > > >>> how US has used nuclear bomb and made the #1 japan

> come

> > on

> > > their

> > > > > >>> knees, forced it to invest trillions of dollars in

the

> > US

> > > and

> > > > > >>> started invading various countries is known to all.

> > french

> > > too

> > > > > > set

> > > > > >>> up their own colonies. china too is annexing

> > countries.

> > > india

> > > > > > was

> > > > > >>> sliced and chopped into tiny kingdoms and divisions

> > based on

> > > > > >>> religion.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> still the leftover indian bone (all flesh looted by

> the

> > > british)

> > > > > > is

> > > > > >>> most sought after by the entire world and they

project

> > > india in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > >>> top three super powers in the world by 2050.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> india has, is and would always be at the giving end

be

> > it

> > > material

> > > > > >>> wealth or intellectual wealth. one must be proud of

> > being

> > > an

> > > > > > indian

> > > > > >>> and praise this great country that withstood

centuries

> of

> > > > > > invasions

> > > > > >>> and still going strong.

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> with best wishes

> > > > > >>> pandit arjun

> > > > > >>> (to steal others' wealth is a sin as per all

religions

> > but

> > > many

> > > > > >>> superpowers of today became superpowers only by

> stealing

> > the

> > > > > > wealth

> > > > > >>> of other countries)

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > > >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Dear Haizen,

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Some thoughts to share with You-

> > > > > >>>> This world has become very much

> materialistic,specially

> > > India.

> > > > > >>>> I think You are based out of India,where most would

> be

> > > looking

> > > > > >>>> towards spirituality rather than material, because

> they

> > are

> > > > > > already

> > > > > >>>> full there with the latter(General statement).Here

we

> > have

> > > not

> > > > > >>> seen

> > > > > >>>> the former part and so no question of becoming full

> and

> > > searching

> > > > > >>>> better options. Yet due to cultural influences and

> > > traditional

> > > > > >>> bring

> > > > > >>>> ups in individual families, the essence has

remained,

> > but

> > > the

> > > > > > 70's

> > > > > >>>> boom of USA is now the India story currently after

> > > 35years. With

> > > > > >>>> so many malls coming around every city in ever nook

> and

> > > corner,

> > > > > >>> pubs

> > > > > >>>> in every lane, massage parlours in every street,

> discos

> > all

> > > > > > around

> > > > > >>>> open full night.liberisation of media

> > broadcasting,boozing

> > > openly

> > > > > >>>> below every building especially in Bombay in posh

> areas

> > > too,easy

> > > > > >>>> access to flesh and pleasures thereof, and

> availibility

> > of

> > > money

> > > > > >>> too

> > > > > >>>> in the youth of today drawing huge salaries as they

> are

> > > > > >>> academically

> > > > > >>>> well off, and even those who are not,also drawing

> good

> > pay

> > > checks

> > > > > >>> due

> > > > > >>>> to outsourcing to India -call centres, money is

> > available

> > > freely

> > > > > >>>> today,then what was two decades ago. All this

> isleading

> > to

> > > > > >>> flamboyant

> > > > > >>>> lifestyles, I should say luxurious, as every one is

> > having

> > > > > >>> hightech

> > > > > >>>> gadgets, personal vehicles and what not, spending

> > evenings

> > > in

> > > > > > some

> > > > > >>>> restuarant,or shopping and enjoying life.

> > > > > >>>> Amongst all this,

> > > > > >>>> People like me, little older not matching with high

> > > academic

> > > > > >>>> qualifications, neither able to mindset doing jobs

> such

> > as

> > > > > >>>> call centres and the like, at prime of life or say

> > third

> > > stage ,

> > > > > >>>> ready to enter fourth, are just left spectator to

the

> > > happennings

> > > > > >>>> around staying put at home or office without

> loosening

> > out

> > > > > > pockets

> > > > > >>>> as there is not much to loosen about, feel the brunt

> > > because

> > > > > >>> though

> > > > > >>>> we may be understanding, others around us with whom

> we

> > are

> > > living

> > > > > >>>> would nothave the bent of mind to go deep for any

> > > retrospection..

> > > > > >>>> They would feel the dearth, I dont blame them, its

> the

> > men

> > > who

> > > > > >>>> are bound to get grub home, but since the grub is

> > limited,

> > > to

> > > > > >>>> satiate, considering the environments, then the

> > problems

> > > start

> > > > > >>>> appearing in life, which is happening in most middle

> > class

> > > > > >>> families

> > > > > >>>> in India today.

> > > > > >>>> At this stage man starts thinking what is he worth ?

> or

> > > why is he

> > > > > >>>> worthless ? Since the mental faculty does not allow

> any

> > > type

> > > > > >>>> of harakiri in business or professional activities ,

> he

> > is

> > > left

> > > > > >>>> to creating only limited.

> > > > > >>>> Hence when someone says good to that person, the

> actual

> > > food,the

> > > > > >>> soul

> > > > > >>>> wants is got. I think after the basic necessities,

> what

> > a

> > > man

> > > > > > wants

> > > > > >>>> is love, caring, or if not that at least a feeling

of

> > being

> > > > > >>> wanted,

> > > > > >>>> a feeling that yes You are also required some where

> > some

> > > place,

> > > > > >>> You

> > > > > >>>> have your own identity. A single word of love or

> > affection

> > > coming

> > > > > >>>> from the heart is what is required, to make You

> > complete.

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Thanks very much

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> Bhaskar.

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>>

> > > > > >>>> , "haizen"

> > <haizen@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhakar,

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >>>>> I hope your family gets around to saying it too.

But

> > if

> > > they

> > > > > >>> don't,

> > > > > >>>> I had the

> > > > > >>>>> pleasure of saying it first. What's that old saying

> > > about "A

> > > > > >>>> prophet being without

> > > > > >>>>> honor in his own country"? I'd say it's true in

some

> > > families

> > > > > >>> too.

> > > > > >>>> In the meantime,

> > > > > >>>>> it has now been said and the words officially go on

> > your

> > > akashic

> > > > > >>>> record. ;-)

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >>>>> Sincerely, Haizen

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>

> > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > > >>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > >>>>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Haizen ,

> > > > > >>>>>> You have made my day by calling me good. I wish

> > someone

> > > in my

> > > > > >>>> family

> > > > > >>>>>> tells me that some day before I leave this

> planet.....

> > > (Again

> > > > > >>>>>> demanding)

> > > > > >>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>> regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>> -- In , "haizen"

> > > <haizen@>

> > > > > >>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>> You're a good man.

> > > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>> Warm regards, Haizen

> > > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>

> > > , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > > >>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Haizen,

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>> You are generous.

> > > > > >>>>>>>> At times though we are merged in selfless

> > service,here

> > > or

> > > > > >>> on

> > > > > >>>>>>>> other platforms, and should not expect anything

in

> > > > > >>>> return ,when

> > > > > >>>>>>>> doing free service, yet being a human being, at

> > times

> > > the

> > > > > >>> Ego

> > > > > >>>>>>>> overcomes the intellect and perhaps in a weak

> > moment

> > > the

> > > > > >>>> demand

> > > > > >>>>>>>> for a thanks is made. This demand is actually for

> > > > > >>>> acknowledgement

> > > > > >>>>>>>> of your having contributed but nothing else. Yet

> I

> > am

> > > not

> > > > > >>>>>> supposed to

> > > > > >>>>>>>> ask for that if it its going to be a service-

> > selfless.

> > > > > >>>>>>>> If 4 flats are there on a floor in a building,

> and

> > one

> > > > > >>> person

> > > > > >>>>>> comes

> > > > > >>>>>>>> asking for clothes at my door, I go inside my

> house

> > and

> > > > > >>>> search

> > > > > >>>>>> for

> > > > > >>>>>>>> some clothes to be given to this chap, he

> > immediately

> > > > > >>> leaves

> > > > > >>>>>> after

> > > > > >>>>>>>> taking the clothes and without any

> acknowledgement

> > > moves

> > > > > >>> to

> > > > > >>>>>> another

> > > > > >>>>>>>> flat,then You feel...

> > > > > >>>>>>>> Here after doing my bit,and this gentleman

> receving

> > my

> > > > > >>> advice,

> > > > > >>>>>>>> instead of writing back, straightaway put the

> > > call "Please

> > > > > >>>> can

> > > > > >>>>>>>> any one help me" This must have hurt me and

made

> me

> > > > > >>> demand,

> > > > > >>>>>>>> what I did. I will be more thoughtful next

time

> > and

> > > less

> > > > > >>>>>>>> demanding.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>> Haizen thanks for understanding.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>> Regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>> , "haizen"

> > > > > >>> <haizen@>

> > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Since you have given two free hours of your

> > valuable

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> time on a fruitless pursuit, *I* wish to thank

> you

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> though I was not the person you were trying to

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> help. Everything takes time and I often wonder

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> if some of the problems people have are the

> result

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> of being so self-absorbed or self-preoccupied

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> that they forget to offer even the simplest

thank

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> you when someone takes their interests at heart.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> In the land of free readings, gratitude is the

> coin

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> of the realm. And for those who want their

entire

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> existence explained to them through their chart

> > (!),

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the astrologer should be compensated according

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to what he or she needs, and that usually means

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> being hired professionally for the hours

> involved.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Most people do not understand that what appears

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be an effortless and easy answer by the

> > astrologer,

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> required *years* of study leading up to it, and

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the astrologer should not be expected or

demanded

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to give their time away when they have the same

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> bills to pay as everyone else. Most astrologers

> do

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> free readings as a way of honing their skills

or

> > not

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> getting hung-up on the material side of things

> > only,

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> but their survival depends upon being hired for

> > their

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> talents. Astrology is a calling in life, yes,

> but

> > it

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> is also a trade and a service and "every

servant

> is

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> worthy of his hire." To do so permits the

> > astrologer

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to serve selflessly without charge those who

are

> > truly

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> in need--the student, those suffering from

> > illness, or

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the elderly--the only people astrologers might

> > > possibly

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> be obliged to help. That's my own personal

view,

> of

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> course.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> So "Thank you." May the rewards of those two

> hours

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> come through some other means of abundance.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Haizen Paige

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --- In

> > > > > >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish"

> > > > > >>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You should have typed June 7th and not July

7th.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I spent 2 hours of early morning tying to find

> out

> > > > > >>> Your

> > > > > >>>>>> possible

> > > > > >>>>>>>> birth

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> date.If You had given a word of thanks,it

would

> > have

> > > > > >>> made

> > > > > >>>> me

> > > > > >>>>>> real

> > > > > >>>>>>>> happy.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Its just like when a singer sings on stage and

> the

> > > > > >>> claps

> > > > > >>>> he

> > > > > >>>>>> gets

> > > > > >>>>>>>> are

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> soothing to the soul in the same

way............

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Any way please forget it.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> God bless ,

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > , "rebbeasher"

> > > > > >>>>>>>> <rebbeasher@>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I have some questions... my birthdate is

> > 7/7/1977 at

> > > > > >>>> 9:56

> > > > > >>>>>> 32n06

> > > > > >>>>>>>> 34e47.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Should I become a jyotishi?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Will the government find my adoption papers?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What were my biological parents like? What

> did

> > they

> > > > > >>> do?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> My religious nature?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The truth about my adoptive parents?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> When will I meet my biological parents?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why did I come to the US and why was I

adopted?

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! Trying to

> understand

> > my

> > > > > >>>> life.

> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thank you.

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>>

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >>>>

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