Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others

 

I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages

they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.

 

of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3

days before- decided on marriage )

 

one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders

and got it arranged.

 

 

the third couple sought each other themselves through means of

advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told

their elders and got married

 

I hope this will be interesting and also help students.

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

 

North Indian couple

 

Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)

Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)

 

 

South Indian Couple

 

Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)

Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)

 

 

 

East Indian Couple

 

Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)

Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, ashish saxena <ashish0021

wrote:

>

> Dear Samir namaskar,

> Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said

that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think

it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could

u throw some light on timing of marriage

>

> thanks and regards

> ashish

>

> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:

> || hare räma kåñna ||

>

> Dear Ashish, Namaskar

>

> For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and

5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have

an influence on the UL/7th house.

>

> In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house

also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also

the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a

lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I

believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -

so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is

just for learning.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

>

> At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> Dear Sir ,

> How do we figure out whether a person will haev

love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my

horoscpoe.

>

> Ashish

> 20th August 1983

> 3:12 AM

> Chandigarh , India

>

> Thanks and Ragards

> Ashish

>

>

> Ashish Saxena

> SDET

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>

>

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>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Suchitra, Namaskar

 

This is a great way of testing the principles. My analysis is bellow:

 

 

 

North Indian Couple:

 

In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka sthana from

Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is

indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and

this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this looks like

an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva

Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa).

 

I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to have had

a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first major

relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn

joining this Upapada.

 

South Indian Couple:

 

In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord Mercury

and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks arranged

on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial

measures for this marriage.

 

The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in the

fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a pravrajya

yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and move on

a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However, this

Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a

retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an arranged

marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter.

 

It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their upapadas

matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn and

Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that.

 

Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity.

 

I believe this was a purely arranged marriage.

 

East Indian Couple:

 

In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship before

marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both being in

dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage). The

next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms indicating

an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is

involved.

 

 

 

Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do post

the final answer on these chart.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

***

 

Visti Larsen

 

For services and articles visit:

 

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

 

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_____

 

[] On

Behalf Of suchitra_kamath

05 August 2006 23:02

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz

 

 

 

 

Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others

 

I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages

they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.

 

of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3

days before- decided on marriage )

 

one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders

and got it arranged.

 

the third couple sought each other themselves through means of

advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told

their elders and got married

 

I hope this will be interesting and also help students.

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

North Indian couple

 

Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)

Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)

 

South Indian Couple

 

Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)

Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)

 

East Indian Couple

 

Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)

Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon)

 

@ <%40>

, ashish saxena <ashish0021

wrote:

>

> Dear Samir namaskar,

> Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said

that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think

it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could

u throw some light on timing of marriage

>

> thanks and regards

> ashish

>

> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:

> || hare räma kåñna ||

>

> Dear Ashish, Namaskar

>

> For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and

5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have

an influence on the UL/7th house.

>

> In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house

also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also

the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a

lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I

believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -

so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is

just for learning.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

>

> At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> Dear Sir ,

> How do we figure out whether a person will haev

love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my

horoscpoe.

>

> Ashish

> 20th August 1983

> 3:12 AM

> Chandigarh , India

>

> Thanks and Ragards

> Ashish

>

>

> Ashish Saxena

> SDET

> Microsoft India R&D Centre

>

>

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

Answers

>

>

>

>

> Ashish Saxena

> SDET

> Microsoft India R&D Centre

>

>

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

>

[Guest guest]

|| hare räma kåñna ||

 

Dear Vistiji, Namaskar

 

A very interesting analysis - I look forward to

finding out what Suchitra has to say to

it. Please let me ask a few questions about the first couple's charts:

 

1. Does UL in marana karaka sthana from Venus

automatically prevent the marriage happening?

2. If the marriage didn't happen, how can we move to the next UL?

3. Are you saying that this isn't the groom's

first major relationship? I ask because 2nd from

UL is lorded by a strong Moon (though afflicted

by the nodes), and I wouldn't have thought the

marriage would break that easily. Or is there something else at play.

 

Thank you,

 

Samir

 

 

 

 

At 12:59 06/08/2006, you wrote:

>||Hare Rama Krsna||

>Dear Suchitra, Namaskar

>This is a great way of testing the principles. My analysis is bellow:

>

>North Indian Couple:

>In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is

>in marana karaka sthana from Venus, hence this

>marriage would not happen, and hence the next

>one is indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an

>exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and this is

>in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio).

>Hence this looks like an emotional tie which

>later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva

>Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa).

>I have deliberately skipped the chart of the

>groom, as he seems to have had a checkered past

>in the matter of relationships, especially the

>first major relationship was a source of great

>pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn joining this Upapada.

>South Indian Couple:

>In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is

>joined eighth lord Mercury and the Naisargika

>Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks

>arranged on first glance. I do agree with Samir

>that there is need for remedial measures for this marriage.

>The grooms chart again poses to be very

>interesting. The Upapada is in the fourth house,

>but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a

>pravrajya yoga in the ninth house, indicating a

>desire to reject marriage and move on a more

>spiritual path. This would have delayed his

>marriage. However, this Mars is joined Saturn

>(naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a

>retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi,

>which can bring an arranged marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter.

>It would be easy to accept this as a

>love-marriage, due to their upapadas matching

>each others lagnas, but i felt the strong

>influence of Saturn and Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that.

>Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity.

>I believe this was a purely arranged marriage.

>East Indian Couple:

>In this chart the bride seems to have had one

>minor relationship before marriage due to weak

>planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both

>being in dusthanas (ketu as an exception could

>promote an arranged marriage). The next upapada

>is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the

>grooms indicating an arranged marriage. The lord

>Mercury indicates some advertizing is involved.

>

>Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the

>principles, please do post the final answer on these chart.

>

>Best wishes,

>***

>Visti Larsen

>For services and articles visit:

><http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com

>***

>

>----------

>

>[] On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath

>05 August 2006 23:02

>

>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz

>

>

>

>Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others

>

>I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages

>they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.

>

>of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3

>days before- decided on marriage )

>

>one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders

>and got it arranged.

>

>the third couple sought each other themselves through means of

>advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told

>their elders and got married

>

>I hope this will be interesting and also help students.

>

>Thanks

>Suchitra

>

>North Indian couple

>

>Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)

>Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)

>

>South Indian Couple

>

>Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)

>Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)

>

>East Indian Couple

>

>Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)

>Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon)

>

>

><%40>,

>ashish saxena <ashish0021

>wrote:

> >

> > Dear Samir namaskar,

> > Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said

>that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think

>it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could

>u throw some light on timing of marriage

> >

> > thanks and regards

> > ashish

> >

> > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:

> > || hare räma kåñna ||

> >

> > Dear Ashish, Namaskar

> >

> > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and

>5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have

>an influence on the UL/7th house.

> >

> > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house

>also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also

>the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a

>lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I

>believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -

>so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is

>just for learning.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Samir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> > Dear Sir ,

> > How do we figure out whether a person will haev

>love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my

>horoscpoe.

> >

> > Ashish

> > 20th August 1983

> > 3:12 AM

> > Chandigarh , India

> >

> > Thanks and Ragards

> > Ashish

> >

> >

> > Ashish Saxena

> > SDET

> > Microsoft India R&D Centre

> >

> >

> > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

>Answers

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ashish Saxena

> > SDET

> > Microsoft India R&D Centre

> >

> >

> > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

> >

>

[Guest guest]

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

 

Dear Visti, Namaskar

1. I am finding it difficult to draw a line between A7 (relationships) and

UL (marriage). In the first case you mentioned that marriage will not

happen' so what kind of relationship would it be? Will that also be visible

while checking A7?

2. Can you please summarize the 'ULs that will not fructify into

marriage's? UL placed in dusthanas, ULs with debilitated lords, ULs in 6th

from Venus, ULs conjoined with weak or debilitated planets?

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

 

 

_____

 

[] On

Behalf Of Visti Larsen

Sunday, August 06, 2006 5:59 AM

 

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz

 

 

 

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Suchitra, Namaskar

 

This is a great way of testing the principles. My analysis is bellow:

 

North Indian Couple:

 

In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka sthana from

Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is

indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and

this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this looks like

an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva

Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa).

 

I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to have had

a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first major

relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn

joining this Upapada.

 

South Indian Couple:

 

In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord Mercury

and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks arranged

on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial

measures for this marriage.

 

The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in the

fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a pravrajya

yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and move on

a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However, this

Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a

retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an arranged

marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter.

 

It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their upapadas

matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn and

Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that.

 

Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity.

 

I believe this was a purely arranged marriage.

 

East Indian Couple:

 

In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship before

marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both being in

dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage). The

next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms indicating

an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is

involved.

 

Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do post

the final answer on these chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

***

 

Visti Larsen

 

For services and articles visit:

 

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

 

***

 

_____

 

[] On

Behalf Of suchitra_kamath

05 August 2006 23:02

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz

 

 

Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others

 

I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages

they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.

 

of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3

days before- decided on marriage )

 

one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders

and got it arranged.

 

the third couple sought each other themselves through means of

advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told

their elders and got married

 

I hope this will be interesting and also help students.

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

North Indian couple

 

Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)

Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)

 

South Indian Couple

 

Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)

Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)

 

East Indian Couple

 

Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)

Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon)

 

@ <%40>

, ashish saxena <ashish0021

wrote:

>

> Dear Samir namaskar,

> Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said

that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think

it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could

u throw some light on timing of marriage

>

> thanks and regards

> ashish

>

> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:

> || hare räma kåñna ||

>

> Dear Ashish, Namaskar

>

> For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and

5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have

an influence on the UL/7th house.

>

> In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house

also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also

the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a

lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I

believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -

so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is

just for learning.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

>

> At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> Dear Sir ,

> How do we figure out whether a person will haev

love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my

horoscpoe.

>

> Ashish

> 20th August 1983

> 3:12 AM

> Chandigarh , India

>

> Thanks and Ragards

> Ashish

>

>

> Ashish Saxena

> SDET

> Microsoft India R&D Centre

>

>

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

Answers

>

>

>

>

> Ashish Saxena

> SDET

> Microsoft India R&D Centre

>

>

> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sameer,

 

See my inputs below.

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke

wrote:

>

> || hare räma kåñna ||

>

> Dear Suchitra, Namaskar

>

> Thanks for this opportunity to learn - this is

> the best way to verify the principles we are

> debating. I have attached all 6 charts so that

> others can participate easily (but please check the coordinates of

Manipal).

>

> Couple 1

> Bride

> - UL is in 4th house Leo while the Sun is in the

> 12th house joined Mercury and A8, aspected by 8th lord Jupiter

> - 7th from UL (which is stronger than UL by

> virtue of housing Jupiter) is in trines to the grooms UL

> - A7 and AL are in 6/8 placement

> Groom

> - UL is Gemini with Saturn, placed in the 8th house.

> - Ketu is in the 7th house with Moon

>

> I feel pretty sure that this marriage was arranged.

>

 

 

 

This marriage was the Internet-arranged marriage

 

 

> Couple 2

> Bride

> - UL is in Leo with 8th lord Mercury and Saturn, lord of A7

> - 7th lord Venus is debilitated and forming a

> Kalatra Shaapa, all this in the 2nd from

> UL. This, to me, indicates great trouble in the

> marriage due to an affair. Mars is Lagnesha, and

> Venus and Mars are in trines to and aspecting Navamsa lagna...

> - UL is grooms Lagna!

> Groom

> - UL is in Scorpio. 2nd from UL is lorded by

> Jupiter who is retrograde and causing a

> curse. Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Venus are all

> aspecting by graha dristi, so this is very

> strong. It confirms what the brides chart is showing also.

> - Are you confident about the Navamsa lagna? It changes in a few

seconds.

> - In both charts UL and AL are in 2/12. Not good for marital

relationship.

> - UL is brides Lagna!

>

> So, I say that this was most likely the love

> marriage. But there is/was a lot of trouble

> here. I don't want to predict evil - but if the

> marriage is still alive, then remedies are surely

> necessary. Both charts have strong curses to deal with.

 

 

 

This was the pure arranged marriage

 

 

>

> Couple 3

> Bride

> - UL is in Scorpio with Rahu and Moon, Rahu lords A7

> - UL is in trines to grooms lagna

> Groom

> - UL is in 4th house Gemini while Mercury is in

> Sagittarius with both A7 and A8. Dispositor Jupiter is in 8th

house.

> - UL is in trines to brides lagna

> - There is a Brahmin shaapa here, and Jupiter in

> 8th (but as lagnesha, so no asura yoga), along

> with Amavasya dosha. Tattva dosha affecting

> Mercury (lording UL and 7th house) also.

>

> So a bit of a mixed picture - slightly confusing

> also. I think that this is the

> 'internet-arranged' marriage. Let's see whether

> this is correct, then it would be nice to go into

> a bit more detail in all of these charts - when they met/married

etc.

 

 

This was the love marriage arranged by parents!

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 00:02 06/08/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others

> >

> >I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages

> >they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they

had.

> >

> >of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw

her 3

> >days before- decided on marriage )

> >

> >one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their

elders

> >and got it arranged.

> >

> >

> >the third couple sought each other themselves through means of

> >advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told

> >their elders and got married

> >

> >I hope this will be interesting and also help students.

> >

> >Thanks

> >Suchitra

> >

> >

> >North Indian couple

> >

> >Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)

> >Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)

> >

> >

> >South Indian Couple

> >

> >Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)

> >Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)

> >

> >

> >

> >East Indian Couple

> >

> >Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)

> >Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >, ashish saxena <ashish0021@>

> >wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Samir namaskar,

> > > Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji

said

> >that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont

think

> >it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now,

could

> >u throw some light on timing of marriage

> > >

> > > thanks and regards

> > > ashish

> > >

> > > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@> wrote:

> > > || hare räma kåñna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish, Namaskar

> > >

> > > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and

> >5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to

have

> >an influence on the UL/7th house.

> > >

> > > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th

house

> >also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also

> >the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a

> >lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I

> >believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next

year -

> > so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present?

This is

> >just for learning.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Samir

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> > > Dear Sir ,

> > > How do we figure out whether a person will

haev

> >love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my

> >horoscpoe.

> > >

> > > Ashish

> > > 20th August 1983

> > > 3:12 AM

> > > Chandigarh , India

> > >

> > > Thanks and Ragards

> > > Ashish

> > >

> > >

> > > Ashish Saxena

> > > SDET

> > > Microsoft India R&D Centre

> > >

> > >

> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> >Answers

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ashish Saxena

> > > SDET

> > > Microsoft India R&D Centre

> > >

> > >

> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

Answers

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

> >the Great who said that the human stomach should

> >not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> >

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Visti,

 

 

 

See my inputs below

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Suchitra

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Suchitra, Namaskar

>

> This is a great way of testing the principles. My analysis is bellow:

>

>

>

> North Indian Couple:

>

> In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka

sthana from

> Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is

> indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh,

and

> this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this

looks like

> an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a

Daiva

> Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa).

>

> I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to

have had

> a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first

major

> relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka

Saturn

> joining this Upapada.

>

 

This was the internet-arranged type marriage.They work in the same

office.She had put a pin-up matrimonial ad on bulletin board.He

responded without knowing who it was from.A couple of years ago he had

been 'interested' in her.However both had several abroad trips so they

were generally not in the same location at the same time.When he

repsonded he didnt know it was from the same girl.They met a couple of

times in work atmosphere then asked their parents to arrange.I dont know

the groom so well as to confirm or deny his past relationships.

 

 

 

 

> South Indian Couple:

>

> In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord

Mercury

> and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks

arranged

> on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial

> measures for this marriage.

>

> The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in

the

> fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a

pravrajya

> yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and

move on

> a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However,

this

> Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a

> retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an

arranged

> marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter.

 

 

 

This marriage is the pure arranged one.You are right.He was married very

late.He is defintely spiritually inclined and indeed was married very

late-mostly due to pressure from mother and elder sister.

>

> It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their

upapadas

> matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn

and

> Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that.

>

> Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their

similarity.

>

> I believe this was a purely arranged marriage.

 

Absolutely correct!

>

> East Indian Couple:

>

> In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship

before

> marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both

being in

> dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage).

The

> next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms

indicating

> an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is

> involved.

 

This was the emotional -tie relationship.These two were in same

academic environment.They had to face some minor opposition initially,

but later their parents consented.Though the coupled is East Indian-

however their cultures were different in the sense they were raised in

distant corners of India and had major differences in lifestyle and

language etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

>

> Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do

post

> the final answer on these chart.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

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>

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>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of suchitra_kamath

> 05 August 2006 23:02

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz

>

>

>

>

> Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others

>

> I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages

> they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.

>

> of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3

> days before- decided on marriage )

>

> one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders

> and got it arranged.

>

> the third couple sought each other themselves through means of

> advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told

> their elders and got married

>

> I hope this will be interesting and also help students.

>

> Thanks

> Suchitra

>

> North Indian couple

>

> Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)

> Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)

>

> South Indian Couple

>

> Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)

> Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)

>

> East Indian Couple

>

> Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)

> Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon)

>

> @ <%40>

> , ashish saxena ashish0021@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Samir namaskar,

> > Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said

> that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think

> it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could

> u throw some light on timing of marriage

> >

> > thanks and regards

> > ashish

> >

> > Samir Shah solaris.smoke@ wrote:

> > || hare räma kåñna ||

> >

> > Dear Ashish, Namaskar

> >

> > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and

> 5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have

> an influence on the UL/7th house.

> >

> > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house

> also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also

> the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a

> lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I

> believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -

> so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is

> just for learning.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Samir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:

> > Dear Sir ,

> > How do we figure out whether a person will haev

> love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my

> horoscpoe.

> >

> > Ashish

> > 20th August 1983

> > 3:12 AM

> > Chandigarh , India

> >

> > Thanks and Ragards

> > Ashish

> >

> >

> > Ashish Saxena

> > SDET

> > Microsoft India R&D Centre

> >

> >

> > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for -

> Answers

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ashish Saxena

> > SDET

> > Microsoft India R&D Centre

> >

> >

> > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

> >

>