Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear members, Now they are allowed to pull out words and sentences from our postings and quote them and misinterpret them out of context. When I say "Karma Updesh" it is said by a grahasta in totality , which means Nishkam karma, with relation to all people with whom we are connected, and are these people not having part of Lod in them ? Are we not serving Lord himself when we do seva to our families, friends, contacts or even on this Forum when we reply to people and try to solve their queries ? Maybe the masters Like Shri Arjun Panditji and Shri Prashantji are doing better karma, because they actually take pains to draw the chart and predict using their time, labour and knowledge. And people like me they answer ordinary queries. But does not all this seva count in totality as Nishkama karma ? On whatever level anyone is working it is karma. When a sweeper does cleaning and gets salary and feeds his family is he not doing Karma ? Or does Karma mean just to leave Your father and mother and make a kutiya (hut) of Your own leaving responsibilities enjoying what comes as offering from the public ? In the final analysis are we not responsible to first our own selves, by taking good care of our health, living moral life, and then take care of family by working and providing basic necessities and then looking after neighbours and relatives and finally society at large ? Does serving Lord means not serving any other human being but just Lord in human Form ? And people like us may never see Lord in human Form, so we should not serve any other human being ? And what beautiful interpretation has been given for tyaga of Karma phal, which means that we should give our monthly salary not to wife at home but to people running monasteries and missions who decry themselves to be followers of God ? I never knew that Karma phala tyaga means giving money earned to followers of God. My eyes have been opened by this revelation. But whom should I ask money from ? Because I also know that I am also a follower of God ? Why then money should not come to me if I ask from people ? I can also quote many scriptures and prove my claims by twisting them as all readers must already be aware by now that I am versant with these shastras, so should I start this business ? Please advise me as this is a jyotisha Forum I ask all the Jyotishas. But I will not say anything to others who do this because its not good, it would mean insulting them, it would mean attacking them , it would mean feeling zealous of them, it would mean inviting their wrath, it would in short mean my doom . I dont know what to do ? Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 dear bhaskarji read the posts of RRji and myself and in many posts you would find that we convey what we want to convey but in a positive language. haizen also writes excellent mails with a positive bias. take for example the way we requested suryaji to channelise his knowledge and energy towards astrology and now he has written this: "As per the many requests in this forum, i will post articles on jyotisham." let us give him a chance and if he shares as many tomes of astro knowledge sharing mails daily as he is doing now on spirituality, this group would be most happy to have him. with best wishes pandit arjun (same god is present in all humans and hence one shall treat all humans including enemies as gods) , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear members, > > Now they are allowed to pull out words and sentences from our > postings and quote them and misinterpret them out of context. > When I say "Karma Updesh" it is said by a grahasta in totality , > which means Nishkam karma, with relation to all people with whom > we are connected, and are these people not having part of Lod in them ? > Are we not serving Lord himself when we do seva to our families, > friends, > contacts or even on this Forum when we reply to people and try > to solve their queries ? > Maybe the masters Like Shri Arjun Panditji and Shri Prashantji are > doing better karma, because they actually take pains to draw the chart > and predict using their time, labour and knowledge. And people like me > they answer ordinary queries. But does not all this seva count in > totality as Nishkama karma ? On whatever level anyone is working it is > karma. When a sweeper does cleaning and gets salary and feeds his family > is he not doing Karma ? Or does Karma mean just to leave Your father > and mother and make a kutiya (hut) of Your own leaving responsibilities > enjoying what comes as offering from the public ? > In the final analysis are we not responsible to first our own selves, > by taking good care of our health, living moral life, and then take > care of family by working and providing basic necessities and then > looking after neighbours and relatives and finally society at large ? > Does serving Lord means not serving any other human being but just Lord > in human Form ? > And people like us may never see Lord in human Form, so we should not > serve any other human being ? > And what beautiful interpretation has been given for tyaga of Karma > phal, which means that we should give our monthly salary not to wife at > home but to people running monasteries and missions who decry > themselves to be followers of God ? > I never knew that Karma phala tyaga means giving money earned to > followers of God. My eyes have been opened by this revelation. > But whom should I ask money from ? Because I also know that I am > also a follower of God ? Why then money should not come to me if I ask > from people ? > I can also quote many scriptures and prove my claims by twisting them > as all readers must already be aware by now that I am versant with > these shastras, so should I start this business ? Please advise me as > this is a jyotisha Forum I ask all the Jyotishas. > But I will not say anything to others who do this because its not good, > it would mean insulting them, it would mean attacking them , it > would mean feeling zealous of them, it would mean inviting their wrath, > it would in short mean my doom . > > I dont know what to do ? > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji, Pandit Arjun ji What is the point, if we can not discuss astrology or are diverted from the core subject (our own weakness??). But one question - should we meet at forum with mask or without mask !!!! regards / Prafulla Gang Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > > panditarjun2004 > Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:19:29 -0000 > > Re: KARMA UPDESH > > dear bhaskarji > > read the posts of RRji and myself and in many posts you would find > that we convey what we want to convey but in a positive language. > haizen also writes excellent mails with a positive bias. > > take for example the way we requested suryaji to channelise his > knowledge and energy towards astrology and now he has written this: > > "As per the many requests in this forum, i will post articles on > jyotisham." > > let us give him a chance and if he shares as many tomes of astro > knowledge sharing mails daily as he is doing now on spirituality, > this group would be most happy to have him. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > (same god is present in all humans and hence one shall treat all > humans including enemies as gods) > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: >> >> Dear members, >> >> Now they are allowed to pull out words and sentences from our >> postings and quote them and misinterpret them out of context. >> When I say "Karma Updesh" it is said by a grahasta in totality , >> which means Nishkam karma, with relation to all people with whom >> we are connected, and are these people not having part of Lod in > them ? >> Are we not serving Lord himself when we do seva to our families, >> friends, >> contacts or even on this Forum when we reply to people and try >> to solve their queries ? >> Maybe the masters Like Shri Arjun Panditji and Shri Prashantji are >> doing better karma, because they actually take pains to draw the > chart >> and predict using their time, labour and knowledge. And people > like me >> they answer ordinary queries. But does not all this seva count in >> totality as Nishkama karma ? On whatever level anyone is working > it is >> karma. When a sweeper does cleaning and gets salary and feeds his > family >> is he not doing Karma ? Or does Karma mean just to leave Your > father >> and mother and make a kutiya (hut) of Your own leaving > responsibilities >> enjoying what comes as offering from the public ? >> In the final analysis are we not responsible to first our own > selves, >> by taking good care of our health, living moral life, and then > take >> care of family by working and providing basic necessities and then >> looking after neighbours and relatives and finally society at > large ? >> Does serving Lord means not serving any other human being but just > Lord >> in human Form ? >> And people like us may never see Lord in human Form, so we should > not >> serve any other human being ? >> And what beautiful interpretation has been given for tyaga of > Karma >> phal, which means that we should give our monthly salary not to > wife at >> home but to people running monasteries and missions who decry >> themselves to be followers of God ? >> I never knew that Karma phala tyaga means giving money earned to >> followers of God. My eyes have been opened by this revelation. >> But whom should I ask money from ? Because I also know that I am >> also a follower of God ? Why then money should not come to me if I > ask >> from people ? >> I can also quote many scriptures and prove my claims by twisting > them >> as all readers must already be aware by now that I am versant with >> these shastras, so should I start this business ? Please advise me > as >> this is a jyotisha Forum I ask all the Jyotishas. >> But I will not say anything to others who do this because its not > good, >> it would mean insulting them, it would mean attacking them , it >> would mean feeling zealous of them, it would mean inviting their > wrath, >> it would in short mean my doom . >> >> I dont know what to do ? >> Bhaskar. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Shri Panditji, When all matter was closed, and we had closed our bags waiting for positive response then why should he come back with attacking my past mails ? Anyway my mail was not written to him but to You people Sir. I will now further stop writing anything on this subject if thats what is required......and right...... affectionately, Bhaskar. , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear bhaskarji > > read the posts of RRji and myself and in many posts you would find > that we convey what we want to convey but in a positive language. > haizen also writes excellent mails with a positive bias. > > take for example the way we requested suryaji to channelise his > knowledge and energy towards astrology and now he has written this: > > "As per the many requests in this forum, i will post articles on > jyotisham." > > let us give him a chance and if he shares as many tomes of astro > knowledge sharing mails daily as he is doing now on spirituality, > this group would be most happy to have him. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > (same god is present in all humans and hence one shall treat all > humans including enemies as gods) > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > Now they are allowed to pull out words and sentences from our > > postings and quote them and misinterpret them out of context. > > When I say "Karma Updesh" it is said by a grahasta in totality , > > which means Nishkam karma, with relation to all people with whom > > we are connected, and are these people not having part of Lod in > them ? > > Are we not serving Lord himself when we do seva to our families, > > friends, > > contacts or even on this Forum when we reply to people and try > > to solve their queries ? > > Maybe the masters Like Shri Arjun Panditji and Shri Prashantji are > > doing better karma, because they actually take pains to draw the > chart > > and predict using their time, labour and knowledge. And people > like me > > they answer ordinary queries. But does not all this seva count in > > totality as Nishkama karma ? On whatever level anyone is working > it is > > karma. When a sweeper does cleaning and gets salary and feeds his > family > > is he not doing Karma ? Or does Karma mean just to leave Your > father > > and mother and make a kutiya (hut) of Your own leaving > responsibilities > > enjoying what comes as offering from the public ? > > In the final analysis are we not responsible to first our own > selves, > > by taking good care of our health, living moral life, and then > take > > care of family by working and providing basic necessities and then > > looking after neighbours and relatives and finally society at > large ? > > Does serving Lord means not serving any other human being but just > Lord > > in human Form ? > > And people like us may never see Lord in human Form, so we should > not > > serve any other human being ? > > And what beautiful interpretation has been given for tyaga of > Karma > > phal, which means that we should give our monthly salary not to > wife at > > home but to people running monasteries and missions who decry > > themselves to be followers of God ? > > I never knew that Karma phala tyaga means giving money earned to > > followers of God. My eyes have been opened by this revelation. > > But whom should I ask money from ? Because I also know that I am > > also a follower of God ? Why then money should not come to me if I > ask > > from people ? > > I can also quote many scriptures and prove my claims by twisting > them > > as all readers must already be aware by now that I am versant with > > these shastras, so should I start this business ? Please advise me > as > > this is a jyotisha Forum I ask all the Jyotishas. > > But I will not say anything to others who do this because its not > good, > > it would mean insulting them, it would mean attacking them , it > > would mean feeling zealous of them, it would mean inviting their > wrath, > > it would in short mean my doom . > > > > I dont know what to do ? > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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