ORIGIN OF THE JIVA IN MAYA ???

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Dear Sriman Menon,

 

Namaste!!! In my opinion it is not a question concering "Istha-deva"

/ "Isth-devi"- rather a Vedantic question: What is the origin of the

jivatmas and how and why do we all exist in Maya, which is the realm

of repeated death? As a Shaakta what is your Sampradaya explaintion?

And according to tradition it must be an explanation in tune with both

Vedanta Sutra and Bhagavad Gita. Correct!?

 

I think the question of "choice" of the Jivatma is important issue

that totally concerns the realm of Sacred Objects. Sacred to who? And how?

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

RE: Does the Jivatma FALL from Vaikunta?

 

aiktually lots *smile* but then I am not a vaishnava but a shaakta.

so not da right forum.

 

Menon

 

Dear All...

 

Before I give the opinion of my Guru Maharaj on the subject, first

consider the ridiculous issue: "Does the Jivatma FALL from Vaikunta?"

 

One group of Hindus opine that the Jiva fell from Vaikunta into maya -

and became buddha-jiva because of WRONG CHOICE. Imagine: The Jiva

is in

Vaikuntha thinking: "Well, I can stay here in eternal bliss, or I can

fall into dukhalaya samsar-sindhu and suffer!?" So one group says we

all choose to suffer.

 

Another group says the Jiva is eternal, with no beginning. We are

parts

of Jiva shakti and have been infused into Maya by the unknown will of

Bhagavan (sport?). Once we work up through 8,400,000 species of

life we

come to liberation, and once liberated we never come back (after

death).

 

These two opinions conflict 100%. And the two sides are angry at each

other, and can't get along...

 

My Gurudev quotes BGita: Where Lord Sri Krishna says,

"tyaktva-deham-punar-janma-neti mam iti!!!" --- On attaining ME

(Krishna) one is never born again after leaving the body.

 

ANY COMMENTS???

 

Richard Shaw-Brown, PG

Designer & Gemologist